Iwobi needs to be phased OUT
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Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OUT
More of a system player, but very average at best to be candidEMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:23 amIwobi makes a team better but individually his game is not the type that can force his will on the opponent to score or create. I think the coaches that get the best out of him have a clearly defined role for him to play in the offense that enhances the team’s chances of scoring. No matter what we think of his pedigree, Iwobi is one of the best players I’ve seen at playing to instructions. He goes out there and does what the coach instructs him to do, he’ll even add extra defensive jara on top.
The problem with SE is that we just put him out there and ask him to create. To be the No 10/ AM by making plays and creating chances for attackers. He can do it but that’s not his best attribute. You have to create an offensive structure that includes Iwobi, not for him to create the offense.
Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OUT
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:23 amIwobi makes a team better but individually his game is not the type that can force his will on the opponent to score or create. I think the coaches that get the best out of him have a clearly defined role for him to play in the offense that enhances the team’s chances of scoring. No matter what we think of his pedigree, Iwobi is one of the best players I’ve seen at playing to instructions. He goes out there and does what the coach instructs him to do, he’ll even add extra defensive jara on top.
The problem with SE is that we just put him out there and ask him to create. To be the No 10/ AM by making plays and creating chances for attackers. He can do it but that’s not his best attribute. You have to create an offensive structure that includes Iwobi, not for him to create the offense.
In his position at club level, he should score more. A midfielder in his position ALWAYS needs to chip in with goals from midfield.
There's nothing to say about Iwobi in the SE. Without a professional coach, there's really nothing to say...except continue to hope on the Aladura prayer warriors

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Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OUT
The amount of rubbish that flies on these pages is mind-boggling. How many active SuperEagles players have scored more goals than Iwobi besides Osimhen and Iheanacho? To be clear, see the stats of key active players below:
Player Appearances Goals
Osimhen———————39——————23
Iheanacho——————57——————15
Iwobi——————-——83———-———10
Simon———————--72—————-—-9
Lookman——————-27—————-—-8
Anyone advocating that any of the above players be phased out now is a fool. I can only hope that our coaches are not as retarded as some of you guys

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Player Appearances Goals
Osimhen———————39——————23
Iheanacho——————57——————15
Iwobi——————-——83———-———10
Simon———————--72—————-—-9
Lookman——————-27—————-—-8
Anyone advocating that any of the above players be phased out now is a fool. I can only hope that our coaches are not as retarded as some of you guys
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Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OUT
I think this is worth looking at in timeframe. How many has Iheanacho scored in the last 4 years?
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Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OUT
Stop being lazy and do the research… OK, I’ll help you out:
Year Apps Goals
2015 1 0
2016 6 4
2017 7 4
2018 11 0
2020 4 1
2021 9 2
2022 6 1
2023 6 3
2024 7 0
Total 57 15
There you go. That’s 6 goals in the last 4 years… and note that this doesn’t include his AFCON semi-final winning penalty against South Africa
Cheers.
Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OUT
You senseless onlookers must leave Iwobi alone.
Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OUT
6 goals on 28 matches is poor. And none in 7 this year just tells it all. He is on the decline, for both club and country.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:19 pmStop being lazy and do the research… OK, I’ll help you out:
Year Apps Goals
2015 1 0
2016 6 4
2017 7 4
2018 11 0
2020 4 1
2021 9 2
2022 6 1
2023 6 3
2024 7 0
Total 57 15
There you go. That’s 6 goals in the last 4 years… and note that this doesn’t include his AFCON semi-final winning penalty against South Africa
Cheers.
And if you go back 6 years, that’s 7 goals in 43 matches. And his overall play has been poor too.
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Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OUT
There’s my problem with you tribalists. How many have done better? How many minutes has he actually played in the 7 games? The fact is he has a much better record than those who have played 4 or 5 times as many minutes… but you selectively pick the stats that favor your biased narrative. Go and hug a transformer, my friendLolly wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:55 pm6 goals on 28 matches is poor. And none in 7 this year just tells it all. He is on the decline, for both club and country.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:19 pmStop being lazy and do the research… OK, I’ll help you out:
Year Apps Goals
2015 1 0
2016 6 4
2017 7 4
2018 11 0
2020 4 1
2021 9 2
2022 6 1
2023 6 3
2024 7 0
Total 57 15
There you go. That’s 6 goals in the last 4 years… and note that this doesn’t include his AFCON semi-final winning penalty against South Africa
Cheers.
And if you go back 6 years, that’s 7 goals in 43 matches. And his overall play has been poor too.
Cheers.
Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OUT
Yes, I am a tribalist for pointing out Iheanacho’s stats. Thanks.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 4:02 pmThere’s my problem with you tribalists. How many have done better? How many minutes has he actually played in the 7 games? The fact is he has a much better record than those who have played 4 or 5 times as many minutes… but you selectively pick the stats that favor your biased narrative. Go and hug a transformer, my friendLolly wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:55 pm6 goals on 28 matches is poor. And none in 7 this year just tells it all. He is on the decline, for both club and country.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:19 pmStop being lazy and do the research… OK, I’ll help you out:
Year Apps Goals
2015 1 0
2016 6 4
2017 7 4
2018 11 0
2020 4 1
2021 9 2
2022 6 1
2023 6 3
2024 7 0
Total 57 15
There you go. That’s 6 goals in the last 4 years… and note that this doesn’t include his AFCON semi-final winning penalty against South Africa
Cheers.
And if you go back 6 years, that’s 7 goals in 43 matches. And his overall play has been poor too.
Cheers.
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Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OUT
You must not know what stats are. What I published above are stats. You, on the other hand, have concocted a narrative that aligns with your pre existing biasesLolly wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 5:11 pmYes, I am a tribalist for pointing out Iheanacho’s stats. Thanks.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 4:02 pmThere’s my problem with you tribalists. How many have done better? How many minutes has he actually played in the 7 games? The fact is he has a much better record than those who have played 4 or 5 times as many minutes… but you selectively pick the stats that favor your biased narrative. Go and hug a transformer, my friendLolly wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:55 pm6 goals on 28 matches is poor. And none in 7 this year just tells it all. He is on the decline, for both club and country.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:19 pmStop being lazy and do the research… OK, I’ll help you out:
Year Apps Goals
2015 1 0
2016 6 4
2017 7 4
2018 11 0
2020 4 1
2021 9 2
2022 6 1
2023 6 3
2024 7 0
Total 57 15
There you go. That’s 6 goals in the last 4 years… and note that this doesn’t include his AFCON semi-final winning penalty against South Africa
Cheers.
And if you go back 6 years, that’s 7 goals in 43 matches. And his overall play has been poor too.
Cheers.
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Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OU
Wow! This ignorant non entity just called Lolly a tribalist over stats. Is CE now a nationalist football forum? The level of discourse here just keeps getting lower and lower with the likes of Ohenhen as mods and Cellular as site admin. The people that are supposed to maintain a standard of decency are now the insurgents. It’s sad. Nacho’s performance has been debated here without much controversy but now you’re a tribalist for criticizing Nacho. Wow!TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:14 amYou must not know what stats are. What I published above are stats. You, on the other hand, have concocted a narrative that aligns with your pre existing biasesLolly wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 5:11 pmYes, I am a tribalist for pointing out Iheanacho’s stats. Thanks.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 4:02 pmThere’s my problem with you tribalists. How many have done better? How many minutes has he actually played in the 7 games? The fact is he has a much better record than those who have played 4 or 5 times as many minutes… but you selectively pick the stats that favor your biased narrative. Go and hug a transformer, my friendLolly wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:55 pm6 goals on 28 matches is poor. And none in 7 this year just tells it all. He is on the decline, for both club and country.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:19 pmStop being lazy and do the research… OK, I’ll help you out:
Year Apps Goals
2015 1 0
2016 6 4
2017 7 4
2018 11 0
2020 4 1
2021 9 2
2022 6 1
2023 6 3
2024 7 0
Total 57 15
There you go. That’s 6 goals in the last 4 years… and note that this doesn’t include his AFCON semi-final winning penalty against South Africa
Cheers.
And if you go back 6 years, that’s 7 goals in 43 matches. And his overall play has been poor too.
Cheers.
Cheers.
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Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OU
I have warned you on multiple occasions to remove my name from your silly comments.EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:46 am
Wow! This ignorant non entity just called Lolly a tribalist over stats. Is CE now a nationalist football forum? The level of discourse here just keeps getting lower and lower with the likes of Ohenhen as mods and Cellular as site admin. The people that are supposed to maintain a standard of decency are now the insurgents. It’s sad. Nacho’s performance has been debated here without much controversy but now you’re a tribalist for criticizing Nacho. Wow!
Go and rummage the gutter you are used to rummaging.
Just keep me out of your comments.



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Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OUT
What’s with all the anger?TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:19 pmStop being lazy and do the research… OK, I’ll help you out:
Year Apps Goals
2015 1 0
2016 6 4
2017 7 4
2018 11 0
2020 4 1
2021 9 2
2022 6 1
2023 6 3
2024 7 0
Total 57 15
There you go. That’s 6 goals in the last 4 years… and note that this doesn’t include his AFCON semi-final winning penalty against South Africa
Cheers.
Just because you’ve got more time on your hands to be digging up stats on the internet doesn’t mean you should hate me.
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Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OU
You've turned CE into a gutter so I'll rummage here. It's time you consider resigning to allow more competent, younger admin with integrity to take over CE. We need new ideas, direction and a new commitment to what the forum is about. You've become the Atiku of CE.Cellular wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 4:53 amI have warned you on multiple occasions to remove my name from your silly comments.EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:46 am
Wow! This ignorant non entity just called Lolly a tribalist over stats. Is CE now a nationalist football forum? The level of discourse here just keeps getting lower and lower with the likes of Ohenhen as mods and Cellular as site admin. The people that are supposed to maintain a standard of decency are now the insurgents. It’s sad. Nacho’s performance has been debated here without much controversy but now you’re a tribalist for criticizing Nacho. Wow!
Go and rummage the gutter you are used to rummaging.
Just keep me out of your comments.![]()
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Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OUT
You asked a question on which I educated you and that translates to anger and hatred for you? My friend, you have deep seated issues and delusions of grandeur. You should understand that you are not that important in the scheme of things. Perhaps, you’re feeling embarrassed to be found to be so completely wrong? It’s okay, nobody’s perfect; least of all, youwaka-man wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:47 amWhat’s with all the anger?TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:19 pmStop being lazy and do the research… OK, I’ll help you out:
Year Apps Goals
2015 1 0
2016 6 4
2017 7 4
2018 11 0
2020 4 1
2021 9 2
2022 6 1
2023 6 3
2024 7 0
Total 57 15
There you go. That’s 6 goals in the last 4 years… and note that this doesn’t include his AFCON semi-final winning penalty against South Africa
Cheers.
Just because you’ve got more time on your hands to be digging up stats on the internet doesn’t mean you should hate me.
One love.
Cheers.
Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OUT
What do you call what is highlighted in red? Concocted?TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:14 amYou must not know what stats are. What I published above are stats. You, on the other hand, have concocted a narrative that aligns with your pre existing biasesLolly wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 5:11 pmYes, I am a tribalist for pointing out Iheanacho’s stats. Thanks.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 4:02 pmThere’s my problem with you tribalists. How many have done better? How many minutes has he actually played in the 7 games? The fact is he has a much better record than those who have played 4 or 5 times as many minutes… but you selectively pick the stats that favor your biased narrative. Go and hug a transformer, my friendLolly wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:55 pm6 goals on 28 matches is poor. And none in 7 this year just tells it all. He is on the decline, for both club and country.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:19 pmStop being lazy and do the research… OK, I’ll help you out:
Year Apps Goals
2015 1 0
2016 6 4
2017 7 4
2018 11 0
2020 4 1
2021 9 2
2022 6 1
2023 6 3
2024 7 0
Total 57 15
There you go. That’s 6 goals in the last 4 years… and note that this doesn’t include his AFCON semi-final winning penalty against South Africa
Cheers.
And if you go back 6 years, that’s 7 goals in 43 matches. And his overall play has been poor too.
Cheers.
Cheers.
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"If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land."
"If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land."
Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OUT
There’s the anger again.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 6:53 amYou asked a question on which I educated you and that translates to anger and hatred for you? My friend, you have deep seated issues and delusions of grandeur. You should understand that you are not that important in the scheme of things. Perhaps, you’re feeling embarrassed to be found to be so completely wrong? It’s okay, nobody’s perfect; least of all, youwaka-man wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:47 amWhat’s with all the anger?TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:19 pmStop being lazy and do the research… OK, I’ll help you out:
Year Apps Goals
2015 1 0
2016 6 4
2017 7 4
2018 11 0
2020 4 1
2021 9 2
2022 6 1
2023 6 3
2024 7 0
Total 57 15
There you go. That’s 6 goals in the last 4 years… and note that this doesn’t include his AFCON semi-final winning penalty against South Africa
Cheers.
Just because you’ve got more time on your hands to be digging up stats on the internet doesn’t mean you should hate me.
One love.
Cheers.
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Re: Iwobi needs to be phased OUT
My friend, you are a total clown. If you’re not a professional comedian then you are wasting your God given talentwaka-man wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:50 pmThere’s the anger again.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 6:53 amYou asked a question on which I educated you and that translates to anger and hatred for you? My friend, you have deep seated issues and delusions of grandeur. You should understand that you are not that important in the scheme of things. Perhaps, you’re feeling embarrassed to be found to be so completely wrong? It’s okay, nobody’s perfect; least of all, youwaka-man wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:47 amWhat’s with all the anger?TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:19 pmStop being lazy and do the research… OK, I’ll help you out:
Year Apps Goals
2015 1 0
2016 6 4
2017 7 4
2018 11 0
2020 4 1
2021 9 2
2022 6 1
2023 6 3
2024 7 0
Total 57 15
There you go. That’s 6 goals in the last 4 years… and note that this doesn’t include his AFCON semi-final winning penalty against South Africa
Cheers.
Just because you’ve got more time on your hands to be digging up stats on the internet doesn’t mean you should hate me.
One love.
Cheers.
Ndo nwanne’m. Things can only get better.
Cheers.