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I am glad that Remo Stars finally put a significant distance between its quest for the NPFL trophy and any other contender. This is a club that I believe can lift the country at the continental level. In the last two years it had failed largely because of unlucky draws that saw the club pitted against North African giants. The problem with this is that those North African clubs recruit continent-wide while the Nigerian clubs do not have the financial muscle to match such recruitment. Nevertheless, Remo has a strong coaching resume in its attempt to be competitive at the continental level.
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I think they are still a few years away from becoming a force in Africa.

You mentioned recruitment continent-wide. What happened to the top class players that you guy claim are plenty in Nigeria? Or they are not good enough compared to other homebased players spread across Africa?
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Lolly wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:46 pm I think they are still a few years away from becoming a force in Africa.

You mentioned recruitment continent-wide. What happened to the top class players that you guy claim are plenty in Nigeria? Or they are not good enough compared to other homebased players spread across Africa?
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If you follow my argument about the need to also look within Nigeria to recruit for SE, you will realize that the call is that such great talent exist from time to time. Those should never be ignored. However, the presence of such talent cannot and will not automatically make a Nigerian club African champions. Football is not tennis, it is played by a ream of more than one. That is the nuance and it should not be ignored.

Now on Remo Stars, I hope that the team gets a favorable fixture this time and not what has been the case in the last couple of years.
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E11:
While I don't disagree with your assessment of Remo Stars, the 2025 league shield is coming to Ibadan. :taunt:
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Enugu II wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:57 pm
Lolly wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:46 pm I think they are still a few years away from becoming a force in Africa.

You mentioned recruitment continent-wide. What happened to the top class players that you guy claim are plenty in Nigeria? Or they are not good enough compared to other homebased players spread across Africa?
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If you follow my argument about the need to also look within Nigeria to recruit for SE, you will realize that the call is that such great talent exist from time to time. Those should never be ignored. However, the presence of such talent cannot and will not automatically make a Nigerian club African champions. Football is not tennis, it is played by a ream of more than one. That is the nuance and it should not be ignored.

Now on Remo Stars, I hope that the team gets a favorable fixture this time and not what has been the case in the last couple of years.
E11, I believe the fixtures are based on rankings, and Nigeria has not been doing well in a long while, so they will probably be paired up against powerhouses in African football
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Dammy wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:51 pm
Enugu II wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:57 pm
Lolly wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:46 pm I think they are still a few years away from becoming a force in Africa.

You mentioned recruitment continent-wide. What happened to the top class players that you guy claim are plenty in Nigeria? Or they are not good enough compared to other homebased players spread across Africa?
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If you follow my argument about the need to also look within Nigeria to recruit for SE, you will realize that the call is that such great talent exist from time to time. Those should never be ignored. However, the presence of such talent cannot and will not automatically make a Nigerian club African champions. Football is not tennis, it is played by a ream of more than one. That is the nuance and it should not be ignored.

Now on Remo Stars, I hope that the team gets a favorable fixture this time and not what has been the case in the last couple of years.
E11, I believe the fixtures are based on rankings, and Nigeria has not been doing well in a long while, so they will probably be paired up against powerhouses in African football
True word but I will hope Remo can avoid those historic North African teams. Remo has a good chance of doing well. Their Achilles heel so far is not running up scores at home against the North African teams and then failing during the opposite fixture. I hope it is different this time.
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Toxicarrow wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:21 pm E11:
While I don't disagree with your assessment of Remo Stars, the 2025 league shield is coming to Ibadan. :taunt:
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You don come with 'Sootin. You know that 'Sootin is not even sure of finishing top four. It will be tough down the stretch, taker that to the bank.
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Enugu II wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:14 pm I am glad that Remo Stars finally put a significant distance between its quest for the NPFL trophy and any other contender. This is a club that I believe can lift the country at the continental level. In the last two years it had failed largely because of unlucky draws that saw the club pitted against North African giants. The problem with this is that those North African clubs recruit continent-wide while the Nigerian clubs do not have the financial muscle to match such recruitment. Nevertheless, Remo has a strong coaching resume in its attempt to be competitive at the continental level.
I have serious doubts they can compete with the S African and N African teams. . I think making it to the group stages should be considered success
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These proofs my point that Rangers and IICC were the best teams Nigeria ever produced. Forget Enyimba and others. Rangers and IICC had five players each in the National team starting. At that time, the best players were playing in Africa. The likes of Milla, Nkono. Abega , Mbida, Manga Ougene, Magjer, Belloumi, Abdul Razak. The current African championship is watered down.
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Ezesportsworld wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:06 am These proofs my point that Rangers and IICC were the best teams Nigeria ever produced. Forget Enyimba and others. Rangers and IICC had five players each in the National team starting. At that time, the best players were playing in Africa. The likes of Milla, Nkono. Abega , Mbida, Manga Ougene, Magjer, Belloumi, Abdul Razak. The current African championship is watered down.
Well, those were the days the best players played in Africa. So you are not comparing like for like.

The Nigerian clubs of these days have a very small pool of good players to choose from and they are mostly of similar or lower quality to their neighbours who still have a sizeable pool of good players in their home leagues.
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Very well managed team. They have the potential to stay at the top fir a very long time.
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Very well managed team. They have the potential to stay at the top for a very long time.
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With the type of purse and Euro-Connections at their disposal,,, it will be serious tragedy if they do not surpass Eyimba feats.. PERIOD. I give them 2 yrs extra. If not they can F off.

Leventis United FC did it ... with much less resources.. It is call Vision & Organization. Do they have both?
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aruako1 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 6:39 pm Very well managed team. They have the potential to stay at the top for a very long time.
My hope is that the successes of this team -- not just trophies but financial management. -- would encourage other private entities to participate at the top level. I suspect, however, that reducing costs associated with travel and number of games may have to be dealt with before full private interests emerge.
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Only way Remo can compete is if

1) Nigerian league improves. You cant come from a rubbish league and expect to win the Africa CL
2) Entice top players from all over Africa to join Remo club
3) Integrate Beyond limit academy players into Remo team
4) Either fire Ogunmodede or get him a good assistant that can help him with the tactics
5) Create a passionate fan base. The Ikenne stadium needs to be packed every match day. I see the stadium and sometimes the stadium looks empty.
6) Get some big ogas to help sponsor the club. The current owner is trying but its not enough
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Enugu II wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:36 pm
aruako1 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 6:39 pm Very well managed team. They have the potential to stay at the top for a very long time.
My hope is that the successes of this team -- not just trophies but financial management. -- would encourage other private entities to participate at the top level. I suspect, however, that reducing costs associated with travel and number of games may have to be dealt with before full private interests emerge.
I don't care whether the entities are private or public. Remo Stars is well managed. That is the important distinction.
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aruako1 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 12:10 pm
Enugu II wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:36 pm
aruako1 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 6:39 pm Very well managed team. They have the potential to stay at the top for a very long time.
My hope is that the successes of this team -- not just trophies but financial management. -- would encourage other private entities to participate at the top level. I suspect, however, that reducing costs associated with travel and number of games may have to be dealt with before full private interests emerge.
I don't care whether the entities are private or public. Remo Stars is well managed. That is the important distinction.
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Agbako wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:16 pm With the type of purse and Euro-Connections at their disposal,,, it will be serious tragedy if they do not surpass Eyimba feats.. PERIOD. I give them 2 yrs extra. If not they can F off.

Leventis United FC did it ... with much less resources.. It is call Vision & Organization. Do they have both?
Thank you. There is already a template that can be used. Leventis, NNB, Abiola Babes, Eyimba
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Lolly wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:46 pm I think they are still a few years away from becoming a force in Africa.

You mentioned recruitment continent-wide. What happened to the top class players that you guy claim are plenty in Nigeria? Or they are not good enough compared to other homebased players spread across Africa?
You need to develop a much wider perspective on all matters, including football. There are more clubs in Nigeria than in any other African country and they are all vying for the very same top talent. Remo isn’t going to get them all and that’s why a wider continental reach would be advantageous for any club, wherever they might be🤔❗️


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Enugu II wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:57 pm
Lolly wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:46 pm I think they are still a few years away from becoming a force in Africa.

You mentioned recruitment continent-wide. What happened to the top class players that you guy claim are plenty in Nigeria? Or they are not good enough compared to other homebased players spread across Africa?
Lolly

If you follow my argument about the need to also look within Nigeria to recruit for SE, you will realize that the call is that such great talent exist from time to time. Those should never be ignored. However, the presence of such talent cannot and will not automatically make a Nigerian club African champions. Football is not tennis, it is played by a ream of more than one. That is the nuance and it should not be ignored.

Now on Remo Stars, I hope that the team gets a favorable fixture this time and not what has been the case in the last couple of years.
EII,

I don’t think “favorable” fixtures are what’s holding Nigerian clubs back. As you suggested in your opening post, Nigerian clubs need to get stronger through diversity and continent-wide recruiting🤔❗️


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Toxicarrow wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:21 pm E11:
While I don't disagree with your assessment of Remo Stars, the 2025 league shield is coming to Ibadan. :taunt:
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Lolly wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:46 pm I think they are still a few years away from becoming a force in Africa.

You mentioned recruitment continent-wide. What happened to the top class players that you guy claim are plenty in Nigeria? Or they are not good enough compared to other homebased players spread across Africa?
The North Africans recruit from the same Nigerian league…
And boss Africa while calling up domestic players for their national teams.

Evaluate players as INDIVIDUALS…
That should be an elementary enough concept.
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aruako1 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 12:10 pm
Enugu II wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:36 pm
aruako1 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 6:39 pm Very well managed team. They have the potential to stay at the top for a very long time.
My hope is that the successes of this team -- not just trophies but financial management. -- would encourage other private entities to participate at the top level. I suspect, however, that reducing costs associated with travel and number of games may have to be dealt with before full private interests emerge.
I don't care whether the entities are private or public. Remo Stars is well managed. That is the important distinction.
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