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Five lessons from the Nigeria vs Zimbabwe match…

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1) The SuperEagles should never play in Uyo. A stadium named after a sex offender is nothing but bad luck

2) Our players are awfully substandard. The weakest team in the group had ver little trouble containing them

3) Playing in Europe doesn’t mean a whole lot in the African context

4) Our defense needs a drastic overhaul

5) Eric Chelle is obviously not it. Finidi George should have been allowed to try and salvage his bad start


Cheers.
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TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:51 pm 1) The SuperEagles should never play in Uyo. A stadium named after a sec offender is nothing but bad luck

2) Our players are awfully substandard. The weakest team in the group had ver little trouble containing them

3) Playing in Europe doesn’t mean a whole lot in the African context

4) Our defense needs a drastic overhaul

5) Eric Chelle is obviously not it. Finidi George should have been allowed to try and salvage his bad start


Cheers.
Better brace for the attacks. I bet you touched nerves on #2 and #3.
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TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:51 pm 1) The SuperEagles should never play in Uyo. A stadium named after a sec offender is nothing but bad luck

2) Our players are awfully substandard. The weakest team in the group had ver little trouble containing them

3) Playing in Europe doesn’t mean a whole lot in the African context

4) Our defense needs a drastic overhaul

5) Eric Chelle is obviously not it. Finidi George should have been allowed to try and salvage his bad start


Cheers.
Utter nonsense.

1. Uyo or not is not the problem.

2. Our players are not substandard, we completely dominated the match. It is hard to beat a low block, we aren't the only top team to struggle like this.

3. Homebased players would do MUCH WORSE, against a low block. They would huff and puff to no avail.

4. Yes Troost needs to be replaced.

5. Chelle is a far superior coach to the clueless Finidi. 4 points to Finidis 1, even when Finidi had 2 friendlies to prepare that Chelle did not have. Finidi is THE WORST coach SE has ever had.
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1) Today's super eagle deserves "green," not "super."
2) Osinhen is overhyped
3) Ndidi is done
4) NEPA's incompetence does not give us options
5) Pinnick was a scapegoat
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1. The coach got it wrong
2. The coach got it wrong
3. The coach got it wrong
4. The coach got it wrong
5. The coach got it wrong
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vancity eagle wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:57 pm
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:51 pm 1) The SuperEagles should never play in Uyo. A stadium named after a sec offender is nothing but bad luck

2) Our players are awfully substandard. The weakest team in the group had ver little trouble containing them

3) Playing in Europe doesn’t mean a whole lot in the African context

4) Our defense needs a drastic overhaul

5) Eric Chelle is obviously not it. Finidi George should have been allowed to try and salvage his bad start


Cheers.
Utter nonsense.

1. Uyo or not is not the problem.

2. Our players are not substandard, we completely dominated the match. It is hard to beat a low block, we aren't the only top team to struggle like this.

3. Homebased players would do MUCH WORSE, against a low block. They would huff and puff to no avail.

4. Yes Troost needs to be replaced.

5. Chelle is a far superior coach to the clueless Finidi. 4 points to Finidis 1, even when Finidi had 2 friendlies to prepare that Chelle did not have. Finidi is THE WORST coach SE has ever had.
You even found time to respond to these folks. They've been waiting in the wings, hoping for our team to slip up so they can go after the coach :lol: . This was a game we dominated, only to lose focus in the final moments. I'm disappointed by today's result, but I remain optimistic. With four games left, anything can still happen.
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TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:51 pm 1) The SuperEagles should never play in Uyo. A stadium named after a sec offender is nothing but bad luck

2) Our players are awfully substandard. The weakest team in the group had ver little trouble containing them

3) Playing in Europe doesn’t mean a whole lot in the African context

4) Our defense needs a drastic overhaul

5) Eric Chelle is obviously not it. Finidi George should have been allowed to try and salvage his bad start


Cheers.
1 is just a an excuse for a mostly poor group of players

2 is mostly true, but we have a few decent players. The mentality is lacking in most though. A team with average, hard working players and committed players can achieve decent results. Many of the great Cameroun teams of yore had great success because of their mentality, and not their skills.
3 True. But a lot of us fans are guilty of scapegoating local players as being automatically inferior to the overseas contingent. Westerhof brought the likes of Finidi and Amokachi into the Eagles while they're were still playing in the local league.
4 The team as whole, not only the defence needs a drastic overhaul.

5 I'll still give him the benefit of doubt for now, based on how his Mali team played at the Nations cup.Let's see what he can do with a better squad of players.
He made some dodgy decisions today though, there can be no doubt about that.
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TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:51 pm 1) The SuperEagles should never play in Uyo. A stadium named after a sec offender is nothing but bad luck
knk : We need to go back Lagos stadium, where our players will never be relaxed again

2) Our players are awfully substandard. The weakest team in the group had verY little trouble containing them
knk : It's not so much the weakest team or our substandard-ness BUT rather all the smaller teams stepping up in the
continent i.e. lately Equitoral Guinea, Cape Verde, Gabon, Zimbabwe etc


3) Playing in Europe doesn’t mean a whole lot in the African context
knk : Most teams in Africa are using their professional players, so we have to double down in effort

4) Our defense needs a drastic overhaul
knk: Our defense is suspect but what happened to us trying rain goals in, in order to fray off marginal goal lines

5) Eric Chelle is obviously not it. Finidi George should have been allowed to try and salvage his bad start
knk : Chelle is a great coach, he took over so late. So we keep him


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I was waiting after the "victory" to nominate players that should be urgently ejected from the team (Bright Osayi-Samuel, Moses and Chukwueze). The team actually needs a complete overhaul. Start rebuilding now, forget the WC.

Iwobi, Ekong, Bassey, Aina, and Ndidi have served well.
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Lolly wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:01 pm 1. The coach got it wrong
2. The coach got it wrong
3. The coach got it wrong
4. The coach got it wrong
5. The coach got it wrong
This is on the coach! There was no need to bring on an extra striker when Osimhen went off, instead he should have brought on a midfielder to track the runs of Zimbabwe. The coach failed to manage the game effectively.
The decision to drop Frank Onyeka has come to bite us in the behind! We needed an energetic player like him to track down the Zimbabweans.
The player brought in at his expense, Papa Daniel, was not good enough according to Chelle, so why invite him? Affirmative action?
When I said Onyedika is not good enough for the African game, I was attacked by his fan on the forum. I was told he’s a Champions League player. I hope everyone saw how he couldn’t keep up with the runner that scored the equaliser for Zimbabwe
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Dammy wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:36 pm
Lolly wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:01 pm 1. The coach got it wrong
2. The coach got it wrong
3. The coach got it wrong
4. The coach got it wrong
5. The coach got it wrong
This is on the coach! There was no need to bring on an extra striker when Osimhen went off, instead he should have brought on a midfielder to track the runs of Zimbabwe. The coach failed to manage the game effectively.
The decision to drop Frank Onyeka has come to bite us in the behind! We needed an energetic player like him to track down the Zimbabweans.
The player brought in at his expense, Papa Daniel, was not good enough according to Chelle, so why invite him? Affirmative action?
When I said Onyedika is not good enough for the African game, I was attacked by his fan on the forum. I was told he’s a Champions League player. I hope everyone saw how he couldn’t keep up with the runner that scored the equaliser for Zimbabwe
Coach made too many schoolboy errors today.

I must be honest, I didn’t like what I saw on Friday. Yes we won but we didn’t play good football and a few of the players looked confused with their given roles.

Coach used only 3 tactical substitute players over the 3 games - Arokodare, Onyedika and Bruno. The other two were forced due to injuries. He
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iworo wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:03 pm
vancity eagle wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:57 pm
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:51 pm 1) The SuperEagles should never play in Uyo. A stadium named after a sec offender is nothing but bad luck

2) Our players are awfully substandard. The weakest team in the group had ver little trouble containing them

3) Playing in Europe doesn’t mean a whole lot in the African context

4) Our defense needs a drastic overhaul

5) Eric Chelle is obviously not it. Finidi George should have been allowed to try and salvage his bad start


Cheers.
Utter nonsense.

1. Uyo or not is not the problem.

2. Our players are not substandard, we completely dominated the match. It is hard to beat a low block, we aren't the only top team to struggle like this.

3. Homebased players would do MUCH WORSE, against a low block. They would huff and puff to no avail.

4. Yes Troost needs to be replaced.

5. Chelle is a far superior coach to the clueless Finidi. 4 points to Finidis 1, even when Finidi had 2 friendlies to prepare that Chelle did not have. Finidi is THE WORST coach SE has ever had.
You even found time to respond to these folks. They've been waiting in the wings, hoping for our team to slip up so they can go after the coach :lol: . This was a game we dominated, only to lose focus in the final moments. I'm disappointed by today's result, but I remain optimistic. With four games left, anything can still happen.
It is natural to go after the coach after a frustrating result so let us quit the conspiracies. I will not blame the coach though. At least I saw a team that tried to put in the energy. In attack however, there was no coordination against a poor low block. For me, Chelle should stay beyond the qualifiers and try to get the team playing his way.
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Enugu II wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:54 pm
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:51 pm 1) The SuperEagles should never play in Uyo. A stadium named after a sec offender is nothing but bad luck

2) Our players are awfully substandard. The weakest team in the group had ver little trouble containing them

3) Playing in Europe doesn’t mean a whole lot in the African context

4) Our defense needs a drastic overhaul

5) Eric Chelle is obviously not it. Finidi George should have been allowed to try and salvage his bad start


Cheers.
Better brace for the attacks. I bet you touched nerves on #2 and #3.
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Cheers.
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vancity eagle wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:57 pm
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:51 pm 1) The SuperEagles should never play in Uyo. A stadium named after a sec offender is nothing but bad luck

2) Our players are awfully substandard. The weakest team in the group had ver little trouble containing them

3) Playing in Europe doesn’t mean a whole lot in the African context

4) Our defense needs a drastic overhaul

5) Eric Chelle is obviously not it. Finidi George should have been allowed to try and salvage his bad start


Cheers.
Utter nonsense.

1. Uyo or not is not the problem.

2. Our players are not substandard, we completely dominated the match. It is hard to beat a low block, we aren't the only top team to struggle like this.

3. Homebased players would do MUCH WORSE, against a low block. They would huff and puff to no avail.

4. Yes Troost needs to be replaced.

5. Chelle is a far superior coach to the clueless Finidi. 4 points to Finidis 1, even when Finidi had 2 friendlies to prepare that Chelle did not have. Finidi is THE WORST coach SE has ever had.
Thanks vancity eagle.
Most herein are simply too emotional, unrealistic, and quite delusional.
Imagine points #1 and #5 by the thread opener. That is quite revealing.

BTW, let me repeat - our team lacks focus and discipline. Enough said!
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Dammy wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:36 pm
Lolly wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:01 pm 1. The coach got it wrong
2. The coach got it wrong
3. The coach got it wrong
4. The coach got it wrong
5. The coach got it wrong
This is on the coach! There was no need to bring on an extra striker when Osimhen went off, instead he should have brought on a midfielder to track the runs of Zimbabwe. The coach failed to manage the game effectively.
The decision to drop Frank Onyeka has come to bite us in the behind! We needed an energetic player like him to track down the Zimbabweans.
The player brought in at his expense, Papa Daniel, was not good enough according to Chelle, so why invite him? Affirmative action?
When I said Onyedika is not good enough for the African game, I was attacked by his fan on the forum. I was told he’s a Champions League player. I hope everyone saw how he couldn’t keep up with the runner that scored the equaliser for Zimbabwe
Every coach makes dodgy decisions from time to time but as I’ve stressed endlessly, being a foreigner doesn’t make the coach more suitable or better than indigenous coaches. Eric Chelle is no better than Finidi George or Augustine Eguavoen. That’s the plain truth🤔❗️


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joao wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:54 pm
vancity eagle wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:57 pm
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:51 pm 1) The SuperEagles should never play in Uyo. A stadium named after a sec offender is nothing but bad luck

2) Our players are awfully substandard. The weakest team in the group had ver little trouble containing them

3) Playing in Europe doesn’t mean a whole lot in the African context

4) Our defense needs a drastic overhaul

5) Eric Chelle is obviously not it. Finidi George should have been allowed to try and salvage his bad start


Cheers.
Utter nonsense.

1. Uyo or not is not the problem.

2. Our players are not substandard, we completely dominated the match. It is hard to beat a low block, we aren't the only top team to struggle like this.

3. Homebased players would do MUCH WORSE, against a low block. They would huff and puff to no avail.

4. Yes Troost needs to be replaced.

5. Chelle is a far superior coach to the clueless Finidi. 4 points to Finidis 1, even when Finidi had 2 friendlies to prepare that Chelle did not have. Finidi is THE WORST coach SE has ever had.
Thanks vancity eagle.
Most herein are simply too emotional, unrealistic, and quite delusional.
Imagine points #1 and #5 by the thread opener. That is quite revealing.

BTW, let me repeat - our team lacks focus and discipline. Enough said!
Are you surprised by the usual suspects? They have been waiting for an opportunity to run down the team because their local coach is not in charge.
It’s rinse and repeat for them as I have watched this same movie several times over the years that I have been on the forum.
They never really support the team and you know deep down they want the team to fail so that they can say I TOLD YOU SO!
So much for being adults! :taunt:
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TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:51 pm 1) The SuperEagles should never play in Uyo. A stadium named after a sec offender is nothing but bad luck

2) Our players are awfully substandard. The weakest team in the group had ver little trouble containing them

3) Playing in Europe doesn’t mean a whole lot in the African context

4) Our defense needs a drastic overhaul

5) Eric Chelle is obviously not it. Finidi George should have been allowed to try and salvage his bad start


Cheers.
I think its time we rebuild this team and look for new players! We have had 4 coaches in the last 2 years but still use the same old under performing players and expect change. We need to rebuild our team with intelligent and hungry players like Osimhen, in fact, it doesn't even matter where they play. I just don't understand why we have to stick to the same unproductive clueless wingers.
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gochino wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:14 pm
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:51 pm 1) The SuperEagles should never play in Uyo. A stadium named after a sec offender is nothing but bad luck

2) Our players are awfully substandard. The weakest team in the group had ver little trouble containing them

3) Playing in Europe doesn’t mean a whole lot in the African context

4) Our defense needs a drastic overhaul

5) Eric Chelle is obviously not it. Finidi George should have been allowed to try and salvage his bad start


Cheers.
I think its time we rebuild this team and look for new players! We have had 4 coaches in the last 2 years but still use the same old under performing players and expect change. We need to rebuild our team with intelligent and hungry players like Osimhen, in fact, it doesn't even matter where they play. I just don't understand why we have to stick to the same unproductive clueless wingers.
This "hunger" thing you guys keep talking about.

We have completely dominated EVERY game in this qualifying series. Even the ones coached by Finidi and Peseiro.

The problem is NOT "Hunger"
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Eric Chelle should have used at last stage of the game to change formation maybe put more defenders and midfielders,
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ANC wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:20 pm I was waiting after the "victory" to nominate players that should be urgently ejected from the team (Bright Osayi-Samuel, Moses and Chukwueze). The team actually needs a complete overhaul. Start rebuilding now, forget the WC.

Iwobi, Ekong, Bassey, Aina, and Ndidi have served well.
Do we have better replacements for these players you have listed?
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Hunger LOL.

We are making basic errors. Just basic.

Osimhen faced 3 CBs until Tolu came on.

180 mins and the APOY did not play in his preferred position for ONE minute.

Game management after going 1-0 up was non existent. Boniface for Osimhen at 1-0 was for what? When you had NO LEGS in the middle and both your wide players have run themselves ragged all game.

I cant deal right now.
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joao wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:54 pm
vancity eagle wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:57 pm
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:51 pm 1) The SuperEagles should never play in Uyo. A stadium named after a sec offender is nothing but bad luck

2) Our players are awfully substandard. The weakest team in the group had ver little trouble containing them

3) Playing in Europe doesn’t mean a whole lot in the African context

4) Our defense needs a drastic overhaul

5) Eric Chelle is obviously not it. Finidi George should have been allowed to try and salvage his bad start


Cheers.
Utter nonsense.

1. Uyo or not is not the problem.

2. Our players are not substandard, we completely dominated the match. It is hard to beat a low block, we aren't the only top team to struggle like this.

3. Homebased players would do MUCH WORSE, against a low block. They would huff and puff to no avail.

4. Yes Troost needs to be replaced.

5. Chelle is a far superior coach to the clueless Finidi. 4 points to Finidis 1, even when Finidi had 2 friendlies to prepare that Chelle did not have. Finidi is THE WORST coach SE has ever had.
Thanks vancity eagle.
Most herein are simply too emotional, unrealistic, and quite delusional.
Imagine points #1 and #5 by the thread opener. That is quite revealing.

BTW, let me repeat - our team lacks focus and discipline. Enough said!
Not too sure about that. FInidi played 4 games without Osimhen. I wonder how Chelle will perform without Osimhen.
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TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:51 pm 1) The SuperEagles should never play in Uyo. A stadium named after a sex offender is nothing but bad luck

2) Our players are awfully substandard. The weakest team in the group had ver little trouble containing them

3) Playing in Europe doesn’t mean a whole lot in the African context

4) Our defense needs a drastic overhaul

5) Eric Chelle is obviously not it. Finidi George should have been allowed to try and salvage his bad start


Cheers.
You guys still do not get it. Its not about playing in Europe. Let me spell it out to you.

GK - in South Africa
RB - in Turkey - Benchwarmer
RCB - Saudi arabia - retirement
LCB - Fulham
LB - Nottingham Forrest
DM - Leicester - relegation fighter
RCM - Milan - 6th choice for 9th placed team
LCM - Fulham
AM - France - Relegation fighter
ST - Turkey
ST - Atalanta

I am sorry, but look at the list up and tell me what is so "Europe" about it. Most of our players play for either mid table clubs, are fighting relegation or are in retirement leagues.
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