Osimhen to EPL? Anyone?

[Bigpokey24]

Our Osimhen just chilling while they all chase after his goals scoring prowess . World Class . Nigerian made

This thing dey sweet us, my brother!

Those of us who have stood by him from the beginning! By God's grace, we will be here to celebrate the CL titles and Balon D'or titles!

Amen

[Bigpokey24]

as i said United ko , United ni(I no trust them Saudis ooo, them fit come scatter market)

[Bigpokey24]

[The YeyeMan]

What is he going to Man United to do? To fight relegation? Why would he even go there - no European football. We breed losers in our national team..Thats why we are winning nothing and will not qualify for the WC with these players.

Be patient. He will make a decision next month.

In regards to Man Utd - it is the biggest club in England. If they win the EL, they will qualify for the CL next season and they clearly have a football strategy to get them where they want to be.

If he joins United, United will win the league that very season, because that is what Osimhen does.
He makes EVERYONE better.

United will be back to its glory days.

They will fight until the final whistle.

[Tbite]

Going to Saudi will destroy his stock, especially coming from Turkey. In three years time, nobody will talk about him any more.

[ANC]

Going to Saudi will destroy his stock, especially coming from Turkey. In three years time, nobody will talk about him any more.

What does it matter if he is paid enough to last a lifetime?

[Sleaky72]

Going to Saudi will destroy his stock, especially coming from Turkey. In three years time, nobody will talk about him any more.

If he’s not getting the love from a Tier One team then by all means go to Saudi and make extra generational wealth

[Enugu II]

Going to Saudi will destroy his stock, especially coming from Turkey. In three years time, nobody will talk about him any more.

If he’s not getting the love from a Tier One team then by all means go to Saudi and make extra generational wealth

Football is an extremely short career. It is a career choice and one of the factors to consider is remuneration as one prepares for life after football. Osimhen must consider that. He cannot play football forever. If he is shortsighted and only thinks about football then he will have himself to blame later. I hope he does not become one of our retired footballers begging for NFF assistance when the hurrays die down. Best to have a trusted adviser and money must be a consideration whether he chooses to go to England, elsewhere in Europe, or Saudi Arabia.

[Tbite]

We can all have our opinions and ultimately Osimhen will not even consider ANY of our opinions (whether they conform or disagree with his) but in by view, I maintain that it is premature.

This KSA deal is NOT a once in a lifetime opportunity. Making it appear like it is, because of some 'crazy eventuality' where he will get a ghastly injury is largely a weak argument.

Even with moderate injuries, he will still be able to get KSA offers in the future. Just look at Neymar.

This is a question of path dependency. Going to KSA EARLY closes some doors and opens a door that will essentially always be open.

On the subject of his stock, lets discuss this in pure economic terms. There is no domestic, regional, or global demand (sporting) that can pay Osimhen's Salary in KSA, not anywhere close to that degree. So what is paying his salary in KSA? It is a SUBSIDY. A crude oil subsidy if you will. So the majority of his salary does NOT intersect with footballing matters.

So for me, I look at it from those two perspectives. From a footballing perspective it is a non-entity of a move, his standard will drop at least marginally (5-15%) and the ability to measure him against quality opposition will drop drastically. I actually looked at some of the KSA numbers at Transfermkt myself and deduced that there are essentially only three teams in KSA, this is not based on the obvious media releases etc or even signings, but I looked at the attendances over the past 10 years and the rate of change etc. Of course we can then look at team sheets etc. Essentially money is not REALLY being funelled into KSA, it is specifically being funelled into JUST THREE teams to be exact. Just three teems, Al(Nassr, Hilal, and Ittihad). So between these three teams there might be some level of competition, but between the rest, it is highly questionable (of course they will have their share of upsets, let us not go down that route).

Then the other aspect which I am just recapping on is monetary or path related, and I think it is PREMATURE.

So, ehhhhh....it is a very bland move as far as I am concerned (my personal opinion). A subsidy does not suddenly make something make sense. If the Saudis wanted to subsidise pure water or agege bread and market it as caviar, they are of course free to do so, and it may receive all the spotlight in the world PURELY due to that financial light and perhaps a few of the other legitimate meals that are put around it, but at the end of the day, the menu is still mediocre.

Of course a player that has already explored many paths may not care about that reality (such as Ronaldo) and try to exaggerate the legitimacy of the league or even try to build it, but that is a different discussion.

But there is also even a third way of summing all of this up, which is more or less related to the FIRST one, which is, what is it to US, as football fans? Because surely that is what we are? This becomes more of a gameshow, and you guys are the nervy ones telling the contestant to take their winnings rather than go for the 'grand prize' so to speak, but here I am stating plainly, why does the gameshow even matter at all? I don't give a rats arse about gameshow, as far as football goes, this is a non-entity of a move. If it benefits Osimhen great, but maybe we can discuss the financial aspects of that in Rant and Rave. But let us be clear, it is a subsidy, because the wages do NOT match footballing demand/merit, the captive system.

Lets see their books, how much do they generate in advertising, how much do they generate from ticket sales, how much do they sell in merchandise. It is a subsidy....and one that Osimhen does not need right now. But if you STILL think he does, then yeah, it is a cute little thing to discuss in rant and rave. because it is primarily subsidy, and only tangentially football related.

[Tbite]

and it is a bit funny for me to make this post, because in the past, I have probably defended the Saudi League probably more than anyone on this forum. On the flip side of what I have written above. I actually DO believe in their project. I delved into the transfermkt data not as a sceptic but as a believer. The investments that they made into those three clubs is WORKING (albeit inefficiently). Attendances between those three clubs is actually comparable to Europe. It is the lower tier sides that have NOT received those massive investments that have subpar attendances. I believe in their project and I am against the elite Western European view that football must revolve around THEM.

However, what will it actually take to become a legitimate league, well it will take a lot of hard work and a lot of sacrifice, and someone like Osimhen would be contributing to that vision, but I view it largely as a sacrifice IF he goes there very early in his career. I do not view it as a brilliant financial decision or some sort of genius negotiation. Just about any footballer in the same realm as Osimhen gets that same offer, there is nothing brilliant about it. Isak gets the same offer, Lautaro Martinez can get it, ANYBODY of that pedigree can get it.

BUT there is a reason why most of them are not queuing up for it, and that is because it is a SACRIFICE. I believe in the KSA project (though my post above might make it seem otherwise), but I am simply speaking plainly. I do not want our best footballer being used as a sacrifice, when it is NOT necessary. This is NOT a once in a lifetime offer. The KSA deals should not be difficult to get for him, going on the next TEN (Yes TEN) years, if he can move. He can even have had injuries, provided it is not an injury beyond any form of recovery, he will get KSA offers.

So yes, to be clear, I am not demeaning their league or project, simply stating that in the early stages of their growth, it will be leveraging an excessive amount of non-tangible investments and a lot of sacrifice. I don't want Osimhen getting involved in that too early. A good deal is one where you can eat your cake and have it, not one where you are simply being used. You have to think big picture. Cristiano ate his cake and had it. THAT is negotiation. This is terrible. Just my opinion. I cannot endorse it even remotely, but those of you who support it, more power to you.

Interestingly one of the players desperate for it is Darwin Nunez, a player who no longer believes in his own stock, go figure!

[jette1]

and it is a bit funny for me to make this post, because in the past, I have probably defended the Saudi League probably more than anyone on this forum. On the flip side of what I have written above. I actually DO believe in their project. I delved into the transfermkt data not as a sceptic but as a believer. The investments that they made into those three clubs is WORKING (albeit inefficiently). Attendances between those three clubs is actually comparable to Europe. It is the lower tier sides that have NOT received those massive investments that have subpar attendances. I believe in their project and I am against the elite Western European view that football must revolve around THEM.

However, what will it actually take to become a legitimate league, well it will take a lot of hard work and a lot of sacrifice, and someone like Osimhen would be contributing to that vision, but I view it largely as a sacrifice IF he goes there very early in his career. I do not view it as a brilliant financial decision or some sort of genius negotiation. Just about any footballer in the same realm as Osimhen gets that same offer, there is nothing brilliant about it. Isak gets the same offer, Lautaro Martinez can get it, ANYBODY of that pedigree can get it.

BUT there is a reason why most of them are not queuing up for it, and that is because it is a SACRIFICE. I believe in the KSA project (though my post above might make it seem otherwise), but I am simply speaking plainly. I do not want our best footballer being used as a sacrifice, when it is NOT necessary. This is NOT a once in a lifetime offer. The KSA deals should not be difficult to get for him, going on the next TEN (Yes TEN) years, if he can move. He can even have had injuries, provided it is not an injury beyond any form of recovery, he will get KSA offers.

So yes, to be clear, I am not demeaning their league or project, simply stating that in the early stages of their growth, it will be leveraging an excessive amount of non-tangible investments and a lot of sacrifice. I don't want Osimhen getting involved in that too early. A good deal is one where you can eat your cake and have it, not one where you are simply being used. You have to think big picture. Cristiano ate his cake and had it. THAT is negotiation. This is terrible. Just my opinion. I cannot endorse it even remotely, but those of you who support it, more power to you.

Interestingly one of the players desperate for it is Darwin Nunez, a player who no longer believes in his own stock, go figure!

Before Saudi League It was all about going to make the Chinese league world class; whatever happened to that ? Saudi league would never ever become a legitimate league. In fact Chinese league has more chances of legitimacy than Saudi's

[icee]

and it is a bit funny for me to make this post, because in the past, I have probably defended the Saudi League probably more than anyone on this forum. On the flip side of what I have written above. I actually DO believe in their project. I delved into the transfermkt data not as a sceptic but as a believer. The investments that they made into those three clubs is WORKING (albeit inefficiently). Attendances between those three clubs is actually comparable to Europe. It is the lower tier sides that have NOT received those massive investments that have subpar attendances. I believe in their project and I am against the elite Western European view that football must revolve around THEM.

However, what will it actually take to become a legitimate league, well it will take a lot of hard work and a lot of sacrifice, and someone like Osimhen would be contributing to that vision, but I view it largely as a sacrifice IF he goes there very early in his career. I do not view it as a brilliant financial decision or some sort of genius negotiation. Just about any footballer in the same realm as Osimhen gets that same offer, there is nothing brilliant about it. Isak gets the same offer, Lautaro Martinez can get it, ANYBODY of that pedigree can get it.

BUT there is a reason why most of them are not queuing up for it, and that is because it is a SACRIFICE. I believe in the KSA project (though my post above might make it seem otherwise), but I am simply speaking plainly. I do not want our best footballer being used as a sacrifice, when it is NOT necessary. This is NOT a once in a lifetime offer. The KSA deals should not be difficult to get for him, going on the next TEN (Yes TEN) years, if he can move. He can even have had injuries, provided it is not an injury beyond any form of recovery, he will get KSA offers.

So yes, to be clear, I am not demeaning their league or project, simply stating that in the early stages of their growth, it will be leveraging an excessive amount of non-tangible investments and a lot of sacrifice. I don't want Osimhen getting involved in that too early. A good deal is one where you can eat your cake and have it, not one where you are simply being used. You have to think big picture. Cristiano ate his cake and had it. THAT is negotiation. This is terrible. Just my opinion. I cannot endorse it even remotely, but those of you who support it, more power to you.

Interestingly one of the players desperate for it is Darwin Nunez, a player who no longer believes in his own stock, go figure!

Before Saudi League It was all about going to make the Chinese league world class; whatever happened to that ? Saudi league would never ever become a legitimate league. In fact Chinese league has more chances of legitimacy than Saudi's

Great point. Chinese discretionary spending don dried up!. Real estate crisis is more urgent

[wiseone]

https://x.com/UtdFaithfuls/status/1916050178718499134

[danfo driver]

https://x.com/UtdFaithfuls/status/1916050178718499134

From the same id1ot (Fabrizio) who tried to do all he could to make it seem like it was Kvara who won the League from Napoli?

Here is what English clubs pay people. But, yea, lets believe they are refusing to pay one of the best strikers in the world only € 12 million. Even a 50 year old Virgil v Dyke was given €14 million.

Erling Haaland:€35.7 million annually.
Kevin De Bruyne: €27.2 million annually.
Mohamed Salah (Liverpool): €24 million annually.
Casemiro: €23.7 million annually.
Raheem Sterling: €22.9 million annually.
Bernardo Silva: €20.3 million annually.
Jack Grealish:€20.3 million annually.
Marcus Rashford: €20.3 million annually.
Kai Havertz: €18.9 million annually.
Gabriel Jesus: €17.9 million annually.

This one (Fabrizio) who is known to be bought and paid for - clubs pay him to some times release certain news for them to make them look good. In this case, if some of these clubs already know that Osimhen is NOT considering them, they have their media cronies release news to make it seem like they are the ones. not keen to meet his demand.

[danfo driver]

I no even see wetin Osimhen mouth-piece post before I wrote my own above.

[Bigpokey24]