Petition To Ban Taylor...

[YUJAM]

Maradona:
Watch the replay. The tackle was intentional. Taylor did not go after the ball, he went after the leg instead. So his intention was not to break his leg. But it is clear the intent was to injure

I am waiting to see the English press savage the guy like they did when Essien stamped on Hamann's leg

They will not. They are already making the excuses. He is English and Arsenal do not have English players. You need to follow the media here and hear the xenophobia against Arsenal.

It's not about being English. It was indeed a bad tackle, but there was no malicious intent to injure the player. What do you expect the FA to do? Ban the guy for life? Let us not get carried away here, even Wenger has had a thorough review of the incident and retracted his earlier comments, why can't you guys do the same?

[Waffiman]

I am waiting to see the English press savage the guy like they did when Essien stamped on Hamann's leg

They will not. They are already making the excuses. He is English and Arsenal do not have English players. You need to follow the media here and hear the xenophobia against Arsenal.

It's not about being English. It was indeed a bad tackle, but there was no malicious intent to injure the player. What do you expect the FA to do? Ban the guy for life? Let us not get carried away here, even Wenger has had a thorough review of the incident and retracted his earlier comments, why can't you guys do the same?

Do not be stupid. Wenger retracted his call for the player to be banned for life. He has not retracted his view that it was a delibrate act. It was not a tackle, it was a malicious assault which was done with malice aforethought.

[Maradona]

He needs to be punished severely.

I also believe the EPL needs to get stricter on some of these dangerous tackles. I am on record as saying that the likes of Smith, Butt, Gerrard and others go into tackles too recklessly. Often times, the refs let them play through such rough plays.

I am all about protecting players so skillful players can exhibit their skills

I am in rage because we had it coming. For 3 seasons now our players have had to put up with this. Diaby almost got his career ended and he has not looked the same player ever since. We are despised because Wenger basically says you English are not good enough to play for Arsenal. Led by Fergie at Manure, they have come to kick us out of games, when we react we get sent (Eboue at Manure last week when they kicked us all game and Eboue retaliated) off.

Arsenal have the best record in terms of discipline in the past 3 seasons, yet we are the most fouled team. When the refs tried to clamp down on bad tackles, the old pros said it was wrong. The like of Hansen and Gray on Sky said you have to get in amongst Arsenal to stop them playing. They mean do what Taylor did to Eduardo. You can see the result above.

Dude, I just don't get your point about Ferguson sending his players to kick/injure Arsenal players in matches. Over the last 3 years, Arsenal haven't been a force to be reckoned with and as a Man U fan, I can tell you our attention was on Jose and Chelsea (not a team that failed to win a single trophy during that time).

With regards to Hansen and the likes, they did not instigate or influence anyone to go out there and injure Arsenal players, they said "get in amongst them". Judging by their analysis, it can be implied that they meant to close down Arsenal players at the slightest opportunity and minimise the space available for them to play. I sincerely don't understand where you gut your insinuations from. Are you sure you OK?

[Maradona]

Maradona:
Watch the replay. The tackle was intentional. Taylor did not go after the ball, he went after the leg instead. So his intention was not to break his leg. But it is clear the intent was to injure

I am waiting to see the English press savage the guy like they did when Essien stamped on Hamann's leg

They will not. They are already making the excuses. He is English and Arsenal do not have English players. You need to follow the media here and hear the xenophobia against Arsenal.

It's not about being English. It was indeed a bad tackle, but there was no malicious intent to injure the player. What do you expect the FA to do? Ban the guy for life? Let us not get carried away here, even Wenger has had a thorough review of the incident and retracted his earlier comments, why can't you guys do the same?

Has it occurred to you guys that the fact that Eduardo's foot was a bit stuck on the ground may also have made the situation worse? This tackle is just as bad as the tackles made by Gerrard, Essien and others. Sure the result is a disaster, but I don't see how you can ban a player for this. These tackles are often worse in slow motion, but in real time you can see that it wasn't a malicious act.

[Waffiman]

Maradona:
Watch the replay. The tackle was intentional. Taylor did not go after the ball, he went after the leg instead. So his intention was not to break his leg. But it is clear the intent was to injure

I am waiting to see the English press savage the guy like they did when Essien stamped on Hamann's leg

They will not. They are already making the excuses. He is English and Arsenal do not have English players. You need to follow the media here and hear the xenophobia against Arsenal.

It's not about being English. It was indeed a bad tackle, but there was no malicious intent to injure the player. What do you expect the FA to do? Ban the guy for life? Let us not get carried away here, even Wenger has had a thorough review of the incident and retracted his earlier comments, why can't you guys do the same?

Has it occurred to you guys that the fact that Eduardo's foot was a bit stuck on the ground may also have made the situation worse? This tackle is just as bad as the tackles made by Gerrard, Essien and others. Sure the result is a disaster, but I don't see how you can ban a player for this. These tackles are often worse in slow motion, but in real time you can see that it wasn't a malicious act.

You call that a tackle! Look at where the players foot is, he has gone over the top to maim a fellow professional. That is wicked and evil. He leapt off the ground. I remember Manure players doing that to Vieira every game but he saw it coming. Fergie has passed it to his fellow Scottish boy and we can see the result.



Are you for real? Oh! It is Eduardo's fault he put his foot on the ground.

Go join your fellow scum here:
http://208.101.38.218/showthread.php?t=118796

[Maradona]

I am waiting to see the English press savage the guy like they did when Essien stamped on Hamann's leg

They will not. They are already making the excuses. He is English and Arsenal do not have English players. You need to follow the media here and hear the xenophobia against Arsenal.

It's not about being English. It was indeed a bad tackle, but there was no malicious intent to injure the player. What do you expect the FA to do? Ban the guy for life? Let us not get carried away here, even Wenger has had a thorough review of the incident and retracted his earlier comments, why can't you guys do the same?

Do not be stupid. Wenger retracted his call for the player to be banned for life. He has not retracted his view that it was a delibrate act. It was not a tackle, .

It appears you're the one being stupid. According to Arsene Wenger:
"I feel that my comments about Martin Taylor were excessive. I said what I did in the heat of the moment".

Now that is the reaction of a wise and intelligent man who understands he was harsh with his comments, I don't know why you will not follow his example.

Btw, you can sue him if you feel "it was a malicious assault which was done with malice aforethought". Just be prepared to prove he had the intention to hurt Eduardo. Good luck proving it, cos you're gonna need it.

[Maradona]

Maradona:
Watch the replay. The tackle was intentional. Taylor did not go after the ball, he went after the leg instead. So his intention was not to break his leg. But it is clear the intent was to injure

I am waiting to see the English press savage the guy like they did when Essien stamped on Hamann's leg

They will not. They are already making the excuses. He is English and Arsenal do not have English players. You need to follow the media here and hear the xenophobia against Arsenal.

It's not about being English. It was indeed a bad tackle, but there was no malicious intent to injure the player. What do you expect the FA to do? Ban the guy for life? Let us not get carried away here, even Wenger has had a thorough review of the incident and retracted his earlier comments, why can't you guys do the same?

Has it occurred to you guys that the fact that Eduardo's foot was a bit stuck on the ground may also have made the situation worse? This tackle is just as bad as the tackles made by Gerrard, Essien and others. Sure the result is a disaster, but I don't see how you can ban a player for this. These tackles are often worse in slow motion, but in real time you can see that it wasn't a malicious act.

You call that a tackle! Look at where the players foot is, he has gone over the top to maim a fellow professional. That is wicked and evil. He leapt off the ground. I remember Manure players doing that to Vieira every game but he saw it coming. Fergie has passed it to his fellow Scottish boy and we can see the result.



Are you for real? Oh! It is Eduardo's fault he put his foot on the ground.

Go join your fellow scum here:
http://208.101.38.218/showthread.php?t=118796

Isn't that where Gerrard and Essien's foot where when they made their dangerous tackles? Everyone knows the tackle was extremely dangerous and career threatening, but I've watched replays and he did not mean to injure him.

About you calling me a "scum", it take one to know another.

[Waffiman]

I am waiting to see the English press savage the guy like they did when Essien stamped on Hamann's leg

They will not. They are already making the excuses. He is English and Arsenal do not have English players. You need to follow the media here and hear the xenophobia against Arsenal.

It's not about being English. It was indeed a bad tackle, but there was no malicious intent to injure the player. What do you expect the FA to do? Ban the guy for life? Let us not get carried away here, even Wenger has had a thorough review of the incident and retracted his earlier comments, why can't you guys do the same?

Do not be stupid. Wenger retracted his call for the player to be banned for life. He has not retracted his view that it was a delibrate act. It was not a tackle, .

It appears you're the one being stupid. According to Arsene Wenger:
"I feel that my comments about Martin Taylor were excessive. I said what I did in the heat of the moment".

Now that is the reaction of a wise and intelligent man who understands he was harsh with his comments, I don't know why you will not follow his example.

Btw, you can sue him if you feel "it was a malicious assault which was done with malice aforethought". Just be prepared to prove he had the intention to hurt Eduardo. Good luck proving it, cos you're gonna need it.

Go join your friends on the Manure forum. See link above.

Wenger comments are just a PR excercise, it means nothing to me.

[YUJAM]

I don't buy it. He didn't go for the ball. He went for the leg. If you've played football, dirty players often do this to rattle a player etc etc. I am sure his intention was not to break Eduardo's leg but there is no doubt in my mind that he went for the dirty tackle which resulted in the worst possible outcome

Maradona:
Watch the replay. The tackle was intentional. Taylor did not go after the ball, he went after the leg instead. So his intention was not to break his leg. But it is clear the intent was to injure

I am waiting to see the English press savage the guy like they did when Essien stamped on Hamann's leg

They will not. They are already making the excuses. He is English and Arsenal do not have English players. You need to follow the media here and hear the xenophobia against Arsenal.

It's not about being English. It was indeed a bad tackle, but there was no malicious intent to injure the player. What do you expect the FA to do? Ban the guy for life? Let us not get carried away here, even Wenger has had a thorough review of the incident and retracted his earlier comments, why can't you guys do the same?

Has it occurred to you guys that the fact that Eduardo's foot was a bit stuck on the ground may also have made the situation worse? This tackle is just as bad as the tackles made by Gerrard, Essien and others. Sure the result is a disaster, but I don't see how you can ban a player for this. These tackles are often worse in slow motion, but in real time you can see that it wasn't a malicious act.

[Waffiman]

Spot on Yujam. That pic is clear evidence. He never went for the ball, he did as his Manager instructed. We all know it, it is the only way the English can beat the foreigner.

I don't buy it. He didn't go for the ball. He went for the leg. If you've played football, dirty players often do this to rattle a player etc etc. I am sure his intention was not to break Eduardo's leg but there is no doubt in my mind that he went for the dirty tackle which resulted in the worst possible outcome

Maradona:
Watch the replay. The tackle was intentional. Taylor did not go after the ball, he went after the leg instead. So his intention was not to break his leg. But it is clear the intent was to injure

I am waiting to see the English press savage the guy like they did when Essien stamped on Hamann's leg

They will not. They are already making the excuses. He is English and Arsenal do not have English players. You need to follow the media here and hear the xenophobia against Arsenal.

It's not about being English. It was indeed a bad tackle, but there was no malicious intent to injure the player. What do you expect the FA to do? Ban the guy for life? Let us not get carried away here, even Wenger has had a thorough review of the incident and retracted his earlier comments, why can't you guys do the same?

Has it occurred to you guys that the fact that Eduardo's foot was a bit stuck on the ground may also have made the situation worse? This tackle is just as bad as the tackles made by Gerrard, Essien and others. Sure the result is a disaster, but I don't see how you can ban a player for this. These tackles are often worse in slow motion, but in real time you can see that it wasn't a malicious act.

[tfco]

It appears you're the one being stupid. According to Arsene Wenger:
"I feel that my comments about Martin Taylor were excessive. I said what I did in the heat of the moment".

Now that is the reaction of a wise and intelligent man who understands he was harsh with his comments, I don't know why you will not follow his example.

Btw, you can sue him if you feel "it was a malicious assault which was done with malice aforethought". Just be prepared to prove he had the intention to hurt Eduardo. Good luck proving it, cos you're gonna need it.

You are wasting your time.
He has taken it upon himself to peruse all other fan sites to weed out the scummy ones from the 'praise-worthy' ones. Probably grieving more than Arsene himself.

BTW Taylor didn't go for the ball; it was obvious. Essien did that tackle 2 years ago and got labelled a thug the entire season.

[Maradona]

It was a bad tackle, no one's disputing that (well not me anyway).

I don't buy it. He didn't go for the ball. He went for the leg. If you've played football, dirty players often do this to rattle a player etc etc. I am sure his intention was not to break Eduardo's leg but there is no doubt in my mind that he went for the dirty tackle which resulted in the worst possible outcome

Maradona:
Watch the replay. The tackle was intentional. Taylor did not go after the ball, he went after the leg instead. So his intention was not to break his leg. But it is clear the intent was to injure

I am waiting to see the English press savage the guy like they did when Essien stamped on Hamann's leg

They will not. They are already making the excuses. He is English and Arsenal do not have English players. You need to follow the media here and hear the xenophobia against Arsenal.

It's not about being English. It was indeed a bad tackle, but there was no malicious intent to injure the player. What do you expect the FA to do? Ban the guy for life? Let us not get carried away here, even Wenger has had a thorough review of the incident and retracted his earlier comments, why can't you guys do the same?

Has it occurred to you guys that the fact that Eduardo's foot was a bit stuck on the ground may also have made the situation worse? This tackle is just as bad as the tackles made by Gerrard, Essien and others. Sure the result is a disaster, but I don't see how you can ban a player for this. These tackles are often worse in slow motion, but in real time you can see that it wasn't a malicious act.

[grammar patrol]

It was certainly a horrible tackle, but these holy gooners...kai.

I didn't hear them say anything when Eboue did Terry.

[Killa Adjei]

What Taylor did is disgraceful but I think calling for his ban is unwarranted, I don't think he had the intent to go and injure Eduardo with his tackle, he would have to be the lowest person to have that sort of intent...

[YUJAM]

Yes. So he should be punished like Essien was or even worse.

The English press should also be up in arms about the tackle just as they were with Essien's horror tackle on Hamann. Now I can see why players like Drogba, Eboue and Co dive. Some of these English players are straight up thugs and if you give them the opp, they will break your leg

It was a bad tackle, no one's disputing that (well not me anyway).

I don't buy it. He didn't go for the ball. He went for the leg. If you've played football, dirty players often do this to rattle a player etc etc. I am sure his intention was not to break Eduardo's leg but there is no doubt in my mind that he went for the dirty tackle which resulted in the worst possible outcome

Maradona:
Watch the replay. The tackle was intentional. Taylor did not go after the ball, he went after the leg instead. So his intention was not to break his leg. But it is clear the intent was to injure

I am waiting to see the English press savage the guy like they did when Essien stamped on Hamann's leg

They will not. They are already making the excuses. He is English and Arsenal do not have English players. You need to follow the media here and hear the xenophobia against Arsenal.

It's not about being English. It was indeed a bad tackle, but there was no malicious intent to injure the player. What do you expect the FA to do? Ban the guy for life? Let us not get carried away here, even Wenger has had a thorough review of the incident and retracted his earlier comments, why can't you guys do the same?

Has it occurred to you guys that the fact that Eduardo's foot was a bit stuck on the ground may also have made the situation worse? This tackle is just as bad as the tackles made by Gerrard, Essien and others. Sure the result is a disaster, but I don't see how you can ban a player for this. These tackles are often worse in slow motion, but in real time you can see that it wasn't a malicious act.

[bakana]

It was certainly a horrible tackle, but these holy gooners...kai.

I didn't hear them say anything when Eboue did Terry.

Please leave Eboue out of this,in that match, Terry in the previous play went in to maim Cesc that was already on the turf so even thou I don't approve it was more of pay back time for Terry but this was a horrific tackle that was not in anyway provoked, and I don't see what Terry/Eboue fracas has to do with Taylor's tackle.

[Its a Goal]

I can understand the OTT Arsenal fans' reaction to the Eduardo injury, especially to tfco's initial comment on this thread. Just like Wenger, after thoughts can be a wonderful thing as it gives you the opportunity to re-evaluate your initial position after reviewing facts. I can see why some Arsenal fans could have though tfco was nonchalant about Eduardo's injury however after explaining himself, it is only fair for these Gooners to back off him.

With that said, you have to put things in perspective and examine Taylor as a player. Taylor is certainly not considered a dirty player in the league cos he has an exemplary record. In 12 matches this season, he has picked up no yellow cards and the 1 red card from yesterday. In 91 matches for Birmingham, he has on his record 4 yellow cards and and the 1 red card. Certainly he couldn't have played that many matches and only received such few cards if he was such a malicious player. Wayne Rooney, the English poster boy, has 8 yellow cards this season in 27 matches with no red card yet he is not vilified as a thug (ref: bbc: Taylor, Rooney).

Now on to the tackle itself. The sequence of events at first glance seemed like Taylor went for the ball, missed, being defensive minded didn't want to conceed possession to Eduardo to exploit therefore put in a tackle to slow him down. Now was he attempting to maim him? I seriously doubt it. After the tackle, he went up to Eduardo to shake his hand in a sportsmanship manner but found that he had done more damage than he envisaged. It is an unfortunate incident but that is part and parcle of what to expect in a contact sport.

Now what should be the appropriate punishment? Obviously the minimum that the FA can impose is a 3 match ban. I will advocate for a harsher punishment. The FA has done well up to now to stop players showing their studs when tackling by telling refs to issue a red card immediately (Obi has being the recipient of this rule far too many times), however in the case where an injury has occured, the offending player should be given an indefinite suspension till the injured player recovers. They should also put a freeze on the offending player's wages to serve as a deterrent for other players.

[bobbye]

mschewww

You see this.

COME ON EDUARDO!

2/23/2008

MILAN - Eduardo Da Silva has broken his left leg in the match against Birmingham today, as reported by the BBC. The Rossoneri's family wishes the Arsenal striker all the best and a quick return to playing.

Yes! It is from AC Milan's site. It is called class. It is how civilised people behave. But you are a dog, a mongrel of the lowest calibre, so I am not surprised at your response.

Words cannot describe the contempt I feel for Mr Waffiman do you have to restort to abusive languageeverytime somebody differs with your own opinion. Believe you me you need to grow up and learn how to be civil to others.I sincerely believe you lack home training when you were growing up. A word is enough for the wise. There is no question in my mind you will vehemently vituperate me on this friendly advice. I guess it is genetically embedded in you, invariably, you can not help yourself. Good luck.
you. :x :x

[MI5]

Tfco,

You should be ashamed of yourself... You are a total disgrace to yourself and your response to this thread says a lot about you and your character. I guess because it didn't happen to a Manure player, everything is fine. I guess because you hate Arsenal so much, it's okay if it happens to others.


It's a complete shame the kind of people in here like Tfco and others who would rather look the other way and try to put a spin to something that the whole world saw. The tackle was a direct attack on a player and there is no place for those type of tackles in futbol regardless of what team you support. If this had been a Manure or Spuds player, they would have gone up in arms crying like babies in here calling for action. I am not an Arsenal fan but there is a possibility a player may never play again due to a player trying to end a player's career and yet you and others in here are trying to put a spin to it because it happened to an Arsenal player... You guys and others should be ashamed of yourself and had this been a Nigerian or Ghanian player this happened to, the outcry would have been different from every African living on this planet and on this forum

There is no place in futbol for such tackle whether you support Man U or you support Inter Milan, things like this should be outlawed and stopped from happening again. Your response to this thread is a classic example of who you are in real life. It doesn't take long for the demons in you to come out. I am a hardcore Bayern Munich fan but this tackle against Eduardo was way out of line, it was wrong and it should not be accepted regardless of how you are trying to spin it.

Some couple of seasons ago another hopeless defender called Ben Thatcher almost ended Pedro Mendes life by slamming him into the billboard because he wanted to tackle him. That image was beamed all over the world and it was only when it made headlines that those racist pigs in the FA decided to act. Mendes was knocked out completely and had to be taken straight to the hospital when he couldn't regain conciousness. I guess since he wasn't playing for Manure nobody cared. Thank God he was able to come back...


You guys trying to put a spin to it are not much different from the two Nigerian guys who ended up killing the other over an argument about whose team in the EPL was better.. The end result over it turned out to be death. Same nonsense online....


The player should be banned for life for what he did and he deserves it. There is no place for such thing in futbol. Shame on all you guys trying to say otherwise...

[Its a Goal]

Em, Mi5, I have not found any post that is justifying or defending the action of Taylor. Furthermore, nobody is raining on Arsenal's parade because they hate Arsenal. Infact everything I've being reading has been expressing sympathy. What some are fed up with is the OTT by some Gooners on what should happen to Taylor and how Arsenal is treated.

[MI5]

There is no excuse and this has nothing to do with Arsenal. If this tackle was on Terry, Lampard or Rooney, Taylor would have been sitting in jail right now. There would have been outcry all over the place about this and that. When Essien tackled Hamman like that some couple of years ago. There was outcry all over the world including FIFA asking Essien to be reprimanded. Ferguson in the past has whinned and cried about how his players have been kicked but when his own players like that thug Scholes does it, it's okay... Taylor should be banned for life...

Em, Mi5, I have not found any post that is justifying or defending the action of Taylor. Furthermore, nobody is raining on Arsenal's parade because they hate Arsenal. Infact everything I've being reading has been expressing sympathy. What some are fed up with is the OTT by some Gooners on what should happen to Taylor and how Arsenal is treated.

[Orion]

The dude should be banned for the rest of the season. I've seen the tackle from different angles and it looks deliberate to me. There was no reason to go in with raised studs on the man's ankle. It was a malicious evil act. I've noticed that English players have been getting away with these horror tackles without much noise from the media but if it was an African player we'll not hear the end of it. There was the other guy who elbowed a player unconscious and some of the English analysts even thought it was funny.

If the English press are gonna try to sweep horror tackles like this under the carpet while screaming their heads off about tackles from "foreigners" then it is up to us to make some noise about this. I don't see anything wrong with the petition.

[Eaglezbeak]

thank you I dont ever want to see Martin Taylor again!