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1naija wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:38 pm Guys, just a quick question...

Is Monkey Doctor the guy name form of Damunkey?

That's all I got from this thread. Everything else is bullshiat. Should he be the one approaching and begging Nigeria?
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I'm sure also other players who in the past refused Nigeria will regret their choice and become avaible for SE.
I'm talking about Adarabioyo, Eze etc. After the 2022 world cup, they will realize they will never be called for England, and they will declare their availability for Nigeria.
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pindal123 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:52 am I'm sure also other players who in the past refused Nigeria will regret their choice and become avaible for SE.
I'm talking about Adarabioyo, Eze etc. After the 2022 world cup, they will realize they will never be called for England, and they will declare their availability for Nigeria.
But these countries can be sneaky.
They will invite them just to do enough to 'turn their heads'.
Once they do that, they can string them along for a little longer.
A single invitation is enough.
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Would you take him? Obviously, time has ran out on his Germany aspirations and he might have come to terms with his fate and realized that the only German shirt he’ll wear is the one he buys. However, he is a very good CD that’ll add depth to SE, we do not have a LCB with his experience and quality yet. I no go lie, I will swallow my pride and invite him to SE. Maybe give him the Akpoguma treatment and make him sit on the bench for 5 games before debuting him vs CAR away. :laugh:
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Is Ozonwafor equivalent to his club? Bros, it is the individual and not the team that receives invitation to play for Super Eagles. According to your logic, all Watford players who play for Nigeria should now be ignored because Watford is relegated. Not so? The logic is missing.

It needs to go hand in hand. Unless you are a top country with multiple top level options like Germany, Spain, England, Brazil, etc

But you cannot simply ignore the level the player is at. For instance, a Nigerian player in Mongolia should not come under consideration.
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Damunk wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:13 pm
pindal123 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:52 am I'm sure also other players who in the past refused Nigeria will regret their choice and become avaible for SE.
I'm talking about Adarabioyo, Eze etc. After the 2022 world cup, they will realize they will never be called for England, and they will declare their availability for Nigeria.
But these countries can be sneaky.
They will invite them just to do enough to 'turn their heads'.
Once they do that, they can string them along for a little longer.
A single invitation is enough.


I think what is often forgotten by folks such as pindall123's is that these are decisions with significant impact on the life/careers of these guys, whereas for us, we are simply looking at these as fans on the sidelines drinking big stout...

It would be interesting to see what decision many here would make if given a choice to work for the Nigerian government or the US or European...
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1naija wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:38 pm Guys, just a quick question...

Is Monkey Doctor the guy name form of Damunkey?

That's all I got from this thread. Everything else is bullshiat. Should he be the one approaching and begging Nigeria?
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txj wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:36 pm
Damunk wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:13 pm
pindal123 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:52 am I'm sure also other players who in the past refused Nigeria will regret their choice and become avaible for SE.
I'm talking about Adarabioyo, Eze etc. After the 2022 world cup, they will realize they will never be called for England, and they will declare their availability for Nigeria.
But these countries can be sneaky.
They will invite them just to do enough to 'turn their heads'.
Once they do that, they can string them along for a little longer.
A single invitation is enough.
I think what is often forgotten by folks such as pindall123's is that these are decisions with significant impact on the life/careers of these guys, whereas for us, we are simply looking at these as fans on the sidelines drinking big stout...
I’ve pointed this out countless times but fans will be fans and will throw shade regardless.
It would be interesting to see what decision many here would make if given a choice to work for the Nigerian government or the US or European...
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It’s pretty clear what they’d do….and many have done it already. But they will still hurl insults and question the Nigerianness of players that hesitate, hedge their bets and ultimately choose to take their chances with other countries.
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There’re rumors that West Ham are interested in signing him, if he goes to the Epl , the same people who don’t want him now will be the ones asking for Coach Pese’s head on a platter for not inviting him. The way to the hearts of Nigerians is through London. It’s an automatic SE shirt.
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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:34 pm There’re rumors that West Ham are interested in signing him, if he goes to the Epl , the same people who don’t want him now will be the ones asking for Coach Pese’s head on a platter for not inviting him. The way to the hearts of Nigerians is through London. It’s an automatic SE shirt.
Guy, those that "don't want him now" are the same guys that won't want him wherever he plays. In fact, they'll want him even less if he goes to the EPL. They have this pathological hatred of anything English and that includes their own 'innit' kith and kin that might have English blood.
They say it has something to do with colonialism and similar pathology can be found in French-speaking Africa wrt France.

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His career went down with Hertha Berlin and he couldn't get in the side that had to go through the playoffs to retain their Bundesliga slot. He was farmed out to Gent in Belgium and played very well there but according to German sources, there's no way back for him in Hertha Berlin as he's not in the coach's plans for the new season.
Some CEs are not comfortable with him, not because of his refusal to play for us but his father's comments about his son never playing for Nigeria despite being a former Nigerian football star himself.
There are rumours that West Ham are interested in him and I hope it works out well. I just hope we can let bygones be bygones and engage him if he's interested in playing for us.
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Dammy wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:14 pm His career went down with Hertha Berlin and he couldn't get in the side that had to go through the playoffs to retain their Bundesliga slot. He was farmed out to Gent in Belgium and played very well there but according to German sources, there's no way back for him in Hertha Berlin as he's not in the coach's plans for the new season.
Some CEs are not comfortable with him, not because of his refusal to play for us but his father's comments about his son never playing for Nigeria despite being a former Nigerian football star himself.
There are rumours that West Ham are interested in him and I hope it works out well. I just hope we can let bygones be bygones and engage him if he's interested in playing for us.
I was just about to type. Thank God I read your comment.

It is one thing to turn us down, even the boy from Leicester, did and we welcomed him, thereafter. It is another thing for your useless father to take time out of his useless life to insult us for no reason - simply because we invited his son. Prior to that, I had never seen something like that before. Its like you ask a girl out on a date, she said no. No wahala. You are about to leave their compound and her father rushes out of the house, wrapper tied, chewing stick in mouth, and only one slippers and begins to hurl insults at you. Shebi since that day, his sons career went down the drain? He should ask us to release our grip first! ánụ́mànụ̀.
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danfo driver wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:55 pm
Dammy wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:14 pm His career went down with Hertha Berlin and he couldn't get in the side that had to go through the playoffs to retain their Bundesliga slot. He was farmed out to Gent in Belgium and played very well there but according to German sources, there's no way back for him in Hertha Berlin as he's not in the coach's plans for the new season.
Some CEs are not comfortable with him, not because of his refusal to play for us but his father's comments about his son never playing for Nigeria despite being a former Nigerian football star himself.
There are rumours that West Ham are interested in him and I hope it works out well. I just hope we can let bygones be bygones and engage him if he's interested in playing for us.
I was just about to type. Thank God I read your comment.

It is one thing to turn us down, even the boy from Leicester, did and we welcomed him, thereafter. It is another thing for your useless father to take time out of his useless life to insult us for no reason - simply because we invited his son. Prior to that, I had never seen something like that before. Its like you ask a girl out on a date, she said no. No wahala. You are about to leave their compound and her father rushes out of the house, wrapper tied, chewing stick in mouth, and only one slippers and begins to hurl insults at you. Shebi since that day, his sons career went down the drain? He should ask us to release our grip first! ánụ́mànụ̀.
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Dammy wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:10 am
danfo driver wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:55 pm
Dammy wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:14 pm His career went down with Hertha Berlin and he couldn't get in the side that had to go through the playoffs to retain their Bundesliga slot. He was farmed out to Gent in Belgium and played very well there but according to German sources, there's no way back for him in Hertha Berlin as he's not in the coach's plans for the new season.
Some CEs are not comfortable with him, not because of his refusal to play for us but his father's comments about his son never playing for Nigeria despite being a former Nigerian football star himself.
There are rumours that West Ham are interested in him and I hope it works out well. I just hope we can let bygones be bygones and engage him if he's interested in playing for us.
I was just about to type. Thank God I read your comment.

It is one thing to turn us down, even the boy from Leicester, did and we welcomed him, thereafter. It is another thing for your useless father to take time out of his useless life to insult us for no reason - simply because we invited his son. Prior to that, I had never seen something like that before. Its like you ask a girl out on a date, she said no. No wahala. You are about to leave their compound and her father rushes out of the house, wrapper tied, chewing stick in mouth, and only one slippers and begins to hurl insults at you. Shebi since that day, his sons career went down the drain? He should ask us to release our grip first! ánụ́mànụ̀.
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Danfo,

Some fathers will behave like that if you enter their compound to chase their daughter without consulting with them first. Maybe the dad thought that Nigeria should have engaged him first before talking to Jordan. You know some of these parents act like their child’s agent. For example, Haaland, Mbappe, Rabiot, Neymar etc.
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danfo driver wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:55 pm
Dammy wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:14 pm His career went down with Hertha Berlin and he couldn't get in the side that had to go through the playoffs to retain their Bundesliga slot. He was farmed out to Gent in Belgium and played very well there but according to German sources, there's no way back for him in Hertha Berlin as he's not in the coach's plans for the new season.
Some CEs are not comfortable with him, not because of his refusal to play for us but his father's comments about his son never playing for Nigeria despite being a former Nigerian football star himself.
There are rumours that West Ham are interested in him and I hope it works out well. I just hope we can let bygones be bygones and engage him if he's interested in playing for us.
I was just about to type. Thank God I read your comment.

It is one thing to turn us down, even the boy from Leicester, did and we welcomed him, thereafter. It is another thing for your useless father to take time out of his useless life to insult us for no reason - simply because we invited his son. Prior to that, I had never seen something like that before. Its like you ask a girl out on a date, she said no. No wahala. You are about to leave their compound and her father rushes out of the house, wrapper tied, chewing stick in mouth, and only one slippers and begins to hurl insults at you. Shebi since that day, his sons career went down the drain? He should ask us to release our grip first! ánụ́mànụ̀.
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Scipio Africanus wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:43 pm
1naija wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:38 pm Guys, just a quick question...

Is Monkey Doctor the guy name form of Damunkey?

That's all I got from this thread. Everything else is bullshiat. Should he be the one approaching and begging Nigeria?
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If he is better than what we currently have then why not? However, we've got a problem if the best we have are those not good enough for European national teams. If the likes of Obi, Kanu, and Oliseh were born in Europe in current times, they would have never played for Nigeria as they would have been capped by their nation of birth. It means if we're constantly relying on players from Europe we'll never get players of that caliber. We have to develop them in Nigeria.
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Orion wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:55 pm If he is better than what we currently have then why not? However, we've got a problem if the best we have are those not good enough for European national teams. If the likes of Obi, Kanu, and Oliseh were born in Europe in current times, they would have never played for Nigeria as they would have been capped by their nation of birth. It means if we're constantly relying on players from Europe we'll never get players of that caliber. We have to develop them in Nigeria.
Meaning….they have to be born in Nigeria.
Because if you are waiting for the facilities in Nigeria to catch up with even modest European countries like Turkey, Belgium, Scotland, Croatia…then e go tay o.
You can’t expect our football facilities and infrastructure to advance ahead of what is the norm for the Nigerian society in general. That’s a pipe dream.
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Damunk wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:30 pm
Orion wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:55 pm If he is better than what we currently have then why not? However, we've got a problem if the best we have are those not good enough for European national teams. If the likes of Obi, Kanu, and Oliseh were born in Europe in current times, they would have never played for Nigeria as they would have been capped by their nation of birth. It means if we're constantly relying on players from Europe we'll never get players of that caliber. We have to develop them in Nigeria.
Meaning….they have to be born in Nigeria.
Because if you are waiting for the facilities in Nigeria to catch up with even modest European countries like Turkey, Belgium, Scotland, Croatia…then e go tay o.
You can’t expect our football facilities and infrastructure to advance ahead of what is the norm for the Nigerian society in general. That’s a pipe dream.
Well, if you consider that the state of our facilities is decidedly abnormal then it is not too unrealistic to hope that with the right vision and leadership, we can improve dramatically❗️


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TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 5:57 am
Damunk wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:30 pm
Orion wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:55 pm If he is better than what we currently have then why not? However, we've got a problem if the best we have are those not good enough for European national teams. If the likes of Obi, Kanu, and Oliseh were born in Europe in current times, they would have never played for Nigeria as they would have been capped by their nation of birth. It means if we're constantly relying on players from Europe we'll never get players of that caliber. We have to develop them in Nigeria.
Meaning….they have to be born in Nigeria.
Because if you are waiting for the facilities in Nigeria to catch up with even modest European countries like Turkey, Belgium, Scotland, Croatia…then e go tay o.
You can’t expect our football facilities and infrastructure to advance ahead of what is the norm for the Nigerian society in general. That’s a pipe dream.
Well, if you consider that the state of our facilities is decidedly abnormal then it is not too unrealistic to hope that with the right vision and leadership, we can improve dramatically❗️

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Damunk wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:30 pm
Orion wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:55 pm If he is better than what we currently have then why not? However, we've got a problem if the best we have are those not good enough for European national teams. If the likes of Obi, Kanu, and Oliseh were born in Europe in current times, they would have never played for Nigeria as they would have been capped by their nation of birth. It means if we're constantly relying on players from Europe we'll never get players of that caliber. We have to develop them in Nigeria.
Meaning….they have to be born in Nigeria.
Because if you are waiting for the facilities in Nigeria to catch up with even modest European countries like Turkey, Belgium, Scotland, Croatia…then e go tay o.
You can’t expect our football facilities and infrastructure to advance ahead of what is the norm for the Nigerian society in general. That’s a pipe dream.
You're right. That's what I was actually aiming at. They have to be born in Nigeria and to some extent, start their footballing career in Nigeria, even if just at youth level.
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Cellular wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:14 pm
danfo driver wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:13 pm
It isnt? Really? If he was a homebased player that no one has watched in 2 years and he was called to be in the national team, would that be okay as well?

No one is holding grudges here. All I asked you was when last you watched him. Although its funny how one side isnt supposed to hold grudges, but its okay for the other side to openly insult us, with his trash father running around the whole place spitting on us.
If he has a valuable skillset that we need, why not?

People do grow and have a change of heart... yes, sometimes, circumstances do play a role.
Wondering why reports describe him as a “3-time Germany international”.
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Damunk wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:19 pm
Cellular wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:14 pm
danfo driver wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:13 pm
It isnt? Really? If he was a homebased player that no one has watched in 2 years and he was called to be in the national team, would that be okay as well?

No one is holding grudges here. All I asked you was when last you watched him. Although its funny how one side isnt supposed to hold grudges, but its okay for the other side to openly insult us, with his trash father running around the whole place spitting on us.
If he has a valuable skillset that we need, why not?

People do grow and have a change of heart... yes, sometimes, circumstances do play a role.
Wondering why reports describe him as a “3-time Germany international”.
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