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Lolly wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:11 am
Dammy wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:29 am
Benedict Iroha wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:35 am We need Michael Olise so bad someone creative.
We need to get Michael Folorunsho from Verona ( on loan from Napoli) ASAP before the Italians call him up. He has expressed interest in playing for Nigeria in the past. Like someone pointed out we have a good defence and attack but the midfield is missing
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I don't get this fixation with Olise and Eze. I would take Iwobi over Eze any day. And Olise is competing with Chukwueze/Simon/Lookman and Tella, not Iwobi. We just need to play Iwobi in his attacking position and not as a co-DM.
Only someone with a questionable football IQ will take Iwobi over Eze, like do you even know the output of both players in the premier league at their respective clubs? Jesus Christ...just stick to kissing Buhari's arse for goodness sake.
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Tobi17 wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:23 am
Lolly wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:11 am
Dammy wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:29 am
Benedict Iroha wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:35 am We need Michael Olise so bad someone creative.
We need to get Michael Folorunsho from Verona ( on loan from Napoli) ASAP before the Italians call him up. He has expressed interest in playing for Nigeria in the past. Like someone pointed out we have a good defence and attack but the midfield is missing
You sabi ball. :thumbs:

I don't get this fixation with Olise and Eze. I would take Iwobi over Eze any day. And Olise is competing with Chukwueze/Simon/Lookman and Tella, not Iwobi. We just need to play Iwobi in his attacking position and not as a co-DM.
Only someone with a questionable football IQ will take Iwobi over Eze, like do you even know the output of both players in the premier league at their respective clubs? Jesus Christ...just stick to kissing Buhari's arse for goodness sake.
I don't debate with juveniles. And your knowledge of football does not extend beyond watching EPL on TV. Some of us have played, managed, and studied football.
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Dude still has a lot to offer. Chill out abeg. This is the same thing some of you were saying about Ekong.
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Tobi17 wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:34 am Please, please and please this guy needs to go, just not good enough! JJ scammed us with the worst "playmaker" that has ever donned the jersey for Nigeria. And please don't give me that "he was played out of position" nonsense here, the hallmark of outstanding players is their ability to ALMOST INVARIABLY deliver when the chips are down...Iwobi time and time again has showed he lacks what we need in a difference maker.

Once again we who watch football cried and advocated for true ball playing midfielders to be invited but NFF in all their disgusting corruption called up ONLY 5 midfielders, didn't help that we had a super defensive coach who died on the hill of playing two overplayed midfielders!

No excuses anymore, going into the WCQ and onwards the position of certain players in this MUST BE REVIEWED, we need to force measures to place certain players under serious probation.
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I see the Quack Agent is already touting another player he saw on Twitter. All of a sudden, the quack's eyes has open. No more Aribo 6 games! Aribo 6 games! E eye don clear. Continue supporting corruption. This pain you are feeling now is just the beginning. Quack.
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Tobi17 wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:48 am
Benedict Iroha wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:35 am We need Michael Olise so bad someone creative.
Imagine how better that midfield will look with an Olise/Eze manning it? we're wasting our time with Iwobi, dude is a fraud and I'll never understand why CE members twerk for that guy...he's utterly $#%
Same result if Pase uses any of them the way he used Iwobi.
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For me he played very well all tournament. The guy was played in a new position and he was an important part of the team that got us to the final. It is a difficult position to play in a two man midfield especially if the opposition overcrowds the midfield.

I was mostly impressed with his defensive game. He gave everything on that pitch by sacrificing his urge to attack with positional discipline to fit Paseiro's system. In fact Paseiro's approach towards the whole team was to dull our attack in favor of defence.

That said, Iwobi does have a stamina issue. He gets tired easily in games and event at club level hardly ever lasts for 90 minutes. I have observed he is always tired by the 70th minute.

We lost the final for two reasons; first the 5-2-3 system that got us to the final should have been turned to a 4-3-3 earlier in the game because we needed goals, not ten minutes to the end of the game. Secondly, for some reason our players were all tired and fatigued compared to the opposition.

That said the opposition were better tactically and completed nullified our team.
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I think we would need to play Iwobi right side of midfielder and Lookman on the left with Victor O as the striker (which would be 3 up front) or play Victor O as a lone striker and have Iwobi (right) and midfielder (central) and Lookman (left).
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Tbite wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:27 am Not sure what formation or even tactics have to do with basic technical ability. He couldn't even play simple passes, and no it's not just in this game.

A player could be a few yards away and Iwobi would mess up the pass, what does that have to do with positioning?

The player is average. Maybe in his natural position he would be a little less average, but average nonetheless.

If he is our best, we are in a predicament.
If you tell dem, many go argue with you. I don study Iwobi, and have concluded that Iwobi is at best an average player. Even at RW, I will rather play Chukwueze there than Iwobi. If Iwobi is the one we are banking on as an AM, then we are in trouble.
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Tobi17 wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:23 am
Lolly wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:11 am
Dammy wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:29 am
Benedict Iroha wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:35 am We need Michael Olise so bad someone creative.
We need to get Michael Folorunsho from Verona ( on loan from Napoli) ASAP before the Italians call him up. He has expressed interest in playing for Nigeria in the past. Like someone pointed out we have a good defence and attack but the midfield is missing
You sabi ball. :thumbs:

I don't get this fixation with Olise and Eze. I would take Iwobi over Eze any day. And Olise is competing with Chukwueze/Simon/Lookman and Tella, not Iwobi. We just need to play Iwobi in his attacking position and not as a co-DM.
Only someone with a questionable football IQ will take Iwobi over Eze, like do you even know the output of both players in the premier league at their respective clubs? Jesus Christ...just stick to kissing Buhari's arse for goodness sake.
Well, let’s see here, Mr high-football-iq. The main engine of Fulham has his club competing for 3rd place in the EPL while the main engine for Crystal Palace is battling relegation with his club. Indeed, Eze all the way, in a deluded mind… :tic: :!:


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TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:04 pm
Tobi17 wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:23 am
Lolly wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:11 am
Dammy wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:29 am
Benedict Iroha wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:35 am We need Michael Olise so bad someone creative.
We need to get Michael Folorunsho from Verona ( on loan from Napoli) ASAP before the Italians call him up. He has expressed interest in playing for Nigeria in the past. Like someone pointed out we have a good defence and attack but the midfield is missing
You sabi ball. :thumbs:

I don't get this fixation with Olise and Eze. I would take Iwobi over Eze any day. And Olise is competing with Chukwueze/Simon/Lookman and Tella, not Iwobi. We just need to play Iwobi in his attacking position and not as a co-DM.
Only someone with a questionable football IQ will take Iwobi over Eze, like do you even know the output of both players in the premier league at their respective clubs? Jesus Christ...just stick to kissing Buhari's arse for goodness sake.
Well, let’s see here, Mr high-football-iq. The main engine of Fulham has his club competing for 3rd place in the EPL while the main engine for Crystal Palace is battling relegation with his club. Indeed, Eze all the way, in a deluded mind… :tic: :!:


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Eze is not fit and not played his best football this year....Iwobi on the other hand is having a great season and is very versatile as a midfielder...
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onovo wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:26 pm
Tbite wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:27 am Not sure what formation or even tactics have to do with basic technical ability. He couldn't even play simple passes, and no it's not just in this game.

A player could be a few yards away and Iwobi would mess up the pass, what does that have to do with positioning?

The player is average. Maybe in his natural position he would be a little less average, but average nonetheless.

If he is our best, we are in a predicament.
If you tell dem, many go argue with you. I don study Iwobi, and have concluded that Iwobi is at best an average player. Even at RW, I will rather play Chukwueze there than Iwobi. If Iwobi is the one we are banking on as an AM, then we are in trouble.
Your conclusion is your opinion, and its the wrong one. You are free to conclude anything you wish though, doesn't really make any difference, and doesn't reduce Iwobi's quality that continues to be seen more and more.
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Enyi wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:15 pm
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:04 pm
Tobi17 wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:23 am
Lolly wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:11 am
Dammy wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:29 am
Benedict Iroha wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:35 am We need Michael Olise so bad someone creative.
We need to get Michael Folorunsho from Verona ( on loan from Napoli) ASAP before the Italians call him up. He has expressed interest in playing for Nigeria in the past. Like someone pointed out we have a good defence and attack but the midfield is missing
You sabi ball. :thumbs:

I don't get this fixation with Olise and Eze. I would take Iwobi over Eze any day. And Olise is competing with Chukwueze/Simon/Lookman and Tella, not Iwobi. We just need to play Iwobi in his attacking position and not as a co-DM.
Only someone with a questionable football IQ will take Iwobi over Eze, like do you even know the output of both players in the premier league at their respective clubs? Jesus Christ...just stick to kissing Buhari's arse for goodness sake.
Well, let’s see here, Mr high-football-iq. The main engine of Fulham has his club competing for 3rd place in the EPL while the main engine for Crystal Palace is battling relegation with his club. Indeed, Eze all the way, in a deluded mind… :tic: :!:


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Eze is not fit and not played his best football this year....Iwobi on the other hand is having a great season and is very versatile as a midfielder...
You are quite correct… but the there is also the tendency of some to confuse style with substance, which is why some might think that a guy who likes to flick the ball behind his back is better than one who prefers the simple pass. In very rare instances, the style and substance can be very firmly intertwined, as was the case with one Jay Jay Okocha🤔❗️


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fabio wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:13 pm I think we would need to play Iwobi right side of midfielder and Lookman on the left with Victor O as the striker (which would be 3 up front) or play Victor O as a lone striker and have Iwobi (right) and midfielder (central) and Lookman (left).
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fabio wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:13 pm I think we would need to play Iwobi right side of midfielder and Lookman on the left with Victor O as the striker (which would be 3 up front) or play Victor O as a lone striker and have Iwobi (right) and midfielder (central) and Lookman (left).
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The coaches are the problem with this team. The coaches we have hired since **** firing have been absolute rubbish. Pissero, Finidi and now Eguavoen. They cannot get the best out of these players and to add salt to the wound they invite out of form players like Ihenacho and Sadiq and well as straight up rubbish players like Victo Collins and Benjamin Tiaminu who have 0 business getting callups. Look at what the Angolan coach has done. Their best player is Mabuluu and he plays in Libya. Their other top payer Freddy plays for a lowly Turkish team yet these guys play ball well as ateam. Get us a good coach and the SEs will fly again. Eguavoen is rubbish and will take us to the abyss if he is retained.
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Iwobi is in the form of his life.
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Iwobi and Bassey’s kids will tease each other for decades and decades over that pic. The joy of football is not fake. Thats why we love the game! :thumb:
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He should score more...
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txj wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:46 pm He should score more...
Iwobi makes a team better but individually his game is not the type that can force his will on the opponent to score or create. I think the coaches that get the best out of him have a clearly defined role for him to play in the offense that enhances the team’s chances of scoring. No matter what we think of his pedigree, Iwobi is one of the best players I’ve seen at playing to instructions. He goes out there and does what the coach instructs him to do, he’ll even add extra defensive jara on top.

The problem with SE is that we just put him out there and ask him to create. To be the No 10/ AM by making plays and creating chances for attackers. He can do it but that’s not his best attribute. You have to create an offensive structure that includes Iwobi, not for him to create the offense.
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