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If they hire him. I will support him and wish for success. I will give him the usual 6 months to see the direction of the team. Then will decide if he is good enough. I am fair and consistent whether na local coach or foreign coach. It is equal treatment. if he is not up to standard, he has to go. Nigeria should bee a powerhouse in Africa. Drawing against teams like Lesotho and Zimbabwe in competitive games is unacceptable. Reaching semi finals at Afcon is unacceptable. The Standard is to win Afcon and to get to atleast the 2nd round of the WC. That is the standard Nigeria should always have. Also coaches got to be winners. But the NFF have lowered that standard. WOWO Nigerians only apply that standard to local coaches. If Torrent doesn't do well against SA and Benin. I will not blame him. he is walking into a tough job. It is not going to be easy.
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This is 2024.... na so una dey drop names of "Hey You" coaches (and players) since 2004...
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You know finidi has a day job right as the coach of Enyimba right ? Abi u don follow join Enyimba to sack am ?
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I know but eventually he will want to manage a national team. Continue to make progress in his career. Go where they want you.Siddonlook11 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:40 pmYou know finidi has a day job right as the coach of Enyimba right ? Abi u don follow join Enyimba to sack am ?
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With supporters like you, who needs detractors? Just like that you don jump off Finidi bandwagon.ohenhen1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:49 pm If they hire him. I will support him and wish for success. I will give him the usual 6 months to see the direction of the team. Then will decide if he is good enough. I am fair and consistent whether na local coach or foreign coach. It is equal treatment. if he is not up to standard, he has to go. Nigeria should bee a powerhouse in Africa. Drawing against teams like Lesotho and Zimbabwe in competitive games is unacceptable. Reaching semi finals at Afcon is unacceptable. The Standard is to win Afcon and to get to atleast the 2nd round of the WC. That is the standard Nigeria should always have. Also coaches got to be winners. But the NFF have lowered that standard. WOWO Nigerians only apply that standard to local coaches. If Torrent doesn't do well against SA and Benin. I will not blame him. he is walking into a tough job. It is not going to be easy.

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Stop with the Fake news.EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:27 pmWith supporters like you, who needs detractors? Just like that you don jump off Finidi bandwagon.ohenhen1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:49 pm If they hire him. I will support him and wish for success. I will give him the usual 6 months to see the direction of the team. Then will decide if he is good enough. I am fair and consistent whether na local coach or foreign coach. It is equal treatment. if he is not up to standard, he has to go. Nigeria should bee a powerhouse in Africa. Drawing against teams like Lesotho and Zimbabwe in competitive games is unacceptable. Reaching semi finals at Afcon is unacceptable. The Standard is to win Afcon and to get to atleast the 2nd round of the WC. That is the standard Nigeria should always have. Also coaches got to be winners. But the NFF have lowered that standard. WOWO Nigerians only apply that standard to local coaches. If Torrent doesn't do well against SA and Benin. I will not blame him. he is walking into a tough job. It is not going to be easy.![]()
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He is perfect for the NFF then. He will tell us how we need to be patient and learn from Morocco and Senegal.Lolly wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:24 pm Hmmm.
A quick google check reveals he would be a bad choice. He has failed in his recent head coach positions - New York City, Flamengo and Galatasaray. He didn’t last more than 6 months in his last two jobs before he was sacked.
He’s had a good career as number 2 working with Guardiola but obviously not a successful career as the number 1 in all the clubs he has managed.
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aruako1 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:50 amHe is perfect for the NFF then. He will tell us how we need to be patient and learn from Morocco and Senegal.Lolly wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:24 pm Hmmm.
A quick google check reveals he would be a bad choice. He has failed in his recent head coach positions - New York City, Flamengo and Galatasaray. He didn’t last more than 6 months in his last two jobs before he was sacked.
He’s had a good career as number 2 working with Guardiola but obviously not a successful career as the number 1 in all the clubs he has managed.
Why do you guys think a coach can wave a magic wand and start winning right away? Do you know the personnel he inherited at the clubs he coached or the trajectory of the clubs at the time he took over? Besides, since when did winning at a club equal winning with SE? When Pesseiro was hired you people said he was a failure in Venezuela but he needed up taking SE to Afcon finals. Perhaps it’s time to admit that you know little to nothing about what it takes to win just from googling.
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Have we (the NFL) ever hired a coach based on merit? They all come to Naija and make their names
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Na today? you do not know the typical Nigerian? The usual "Do you know who I am?" "Do you know my father?"

We are excited by connections! By names.. by God fatherism. It tickles us! We do not like talent or quality. So long as your best friend is in high places (Mourinho, Pep), thats all that matters.
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We can make similar excuses for any coach. Show me where I said anything about Peseiro before he was hired...I'm waiting. But I know that I do not want the cowardly football he played against Cote d'ivoire for my team. If NFF decides to hire Torrent after his poor record, we will support the team and hope for the best. So face NFF, not me.EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:41 amaruako1 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:50 amHe is perfect for the NFF then. He will tell us how we need to be patient and learn from Morocco and Senegal.Lolly wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:24 pm Hmmm.
A quick google check reveals he would be a bad choice. He has failed in his recent head coach positions - New York City, Flamengo and Galatasaray. He didn’t last more than 6 months in his last two jobs before he was sacked.
He’s had a good career as number 2 working with Guardiola but obviously not a successful career as the number 1 in all the clubs he has managed.
Why do you guys think a coach can wave a magic wand and start winning right away? Do you know the personnel he inherited at the clubs he coached or the trajectory of the clubs at the time he took over? Besides, since when did winning at a club equal winning with SE? When Pesseiro was hired you people said he was a failure in Venezuela but he needed up taking SE to Afcon finals. Perhaps it’s time to admit that you know little to nothing about what it takes to win just from googling.
I have never claimed to be an expert in football - if I was one I would be making a living from it. My test is my eye...if the team is playing well even grandma from the village will know...the game is not that complicated.
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Italy have won World Cups and have a slightly above average league and clubs own academies so when they do get it together they’ll be expected to makeup for their loses,Nigeria on the other hand will most likely become a nation that has been like Hungary,Russia and at best teams that appear every now and again like Bulgaria and Romania,only Nigerian will miss out and the party goes on.EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:53 pmIt happens! It’s been 10 yrs for Italy. If they miss the next one it’ll be a 16yrs absence by 2030 WC if they qualify.if they don’t it’ll be 20yrs. 8yrs is Nattin.
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Re: Domenec Torent -New SE coach?
Dammyvancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:12 pmThe worst thing that can happen to SE, is for us to hire a manager who intends to destroy the foundation of the silver winning team, and NOT CHOOSE PLAYERS BASED ON MERIT.
That is what Finidi intends to do, so in no way can he be a better option.
A foreign coach will not do such a thing.
Given your thoughts above, has your mind changed? If so, how and why? Both Conceciao and Torrent are currently rumored to be at the top of the list to replace Finidi.
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Like you probably know that with me nothing is written in stone. My mind has changed and there’s the need for new coach to give the SE the “ new coach bounce”. I really wanted Finidi to succeed but I can’t deceive myself with both preparation and match day performances, there leaves a lot to be desired.Enugu II wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:31 pmDammyvancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:12 pmThe worst thing that can happen to SE, is for us to hire a manager who intends to destroy the foundation of the silver winning team, and NOT CHOOSE PLAYERS BASED ON MERIT.
That is what Finidi intends to do, so in no way can he be a better option.
A foreign coach will not do such a thing.
Given your thoughts above, has your mind changed? If so, how and why? Both Conceciao and Torrent are currently rumored to be at the top of the list to replace Finidi.
I prefer Conceição as he has experience on the African continent and the only times we failed to beat Cameroon in recent times was when he was in charge. We played 2 friendlies against his team and they beat us 1-0 in the first match with the 2nd ending in a goalless draw.
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Nothing wrong with that. Contexts change and views also change.Dammy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 11:34 pmLike you probably know that with me nothing is written in stone. My mind has changed and there’s the need for new coach to give the SE the “ new coach bounce”. I really wanted Finidi to succeed but I can’t deceive myself with both preparation and match day performances, there leaves a lot to be desired.Enugu II wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:31 pmDammyvancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:12 pmThe worst thing that can happen to SE, is for us to hire a manager who intends to destroy the foundation of the silver winning team, and NOT CHOOSE PLAYERS BASED ON MERIT.
That is what Finidi intends to do, so in no way can he be a better option.
A foreign coach will not do such a thing.
Given your thoughts above, has your mind changed? If so, how and why? Both Conceciao and Torrent are currently rumored to be at the top of the list to replace Finidi.
I prefer Conceição as he has experience on the African continent and the only times we failed to beat Cameroon in recent times was when he was in charge. We played 2 friendlies against his team and they beat us 1-0 in the first match with the 2nd ending in a goalless draw.
TBH, looking at the accomplishments I prefer Domenec over Conceicao. However, I am so sure about media reports on who is and who is bot a finalist.
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I am going treat all WOWO coach the same way they treated Finidi. I think that is equal treatment.
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Re: Domenec Torent -New SE coach?
Like you probably know that with me nothing is written in stone. My mind has changed and there’s the need for new coach to give the SE the “ new coach bounce”. I really wanted Finidi to succeed but I can’t deceive myself with both preparation and match day performances, there leaves a lot to be desired.Enugu II wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:31 pmDammyvancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:12 pmThe worst thing that can happen to SE, is for us to hire a manager who intends to destroy the foundation of the silver winning team, and NOT CHOOSE PLAYERS BASED ON MERIT.
That is what Finidi intends to do, so in no way can he be a better option.
A foreign coach will not do such a thing.
Given your thoughts above, has your mind changed? If so, how and why? Both Conceciao and Torrent are currently rumored to be at the top of the list to replace Finidi.
I prefer Conceição as he has experience on the African continent and the only times we failed to beat Cameroon in recent times was when he was in charge. We played 2 friendlies against his team and they beat us 1-0 in the first match with the 2nd ending in a goalless draw.
I am happy
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Yes we expect WOWO to make basic substitutions and put out lineups that make basic sense.
We expect him to play players in their right position.
We expect him not to call players from Tanzania.