Russia v Nigeria - 1:1 FT

[danfo driver]

Dude, give it a rest! No one is insisting on Ajayi and Ekong,

Here are CEs members' selections for our two critical games:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=321306

Have a nice weekend!

Those selections are based on likely selection patterns by the national team coaches and it’s different from INSISTING on those players as you put it.
The comments are about predicting what the squad would be!

Nice weekend to you too!

False. No need to lie. The first 3 posts on the thread are clear. You can read the rest if you want.

As of today, assuming all,players are healthy. Na,e your squad for these 2 monumental games. No more than 25 pls.

nice list, i will remove Boniface and put Olusegun that guy has speed, chukwueze na CAM

I like your list better

Thought I was the only one that noticed Olusegun, dude was rapid yesterday. I'll definitely include him in the September qualifiers cause we need LOTS of pace and dangerous runs against Rwanda (they will sit deep) and SA for the counters. But we all know Chelle and NFF will pick Sadiq over him (for experience).

Tobi's post even makes it clear that his list is different from what Chelle and the NFF will do.

[txj]

Twi things can be right.

Chelle and this 4-4-2 diamond is really bad for our personnel and we don’t look good in build up and are very vulnerable in wide areas.

Fredericks to me was the revelation this 3 games. He needs to play senior football this coming season ASAP.

Nothing else was particularly revealing. Tolu, goal aside, looked like a serviceable deputy since Rwanda game. Boniface, albeit not a terrible performance is being judged more for his personality than his play. Uche will give us depth but he’s no starter. He was tired 3 mins into scone half and should have been the first one off the pitch not Boniface. Simon was really poor and this was probably Bruno’s worst game for the SE.

Chelle not seeing the folly in his system will be our greatest undoing.

Its very sad to see peeps twisting themselves into pretzels to make excuses for a manager who is not improving the team.
The team is not improving. We can't even play out from the back (even Andorra can!) and the MF is not controlling games...

As for Fredericks, he needs to take his career into his own hands. The S. Korean CD who was in the same WYC as him has played games in the cup and league for Brentford...

This is the most options we have had in the SE, since Keshi had to scrounge for players...

You guys are so funny (I dont mean you and Ugbowo, specifically) but this made me laugh out loud! You insist on Ekong and Ajayi. One of them failed at Tottenham, failed most of his career, playing Div 2 football and ended up on Saudi. The other one has been a Div 2 merchant all his career and was just released by a Div 2 Club. Yet, you want to "play out from the back. WTF is wrong with you guys?? The media and fans support the call up of players who are actually bad. This is not me being mischievous. Players who are actually very bad that even Div 2 clubs do not want them, but yet, you guys smile and twerk and say you want to play out of the back and compete at the highest level.

Whats the problem here?? Am I the only one with a brain in that country?? I know most of you are highly educated, so what is the problem? it cant be corruption anymore, so are you guys just trolling me at this point?

Once again avoiding the issue.
Even if you for one moment took out those two players, it still doesn't explain our inability to play modern organized football.
Andorra defenders are able to build up play. They may not be world class, but with proper team organization, both Ekong and Ajayi can do it.

It does. There is a reason Guardiola and his likes go to buy goalkeepers and defenders who can 'pass the ball out.'

As for your last sentence, I agree that organization and positioning helps. But I disagree with your assertion that Ekong adn Ajayo can start playing modern football after failing their entire career. In fact, Peseiro told Ekong to fvxk off and did not want him, but the NFF forced him on Peseiro, who then decided to change his entire tactics for the nations cup to accomodate him - 3-4-3 and push his team to fall deep and play counter attack -- you know why?? Peseiro knows that Ekong cannot play modern day pass out of the back football. I am sorry, but I believe Peseiro more than you on this one.

Both our GKs are good with their feet.

Bassey our left center back is good with his feet.

So is Aina our right back.

Same for Agu at left back.

Same for any of our DMs, Onyeka, Ndidi or Onyedika.

That's our entire defense minus Ekong.

Yet the manager cannot organize the team to play modern football

[danfo driver]

Twi things can be right.

Chelle and this 4-4-2 diamond is really bad for our personnel and we don’t look good in build up and are very vulnerable in wide areas.

Fredericks to me was the revelation this 3 games. He needs to play senior football this coming season ASAP.

Nothing else was particularly revealing. Tolu, goal aside, looked like a serviceable deputy since Rwanda game. Boniface, albeit not a terrible performance is being judged more for his personality than his play. Uche will give us depth but he’s no starter. He was tired 3 mins into scone half and should have been the first one off the pitch not Boniface. Simon was really poor and this was probably Bruno’s worst game for the SE.

Chelle not seeing the folly in his system will be our greatest undoing.

Its very sad to see peeps twisting themselves into pretzels to make excuses for a manager who is not improving the team.
The team is not improving. We can't even play out from the back (even Andorra can!) and the MF is not controlling games...

As for Fredericks, he needs to take his career into his own hands. The S. Korean CD who was in the same WYC as him has played games in the cup and league for Brentford...

This is the most options we have had in the SE, since Keshi had to scrounge for players...

You guys are so funny (I dont mean you and Ugbowo, specifically) but this made me laugh out loud! You insist on Ekong and Ajayi. One of them failed at Tottenham, failed most of his career, playing Div 2 football and ended up on Saudi. The other one has been a Div 2 merchant all his career and was just released by a Div 2 Club. Yet, you want to "play out from the back. WTF is wrong with you guys?? The media and fans support the call up of players who are actually bad. This is not me being mischievous. Players who are actually very bad that even Div 2 clubs do not want them, but yet, you guys smile and twerk and say you want to play out of the back and compete at the highest level.

Whats the problem here?? Am I the only one with a brain in that country?? I know most of you are highly educated, so what is the problem? it cant be corruption anymore, so are you guys just trolling me at this point?

Once again avoiding the issue.
Even if you for one moment took out those two players, it still doesn't explain our inability to play modern organized football.
Andorra defenders are able to build up play. They may not be world class, but with proper team organization, both Ekong and Ajayi can do it.

It does. There is a reason Guardiola and his likes go to buy goalkeepers and defenders who can 'pass the ball out.'

As for your last sentence, I agree that organization and positioning helps. But I disagree with your assertion that Ekong adn Ajayo can start playing modern football after failing their entire career. In fact, Peseiro told Ekong to fvxk off and did not want him, but the NFF forced him on Peseiro, who then decided to change his entire tactics for the nations cup to accomodate him - 3-4-3 and push his team to fall deep and play counter attack -- you know why?? Peseiro knows that Ekong cannot play modern day pass out of the back football. I am sorry, but I believe Peseiro more than you on this one.

Both our GKs are good with their feet.

Bassey our left center back is good with his feet.

So is Aina our right back.

Same for Agu at left back.

Same for any of our DMs, Onyeka, Ndidi or Onyedika.

That's our entire defense minus Ekong.

Yet the manager cannot organize the team to play modern football

So you agree that Ekong and Ajayi are $#% footballers who are poor with their feet?

[txj]

Twi things can be right.

Chelle and this 4-4-2 diamond is really bad for our personnel and we don’t look good in build up and are very vulnerable in wide areas.

Fredericks to me was the revelation this 3 games. He needs to play senior football this coming season ASAP.

Nothing else was particularly revealing. Tolu, goal aside, looked like a serviceable deputy since Rwanda game. Boniface, albeit not a terrible performance is being judged more for his personality than his play. Uche will give us depth but he’s no starter. He was tired 3 mins into scone half and should have been the first one off the pitch not Boniface. Simon was really poor and this was probably Bruno’s worst game for the SE.

Chelle not seeing the folly in his system will be our greatest undoing.

Its very sad to see peeps twisting themselves into pretzels to make excuses for a manager who is not improving the team.
The team is not improving. We can't even play out from the back (even Andorra can!) and the MF is not controlling games...

As for Fredericks, he needs to take his career into his own hands. The S. Korean CD who was in the same WYC as him has played games in the cup and league for Brentford...

This is the most options we have had in the SE, since Keshi had to scrounge for players...

You guys are so funny (I dont mean you and Ugbowo, specifically) but this made me laugh out loud! You insist on Ekong and Ajayi. One of them failed at Tottenham, failed most of his career, playing Div 2 football and ended up on Saudi. The other one has been a Div 2 merchant all his career and was just released by a Div 2 Club. Yet, you want to "play out from the back. WTF is wrong with you guys?? The media and fans support the call up of players who are actually bad. This is not me being mischievous. Players who are actually very bad that even Div 2 clubs do not want them, but yet, you guys smile and twerk and say you want to play out of the back and compete at the highest level.

Whats the problem here?? Am I the only one with a brain in that country?? I know most of you are highly educated, so what is the problem? it cant be corruption anymore, so are you guys just trolling me at this point?

Once again avoiding the issue.
Even if you for one moment took out those two players, it still doesn't explain our inability to play modern organized football.
Andorra defenders are able to build up play. They may not be world class, but with proper team organization, both Ekong and Ajayi can do it.

It does. There is a reason Guardiola and his likes go to buy goalkeepers and defenders who can 'pass the ball out.'

As for your last sentence, I agree that organization and positioning helps. But I disagree with your assertion that Ekong adn Ajayo can start playing modern football after failing their entire career. In fact, Peseiro told Ekong to fvxk off and did not want him, but the NFF forced him on Peseiro, who then decided to change his entire tactics for the nations cup to accomodate him - 3-4-3 and push his team to fall deep and play counter attack -- you know why?? Peseiro knows that Ekong cannot play modern day pass out of the back football. I am sorry, but I believe Peseiro more than you on this one.

Both our GKs are good with their feet.

Bassey our left center back is good with his feet.

So is Aina our right back.

Same for Agu at left back.

Same for any of our DMs, Onyeka, Ndidi or Onyedika.

That's our entire defense minus Ekong.

Yet the manager cannot organize the team to play modern football

So you agree that Ekong and Ajayi are $#% footballers who are poor with their feet?

I agree that you are avoiding the issue

[Dammy]

Dude, give it a rest! No one is insisting on Ajayi and Ekong,

Here are CEs members' selections for our two critical games:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=321306

Have a nice weekend!

Those selections are based on likely selection patterns by the national team coaches and it’s different from INSISTING on those players as you put it.
The comments are about predicting what the squad would be!

Nice weekend to you too!

False. No need to lie. The first 3 posts on the thread are clear. You can read the rest if you want.

As of today, assuming all,players are healthy. Na,e your squad for these 2 monumental games. No more than 25 pls.

nice list, i will remove Boniface and put Olusegun that guy has speed, chukwueze na CAM

I like your list better

Thought I was the only one that noticed Olusegun, dude was rapid yesterday. I'll definitely include him in the September qualifiers cause we need LOTS of pace and dangerous runs against Rwanda (they will sit deep) and SA for the counters. But we all know Chelle and NFF will pick Sadiq over him (for experience).

Tobi's post even makes it clear that his list is different from what Chelle and the NFF will do.

We all know who the forum liar is!!

[danfo driver]

Dude, give it a rest! No one is insisting on Ajayi and Ekong,

Here are CEs members' selections for our two critical games:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=321306

Have a nice weekend!

Those selections are based on likely selection patterns by the national team coaches and it’s different from INSISTING on those players as you put it.
The comments are about predicting what the squad would be!

Nice weekend to you too!

False. No need to lie. The first 3 posts on the thread are clear. You can read the rest if you want.

As of today, assuming all,players are healthy. Na,e your squad for these 2 monumental games. No more than 25 pls.

nice list, i will remove Boniface and put Olusegun that guy has speed, chukwueze na CAM

I like your list better

Thought I was the only one that noticed Olusegun, dude was rapid yesterday. I'll definitely include him in the September qualifiers cause we need LOTS of pace and dangerous runs against Rwanda (they will sit deep) and SA for the counters. But we all know Chelle and NFF will pick Sadiq over him (for experience).

Tobi's post even makes it clear that his list is different from what Chelle and the NFF will do.

We all know who the forum liar is!!

e do you like film trick, huh?

[amafolas]

The #7 actually had another player in his sight. The Russians actually overloaded that part of the pitch and we appeared to be a man short. There were 5 Russian players against 3 of us.



I still believe Onyedika should have been quicker to close down the player after they doubled up on Osayi. Look at his starting position and look how far back he was from the guy at the time he crosssed the ball into our box.

Excellent .. this picture hightlights the things I mentioned the first time. I am not sure I agree with your take that the problem happened later.

Positioning is not about marking people, it's about understanding spaces and how strategically placing yourself to take away threatening passing patterns from the opponent.

This picture further highlights what I tried to point out earlier. #7 and at least 1 forward started in non-ideal positions.
leaving massive exploitable spaces.



Now imagine a world in which #7 and someone else are positioned as shown below. Nothing threatening will come out of this.
This is how ideally, SE should have been set up. (there's still something that's not perfect, I don't understand where the midfield line is, and the CB line is. But at this phase, its not fatal. The 2 wrong positions i kept point out however are.)


I don't want to make this too much about indvidual errors. Because positioning doesn't occur in isolation. It has to be coherent with the way the coach has set up the team. But yeah, the RB has no fault at all here. Onyedika has almost none either.

[Damunk]

One of the things that became apparent for me during this game was the emphasis on retaining possession even when under pressure and also when there were no obvious openings. So the team would still move the ball around, retaining possession until something opened up.
I think that feature increases the greater the confidence each player has in his teammate’s ability to take care of the ball. We’ve seen it too many times when a player either just tries a long range pass that doesn’t reach its intended destination, or he simply hoofs the ball upfield and out of danger when under pressure.

I don’t know whether anyone remembers the precise moment captured in this image of Onyedika. But he was surrounded by about three Russians with very limited passing options, but refused to be dispossessed of the ball.

He didn’t take the easy ‘abeg, carry your property’ option by passing to a teammate who was in an even tighter situation, but kept the ball and somehow wriggled out of the deadlock, ball still under his control.
The one-touch passes were mostly on point and the accuracy too. It would be nice to see the stats.
These ‘little’ things are what makes the BIG difference between top 10 teams and the rest.

However, I couldn’t help but notice the unforced errors of Ekong in particular. Everyone must have made a few but Ekong’s long range passing really isn’t up to scratch.

[danfo driver]

However, I couldn’t help but notice the unforced errors of Ekong in particular. Everyone must have made a few but Ekong’s long range passing really isn’t up to scratch.

But TxJ said we should "play out of the back."

[vancity eagle]

Russia beating Belarus 3-0 in Belarus at halftime.

[danfo driver]

Russia beating Belarus 3-0 in Belarus at halftime.

keep in mind we were missing

- Nwabali
- Aina
- Bassey
- Agu
- Iwobi
- Chukwueze
- Ndidi
- Osimhen
- Lookman

9 players who would for sure have started. I did not include players that I want to start.

We are very close, the only problem we have that is holding us back is the sabotage.

[txj]

However, I couldn’t help but notice the unforced errors of Ekong in particular. Everyone must have made a few but Ekong’s long range passing really isn’t up to scratch.

But TxJ said we should "play out of the back."

Your tendency to over exaggerate is now a near obsessive issue...

Worse defenders, in places like Malta and Andorra are playing out from the back.
West Brom play out from the back, with Ajayi. Ekong was player of the tournament at the last AFCON.

If the manager designs it, Nigeria can play out from the back. Its not a player failure but a failure of coaching...

[Tobi17]

Russia beating Belarus 3-0 in Belarus at halftime.

keep in mind we were missing

- Nwabali
- Aina
- Bassey
- Agu
- Iwobi
- Chukwueze
- Ndidi
- Osimhen
- Lookman

9 players who would for sure have started. I did not include players that I want to start.

We are very close, the only problem we have that is holding us back is the sabotage.

Dessers is now a key player for us, as much as you won't admit it

[vancity eagle]

Russia beating Belarus 3-0 in Belarus at halftime.

keep in mind we were missing

- Nwabali
- Aina
- Bassey
- Agu
- Iwobi
- Chukwueze
- Ndidi
- Osimhen
- Lookman

9 players who would for sure have started. I did not include players that I want to start.

We are very close, the only problem we have that is holding us back is the sabotage.

Yes I think overall it was a good result, though disappointed with some basic marking lapses and poor offensive output but given the lack of our attacking options it was all good.

[danfo driver]

Russia beating Belarus 3-0 in Belarus at halftime.

keep in mind we were missing

- Nwabali
- Aina
- Bassey
- Agu
- Iwobi
- Chukwueze
- Ndidi
- Osimhen
- Lookman

9 players who would for sure have started. I did not include players that I want to start.

We are very close, the only problem we have that is holding us back is the sabotage.

Dessers is now a key player for us, as much as you won't admit it

Not sure I have ever spoken about Dessers before. I wish the both of you the best.

[Tobi17]

Nah, we're actually more competitive under Chelle...we didn't fare too badly against a very solid Russian team that hasn't lost a game since 2022 with a largely second string team. A full compliment of our squad would have beaten Russia. Senegal had all the core of their key players against England and played a smart counter-attacking game.

But yeah I agree that we're wasting our time with this constant rubbish with deadweights like Ajayi, Ekong and home based projects. See how Olusegun came in for Simon against Russia and gave us something we've missed for long. Players like Otele, Olusegun, Tella etc should be replacing Simon Moses at this point.