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packerland wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:50 pm

txj wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:27 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:36 pm

Ugbowo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:03 pm My main issue with the list.....

Moffi over Sadiq then maybe Tella over Musa.

The goalkeepers and the midfield are a bit meh....but it's whats to be expected.

I am really shocked about Moffi.

Ugbowo,

I think you are spot on regarding Moffi. His exclusion is a major surprise. I thought it was going to be between him and Sadiq for the spot that would have automatically gone to Awoniyi. In my view, Moffi had the edge over Sadiq going in, given Sadiq's long lay off. Thus, it is a major surprise.

As for Tella, I just do not agree with you. He certainly does not deserve getting on the squad at the moment. We could argue on Musa but even then, a better sub would not be Tella at this time. For me, Musa got in as a valedictory tournament pick, nothing more.

Moffi's exclusion could be injury related, having just returned from a hamstring strain.

I could be wrong, but I suspect his competition in that hybrid CF/SS role was Kele rather than Sadiq.

The list is pretty much as expected, Musa's inclusion being what it is...

My main disappointment is that it breaks no new ground wrt new talent...

But the real issue remains HOW WE PLAY and how the players are used...

The guy came back from injury and scored two goals. He’s fine. We’ve carried guys with major knee injuries to bigger tournaments multiple times in the past.

txj wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:39 pm

packerland wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:50 pm

txj wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:27 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:36 pm

Ugbowo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:03 pm My main issue with the list.....

Moffi over Sadiq then maybe Tella over Musa.

The goalkeepers and the midfield are a bit meh....but it's whats to be expected.

I am really shocked about Moffi.

Ugbowo,

I think you are spot on regarding Moffi. His exclusion is a major surprise. I thought it was going to be between him and Sadiq for the spot that would have automatically gone to Awoniyi. In my view, Moffi had the edge over Sadiq going in, given Sadiq's long lay off. Thus, it is a major surprise.

As for Tella, I just do not agree with you. He certainly does not deserve getting on the squad at the moment. We could argue on Musa but even then, a better sub would not be Tella at this time. For me, Musa got in as a valedictory tournament pick, nothing more.

Moffi's exclusion could be injury related, having just returned from a hamstring strain.

I could be wrong, but I suspect his competition in that hybrid CF/SS role was Kele rather than Sadiq.

The list is pretty much as expected, Musa's inclusion being what it is...

My main disappointment is that it breaks no new ground wrt new talent...

But the real issue remains HOW WE PLAY and how the players are used...

The guy came back from injury and scored two goals. He’s fine. We’ve carried guys with major knee injuries to bigger tournaments multiple times in the past.

Its one thing to do that while playing every 7days, and another to do it in a tournament. Its pretty risky to take injured players to tournaments, esp in a position where you have options.

I think they should've included a young, new talent in MF. Particularly Kayode at Fiorentina...

Flex Swift wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:38 pm The NFF have entrusted the national team to a complete and utter moron. If the team get out of the group stage it will be by luck.

txj wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:39 pm

packerland wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:50 pm

txj wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:27 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:36 pm

Ugbowo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:03 pm My main issue with the list.....

Moffi over Sadiq then maybe Tella over Musa.

The goalkeepers and the midfield are a bit meh....but it's whats to be expected.

I am really shocked about Moffi.

Ugbowo,

I think you are spot on regarding Moffi. His exclusion is a major surprise. I thought it was going to be between him and Sadiq for the spot that would have automatically gone to Awoniyi. In my view, Moffi had the edge over Sadiq going in, given Sadiq's long lay off. Thus, it is a major surprise.

As for Tella, I just do not agree with you. He certainly does not deserve getting on the squad at the moment. We could argue on Musa but even then, a better sub would not be Tella at this time. For me, Musa got in as a valedictory tournament pick, nothing more.

Moffi's exclusion could be injury related, having just returned from a hamstring strain.

I could be wrong, but I suspect his competition in that hybrid CF/SS role was Kele rather than Sadiq.

The list is pretty much as expected, Musa's inclusion being what it is...

My main disappointment is that it breaks no new ground wrt new talent...

But the real issue remains HOW WE PLAY and how the players are used...

The guy came back from injury and scored two goals. He’s fine. We’ve carried guys with major knee injuries to bigger tournaments multiple times in the past.

Its one thing to do that while playing every 7days, and another to do it in a tournament. Its pretty risky to take injured players to tournaments, esp in a position where you have options.

I think they should've included a young, new talent in MF. Particularly Kayode at Fiorentina...

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:03 pm

packerland wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:54 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:24 pm

anointed wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:07 pm What are the rationales for Francis Uzoho and Ahmed Musa being on this team?

Anointed,

IMHO, there are few surprises with this selection given the manager's invitations. Uzoho was always going to make the team and BTW he will be the starter for at least the first game Take that to the bank given how Managers often operate. However, the invitation of Nwabili is a clear message that Uzoho is on a short leash and i believe Uzoho knows that.

As for Ebuehi, he had very little chance to make this team and he has not shown that he belongs to a squad making it to the AFCON. Certainly not with his SE performances.

Given how players have been used, the real surprise is Moffi not making it and instead Sadiq taking his place. That is surely a surprise.

On Musa, all of us know that this is a huge surprise and this might just be a valedictory gift and agreement with Musa. That is just my thought.

Ebuehi is not that different from Lookman and some of our other players. Guys that ball for their clubs but are average when playing for the SE. The guy has received very little opportunities since he switched. we need to play Ebuehi in 5-6 straight games as a starter or sub with reasonable minutes and if he doesn’t perform then we can stop inviting him.

Bros,

As you correctly mentioned --- this is about performance at the NT level and not club. Ebuehi has received far more opportunities than numerous others. He has played 12 times for Nigeria. That is a more games compared to many others. This includes being part of the squad to the 2018 World Cup proper. If he received very little opportunities, how many games should he have played?

packerland wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:28 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:03 pm

packerland wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:54 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:24 pm

anointed wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:07 pm What are the rationales for Francis Uzoho and Ahmed Musa being on this team?

Anointed,

IMHO, there are few surprises with this selection given the manager's invitations. Uzoho was always going to make the team and BTW he will be the starter for at least the first game Take that to the bank given how Managers often operate. However, the invitation of Nwabili is a clear message that Uzoho is on a short leash and i believe Uzoho knows that.

As for Ebuehi, he had very little chance to make this team and he has not shown that he belongs to a squad making it to the AFCON. Certainly not with his SE performances.

Given how players have been used, the real surprise is Moffi not making it and instead Sadiq taking his place. That is surely a surprise.

On Musa, all of us know that this is a huge surprise and this might just be a valedictory gift and agreement with Musa. That is just my thought.

Ebuehi is not that different from Lookman and some of our other players. Guys that ball for their clubs but are average when playing for the SE. The guy has received very little opportunities since he switched. we need to play Ebuehi in 5-6 straight games as a starter or sub with reasonable minutes and if he doesn’t perform then we can stop inviting him.

Bros,

As you correctly mentioned --- this is about performance at the NT level and not club. Ebuehi has received far more opportunities than numerous others. He has played 12 times for Nigeria. That is a more games compared to many others. This includes being part of the squad to the 2018 World Cup proper. If he received very little opportunities, how many games should he have played?

Lookan and Boniface are not setting the world on fire with their perfoemnce with the NT. In fact I would say their performance with the SE has been average, but we still rate those two.

Lolly wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:43 pm

packerland wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:28 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:03 pm

packerland wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:54 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:24 pm

anointed wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:07 pm What are the rationales for Francis Uzoho and Ahmed Musa being on this team?

Anointed,

IMHO, there are few surprises with this selection given the manager's invitations. Uzoho was always going to make the team and BTW he will be the starter for at least the first game Take that to the bank given how Managers often operate. However, the invitation of Nwabili is a clear message that Uzoho is on a short leash and i believe Uzoho knows that.

As for Ebuehi, he had very little chance to make this team and he has not shown that he belongs to a squad making it to the AFCON. Certainly not with his SE performances.

Given how players have been used, the real surprise is Moffi not making it and instead Sadiq taking his place. That is surely a surprise.

On Musa, all of us know that this is a huge surprise and this might just be a valedictory gift and agreement with Musa. That is just my thought.

Ebuehi is not that different from Lookman and some of our other players. Guys that ball for their clubs but are average when playing for the SE. The guy has received very little opportunities since he switched. we need to play Ebuehi in 5-6 straight games as a starter or sub with reasonable minutes and if he doesn’t perform then we can stop inviting him.

Bros,

As you correctly mentioned --- this is about performance at the NT level and not club. Ebuehi has received far more opportunities than numerous others. He has played 12 times for Nigeria. That is a more games compared to many others. This includes being part of the squad to the 2018 World Cup proper. If he received very little opportunities, how many games should he have played?

Lookan and Boniface are not setting the world on fire with their perfoemnce with the NT. In fact I would say their performance with the SE has been average, but we still rate those two.

Maybe because they are slightly better than the other options in their respective positions. I would take Lookman over Onyekuru and Ejuke. Similarly, I would take Boniface over Sadiq and Moffi.

Lolly wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:43 pm

packerland wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:28 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:03 pm

packerland wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:54 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:24 pm

anointed wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:07 pm What are the rationales for Francis Uzoho and Ahmed Musa being on this team?

Anointed,

IMHO, there are few surprises with this selection given the manager's invitations. Uzoho was always going to make the team and BTW he will be the starter for at least the first game Take that to the bank given how Managers often operate. However, the invitation of Nwabili is a clear message that Uzoho is on a short leash and i believe Uzoho knows that.

As for Ebuehi, he had very little chance to make this team and he has not shown that he belongs to a squad making it to the AFCON. Certainly not with his SE performances.

Given how players have been used, the real surprise is Moffi not making it and instead Sadiq taking his place. That is surely a surprise.

On Musa, all of us know that this is a huge surprise and this might just be a valedictory gift and agreement with Musa. That is just my thought.

Ebuehi is not that different from Lookman and some of our other players. Guys that ball for their clubs but are average when playing for the SE. The guy has received very little opportunities since he switched. we need to play Ebuehi in 5-6 straight games as a starter or sub with reasonable minutes and if he doesn’t perform then we can stop inviting him.

Bros,

As you correctly mentioned --- this is about performance at the NT level and not club. Ebuehi has received far more opportunities than numerous others. He has played 12 times for Nigeria. That is a more games compared to many others. This includes being part of the squad to the 2018 World Cup proper. If he received very little opportunities, how many games should he have played?

Lookan and Boniface are not setting the world on fire with their perfoemnce with the NT. In fact I would say their performance with the SE has been average, but we still rate those two.

Maybe because they are slightly better than the other options in their respective positions. I would take Lookman over Onyekuru and Ejuke. Similarly, I would take Boniface over Sadiq and Moffi.

anointed wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:07 pm What are the rationales for Francis Uzoho and Ahmed Musa being on this team?

vancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:53 pm Why on earth would Peseiro be opposed to taking an extra 2 players ? Is he footing the bill ? What an eeediot.

As for Musa. Fock his ugly #$%. I hope he tears his Achilles. Piece of shi$

ohenhen1 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:42 am This is not the best we have. They should have fired the coach in July. Imagine still depending on Uzoho. Calling up Musa and EKong.

wiseone wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:45 am Good grief.
That is pure evil. You can oppose Musa’s inclusion in the squad without wishing a crippling injury on a man who has not done you any harm.

vancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:53 pm Why on earth would Peseiro be opposed to taking an extra 2 players ? Is he footing the bill ? What an eeediot.

As for Musa. Fock his ugly #$%. I hope he tears his Achilles. Piece of shi$

wale1974 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:37 am It would have been nice to see Noah Atubolu, Tyronne Ebuehi, Kevin Akpoguma, Igoh Ogbu, Patrick Dorgu, Alhassan Yusuf, Obinna Nwobodo, Michael Folorunsho, Nathan Tella, Terem Moffi, and Chidera Ejuke, But hey this is Nigeria.

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:49 am

wale1974 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:37 am It would have been nice to see Noah Atubolu, Tyronne Ebuehi, Kevin Akpoguma, Igoh Ogbu, Patrick Dorgu, Alhassan Yusuf, Obinna Nwobodo, Michael Folorunsho, Nathan Tella, Terem Moffi, and Chidera Ejuke, But hey this is Nigeria.

Wale,

But how you go see them? How many games have they played for Nigeria and how well did they do? You simply cannot pick a player because he is playing well with his club. The player must compete against other invited Nigerian players so that he can be properly assessed. In a competition like AFCON, Nigeria should not be playing fantasy football but should use those truly tested in GWG and nothing more.

wale1974 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:37 am It would have been nice to see Noah Atubolu, Tyronne Ebuehi, Kevin Akpoguma, Igoh Ogbu, Patrick Dorgu, Alhassan Yusuf, Obinna Nwobodo, Michael Folorunsho, Nathan Tella, Terem Moffi, and Chidera Ejuke, But hey this is Nigeria.

1naija wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:06 am You are just listing names you read of on the internet. I will bet $100 you have not seen 2 games of Obinna Nwobodo this season. I am in Cincinnati often, and they don't even televise FC Cincinnati games on TV in Cincinnati talkless around the country. He is good, but no where near the caliber of players called up. He won't make a dent in the team's performance. Neither will the Alhassan Yusuff I watched the other day. This list has the best players Nigeria has to offer for now.

wale1974 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:37 am It would have been nice to see Noah Atubolu, Tyronne Ebuehi, Kevin Akpoguma, Igoh Ogbu, Patrick Dorgu, Alhassan Yusuf, Obinna Nwobodo, Michael Folorunsho, Nathan Tella, Terem Moffi, and Chidera Ejuke, But hey this is Nigeria.