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Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:15 pm Meanwhile, if this guy was considered the main reason for the stingy Insurance defense in the NPFL in the last couple of years, how come he wasn't even in the preliminary and final CHAN squad that lost to Ghana just over a year ago nor the home-based Eagles that played Costa Rica not long afterwards?

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:22 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:15 pm Meanwhile, if this guy was considered the main reason for the stingy Insurance defense in the NPFL in the last couple of years, how come he wasn't even in the preliminary and final CHAN squad that lost to Ghana just over a year ago nor the home-based Eagles that played Costa Rica not long afterwards?

Lolly

Don't you realize that coaches have their subjective decisions to make. Do you think that if Gernot Rohr was still manager, tgat he would select exactly the same players as Peseiro? Even CE members will not pick same squad. This is why we are all humans , each subjective. We are not machines that are predictable.

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:22 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:15 pm Meanwhile, if this guy was considered the main reason for the stingy Insurance defense in the NPFL in the last couple of years, how come he wasn't even in the preliminary and final CHAN squad that lost to Ghana just over a year ago nor the home-based Eagles that played Costa Rica not long afterwards?

Lolly

Don't you realize that coaches have their subjective decisions to make. Do you think that if Gernot Rohr was still manager, tgat he would select exactly the same players as Peseiro? Even CE members will not pick same squad. This is why we are all humans , each subjective. We are not machines that are predictable.

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:04 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:22 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:15 pm Meanwhile, if this guy was considered the main reason for the stingy Insurance defense in the NPFL in the last couple of years, how come he wasn't even in the preliminary and final CHAN squad that lost to Ghana just over a year ago nor the home-based Eagles that played Costa Rica not long afterwards?

Lolly

Don't you realize that coaches have their subjective decisions to make. Do you think that if Gernot Rohr was still manager, tgat he would select exactly the same players as Peseiro? Even CE members will not pick same squad. This is why we are all humans , each subjective. We are not machines that are predictable.

You dey try.

Those subjective decisions do not cover selecting a player that has not even being mentioned in the CHAN Eagles and Home-based Eagles while being the main reason for Insurance's stingy defence for a couple of years. Let's stop the pretense.

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:15 pm Meanwhile, if this guy was considered the main reason for the stingy Insurance defense in the NPFL in the last couple of years, how come he wasn't even in the preliminary and final CHAN squad that lost to Ghana just over a year ago nor the home-based Eagles that played Costa Rica not long afterwards?

Sunset wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:08 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:15 pm Meanwhile, if this guy was considered the main reason for the stingy Insurance defense in the NPFL in the last couple of years, how come he wasn't even in the preliminary and final CHAN squad that lost to Ghana just over a year ago nor the home-based Eagles that played Costa Rica not long afterwards?

So all of a sudden you guys trust our local coaches to pick the best players?

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:13 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:08 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:15 pm Meanwhile, if this guy was considered the main reason for the stingy Insurance defense in the NPFL in the last couple of years, how come he wasn't even in the preliminary and final CHAN squad that lost to Ghana just over a year ago nor the home-based Eagles that played Costa Rica not long afterwards?

So all of a sudden you guys trust our local coaches to pick the best players?

I don't know but I see a lot of people here clamouring for local coaches. So we shouldn't trust them?

Meanwhile, we still don't know who selected this guy.

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:04 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:22 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:15 pm Meanwhile, if this guy was considered the main reason for the stingy Insurance defense in the NPFL in the last couple of years, how come he wasn't even in the preliminary and final CHAN squad that lost to Ghana just over a year ago nor the home-based Eagles that played Costa Rica not long afterwards?

Lolly

Don't you realize that coaches have their subjective decisions to make. Do you think that if Gernot Rohr was still manager, tgat he would select exactly the same players as Peseiro? Even CE members will not pick same squad. This is why we are all humans , each subjective. We are not machines that are predictable.

You dey try.

Those subjective decisions do not cover selecting a player that has not even being mentioned in the CHAN Eagles and Home-based Eagles while being the main reason for Insurance's stingy defence for a couple of years. Let's stop the pretense.

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:13 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:08 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:15 pm Meanwhile, if this guy was considered the main reason for the stingy Insurance defense in the NPFL in the last couple of years, how come he wasn't even in the preliminary and final CHAN squad that lost to Ghana just over a year ago nor the home-based Eagles that played Costa Rica not long afterwards?

So all of a sudden you guys trust our local coaches to pick the best players?

I don't know but I see a lot of people here clamouring for local coaches. So we shouldn't trust them?

Meanwhile, we still don't know who selected this guy.

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:13 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:08 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:15 pm Meanwhile, if this guy was considered the main reason for the stingy Insurance defense in the NPFL in the last couple of years, how come he wasn't even in the preliminary and final CHAN squad that lost to Ghana just over a year ago nor the home-based Eagles that played Costa Rica not long afterwards?

So all of a sudden you guys trust our local coaches to pick the best players?

I don't know but I see a lot of people here clamouring for local coaches. So we shouldn't trust them?

Meanwhile, we still don't know who selected this guy.

Ugbowo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:05 am This is a very tough thread to comment on.

Full Disclosure - Benjamin was brought to me in Lagos in 2017 from Benin as a young 15-16 yr old kid then to tryout for my academy. He trained with us for awhile but ended up going back to Benin. We were unable to work something out with his folks. I kept an eye on his career since and have been marveled at his rapid rise from the insurance youth ranks to becoming a mainstay in Insurance first team defense the last 2 seasons before his move.

Benjamin has been invited to the National team set up before, albeit U-23. I believe he was part of the ill fated squad that got eliminated from Olympics or CHAN qualifying by Guinea, so he is not new to the National set up. I was very disappointed with his move to Tanzania. This is another move from a somewhat high profile Bendel Insurance player that made no sense (Imade Osearenkhoe and Divine Nwachukwu(unconfirmed) are the other 2). It was rushed. The boy is just maturing, there was absolutely no need to go there.

Do I think he deserves a spot in the SE now because of his move to Tanzania? NO. I think there are many others ahead of him and this skip line thing that he has done is somewhat a shot from the blue; he really does not have friends in high places. Unless some things don happen in recent times that we are not privy to.

Anyway we siddonlook. Let's see what happens in camp.

aruako1 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:36 am

Ugbowo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:05 am This is a very tough thread to comment on.

Full Disclosure - Benjamin was brought to me in Lagos in 2017 from Benin as a young 15-16 yr old kid then to tryout for my academy. He trained with us for awhile but ended up going back to Benin. We were unable to work something out with his folks. I kept an eye on his career since and have been marveled at his rapid rise from the insurance youth ranks to becoming a mainstay in Insurance first team defense the last 2 seasons before his move.

Benjamin has been invited to the National team set up before, albeit U-23. I believe he was part of the ill fated squad that got eliminated from Olympics or CHAN qualifying by Guinea, so he is not new to the National set up. I was very disappointed with his move to Tanzania. This is another move from a somewhat high profile Bendel Insurance player that made no sense (Imade Osearenkhoe and Divine Nwachukwu(unconfirmed) are the other 2). It was rushed. The boy is just maturing, there was absolutely no need to go there.

Do I think he deserves a spot in the SE now because of his move to Tanzania? NO. I think there are many others ahead of him and this skip line thing that he has done is somewhat a shot from the blue; he really does not have friends in high places. Unless some things don happen in recent times that we are not privy to.

Anyway we siddonlook. Let's see what happens in camp.

Thank you, Ugbowo for clarifying. The move to Tanzania was not the best (unless he was going to Simba or Yanga). I respect your position of his suitability for an invitation even if I don't agree with you. The main lesson here is that these young players need guidance.

fabio wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:26 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:13 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:08 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:15 pm Meanwhile, if this guy was considered the main reason for the stingy Insurance defense in the NPFL in the last couple of years, how come he wasn't even in the preliminary and final CHAN squad that lost to Ghana just over a year ago nor the home-based Eagles that played Costa Rica not long afterwards?

So all of a sudden you guys trust our local coaches to pick the best players?

I don't know but I see a lot of people here clamouring for local coaches. So we shouldn't trust them?

Meanwhile, we still don't know who selected this guy.

I think it's rather disrespectful and disgraceful calling Benjamin a Nigerian international, "this guy".

Our fingers are not equal, not all players will ply their trade in European leagues.

Don't understand the hatred towards him.

It's only a friendly match.

Ugbowo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:05 am This is a very tough thread to comment on.

Full Disclosure - Benjamin was brought to me in Lagos in 2017 from Benin as a young 15-16 yr old kid then to tryout for my academy. He trained with us for awhile but ended up going back to Benin. We were unable to work something out with his folks. I kept an eye on his career since and have been marveled at his rapid rise from the insurance youth ranks to becoming a mainstay in Insurance first team defense the last 2 seasons before his move.

Benjamin has been invited to the National team set up before, albeit U-23. I believe he was part of the ill fated squad that got eliminated from Olympics or CHAN qualifying by Guinea, so he is not new to the National set up. I was very disappointed with his move to Tanzania. This is another move from a somewhat high profile Bendel Insurance player that made no sense (Imade Osearenkhoe and Divine Nwachukwu(unconfirmed) are the other 2). It was rushed. The boy is just maturing, there was absolutely no need to go there.

Do I think he deserves a spot in the SE now because of his move to Tanzania? NO. I think there are many others ahead of him and this skip line thing that he has done is somewhat a shot from the blue; he really does not have friends in high places. Unless some things don happen in recent times that we are not privy to.

Anyway we siddonlook. Let's see what happens in camp.

Ugbowo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:05 am This is a very tough thread to comment on.

Full Disclosure - Benjamin was brought to me in Lagos in 2017 from Benin as a young 15-16 yr old kid then to tryout for my academy. He trained with us for awhile but ended up going back to Benin. We were unable to work something out with his folks. I kept an eye on his career since and have been marveled at his rapid rise from the insurance youth ranks to becoming a mainstay in Insurance first team defense the last 2 seasons before his move.

Benjamin has been invited to the National team set up before, albeit U-23. I believe he was part of the ill fated squad that got eliminated from Olympics or CHAN qualifying by Guinea, so he is not new to the National set up. I was very disappointed with his move to Tanzania. This is another move from a somewhat high profile Bendel Insurance player that made no sense (Imade Osearenkhoe and Divine Nwachukwu(unconfirmed) are the other 2). It was rushed. The boy is just maturing, there was absolutely no need to go there.

Do I think he deserves a spot in the SE now because of his move to Tanzania? NO. I think there are many others ahead of him and this skip line thing that he has done is somewhat a shot from the blue; he really does not have friends in high places. Unless some things don happen in recent times that we are not privy to.

Anyway we siddonlook. Let's see what happens in camp.

Ugbowo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:05 am This is a very tough thread to comment on.

Full Disclosure - Benjamin was brought to me in Lagos in 2017 from Benin as a young 15-16 yr old kid then to tryout for my academy. He trained with us for awhile but ended up going back to Benin. We were unable to work something out with his folks. I kept an eye on his career since and have been marveled at his rapid rise from the insurance youth ranks to becoming a mainstay in Insurance first team defense the last 2 seasons before his move.

Benjamin has been invited to the National team set up before, albeit U-23. I believe he was part of the ill fated squad that got eliminated from Olympics or CHAN qualifying by Guinea, so he is not new to the National set up. I was very disappointed with his move to Tanzania. This is another move from a somewhat high profile Bendel Insurance player that made no sense (Imade Osearenkhoe and Divine Nwachukwu(unconfirmed) are the other 2). It was rushed. The boy is just maturing, there was absolutely no need to go there.

Do I think he deserves a spot in the SE now because of his move to Tanzania? NO. I think there are many others ahead of him and this skip line thing that he has done is somewhat a shot from the blue; he really does not have friends in high places. Unless some things don happen in recent times that we are not privy to.

Anyway we siddonlook. Let's see what happens in camp.

txj wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:30 pm

Ugbowo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:05 am This is a very tough thread to comment on.

Full Disclosure - Benjamin was brought to me in Lagos in 2017 from Benin as a young 15-16 yr old kid then to tryout for my academy. He trained with us for awhile but ended up going back to Benin. We were unable to work something out with his folks. I kept an eye on his career since and have been marveled at his rapid rise from the insurance youth ranks to becoming a mainstay in Insurance first team defense the last 2 seasons before his move.

Benjamin has been invited to the National team set up before, albeit U-23. I believe he was part of the ill fated squad that got eliminated from Olympics or CHAN qualifying by Guinea, so he is not new to the National set up. I was very disappointed with his move to Tanzania. This is another move from a somewhat high profile Bendel Insurance player that made no sense (Imade Osearenkhoe and Divine Nwachukwu(unconfirmed) are the other 2). It was rushed. The boy is just maturing, there was absolutely no need to go there.

Do I think he deserves a spot in the SE now because of his move to Tanzania? NO. I think there are many others ahead of him and this skip line thing that he has done is somewhat a shot from the blue; he really does not have friends in high places. Unless some things don happen in recent times that we are not privy to.

Anyway we siddonlook. Let's see what happens in camp.

While you may not say it, understandably, I CAN and I WILL!!

Agency representation is behind the call up...

That is what is the MAJOR REASON behind MOST invitations of HB players in the SE, U17 and U20/23 teams....and CHAN/Home-based Eagles.