NIGERIA 0 V 1 GERMANY GAME THREAD

[marutimon]

Guys,

Take the chill pill. Yea, Iheanacho did not play. Big deal! The Germans were much better and 2000 Iheanacho's would not make a difference. Was he not in the Brazil game (a comparatively weaker team compared to Germany) and what was the outcome? Let's quit this idea that simply selecting players on individual rather than team basis will win us games. WE lost, so what? Do we always have the best team? In this competition, we clearly did not. Not just Germany but a couple of other teams appeared better than us.

First off - the Brasil game was a problem of imbalance. Not enough midfielders, an overloaded attack. And at least vs Brasil it was a game we could have won on any other given day.

Secondly - they was no creativity in the final third. How could there be if all the creative players were on the bench?

Thirdly - for example Akpoguma was visibly tired. Instead of bringing in Moses Simon and targeting him we let him off easy. Those are the examples of mistakes made.

We will never know how our best team would cope with these Germans simply because we didn't play our best XI at any point of this competition.

Just own up to it: You guys were wrong, we were right. Claiming German superiority can only work if we didn't have superior players on the bench (Nwakali or even Matthew in midfield also applies).

[metalalloy]

That Germany Nigerian - Akpoguma - has not been that impressive.

there really should be a football iq test developed specifically for this site

[marko]

That was a game when the coach should have gone for broke and brought in the game changers on the bench, at least in the 80th minute when the Germans were tiring out was the best time, what did he do, brought in a defensive midfielder, ohh m days, talk about the illiteracy of Nigerian coaches

[Cellular]

its a miracle how this game ended only 1-0

Can't make sense of the subs

Head scratcher... trying to figure out what he was trying to do.

You miraculously survive the first half onslaught... had multiple options available on the bench for you to at least make this a game... and NOTHING!

You leave the tourney having not forced a single save from the opposing keeper...

With a bench of capable players.

I just wish there was a way to read the coach's report assuming they are made to write a technical report of the game.

[papilo]

I know many people do not want to hear this but if we had given the German coach this Nigerian squad, he would probably win this tournament.

[Catalyst]

Manu got confused after the Brazl lose and never recovered.

Could it be before the game?

Anyway I somewhat agree - we did not recover after the Brazil game. The NK and HGY games just saved our blushes.

Weird game to watch. The scoreline is a generous one. Enaholo made it look like a close game.

[metalalloy]

May I remind you people we can replay this match?

Yup on FiFA 16. Im sure all the boys will be listed on there by next year

[hestonap]

No surprises here.

The weaknesses were apparent during the AYC - from the silly and typical Nigerian penchant for turning over the ball and lack of intelligence in off the ball movement and positioning, to the rather dodgy defence and the good old police ball....these were apparent....we got away with it because we faced inferior opposition that could and would not capitalise on this.

I remember saying this that we would be found out if we did not fix what were glaring deficiencies while some were getting carried away with names.

This was a typically i am sorry to say un-intelligent Nigerian performance.

Thanks Manu - over to the NFF, send him on a training or attachment or something, send him back to the U-17s or whatever, get him to file in a technical report.

By the way a major condition before offering any coach a contract is ensuring that they file in a technical report of how their teams fared and what were their areas of shortcomings after every major competition or qualifying series....failure to do that should result in them never getting offered a contract again in the future.
These guys have to show that they learn and are learning on the job otherwise they should never be offered contracts.

Anyway back to the Womens WC, lets hope they fix their obvious deficiencies otherwise their performance against Sweden will be the highlight of their tourney.

Good luck to the girls.

[nim]

...Success is evidence that none...absolutely none would have done better from the bench...pls accept the defeat and refrain from name calling...the boys tried their best period.

The boys played CRAP!!!! End of story!


How can you call yourself "an attacking team" and yet you couldn't even trouble the goalkeeper with a shot on target from open play??!!

Asin how?

It was a very annoying game to say the least!

[Tbite]

No surprises here.

The weaknesses were apparent during the AYC - from the silly and typical Nigerian penchant for turning over the ball and lack of intelligence in off the ball movement and positioning, to the rather dodgy defence and the good old police ball....these were apparent....we got away with it because we faced inferior opposition that could and would not capitalise on this.

I remember saying this that we would be found out if we did not fix what were glaring deficiencies while some were getting carried away with names.

This was a typically i am sorry to say un-intelligent Nigerian performance.

Thanks Manu - over to the NFF, send him on a training or attachment or something, send him back to the U-17s or whatever, get him to file in a technical report.

By the way a major condition before offering any coach a contract is ensuring that they file in a technical report of how their teams fared and what were their areas of shortcomings after every major competition or qualifying series....failure to do that should result in them never getting offered a contract again in the future.
These guys have to show that they learn and are learning on the job otherwise they should never be offered contracts.

Anyway back to the Womens WC, lets hope they fix their obvious deficiencies otherwise their performance against Sweden will be the highlight of their tourney.

Good luck to the girls.

[marutimon]

We just weren't good enough. We lost to a better prepared and better coached team with better players technically and tactically.

The key is to learn from this going forward especially for the olympics, not just b|tch and whine emotionally.

We had better players. They were sipping tea on the sidelines.

This is the main problem with Nigerians. False sense of entitlement. We do not have better players. Technically all the German players were better. Dribbling and passing doesn't make a great player.

Dribbling, passing, positioning, intelligence, holding on to the ball, unconventional thinking, finishing - the guys on the bench all had that. That makes a great player!

The one thing the benchplayers had which the on-field players lacked was FOOTBALL INTELLIGENCE!!! They create chances by knowing where and when to run, when and where to pass. Much like the Germans did.

You're trying to defend the indefensible.

Manu Garba had a great U17 team and instead of building on them he selfdestructed his success.

[Catalyst]

I took a day off for this. Na wa.

[pajimoh]

May I remind you people we can replay this match?

Yup on FiFA 16. Im sure all the boys will be listed on there by next year

now the so called "fat one" that keeps praising God will feel the tongue lashing of naija useless fans

[vancity eagle]

The Keshi Ideology continues to fail and fail again!

I keep warning people they do not listen.

Keshiology is a false religion! Stop practising it! Manu Garba fell for it and see what happened.

Ke$hi ideology, a religion of dummies.

How many times do dumb people do the same thing over and over and continue to fail, yet attempt it again.

LOL

[Odas]

Manu Garbage.

I hope he has not ruined these players. I wish them all the best and hopefully they can put the experience behind them.

As for Awoniyi....that guy is a retard.

...it takes one to know one...

The guy had his team mate free..instead of squaring him...he was desperate to benefit his personal greedy career objectives.

Nigerians too often are only interested in their individual goals. Put your country first sometimes! Is that so hard?

Put your country first!

KPAM! The awoniyi guy should have passed the ball to his teammate on his left-hand and perhaps, just perhaps, we would have equalized

[Cellular]

The Germans were better but still can't wrap my head around three things.

The unforced turnovers (errors)?
The hoofing the ball forward against taller agile defenders...they tried that same $%^& against Brazil?
The substitution pattern and not using all your subs?

At least put up a fight...

Anybody who references the scoreline as evidence that it was close or a good game is a nutter or did not watch the game.

[metalalloy]

No surprises here.

The weaknesses were apparent during the AYC - from the silly and typical Nigerian penchant for turning over the ball and lack of intelligence in off the ball movement and positioning, to the rather dodgy defence and the good old police ball....these were apparent....we got away with it because we faced inferior opposition that could and would not capitalise on this.

I remember saying this that we would be found out if we did not fix what were glaring deficiencies while some were getting carried away with names.

This was a typically i am sorry to say un-intelligent Nigerian performance.

Thanks Manu - over to the NFF, send him on a training or attachment or something, send him back to the U-17s or whatever, get him to file in a technical report.

By the way a major condition before offering any coach a contract is ensuring that they file in a technical report of how their teams fared and what were their areas of shortcomings after every major competition or qualifying series....failure to do that should result in them never getting offered a contract again in the future.
These guys have to show that they learn and are learning on the job otherwise they should never be offered contracts.

Anyway back to the Womens WC, lets hope they fix their obvious deficiencies otherwise their performance against Sweden will be the highlight of their tourney.

Good luck to the girls.

Along with a review by an external body.

[Odas]

May I remind you people we can replay this match?

Yup on FiFA 16. Im sure all the boys will be listed on there by next year

now the so called "fat one" that keeps praising God will feel the tongue lashing of naija useless fans

He better not do that again

[green4life]

We just weren't good enough. We lost to a better prepared and better coached team with better players technically and tactically.

The key is to learn from this going forward especially for the olympics, not just b|tch and whine emotionally.

We will not learn from this....

You can take that to the bank sadly. The setup in Nigeria isn't organized and professional enough to turn negatives into positives going forward with consistency.

[hestonap]

That was a game when the coach should have gone for broke and brought in the game changers on the bench, at least in the 80th minute when the Germans were tiring out was the best time, what did he do, brought in a defensive midfielder, ohh m days, talk about the illiteracy of Nigerian coaches

Marko - do you want to summarise the stereotypical Nigerian performance again...summarised by always doing the same thing and expecting to get a different result even when its not clearly working...

- do the long pass..even it does not work....atempt to kick it higher and further and hope for the best

- remember to always lose the ball to the opponent on a regular and consistent basis

- take your time to settle into a game, afterall the first 10 to 15 minutes are not really part of the game...its only for warming up

- throw-ins are an opportunity to pass the ball to your opponent.

- keep trying to thread that 0.5um of a pass when the simpler option will do

- it's not chess so why concentrate....

- our old favourite of defending against set pieces is a complete waste of time...lets just get on with the playing

- oh every free kick or set piece opportunity we have is more likely a chance to reduce the population of beds or to try to injure the opponent by taking out his balls or damaging his chest...the opponents wall is the target..not that space between the wall and the net

- expect the unexpected...even when it is obvious that what you are hoping to happen on the day has really never happened before

[marutimon]

...Success is evidence that none...absolutely none would have done better from the bench...pls accept the defeat and refrain from name calling...the boys tried their best period.

Success created some danger in the opposing penalty area. Problem is he had little support and was out of position.

Besides the problem was link up between midfield and attack. Success is a striker. The game needed Yahaya, Iheanach and/or Simon.

[marko]

No surprises here.

The weaknesses were apparent during the AYC - from the silly and typical Nigerian penchant for turning over the ball and lack of intelligence in off the ball movement and positioning, to the rather dodgy defence and the good old police ball....these were apparent....we got away with it because we faced inferior opposition that could and would not capitalise on this.

I remember saying this that we would be found out if we did not fix what were glaring deficiencies while some were getting carried away with names.

This was a typically i am sorry to say un-intelligent Nigerian performance.

Thanks Manu - over to the NFF, send him on a training or attachment or something, send him back to the U-17s or whatever, get him to file in a technical report.

By the way a major condition before offering any coach a contract is ensuring that they file in a technical report of how their teams fared and what were their areas of shortcomings after every major competition or qualifying series....failure to do that should result in them never getting offered a contract again in the future.
These guys have to show that they learn and are learning on the job otherwise they should never be offered contracts.

Anyway back to the Womens WC, lets hope they fix their obvious deficiencies otherwise their performance against Sweden will be the highlight of their tourney.

Good luck to the girls.

sorry to be a kill joy, i will not be so sure the women can do any better than the men, the problem is an inherent Nigerian problem, the organization is a sham, the coaches are a sham, the footballing structure is a huge sham, even the players despite the raw talent are a huge scam, they lack basic footballing intelligence, they were making mistakes after mistakes thinking a lucky break could come from doing just so, look at Musa set play for example, he screwed up every time yet others could not step in because Nigeria simply does not have players that learn this basic footballing concept, even Musa does not practice his set plays, if he did, you will simply see the results today, i already gave a 10 pointer and i stand by it, over reliance of raw talent, The Germans did what they needed to do and saw off every Nigerian challenge

[skillful]

No matter what we put out the german were going to win. They were simply better.