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Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:58 pm
by yaya
I was getting worried. i mean, we are in the last 8 and there had been no news of arguments or fights within the dutch camp. Alas, today, the news that the arrogant Arsenal man, Van Persie, tongue lashed the coach. now we can all accept that a tournament is going on, and the dutch are present! :thumbs:

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Van Marwijk calls team meeting over Van Persie
By MIKE CORDER (AP) – 4 hours ago

DURBAN, South Africa — Netherlands coach Bert van Marwijk has demanded unity among his World Cup players after Robin van Persie's angry outburst.

Van Persie's irate reaction at being substituted in the 2-1 win over Slovakia threatened to derail preparations for the quarterfinal against Brazil.

Van Marwijk said Tuesday he called a team meeting after reports in Dutch media that the striker said midfielder Wesley Sneijder should have been brought off instead of him.

"I will never accept anything that could upset the next match," Van Marwijk told Dutch national broadcaster NOS.

"I spoke to Robin and he is supposed to have said something about Wesley. I've spoken to Wesley and after that I called the team together ... told them what I think and then drew a line under it."

He did not elaborate, but his swift action was clearly intended to preserve unity in the buildup to Friday's quarterfinal in Port Elizabeth.

Previous Dutch campaigns have been rocked by infighting, but the team had appeared unified in South Africa.

Van Marwijk insists he nipped the latest dispute in the bud.

"I've always said I don't mind if something happens — that can make you stronger — but I don't like to leave problems dangling," he said. "It's over. For everybody."

Van Persie and Sneijder did not speak to the media Tuesday, but Van Persie denied Monday having said Sneijder should have been replaced instead of him.

Van Marwijk said he did not hear what Van Persie said to him after the substitution because of the din of vuvuzelas in Durban's sold-out Moses Mabhida Stadium. Sneijder did not speak to reporters after the Slovakia match.

Van Persie and Sneijder have a history of tense relations dating back to a public spat over who should have taken a free kick in the 2008 European Championship quarterfinal loss to Russia.

Van Persie was clearly angry at being substituted Monday, believing chances were about to come his way.

"I wanted to finish the game. I thought they would take risks in the last 10 minutes and I wanted to exploit that," Van Persie said after the game. "I could see spaces opening up and I wanted to use them, so I was a bit shocked when I had to go off."

Immediately after the match, Van Marwijk played down any dispute with his starting striker, who has scored 19 goals in 48 internationals.

"I shook his hand and understood that he was disappointed; that's not a bad thing," Van Marwijk said Monday. "Everyone wants to play the whole game."

The most famous case of Dutch disunity was at the 1996 European Championship, when coach Guus Hiddink sent midfielder Edgar Davids home early for insulting him in an interview. That talented squad reportedly also was divided between black and white players.

Van Marwijk's predecessor, Marco van Basten, also fell out with Davids, Mark van Bommel and Clarence Seedorf and famously criticized Ruud van Nistelrooy during the 2006 World Cup

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Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:32 pm
by txj
Rumour is those fools at the Liverpool Board are looking at Van Marwjick...

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:46 pm
by yaya
txj wrote:Rumour is those fools at the Liverpool Board are looking at Van Marwjick...
Van Marwjick is an interesting coach. His teams tend to play balanced football - not overly tiki taka irresponsibility, and not overly defensive. This kind of football brings results and trophies.

This incident is not his fault. Some players have no home training. He did the right thing, I think, by ignoring Van persie (pretending like he did not hear him) and then after the game call both players aside, separately to handle the matter.

I have to admit tho, I dont know Van Marwjick very well. What is it you have agains his rumored hire?

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:20 am
by Prince
Yaya my boy said he did not try to disrupt any camp and that he is a good guy

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Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:51 am
by yaya
Prince wrote:Yaya my boy said he did not try to disrupt any camp and that he is a good guy

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the woman behind you seems to disagree. :taunt: :taunt: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:01 am
by yaya
Anyways, Txj, looks like ur new boss is Hodgson? and not the dutch.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... th-us.html

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:57 am
by green4life
txj wrote:Rumour is those fools at the Liverpool Board are looking at Van Marwjick...
abeg revisit your sauces b/c all indicators point towards the fulham manager (hodgson)

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:14 am
by Chimurenga Rebel
Prince wrote:Yaya my boy said he did not try to disrupt any camp and that he is a good guy

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Prince how did you pull this one of?

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:00 am
by goke313
oyinbo....type a personality....a player that wants to take it upon himself to do whatever it is for his team to win...spirit..heart..hunger....etc
african.....disrespectful....area bwoy....un trained...beyonce na beyonce....etc

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:02 am
by k24opout
Gudo wrote:
Prince wrote:Yaya my boy said he did not try to disrupt any camp and that he is a good guy

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Prince how did you pull this one of?
Now that is impressive, Davids was a bulldog in the midfield :thumb:

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:45 am
by Cristao II
I thot it was said by a CE forumer that it was the black guys who contributed to the infighting!!

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:53 am
by kalani
Didn't Marwijk more or less sack RVP from the 010 in 2005?

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:08 am
by Ipe Grams
Prince wrote:Yaya my boy said he did not try to disrupt any camp and that he is a good guy

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Was it love at first sight? :taunt:

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:28 am
by Prince
Ipe grams you dey craze..i get loads of pictures na becos of people like you na why I no post dem.. :lol: :lol: :lol: Dem go yab colour of shirt

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:38 am
by osa
are there any black people to blame it on ?

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:39 am
by ANC
Thats one guy I'd love to meet. Davids!!!

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:27 pm
by cchinukw
@ Yaya - Holland players have always been ouspoken. It has nothing to do with poor home training. Van Persie's parents are University educated middle class professionals. It is simpy the Dutch way to speak your mind. Nothing new here.

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:06 pm
by Ipe Grams
ANC wrote:Thats one guy I'd love to meet. Davids!!!
Clarence Seedorf made the analysis on bbc interesting than those clowns like Shearer, Gareth Southgate,Townsend etc.

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:07 pm
by Ipe Grams
Prince wrote:Ipe grams you dey craze..i get loads of pictures na becos of people like you na why I no post dem.. :lol: :lol: :lol: Dem go yab colour of shirt
You should have worn that your pink blouse. :taunt:

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:09 pm
by yaya
cchinukw wrote:@ Yaya - Holland players have always been ouspoken. It has nothing to do with poor home training. Van Persie's parents are University educated middle class professionals. It is simpy the Dutch way to speak your mind. Nothing new here.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: please dont make me laugh...so only kids who have uneducated parents can have poor upbringing?

Re: Ah! return of nomalcy - Infighting within Dutch camp!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:10 pm
by Prince
Ipe Grams wrote:
Prince wrote:Ipe grams you dey craze..i get loads of pictures na becos of people like you na why I no post dem.. :lol: :lol: :lol: Dem go yab colour of shirt
You should have worn that your pink blouse. :taunt:
Na 1naija wear stained pink blouse oooooooooo