Ball in the Corner- Someone Explain this...

[Schillachi]

Can someone please explain the following to me: The game is almost over and a player takes the ball to the corner and keeps it at the corner to waste time. Oftentimes you see two opposing players behind the player wasting time trying to retrieve the ball. What is stopping one of the opposing players from actually going outside of the field to the side where the ball is being shielded to kick the ball out? Is it illegal to assess the ball when you are outside out of the pitch and the ball is one the pitch?

[Bombastic]

Astute observation. I agree you can go outside the field. Didn't Gareth Bale run off the pitch to keep the ball in play during his super solo goal against Barca?

[Catalyst]

Can someone please explain the following to me: The game is almost over and a player takes the ball to the corner and keeps it at the corner to waste time. Oftentimes you see two opposing players behind the player wasting time trying to retrieve the ball. What is stopping one of the opposing players from actually going outside of the field to the side where the ball is being shielded to kick the ball out? Is it illegal to assess the ball when you are outside out of the pitch and the ball is one the pitch?

It is not illegal.

Why do more people not do it [more often]? Going outside of the field to nick the ball from a different angle will not necessarily give you an advantage. The shielder will just have to adjust his/her axial vector as well as tensor in order to keep his/her body perpendicular to the ball, and if possible the flag.

Now if you introduce a 3rd variable, i.e. another player, then the outside of the pitch approach will be more effective.

Anyway, the shielder's main goal is to steal seconds from the clock activities in that corner to the time it takes you to get the ball from that corner or kickoff to his/her half of the field. It is also helps to control momentum, which can be quantitatively measured.

[Schillachi]

Can someone please explain the following to me: The game is almost over and a player takes the ball to the corner and keeps it at the corner to waste time. Oftentimes you see two opposing players behind the player wasting time trying to retrieve the ball. What is stopping one of the opposing players from actually going outside of the field to the side where the ball is being shielded to kick the ball out? Is it illegal to assess the ball when you are outside out of the pitch and the ball is one the pitch?

It is not illegal.

Why do more people not do it [more often]? Going outside of the field to nick the ball from a different angle will not necessarily give you an advantage. The shielder will just have to adjust his/her axial vector as well as tensor in order to keep his/her body perpendicular to the ball, and if possible the flag.

Now if you introduce a 3rd variable, i.e. another player, then the outside of the pitch approach will be more effective.

Anyway, the shielder's main goal is to steal seconds from the clock activities in that corner to the time it takes you to get the ball from that corner or kickoff to his/her half of the field. It is also helps to control momentum, which can be quantitatively measured.

I introduced another variable... That's why I said two opposing players... Unless you are suggesting 3 opposing players are needed?

[Catalyst]

Can someone please explain the following to me: The game is almost over and a player takes the ball to the corner and keeps it at the corner to waste time. Oftentimes you see two opposing players behind the player wasting time trying to retrieve the ball. What is stopping one of the opposing players from actually going outside of the field to the side where the ball is being shielded to kick the ball out? Is it illegal to assess the ball when you are outside out of the pitch and the ball is one the pitch?

It is not illegal.

Why do more people not do it [more often]? Going outside of the field to nick the ball from a different angle will not necessarily give you an advantage. The shielder will just have to adjust his/her axial vector as well as tensor in order to keep his/her body perpendicular to the ball, and if possible the flag.

Now if you introduce a 3rd variable, i.e. another player, then the outside of the pitch approach will be more effective.

Anyway, the shielder's main goal is to steal seconds from the clock activities in that corner to the time it takes you to get the ball from that corner or kickoff to his/her half of the field. It is also helps to control momentum, which can be quantitatively measured.

I introduced another variable... That's why I said two opposing players... Unless you are suggesting 3 opposing players are needed?

Yes 3 players will give the significant advantage, in my view.

Changing the angle of attack with the same number of variables or in this case, constants, will not necessarily yield a more favorable result.

[bonecrusher]

Can someone please explain the following to me: The game is almost over and a player takes the ball to the corner and keeps it at the corner to waste time. Oftentimes you see two opposing players behind the player wasting time trying to retrieve the ball. What is stopping one of the opposing players from actually going outside of the field to the side where the ball is being shielded to kick the ball out? Is it illegal to assess the ball when you are outside out of the pitch and the ball is one the pitch?

It is not illegal.

Why do more people not do it [more often]? Going outside of the field to nick the ball from a different angle will not necessarily give you an advantage. The shielder will just have to adjust his/her axial vector as well as tensor in order to keep his/her body perpendicular to the ball, and if possible the flag.

Now if you introduce a 3rd variable, i.e. another player, then the outside of the pitch approach will be more effective.

Anyway, the shielder's main goal is to steal seconds from the clock activities in that corner to the time it takes you to get the ball from that corner or kickoff to his/her half of the field. It is also helps to control momentum, which can be quantitatively measured.

2 can work sir. If both oppositions are standing 180 degrees or across from each other it will be super difficult for the player with the ball to shield both of them out.

What happens is both opposing players are adjacent to each other giving the player with the ball a better chance of shielding them off.

Now to answer Schilachi's question, IMO things happen too fast in the field and sometimes simple things like that dont come to mind quickly enough. Secondly, if one player runs around to nick the ball from outside the field, a smart striker can exploit the space he just created potentially leading to a goal scoring chance.

[Catalyst]

bonecrusher,

If they stand at 180 degrees angle, with one player standing outside of the field of play, the shielder will then:

1) put the ball between both legs, and if possible use the corner flag to his/her advantage.

or

2) The Shielder completely isolates the player outside of the field by taking him out of position and then have to deal one-v-one against the player on the field. This can be done by back the player off the field, then attempting to pin the ball to prevent the one of the field from taking it away easily.

Remember the goal is to buy mere seconds in this part of the field. If he is able get a corner kick or throw-in from that, even better.

[Cellular]

IF you have played Ball-U you will know how to get this done.

[ANC]

IF you have played Ball-U you will know how to get this done.

I suppose u are referring to the original poster? Lol. Them again perhaps he is an old man like me who hasn't played in a while.

[Catalyst]

IF you have played Ball-U you will know how to get this done.

I suppose u are referring to the original poster? Lol. Them again perhaps he is an old man like me who hasn't played in a while.

Rules change all the time - not everyone can keep up.

Some people still do not know that there is no offside-side during throw-in. Some people do not know you can score from corner kicks directly, without the ball touching anyone. Some people do not know you can score from goal kick directly, end-2-end. And some of these people have been playing the game from time immemorial.

[Chief Ogbunigwe]

IF you have played Ball-U you will know how to get this done.

I suppose u are referring to the original poster? Lol. Them again perhaps he is an old man like me who hasn't played in a while.

Rules change all the time - not everyone can keep up.

Some people still do not know that there is no offside-side during throw-in. Some people do not know you can score from corner kicks directly, without the ball touching anyone. Some people do not know you can score from goal kick directly, end-2-end. And some of these people have been playing the game from time immemorial.

tiri kona kiks ekwals to penarity?

[Kabalega]

Can someone please explain the following to me: The game is almost over and a player takes the ball to the corner and keeps it at the corner to waste time. Oftentimes you see two opposing players behind the player wasting time trying to retrieve the ball. What is stopping one of the opposing players from actually going outside of the field to the side where the ball is being shielded to kick the ball out? Is it illegal to assess the ball when you are outside out of the pitch and the ball is one the pitch?

There are 2 main things to consider. The idea is to regain possession as soon as possible while the opponent's is to keep possession for as long as possible.

1. Taking the ball out does not give you possession. The opponents still have possession and will even take their sweet time getting the ball back into play. When they do, you still will not have possession.

2. The opponent does not want to take the ball out themselves, because that will give you possession.

With that in mind, everything else is situational.
Crafty opponents like the Italians will likely spew nonsense to bait you into hitting them and the ball off the field.

I saw two teams give away possession while ahead (US was one of them, until Dempsey got it) instead of burning minutes.

[maceo4]

IF you have played Ball-U you will know how to get this done.

I suppose u are referring to the original poster? Lol. Them again perhaps he is an old man like me who hasn't played in a while.

Rules change all the time - not everyone can keep up.

Some people still do not know that there is no offside-side during throw-in. Some people do not know you can score from corner kicks directly, without the ball touching anyone. Some people do not know you can score from goal kick directly, end-2-end. And some of these people have been playing the game from time immemorial.

tiri kona kiks ekwals to penarity?

I think they changed that rule after 2006 WC...sad cuz we coulda really used it against Iran

[Schillachi]

Can someone please explain the following to me: The game is almost over and a player takes the ball to the corner and keeps it at the corner to waste time. Oftentimes you see two opposing players behind the player wasting time trying to retrieve the ball. What is stopping one of the opposing players from actually going outside of the field to the side where the ball is being shielded to kick the ball out? Is it illegal to assess the ball when you are outside out of the pitch and the ball is one the pitch?

There are 2 main things to consider. The idea is to regain possession as soon as possible while the opponent's is to keep possession for as long as possible.

1. Taking the ball out does not give you possession. The opponents still have possession and will even take their sweet time getting the ball back into play. When they do, you still will not have possession.

2. The opponent does not want to take the ball out themselves, because that will give you possession.

With that in mind, everything else is situational.
Crafty opponents like the Italians will likely spew nonsense to bait you into hitting them and the ball off the field.

I saw two teams give away possession while ahead (US was one of them, until Dempsey got it) instead of burning minutes.

I didn't mean to kick the ball out of play. I meant one if the opposing players should step outside the field such that he is standing 180 degrees from his teammate and kick the ball out of under the leg or possession of the player wasting time

[Kabalega]

Can someone please explain the following to me: The game is almost over and a player takes the ball to the corner and keeps it at the corner to waste time. Oftentimes you see two opposing players behind the player wasting time trying to retrieve the ball. What is stopping one of the opposing players from actually going outside of the field to the side where the ball is being shielded to kick the ball out? Is it illegal to assess the ball when you are outside out of the pitch and the ball is one the pitch?

There are 2 main things to consider. The idea is to regain possession as soon as possible while the opponent's is to keep possession for as long as possible.

1. Taking the ball out does not give you possession. The opponents still have possession and will even take their sweet time getting the ball back into play. When they do, you still will not have possession.

2. The opponent does not want to take the ball out themselves, because that will give you possession.

With that in mind, everything else is situational.
Crafty opponents like the Italians will likely spew nonsense to bait you into hitting them and the ball off the field.

I saw two teams give away possession while ahead (US was one of them, until Dempsey got it) instead of burning minutes.

I didn't mean to kick the ball out of play. I meant one if the opposing players should step outside the field such that he is standing 180 degrees from his teammate and kick the ball out of under the leg or possession of the player wasting time

The "to kick the ball out" lost me ....

Sure players can step out but if they do so then the time waster will have space to get out of a tight corner and waste more time. If you kick the ball out carelessly, the ball could fall to another opponent.

It is better to limit their space and steal the ball or bounce it off them for a goal kick or thrown-in. If you can do this from outside, so be it.

[nanijoe]

If you go outside the pitch to try and get the ball, the said player can now stroll into your penalty area and try to score a goal..
Like someone else said, going outside the pitch to try and get the ball would probably need 3 defenders to work, but imagine what would happen if the attacker suddenly wriggles free of the corner with possession of the ball.

Can someone please explain the following to me: The game is almost over and a player takes the ball to the corner and keeps it at the corner to waste time. Oftentimes you see two opposing players behind the player wasting time trying to retrieve the ball. What is stopping one of the opposing players from actually going outside of the field to the side where the ball is being shielded to kick the ball out? Is it illegal to assess the ball when you are outside out of the pitch and the ball is one the pitch?

[oloye]

Just be careful as you go around the player...because a clever player can simply turn inward and beat the one remaining. Two out of the picture means two players free.