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[platinum]

Vidal is not going to fix MAN UTD's problems. Leave the guy along abeg...

Why una let conte leave?

[juventuss]

Vidal is not going to fix MAN UTD's problems. Leave the guy along abeg...

Why una let conte leave?

Because of damn Vidal
He will come back

[cic old boy]

[tfco]

any average coach can win cup competitions once in a while. Winning league titles is where the real challenge is. The two ECL that thief won had more to do with luck. How Bayern didnt win in 99, and why Terry had to slip can only be attributed to some very potent Scottish witchcraft

welcome back papak

[George Bush]

Manure gbegbedi, gbegbedidi manure! Manure gbegbedi, Egbedidodo.....
Manure gbegbedi, gbegbedidi manure! Manure gbegbedi, Egbedidodo.....
Manure gbegbedi, gbegbedidi manure! Manure gbegbedi, Egbedidodo.....
Manure gbegbedi, gbegbedidi manure! Manure gbegbedi, Egbedidodo.....

[Chief Ogbunigwe]

It is going to end in tears with LVG if care is not taken, I can only hope his temperament would hold. How was sir Fergie doing it?

When some of us were telling this board that SAF was from another planet, we were told he wasn't a good coach but a good motivator. It is visible to the blind that the players Man U currently have are very average. SAF made that team look good because of his brain. SAF was the Zen master in EPL.

Watch him come back and put things in order!!

Especially the last few years, Manure had a very average team. I felt they won for 4 reasons

1. Ferguson could get players to play out of their skin. He was a supreme motivator.
2. ManU had a fear factor which beats most teams before stepping on pitch
3. Refs. Those guys gave ManU at least 9 undeserved pts a season due to fear of Ferguson
4. His minnow coaches that he planted at teams like Wigan etc that were good for 4-0 ManU win every season but played out their skin against everyone else.

Forget 3 and 4. It's exaggerated. We all saw how they demolished teams like Arsenal and Roma with 7 and 8 goals with no referee's assistance. They also won Euro champs league posting solid performance against the very best in the world under Ferguson. When a team plays all out fast-paced attacking football they will always spend more time in the opponents danger zone and hence more pressure on defenders and possibility of more penalties. Man United under Ferguson were a different beast, almost untouchable on their day. It is what it is, the current bunch is the exact opposite at least for now.

jokes apart though, 3 is really not a lie, maybe it's exaggerated but it's not totally unfounded. Even point #4 might have a tiny shade of truth to it.

I am willing to give Ferguson his due. The guy was a heckuva manager Period. The most impressive thing for me is that every dominant team he had, usually had 3 or 4 guys that were near shite but were playing regularly and somehow performing for ManU. Guys like quinton fortune, nicky butt, one of the neville brothers, Sylvester, and recently the likes of Johny Evans, danny welbeck. Some of those guys will barely make the grade at a mid-table team but somehow Ferguson kept winning with them. Respect.

#4 is VERY CORRECT All those SAF former boys lead their teams to dash Manure points every season. Manure could easily win the league without doing particularly well vs other top 4 teams. They would just mercilessly destroy all small teams, get PKs here and there, get extra minutes at Old Toilet. Any ref that crosses them gets insulted by Fergie and Rooney with no repercussions.

[Kargamania]

It is going to end in tears with LVG if care is not taken, I can only hope his temperament would hold. How was sir Fergie doing it?

When some of us were telling this board that SAF was from another planet, we were told he wasn't a good coach but a good motivator. It is visible to the blind that the players Man U currently have are very average. SAF made that team look good because of his brain. SAF was the Zen master in EPL.

Watch him come back and put things in order!!

Especially the last few years, Manure had a very average team. I felt they won for 4 reasons

1. Ferguson could get players to play out of their skin. He was a supreme motivator.
2. ManU had a fear factor which beats most teams before stepping on pitch
3. Refs. Those guys gave ManU at least 9 undeserved pts a season due to fear of Ferguson
4. His minnow coaches that he planted at teams like Wigan etc that were good for 4-0 ManU win every season but played out their skin against everyone else.

Forget 3 and 4. It's exaggerated. We all saw how they demolished teams like Arsenal and Roma with 7 and 8 goals with no referee's assistance. They also won Euro champs league posting solid performance against the very best in the world under Ferguson. When a team plays all out fast-paced attacking football they will always spend more time in the opponents danger zone and hence more pressure on defenders and possibility of more penalties. Man United under Ferguson were a different beast, almost untouchable on their day. It is what it is, the current bunch is the exact opposite at least for now.

jokes apart though, 3 is really not a lie, maybe it's exaggerated but it's not totally unfounded. Even point #4 might have a tiny shade of truth to it.

I am willing to give Ferguson his due. The guy was a heckuva manager Period. The most impressive thing for me is that every dominant team he had, usually had 3 or 4 guys that were near shite but were playing regularly and somehow performing for ManU. Guys like quinton fortune, nicky butt, one of the neville brothers, Sylvester, and recently the likes of Johny Evans, danny welbeck. Some of those guys will barely make the grade at a mid-table team but somehow Ferguson kept winning with them. Respect.

#4 is VERY CORRECT All those SAF former boys lead their teams to dash Manure points every season. Manure could easily win the league without doing particularly well vs other top 4 teams. They would just mercilessly destroy all small teams, get PKs here and there, get extra minutes at Old Toilet. Any ref that crosses them gets insulted by Fergie and Rooney with no repercussions.

None of them got walloped 8-2.

[Cristao II]

1. Ferguson could get players to play out of their skin. He was a supreme motivator.

True. Solid Man manager

2. ManU had a fear factor which beats most teams before stepping on pitch

Built up due to many years of success and good marketing.

3. Refs. Those guys gave ManU at least 9 undeserved pts a season due to fear of Ferguson

Fergie liked questioning every suspicious call that went against his team. So they rather err on the side of caution. This is true for certain managers that challenge referess e.g. Mourinho, Wenger, Simeone. Dont see anything wrong with that.

4. His minnow coaches that he planted at teams like Wigan etc that were good for 4-0 ManU win every season but played out their skin against everyone else.

Not true. Or else one would explain why the likes of Blackburn walloped Fergie at home thanks to a Bentley hattrick. Was Moyes a Fergie plant? Wenger?

Most of the above are beer parlour tales. Once someone sits down and looks at the full scope of Fergie's career in detail i.e. football match after football match. all of this would be mostly disproved. One doesnt win a cup with Aberdeen beating strong European teams because of the above. Not to mention his winning two Champions League trophies. NA YAM??

[Coach]

Betterment by association. United were successful and generally had the necessary compliment of quality that, through osmosis, diffusion and various other forms of active transport, brought performance beyond the ability of the other make weights. As the class and calibre of the squad regressed, so too did that of its buffers, leaving them awash with mediocrity. A complete overhaul is not least essential, but unavoidable, mandatory almost. Tactically, they can still deploy a back three, but will need to swell the midfield and move the width further up the field. For now, the clobberings will become commonplace.

[Chief Ogbunigwe]

1. Ferguson could get players to play out of their skin. He was a supreme motivator.

True. Solid Man manager

2. ManU had a fear factor which beats most teams before stepping on pitch

Built up due to many years of success and good marketing.

3. Refs. Those guys gave ManU at least 9 undeserved pts a season due to fear of Ferguson

Fergie liked questioning every suspicious call that went against his team. So they rather err on the side of caution. This is true for certain managers that challenge referess e.g. Mourinho, Wenger, Simeone. Dont see anything wrong with that.

4. His minnow coaches that he planted at teams like Wigan etc that were good for 4-0 ManU win every season but played out their skin against everyone else.

Not true. Or else one would explain why the likes of Blackburn walloped Fergie at home thanks to a Bentley hattrick. Was Moyes a Fergie plant? Wenger?

Most of the above are beer parlour tales. Once someone sits down and looks at the full scope of Fergie's career in detail i.e. football match after football match. all of this would be mostly disproved. One doesnt win a cup with Aberdeen beating strong European teams because of the above. Not to mention his winning two Champions League trophies. NA YAM??

[akamoke]

1. Ferguson could get players to play out of their skin. He was a supreme motivator.

True. Solid Man manager

2. ManU had a fear factor which beats most teams before stepping on pitch

Built up due to many years of success and good marketing.

3. Refs. Those guys gave ManU at least 9 undeserved pts a season due to fear of Ferguson

Fergie liked questioning every suspicious call that went against his team. So they rather err on the side of caution. This is true for certain managers that challenge referess e.g. Mourinho, Wenger, Simeone. Dont see anything wrong with that.

4. His minnow coaches that he planted at teams like Wigan etc that were good for 4-0 ManU win every season but played out their skin against everyone else.

Not true. Or else one would explain why the likes of Blackburn walloped Fergie at home thanks to a Bentley hattrick. Was Moyes a Fergie plant? Wenger?

Most of the above are beer parlour tales. Once someone sits down and looks at the full scope of Fergie's career in detail i.e. football match after football match. all of this would be mostly disproved. One doesnt win a cup with Aberdeen beating strong European teams because of the above. Not to mention his winning two Champions League trophies. NA YAM??

Voice of reason

[platinum]

This lineup beat Arsenal 8-2. Ferguson was a MASTER. LVG is too but he has to get to know his team first.

[Kargamania]

1. Ferguson could get players to play out of their skin. He was a supreme motivator.

True. Solid Man manager

2. ManU had a fear factor which beats most teams before stepping on pitch

Built up due to many years of success and good marketing.

3. Refs. Those guys gave ManU at least 9 undeserved pts a season due to fear of Ferguson

Fergie liked questioning every suspicious call that went against his team. So they rather err on the side of caution. This is true for certain managers that challenge referess e.g. Mourinho, Wenger, Simeone. Dont see anything wrong with that.

4. His minnow coaches that he planted at teams like Wigan etc that were good for 4-0 ManU win every season but played out their skin against everyone else.

Not true. Or else one would explain why the likes of Blackburn walloped Fergie at home thanks to a Bentley hattrick. Was Moyes a Fergie plant? Wenger?

Most of the above are beer parlour tales. Once someone sits down and looks at the full scope of Fergie's career in detail i.e. football match after football match. all of this would be mostly disproved. One doesnt win a cup with Aberdeen beating strong European teams because of the above. Not to mention his winning two Champions League trophies. NA YAM??

Voice of reason

Spot on!

We keep forgetting that the smaller teams like Newcastle, Blackburn etc walloped Fergie's team at one time or the other but he has a way of whipping his team back to shape after each disgrace. Also, for No.4 to hold true, then Arsene Wenger, Moyes, past Liverpool and Tottenham coaches must all be Fergie's boys. He even beat Arsenal 4-0 at a time playing an injury-depleted team with 7 defenders. I tend to dislike him for other reasons but give the old man his dues. Cristao II was spot on!

[Thunder]

Sondoco's got some nerves displaying this in front of the Theater Of Dreams. O ma se o.

[toyin133]

[Thunder]

Oh my God, what did I do?

[tfco]

This lineup beat Arsenal 8-2. Ferguson was a MASTER. LVG is too but he has to get to know his team first.

no mind the haters

SAF was a fu.cking genius.

Yet some Internet Blogging Chicken will come mention a game against Juve in 2002 when he was beaten..therefore he was tactically naive

smh

[amafolas]

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

[Cristao II]

This lineup beat Arsenal 8-2. Ferguson was a MASTER. LVG is too but he has to get to know his team first.

Look at the bench. Fergie took major risks. It is extremely light on class central midfielders.

[oloye]

This lineup beat Arsenal 8-2. Ferguson was a MASTER. LVG is too but he has to get to know his team first.

no mind the haters

SAF was a fu.cking genius.

Yet some Internet Blogging Chicken will come mention a game against Juve in 2002 when he was beaten..therefore he was tactically naive

smh

Haters say some of the daftest things you will ever hear on earth. Some clowns said sir Fergie was winning because he planted his boys in the epl...just when you thought you could not hear anything more daft. A team got walloped 8-2 i checked the coach he was not from sir Fergie school of coaching he was supposed to be a professor of football. Take it or leave. Sir Fergie was a geniuse

[cic old boy]

no mind the haters

SAF was a fu.cking genius.

Yet some Internet Blogging Chicken will come mention a game against Juve in 2002 when he was beaten..therefore he was tactically naive

smh

You can revisit this thread to see the roll call of experts that didn’t rate the “tactical anarchist”.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=240244
Lee Sharpe, Del Bosque, Schmeichel, Joey Barton, Paul Parker, Jan Molby, Paul Ince, etc.

[anointed]

no mind the haters

SAF was a fu.cking genius.

Yet some Internet Blogging Chicken will come mention a game against Juve in 2002 when he was beaten..therefore he was tactically naive

smh

You can revisit this thread to see the roll call of experts that didn’t rate the “tactical anarchist”.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=240244
Lee Sharpe, Del Bosque, Schmeichel, Joey Barton, Paul Parker, Jan Molby, Paul Ince, etc.

All of you were simply wrong!

[mcal]

This lineup beat Arsenal 8-2. Ferguson was a MASTER. LVG is too but he has to get to know his team first.

no mind the haters

SAF was a fu.cking genius.

Yet some Internet Blogging Chicken will come mention a game against Juve in 2002 when he was beaten..therefore he was tactically naive

smh

Haters say some of the daftest things you will ever hear on earth. Some clowns said sir Fergie was winning because he planted his boys in the epl...just when you thought you could not hear anything more daft. A team got walloped 8-2 i checked the coach he was not from sir Fergie school of coaching he was supposed to be a professor of football. Take it or leave. Sir Fergie was a geniuse

...one can say too, that Keshi's approach to SE is as genius as SAF. Some coaches (foreign or local) take average SE players to games never achieved but Keshi took same average and achieved
Coaching is all mental psychology, not necessarily tactic.