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Chief Coach Oliseh wrote: “I and my assistants have discovered that there is a lot work to do. We need time because the basic problem we have as a crew is that we have a completely new team. Our case is that unlike a coach who usually inherits six or seven regular players on taking over a club only to bring in three or four new players, we are coming in and starting from the scratch. In the past one year, it has been one player today another tomorrow in the Eagles and given that situation, it will be difficult to say how long it will take us to build a team.

https://www.naij.com/529074-oliseh-begs ... press.html

Completely unfair, the spine of the team had pretty much been there for a while, but players lose form, new/better players pop up. Starting from scratch yet you call a majority of players that Keshi has used before, is it the Igboun's thats the new revelation that Oliseh is bringing in?

maceo4 wrote:Completely unfair, the spine of the team had pretty much been there for a while, but players lose form, new/better players pop up. Starting from scratch yet you call a majority of players that Keshi has used before, is it the Igboun's thats the new revelation that Oliseh is bringing in?

The spine as u call it is very bare.

Basically Mikel, Onazi, Musa, Omeruo, Enyeama and that's it.

How can u only have around 5 well established players after over 3 years on the job. And please do not give form of players as an excuse.

What Ke$hi did is absolutley pathetic for a professional coach. There is no two ways about it.

smartbrother wrote:

Chief Coach Oliseh wrote: “I and my assistants have discovered that there is a lot work to do. We need time because the basic problem we have as a crew is that we have a completely new team. Our case is that unlike a coach who usually inherits six or seven regular players on taking over a club only to bring in three or four new players, we are coming in and starting from the scratch. In the past one year, it has been one player today another tomorrow in the Eagles and given that situation, it will be difficult to say how long it will take us to build a team.

https://www.naij.com/529074-oliseh-begs ... press.html

Which of the teams is Oliseh referring to here? We've got the SE proper and the CHAN Eagles.

Looking at the FB SE, the players Keshi has used before are in highlight:

Goalkeepers: Vincent Enyeama, Carl Ikeme.

Defenders: Leon Balogun, Kingsley Madu, Godfrey Oboabona, William Troost Ekong, Kenneth Omeruo

Midfielders: Joel Obi, Izunna Ernest Uzochukwu, Obiora Nwankwo, Lukman Haruna, Rabiu Ibrahim

Forwards: Ahmed Musa, Emem Eduok, Emmanuel Emenike, Anthony Ujah,, Sylvester Igboun, Moses Simon

But it could be assumed that Oliseh is talking about the CHAN team since he has yet to work/train with the FB and as far as it makes sense, the CHAN team only convenes for the CHAN tourney. They are not regularly in camp for any serious reasons.

anointed wrote:

smartbrother wrote:

Chief Coach Oliseh wrote: “I and my assistants have discovered that there is a lot work to do. We need time because the basic problem we have as a crew is that we have a completely new team. Our case is that unlike a coach who usually inherits six or seven regular players on taking over a club only to bring in three or four new players, we are coming in and starting from the scratch. In the past one year, it has been one player today another tomorrow in the Eagles and given that situation, it will be difficult to say how long it will take us to build a team.

https://www.naij.com/529074-oliseh-begs ... press.html

Which of the teams is Oliseh referring to here? We've got the SE proper and the CHAN Eagles.

Looking at the FB SE, the players Keshi has used before are in highlight:

Goalkeepers: Vincent Enyeama, Carl Ikeme.

Defenders: Leon Balogun, Kingsley Madu, Godfrey Oboabona, William Troost Ekong, Kenneth Omeruo

Midfielders: Joel Obi, Izunna Ernest Uzochukwu, Obiora Nwankwo, Lukman Haruna, Rabiu Ibrahim

Forwards: Ahmed Musa, Emem Eduok, Emmanuel Emenike, Anthony Ujah,, Sylvester Igboun, Moses Simon

But it could be assumed that Oliseh is talking about the CHAN team since he has yet to work/train with the FB and as far as it makes sense, the CHAN team only convenes for the CHAN tourney. They are not regularly in camp for any serious reasons.

you are completely missing the point
a spine takes time and stability to build
oliseh is talking about the revolving door policy under crook coach keshi which meant a spine was never built
capping a player is not the same thing as integrating a player
Moses, ujah , joel Obi , Rabiu and eduok for example may have been capped once or twice but they were never integrated by keshi
that is because they already have thriving professional careers so had no use for Tony Harri$$' agency services
Lukman was overlooked to make way for Gabriel Okechukwu who is an electrican/groundnut seller by day depending on who you ask

smartbrother wrote:

anointed wrote:

smartbrother wrote:

Chief Coach Oliseh wrote: “I and my assistants have discovered that there is a lot work to do. We need time because the basic problem we have as a crew is that we have a completely new team. Our case is that unlike a coach who usually inherits six or seven regular players on taking over a club only to bring in three or four new players, we are coming in and starting from the scratch. In the past one year, it has been one player today another tomorrow in the Eagles and given that situation, it will be difficult to say how long it will take us to build a team.

https://www.naij.com/529074-oliseh-begs ... press.html

Which of the teams is Oliseh referring to here? We've got the SE proper and the CHAN Eagles.

Looking at the FB SE, the players Keshi has used before are in highlight:

Goalkeepers: Vincent Enyeama, Carl Ikeme.

Defenders: Leon Balogun, Kingsley Madu, Godfrey Oboabona, William Troost Ekong, Kenneth Omeruo

Midfielders: Joel Obi, Izunna Ernest Uzochukwu, Obiora Nwankwo, Lukman Haruna, Rabiu Ibrahim

Forwards: Ahmed Musa, Emem Eduok, Emmanuel Emenike, Anthony Ujah,, Sylvester Igboun, Moses Simon

But it could be assumed that Oliseh is talking about the CHAN team since he has yet to work/train with the FB and as far as it makes sense, the CHAN team only convenes for the CHAN tourney. They are not regularly in camp for any serious reasons.

you are completely missing the point
a spine takes time and stability to build
oliseh is talking about the revolving door policy under crook coach keshi which meant a spine was never built
capping a player is not the same thing as integrating a player
Moses, ujah , joel Obi , Rabiu and eduok for example may have been capped once or twice but they were never integrated by keshi
that is because they already have thriving professional careers so had no use for Tony Harri$$' agency services
Lukman was overlooked to make way for Gabriel Okechukwu who is an electrican/groundnut seller by day depending on who you ask

I've been critical of Keshi all along but I'm not buying this from Oliseh. He's not exactly starting from the scratch. BTW, you are the one using 'spine'.

anointed wrote:

smartbrother wrote:

anointed wrote:

smartbrother wrote:

Chief Coach Oliseh wrote: “I and my assistants have discovered that there is a lot work to do. We need time because the basic problem we have as a crew is that we have a completely new team. Our case is that unlike a coach who usually inherits six or seven regular players on taking over a club only to bring in three or four new players, we are coming in and starting from the scratch. In the past one year, it has been one player today another tomorrow in the Eagles and given that situation, it will be difficult to say how long it will take us to build a team.

https://www.naij.com/529074-oliseh-begs ... press.html

Which of the teams is Oliseh referring to here? We've got the SE proper and the CHAN Eagles.

Looking at the FB SE, the players Keshi has used before are in highlight:

Goalkeepers: Vincent Enyeama, Carl Ikeme.

Defenders: Leon Balogun, Kingsley Madu, Godfrey Oboabona, William Troost Ekong, Kenneth Omeruo

Midfielders: Joel Obi, Izunna Ernest Uzochukwu, Obiora Nwankwo, Lukman Haruna, Rabiu Ibrahim

Forwards: Ahmed Musa, Emem Eduok, Emmanuel Emenike, Anthony Ujah,, Sylvester Igboun, Moses Simon

But it could be assumed that Oliseh is talking about the CHAN team since he has yet to work/train with the FB and as far as it makes sense, the CHAN team only convenes for the CHAN tourney. They are not regularly in camp for any serious reasons.

you are completely missing the point
a spine takes time and stability to build
oliseh is talking about the revolving door policy under crook coach keshi which meant a spine was never built
capping a player is not the same thing as integrating a player
Moses, ujah , joel Obi , Rabiu and eduok for example may have been capped once or twice but they were never integrated by keshi
that is because they already have thriving professional careers so had no use for Tony Harri$$' agency services
Lukman was overlooked to make way for Gabriel Okechukwu who is an electrican/groundnut seller by day depending on who you ask

I've been critical of Keshi all along but I'm not buying this from Oliseh. He's not exactly starting from the scratch. BTW, you are the one using 'spine'.

Oliseh need to get on with it and stop diversionary tactics. He's been talking on the sidelines of the kind of players we need long before Keshi was fired. He's commentated many games and express what he would have done.

Keshi did not have a spine of a team when he started. In fact he started with home based players and he was vilified for it.
Oliseh need to work more talk and travel less. He'll be fine if he belies in what he's doing.

anointed wrote: .... BTW, you are the one using 'spine'.

So exactly what do you think Oliseh means when he says 6 or 7 REGULAR players?

Chief Coach Oliseh wrote: "Our case is that unlike a coach who usually inherits six or seven regular players on taking over a club "

smartbrother wrote:

anointed wrote: .... BTW, you are the one using 'spine'.

So exactly what do you think Oliseh means when he says 6 or 7 REGULAR players?

Chief Coach Oliseh wrote: "Our case is that unlike a coach who usually inherits six or seven regular players on taking over a club"

SE is not a club. So that spine doesn't exist. It is a national team. I am one of the most vocal against the style of Keshi. I was even suspended here for it. But Keshi never talked of a spine when he took over after Siasia and went on to win the afcon.

Oliseh using a club as example misses the point.

smartbrother wrote:

anointed wrote: .... BTW, you are the one using 'spine'.

So exactly what do you think Oliseh means when he says 6 or 7 REGULAR players?

Chief Coach Oliseh wrote: "Our case is that unlike a coach who usually inherits six or seven regular players on taking over a club"

SE is not a club. So that spine doesn't exist. It is a national team. I am one of the most vocal against the style of Keshi. I was even suspended here for it. But Keshi never talked of a spine when he took over after Siasia and went on to win the afcon.

Oliseh using a club as example misses the point.

smartbrother wrote:

anointed wrote: .... BTW, you are the one using 'spine'.

So exactly what do you think Oliseh means when he says 6 or 7 REGULAR players?

Chief Coach Oliseh wrote: "Our case is that unlike a coach who usually inherits six or seven regular players on taking over a club"

SE is not a club. So that spine doesn't exist. It is a national team. I am one of the most vocal against the style of Keshi. I was even suspended here for it. But Keshi never talked of a spine when he took over after Siasia and went on to win the afcon.

Oliseh using a club as example misses the point.

under Keshi we had NO team, just an avalanche of no-names been called up randomly...for once in my life as a Super Eagles fan...I could not even pin down a regular SE starting 11 under Keshi save for the usual names like Enyeama,Onazi,Mikel,and Musa,the world cup story was a shamble,we had no bench, no stand out players/game changers save for Enyeama,Osaze,and to some extent Onazi...the rest were pretty much..junks,just when I thought the clown had gotten a right team set up after the AFCON 2013 victory.

yannick wrote:under Keshi we had NO team, just an avalanche of no-names been called up randomly...for once in my life as a Super Eagles fan...I could not even pin down a regular SE starting 11 under Keshi save for the usual names like Enyeama,Onazi,Mikel,and Musa,the world cup story was a shamble,we had no bench, no stand out players/game changers save for Enyeama,Osaze,and to some extent Onazi...the rest were pretty much..junks,just when I thought the clown had gotten a right team set up after the AFCON 2013 victory.

I dunno what you been watching but the majority of the starting 11 under Keshi was

Ambrose---Omeruo---Oboabona---Echiejile

------------Onazi--------Mikel

---winger-----------------------winger

-----------------Emenike

maceo4 wrote:

yannick wrote:under Keshi we had NO team, just an avalanche of no-names been called up randomly...for once in my life as a Super Eagles fan...I could not even pin down a regular SE starting 11 under Keshi save for the usual names like Enyeama,Onazi,Mikel,and Musa,the world cup story was a shamble,we had no bench, no stand out players/game changers save for Enyeama,Osaze,and to some extent Onazi...the rest were pretty much..junks,just when I thought the clown had gotten a right team set up after the AFCON 2013 victory.

I dunno what you been watching but the majority of the starting 11 under Keshi was

Ambrose---Omeruo---Oboabona---Echiejile

------------Onazi--------Mikel

---winger-----------------------winger

-----------------Emenike
and how consistent was this line up post AFCON 2013?

pajimoh wrote:

anointed wrote:

smartbrother wrote:

anointed wrote:

smartbrother wrote:

Chief Coach Oliseh wrote: “I and my assistants have discovered that there is a lot work to do. We need time because the basic problem we have as a crew is that we have a completely new team. Our case is that unlike a coach who usually inherits six or seven regular players on taking over a club only to bring in three or four new players, we are coming in and starting from the scratch. In the past one year, it has been one player today another tomorrow in the Eagles and given that situation, it will be difficult to say how long it will take us to build a team.

https://www.naij.com/529074-oliseh-begs ... press.html

Which of the teams is Oliseh referring to here? We've got the SE proper and the CHAN Eagles.

Looking at the FB SE, the players Keshi has used before are in highlight:

Goalkeepers: Vincent Enyeama, Carl Ikeme.

Defenders: Leon Balogun, Kingsley Madu, Godfrey Oboabona, William Troost Ekong, Kenneth Omeruo

Midfielders: Joel Obi, Izunna Ernest Uzochukwu, Obiora Nwankwo, Lukman Haruna, Rabiu Ibrahim

Forwards: Ahmed Musa, Emem Eduok, Emmanuel Emenike, Anthony Ujah,, Sylvester Igboun, Moses Simon

But it could be assumed that Oliseh is talking about the CHAN team since he has yet to work/train with the FB and as far as it makes sense, the CHAN team only convenes for the CHAN tourney. They are not regularly in camp for any serious reasons.

you are completely missing the point
a spine takes time and stability to build
oliseh is talking about the revolving door policy under crook coach keshi which meant a spine was never built
capping a player is not the same thing as integrating a player
Moses, ujah , joel Obi , Rabiu and eduok for example may have been capped once or twice but they were never integrated by keshi
that is because they already have thriving professional careers so had no use for Tony Harri$$' agency services
Lukman was overlooked to make way for Gabriel Okechukwu who is an electrican/groundnut seller by day depending on who you ask

I've been critical of Keshi all along but I'm not buying this from Oliseh. He's not exactly starting from the scratch. BTW, you are the one using 'spine'.

Oliseh need to get on with it and stop diversionary tactics. He's been talking on the sidelines of the kind of players we need long before Keshi was fired. He's commentated many games and express what he would have done.

Keshi did not have a spine of a team when he started. In fact he started with home based players and he was vilified for it.
Oliseh need to work more talk and travel less. He'll be fine if he belies in what he's doing.

This is what upsets me about some of u Keshi arse lickers.

The highlighted statement is patently false. The primary reason for Keshi's success is the core that Siasia left him when he took over, and to which he Keshi, to his eternal credit added to, with the likes of Moses, Omeruo and Oboabona. This after wasting more than one year on a HB project that yielded 1-2 players, and having to return to the core group that SS had put in place...

But he never built on this subsequently and by the time he was fired, the team had no viable core group of players. And in many instances, he was floundering on his choice of players...

And it should be noted here, for the benefit of clarity and FACTS, that Oliseh never directly referred to Keshi

Oliseh needs to shut up and get on with the job. He's saying things that are jeopardising his reputation as a person of high intelligence.

This is typical "na empty treasury i meet" Naija politician speak!

Cmoke

pajimoh wrote:

anointed wrote:

smartbrother wrote:

anointed wrote:

smartbrother wrote:

Chief Coach Oliseh wrote: “I and my assistants have discovered that there is a lot work to do. We need time because the basic problem we have as a crew is that we have a completely new team. Our case is that unlike a coach who usually inherits six or seven regular players on taking over a club only to bring in three or four new players, we are coming in and starting from the scratch. In the past one year, it has been one player today another tomorrow in the Eagles and given that situation, it will be difficult to say how long it will take us to build a team.

https://www.naij.com/529074-oliseh-begs ... press.html

Which of the teams is Oliseh referring to here? We've got the SE proper and the CHAN Eagles.

Looking at the FB SE, the players Keshi has used before are in highlight:

Goalkeepers: Vincent Enyeama, Carl Ikeme.

Defenders: Leon Balogun, Kingsley Madu, Godfrey Oboabona, William Troost Ekong, Kenneth Omeruo

Midfielders: Joel Obi, Izunna Ernest Uzochukwu, Obiora Nwankwo, Lukman Haruna, Rabiu Ibrahim

Forwards: Ahmed Musa, Emem Eduok, Emmanuel Emenike, Anthony Ujah,, Sylvester Igboun, Moses Simon

But it could be assumed that Oliseh is talking about the CHAN team since he has yet to work/train with the FB and as far as it makes sense, the CHAN team only convenes for the CHAN tourney. They are not regularly in camp for any serious reasons.

you are completely missing the point
a spine takes time and stability to build
oliseh is talking about the revolving door policy under crook coach keshi which meant a spine was never built
capping a player is not the same thing as integrating a player
Moses, ujah , joel Obi , Rabiu and eduok for example may have been capped once or twice but they were never integrated by keshi
that is because they already have thriving professional careers so had no use for Tony Harri$$' agency services
Lukman was overlooked to make way for Gabriel Okechukwu who is an electrican/groundnut seller by day depending on who you ask

I've been critical of Keshi all along but I'm not buying this from Oliseh. He's not exactly starting from the scratch. BTW, you are the one using 'spine'.

Oliseh need to get on with it and stop diversionary tactics. He's been talking on the sidelines of the kind of players we need long before Keshi was fired. He's commentated many games and express what he would have done.

Keshi did not have a spine of a team when he started. In fact he started with home based players and he was vilified for it.
Oliseh need to work more talk and travel less. He'll be fine if he belies in what he's doing.

Wrong. Kesha built on a good crop of players integrated into the SE by Siaisa. He used this base to qualify thus finding it easier in settling to his ideas. He had Enyema, Echnjele, Ambrose, Oboabona, Moeses and Omerou. These players from Siasia tenure became mainstays in Keshi's initial success.

I will not judge yet, Keshi also claimed he was rebuilding from scratch when he took over, all Coaches do this to buy time for themselves. You judge the new Coach on his selections to see if he is truly building a new team.

Cmoke wrote:This is typical "na empty treasury i meet" Naija politician speak!

Cmoke

Naim oh.

People still crying over Keshi! The situation reminds me of those babes where the bobo dey cheat on them but the babes refuse to accept it is happening continue to offer support to the boyfriend (suckers)

Waffiman wrote:

pajimoh wrote:

anointed wrote:

smartbrother wrote:

anointed wrote:

smartbrother wrote:

Chief Coach Oliseh wrote: “I and my assistants have discovered that there is a lot work to do. We need time because the basic problem we have as a crew is that we have a completely new team. Our case is that unlike a coach who usually inherits six or seven regular players on taking over a club only to bring in three or four new players, we are coming in and starting from the scratch. In the past one year, it has been one player today another tomorrow in the Eagles and given that situation, it will be difficult to say how long it will take us to build a team.

https://www.naij.com/529074-oliseh-begs ... press.html

Which of the teams is Oliseh referring to here? We've got the SE proper and the CHAN Eagles.

Looking at the FB SE, the players Keshi has used before are in highlight:

Goalkeepers: Vincent Enyeama, Carl Ikeme.

Defenders: Leon Balogun, Kingsley Madu, Godfrey Oboabona, William Troost Ekong, Kenneth Omeruo

Midfielders: Joel Obi, Izunna Ernest Uzochukwu, Obiora Nwankwo, Lukman Haruna, Rabiu Ibrahim

Forwards: Ahmed Musa, Emem Eduok, Emmanuel Emenike, Anthony Ujah,, Sylvester Igboun, Moses Simon

But it could be assumed that Oliseh is talking about the CHAN team since he has yet to work/train with the FB and as far as it makes sense, the CHAN team only convenes for the CHAN tourney. They are not regularly in camp for any serious reasons.

you are completely missing the point
a spine takes time and stability to build
oliseh is talking about the revolving door policy under crook coach keshi which meant a spine was never built
capping a player is not the same thing as integrating a player
Moses, ujah , joel Obi , Rabiu and eduok for example may have been capped once or twice but they were never integrated by keshi
that is because they already have thriving professional careers so had no use for Tony Harri$$' agency services
Lukman was overlooked to make way for Gabriel Okechukwu who is an electrican/groundnut seller by day depending on who you ask

I've been critical of Keshi all along but I'm not buying this from Oliseh. He's not exactly starting from the scratch. BTW, you are the one using 'spine'.

Oliseh need to get on with it and stop diversionary tactics. He's been talking on the sidelines of the kind of players we need long before Keshi was fired. He's commentated many games and express what he would have done.

Keshi did not have a spine of a team when he started. In fact he started with home based players and he was vilified for it.
Oliseh need to work more talk and travel less. He'll be fine if he belies in what he's doing.

Wrong. Kesha built on a good crop of players integrated into the SE by Siaisa. He used this base to qualify thus finding it easier in settling to his ideas. He had Enyema, Echnjele, Ambrose, Oboabona, Moeses and Omerou. These players from Siasia tenure became mainstays in Keshi's initial success.

I will not judge yet, Keshi also claimed he was rebuilding from scratch when he took over, all Coaches do this to buy time for themselves. You judge the new Coach on his selections to see if he is truly building a new team.

Core of players and spine two different things. These core players still exist today and even the ones Keshi failed to call up that many believed could have added much needed quality to the team.
The bottom line is while Keshi flirted with discovering potential talent in the local league and forming a team, he got on with the job like many before him with whatever players they have at their disposal.

Oliseh can decide no quality players available to form the spine of his team but all the players available to Keshi, apart from Yobo, are still active

How this news is about Keshi is beyond me. People should be ashamed of themselves.

Robotnik wrote:How this news is about Keshi is beyond me. People should be ashamed of themselves.

txj wrote:
And it should be noted here, for the benefit of clarity and FACTS, that Oliseh never directly referred to Keshi

Thank goodness there are still a few people with brains left..