ALGERIA A BLESSING IN DISGUISE - SA COACH
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ALGERIA A BLESSING IN DISGUISE - SA COACH
by Neil Greig
Monday Dec 07, 2015. 11:00
South Africa Under 23 coach Owen da Gama knows that Wednesday's semifinal against Algeria will be tough, but feels they are the better team to play than Nigeria who face Senegal in the other semi.
Wednesday see both semifinals taking place in Senegal where the CAF U23 Nations Cup has been taking place.
The top three sides will qualify for the 2016 Rio Olympic Games. South Africa hope to win the game and gain automatic qualification for Rio.l If they lose to Algeria, they can still qualify should they win the third place playoff on the weekend.
"It is going to be a tough one there is no doubt about it, these are the best four nations on the continent at this stage. We were expecting any one between Algeria, Nigeria and Egypt but we got Algeria as they topped their group," Da Gama told Safa Media.
"It is probably a blessing in disguise that we are playing them because Nigeria is also a quality team as well as Egypt, who have unfortunately been knocked out.
"We have to deal with another North African tactical approach, very technical, solid in defence and very organised with very quick fullbacks and wingers. We will once more have almost the same type of approach.
"We will get good feedback from our technical team that went to watch the Algeria vs Nigeria clash, sit down, analyze them and find an approach to deal with them. Once again, it is always going to be 70 percent of what we do and the other 30 percent of what they are about – otherwise you lose focus on your strengths if you focus too much on the opposition.
"We have to be very optimistic, we have to be very positive and tell ourselves that we have a very good chance in this game and most likely the opposition will be saying the same. The mood in the camp is very positive and we know what we are capable of on the day and I still believe if we get it right on the day we will come out victorious."
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by Neil Greig
Monday Dec 07, 2015. 11:00
South Africa Under 23 coach Owen da Gama knows that Wednesday's semifinal against Algeria will be tough, but feels they are the better team to play than Nigeria who face Senegal in the other semi.
Wednesday see both semifinals taking place in Senegal where the CAF U23 Nations Cup has been taking place.
The top three sides will qualify for the 2016 Rio Olympic Games. South Africa hope to win the game and gain automatic qualification for Rio.l If they lose to Algeria, they can still qualify should they win the third place playoff on the weekend.
"It is going to be a tough one there is no doubt about it, these are the best four nations on the continent at this stage. We were expecting any one between Algeria, Nigeria and Egypt but we got Algeria as they topped their group," Da Gama told Safa Media.
"It is probably a blessing in disguise that we are playing them because Nigeria is also a quality team as well as Egypt, who have unfortunately been knocked out.
"We have to deal with another North African tactical approach, very technical, solid in defence and very organised with very quick fullbacks and wingers. We will once more have almost the same type of approach.
"We will get good feedback from our technical team that went to watch the Algeria vs Nigeria clash, sit down, analyze them and find an approach to deal with them. Once again, it is always going to be 70 percent of what we do and the other 30 percent of what they are about – otherwise you lose focus on your strengths if you focus too much on the opposition.
"We have to be very optimistic, we have to be very positive and tell ourselves that we have a very good chance in this game and most likely the opposition will be saying the same. The mood in the camp is very positive and we know what we are capable of on the day and I still believe if we get it right on the day we will come out victorious."
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Be careful what you ask for. The Algerian team I watched play against Nigeria and Egypt can cause major problems for South Africa.
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"We have to deal with another North African tactical approach, very technical, solid in defence and very organised with very quick fullbacks and wingers. We will once more have almost the same type of approach...."
This is the type of technical analysis of the opponents that I would like to hear from our local coaches, not all those ignorant craps they tend to spew. Or else they would tell you that they know absolutely NOTHING about their opponents or how they are going to play. Talk about going to a war blindfolded
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Thank you, Super Eagle. My feelings exactly. I think the reason our coaches claim ignorance of opponents is that they might then expose their inability to analyze their tactics and strategies.Super Eagle wrote:
"We have to deal with another North African tactical approach, very technical, solid in defence and very organised with very quick fullbacks and wingers. We will once more have almost the same type of approach...."
This is the type of technical analysis of the opponents that I would like to hear from our local coaches, not all those ignorant craps they tend to spew. Or else they would tell you that they know absolutely NOTHING about their opponents or how they are going to play. Talk about going to a war blindfolded
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Rubbish Tunisia dominated this team for 70 minutes...SA play as they did in that game and Algeria is on their way to Rio.
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Polly wrote:Thank you, Super Eagle. My feelings exactly. I think the reason our coaches claim ignorance of opponents is that they might then expose their inability to analyze their tactics and strategies.Super Eagle wrote:
"We have to deal with another North African tactical approach, very technical, solid in defence and very organised with very quick fullbacks and wingers. We will once more have almost the same type of approach...."
This is the type of technical analysis of the opponents that I would like to hear from our local coaches, not all those ignorant craps they tend to spew. Or else they would tell you that they know absolutely NOTHING about their opponents or how they are going to play. Talk about going to a war blindfolded
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And our coach is hoping, praying that the fact that he scored against Senegal in 1992 will galvanise his team to win.Polly wrote:Thank you, Super Eagle. My feelings exactly. I think the reason our coaches claim ignorance of opponents is that they might then expose their inability to analyze their tactics and strategies.Super Eagle wrote:
"We have to deal with another North African tactical approach, very technical, solid in defence and very organised with very quick fullbacks and wingers. We will once more have almost the same type of approach...."
This is the type of technical analysis of the opponents that I would like to hear from our local coaches, not all those ignorant craps they tend to spew. Or else they would tell you that they know absolutely NOTHING about their opponents or how they are going to play. Talk about going to a war blindfolded
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Natives!Polly wrote:Thank you, Super Eagle. My feelings exactly. I think the reason our coaches claim ignorance of opponents is that they might then expose their inability to analyze their tactics and strategies.Super Eagle wrote:
"We have to deal with another North African tactical approach, very technical, solid in defence and very organised with very quick fullbacks and wingers. We will once more have almost the same type of approach...."
This is the type of technical analysis of the opponents that I would like to hear from our local coaches, not all those ignorant craps they tend to spew. Or else they would tell you that they know absolutely NOTHING about their opponents or how they are going to play. Talk about going to a war blindfolded
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He may get his wish and meet Nigeria in the 3rd place match.
.....Hope not
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Here is Siasia's analysis and preparation for Senegal:
"I would have preferred to play Senegal in the final but I have to do at the semis. It will be a great match because they will have the public behind them and we have to play and win.
"At the Africa Cup of Nations in 1992, I scored here (Leopold Sedar Senghor Stadium), and this is why most Senegalese remember me. I will be around my players to repeat it next Wednesday."
"I would have preferred to play Senegal in the final but I have to do at the semis. It will be a great match because they will have the public behind them and we have to play and win.
"At the Africa Cup of Nations in 1992, I scored here (Leopold Sedar Senghor Stadium), and this is why most Senegalese remember me. I will be around my players to repeat it next Wednesday."
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short and sweet. beautifulPolly wrote:Here is Siasia's analysis and preparation for Senegal:
"I would have preferred to play Senegal in the final but I have to do at the semis. It will be a great match because they will have the public behind them and we have to play and win.
"At the Africa Cup of Nations in 1992, I scored here (Leopold Sedar Senghor Stadium), and this is why most Senegalese remember me. I will be around my players to repeat it next Wednesday."
by the way who told you this quote constitutes "Siasia's analysis and preparation for Senegal"?
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[color=brown]smartbrother[/color] wrote:short and sweet. beautiful[color=brown]Polly[/color] wrote: Here is Siasia's analysis and preparation for Senegal:
"I would have preferred to play Senegal in the final but I have to do at the semis. It will be a great match because they will have the public behind them and we have to play and win.
"At the Africa Cup of Nations in 1992, I scored here (Leopold Sedar Senghor Stadium), and this is why most Senegalese remember me. I will be around my players to repeat it next Wednesday."
by the way who told you this quote constitutes "Siasia's analysis and preparation for Senegal"?
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Polly,Polly wrote:Here is Siasia's analysis and preparation for Senegal:
"I would have preferred to play Senegal in the final but I have to do at the semis. It will be a great match because they will have the public behind them and we have to play and win.
"At the Africa Cup of Nations in 1992, I scored here (Leopold Sedar Senghor Stadium), and this is why most Senegalese remember me. I will be around my players to repeat it next Wednesday."
I have absolutely no problem with the quote from Siasia. Why should he share with you or anyone else, for that matter, about his tactical plan? That is for the media to speculate. Siasia should share any tactical plan that he has with his players and no one else.
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No, I don't want him to share his tactical plan with me or anyone else. The question, as I have pointed out in another thread, is whether he has one. In the first two matches, he was exposed badly in each second half as the opposing coach responded emphatically to his game...but he appeared unable to flip his own switch. In the third match, Algeria needed a draw, and they got it. I just hope Siasia's 1992 exploits in Dakar has something to do with the challenge ahead.Enugu II wrote:Polly,Polly wrote:Here is Siasia's analysis and preparation for Senegal:
"I would have preferred to play Senegal in the final but I have to do at the semis. It will be a great match because they will have the public behind them and we have to play and win.
"At the Africa Cup of Nations in 1992, I scored here (Leopold Sedar Senghor Stadium), and this is why most Senegalese remember me. I will be around my players to repeat it next Wednesday."
I have absolutely no problem with the quote from Siasia. Why should he share with you or anyone else, for that matter, about his tactical plan? That is for the media to speculate. Siasia should share any tactical plan that he has with his players and no one else.
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Polly,Polly wrote:No, I don't want him to share his tactical plan with me or anyone else. The question, as I have pointed out in another thread, is whether he has one. In the first two matches, he was exposed badly in each second half as the opposing coach responded emphatically to his game...but he appeared unable to flip his own switch. In the third match, Algeria needed a draw, and they got it. I just hope Siasia's 1992 exploits in Dakar has something to do with the challenge ahead.Enugu II wrote:Polly,Polly wrote:Here is Siasia's analysis and preparation for Senegal:
"I would have preferred to play Senegal in the final but I have to do at the semis. It will be a great match because they will have the public behind them and we have to play and win.
"At the Africa Cup of Nations in 1992, I scored here (Leopold Sedar Senghor Stadium), and this is why most Senegalese remember me. I will be around my players to repeat it next Wednesday."
I have absolutely no problem with the quote from Siasia. Why should he share with you or anyone else, for that matter, about his tactical plan? That is for the media to speculate. Siasia should share any tactical plan that he has with his players and no one else.
Here is my question: In those two games what were the opposing coaches doing in the opening half when their tactics (presumably after watching Nigeria's games) were overwhelmed? Bros, the problem is we often assume that it is poor tactics that hurt our teams and that our coaches are always tactically poor. Why not give other teams credit for fighting back?
The reality is that in those games, the failure may not have been tactical. Is it not possible that after going up 3-0 at the half, that Nigeria would have a psychological let down. Meanwhile Mali, fighting desperately to stay in contention, will up their game!
We see this every day in many sports, NBA, NFL, or EPL or whatever where the losing team suddenly ups the tempo and the winning team is on its back foot. So why should the analysis of Nigeria's game always be something different? IMHO, while Nigeria and SSS may have tactical deficiencies, I am not so sure that such deficiencies are so bad compared to other coaches for other teams in this competition.
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Ol boy. Ma.you get time.ohsmartbrother wrote:short and sweet. beautifulPolly wrote:Here is Siasia's analysis and preparation for Senegal:
"I would have preferred to play Senegal in the final but I have to do at the semis. It will be a great match because they will have the public behind them and we have to play and win.
"At the Africa Cup of Nations in 1992, I scored here (Leopold Sedar Senghor Stadium), and this is why most Senegalese remember me. I will be around my players to repeat it next Wednesday."
by the way who told you this quote constitutes "Siasia's analysis and preparation for Senegal"?
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Until.Siasia.starts.blowing grammar and using phrases like technical analysis, he is already on the back foot. It's the copycat "originality" that satisfy some of our people. No wider the FA fell for some PowerPoint trick some years back
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End of storyEnugu II wrote:Polly,Polly wrote:Here is Siasia's analysis and preparation for Senegal:
"I would have preferred to play Senegal in the final but I have to do at the semis. It will be a great match because they will have the public behind them and we have to play and win.
"At the Africa Cup of Nations in 1992, I scored here (Leopold Sedar Senghor Stadium), and this is why most Senegalese remember me. I will be around my players to repeat it next Wednesday."
I have absolutely no problem with the quote from Siasia. Why should he share with you or anyone else, for that matter, about his tactical plan? That is for the media to speculate. Siasia should share any tactical plan that he has with his players and no one else.
For my sceptical Nigerian Friends : Pessimism is great because you are either always right or pleasantly surprised.
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Ok it is one thing about BEFORE the game.
but does anyone have any accounts of Nigerian coaches, breaking down matches even after matches.
When you corroborate all the evidence. The fact that Nigerian coaches, for example are not good at turning the tide in matches, the scarcity of drills in training and the lack of technical insight, before and or after matches....then you begin to suspect.
Where is the evidence. Even the organization of the players on the pitch. For example the way we were set up against Egypt, that was quite naive. The North Africans have very agile wingbacks, with a lot of tenacity...and not only did we have a slow leftback, but we compounded the problem with our highline. Or you look at, when we had the momentum against Egypt, but failed to consolidate the midfield.
Where is the evidence of technical capacity. Against Algeria it was a little bit better, but we were still suspect on the flanks.
but does anyone have any accounts of Nigerian coaches, breaking down matches even after matches.
When you corroborate all the evidence. The fact that Nigerian coaches, for example are not good at turning the tide in matches, the scarcity of drills in training and the lack of technical insight, before and or after matches....then you begin to suspect.
Where is the evidence. Even the organization of the players on the pitch. For example the way we were set up against Egypt, that was quite naive. The North Africans have very agile wingbacks, with a lot of tenacity...and not only did we have a slow leftback, but we compounded the problem with our highline. Or you look at, when we had the momentum against Egypt, but failed to consolidate the midfield.
Where is the evidence of technical capacity. Against Algeria it was a little bit better, but we were still suspect on the flanks.
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His tactical analysis brilliance didn't save his team today.
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You need to ask yourself why you think uefa certified coaches like SO and Amuneke have no idea of tactics. Forget that they played the game at the highest levels prior to taking up coaching, just focus on their coaching education. Why do you think they have no idea about tactics ? scarcity of drills in training , lack of technical insights, where's all these coming from ? Colo mentality maybe ?Tbite wrote:Ok it is one thing about BEFORE the game.
but does anyone have any accounts of Nigerian coaches, breaking down matches even after matches.
When you corroborate all the evidence. The fact that Nigerian coaches, for example are not good at turning the tide in matches, the scarcity of drills in training and the lack of technical insight, before and or after matches....then you begin to suspect.
Where is the evidence. Even the organization of the players on the pitch. For example the way we were set up against Egypt, that was quite naive. The North Africans have very agile wingbacks, with a lot of tenacity...and not only did we have a slow leftback, but we compounded the problem with our highline. Or you look at, when we had the momentum against Egypt, but failed to consolidate the midfield.
Where is the evidence of technical capacity. Against Algeria it was a little bit better, but we were still suspect on the flanks.
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The coach was right about the disguise but wrong about the entity under it.
It was bitterness and Algeria issued it.
The fear of Nigeria no dey make SA see well
It was bitterness and Algeria issued it.
The fear of Nigeria no dey make SA see well
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lagos777 wrote:You need to ask yourself why you think uefa certified coaches like SO and Amuneke have no idea of tactics. Forget that they played the game at the highest levels prior to taking up coaching, just focus on their coaching education. Why do you think they have no idea about tactics ? scarcity of drills in training , lack of technical insights, where's all these coming from ? Colo mentality maybe ?Tbite wrote:Ok it is one thing about BEFORE the game.
but does anyone have any accounts of Nigerian coaches, breaking down matches even after matches.
When you corroborate all the evidence. The fact that Nigerian coaches, for example are not good at turning the tide in matches, the scarcity of drills in training and the lack of technical insight, before and or after matches....then you begin to suspect.
Where is the evidence. Even the organization of the players on the pitch. For example the way we were set up against Egypt, that was quite naive. The North Africans have very agile wingbacks, with a lot of tenacity...and not only did we have a slow leftback, but we compounded the problem with our highline. Or you look at, when we had the momentum against Egypt, but failed to consolidate the midfield.
Where is the evidence of technical capacity. Against Algeria it was a little bit better, but we were still suspect on the flanks.
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