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Note also that Siasia had to give the players $100 each from his own funds for reaching the semi final stages when they had gone for weeks receiving no allowances or bonuses.

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14 December 2015, 10:58
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Dakar - After surmounting several odds to win the 2015 CAF U23 Africa Cup of Nations, Nigeria U23 coach Samson Siasia has called out on the Nigeria Football Federation to decry the challenges his team faced before emerging as champions of Africa at the U23 level.

It would be recalled that Siasia had before the U23 championship, lamented the lack of proper training materials for his team as well as their unpaid allowances.

Speaking in a radio interview, Siasia called for a change in how football is run in the country.

Also read: Siasia admits they were lucky to beat Senegal

“Sometimes you try to hide the truth because you don’t want to offend someone,” Siasia said in reference to the reprimand he received from the NFF after revealing the team’s challenges.

“If things don’t change, there won’t be a change in the sports sector or in anything we do in life because one person is your boss and you cannot tell him the truth and everybody else is in trouble because of that.

“For one year we didn’t get anything. Daily allowances, we didn’t get, jerseys we didn’t get, there were no training kits and we kept quiet.

“We know what we’ve done to preserve the image of our country. We buy jerseys and hide ourselves and try to look good for ourselves.

“We came over here (Senegal), we didn’t have anything to wear, we managed with just one jersey and we tried our best to represent our country and it was too much, we cannot continue like this,” he said.
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Total disgrace of a FA. Yet that thief Amaju Pinnick has the gall to open his rotten mouth and emit foul air. May he rot in hell. Stupid inconsiderate thief. One bloody jersey all tournament long and no pay. How were they supposed to feed. Fire burn the NFF. All of them. Nde Oshi
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Based on my research that I've conducted in reference to this nff owing coaches salary, I think the plausible reasons of their lack of defrayment from nff is simply in the hands of the President allocating funds to the federation. However, I doubt ce forumers would give nff the benefit of doubt based on their past antecedent and also based on the fact that the federation president is always wandering and gallivanting at emirates stadium in USA. This is my opinion because I couldn't find any other logical reasons why nff would owe coach oliseh &assistant and also siaisia and assistant.
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john12 wrote:Based on my research that I've conducted in reference to this nff owing coaches salary, I think the plausible reasons of their lack of defrayment from nff is simply in the hands of the President allocating funds to the federation. However, I doubt ce forumers would give nff the benefit of doubt based on their past antecedent and also based on the fact that the federation president is always wandering and gallivanting at emirates stadium in USA. This is my opinion because I couldn't find any other logical reasons why nff would owe coach oliseh &assistant and also siaisia and assistant.
If we can't afford to pay the wages of the coaches/players and provide something as simple as jerseys...training kit or even feed the people representing our country in athletics...then we have no business partaking in the competition
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SIASIA: WE DIDN'T DESERVE TO BE CHAMPIONS
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Monday Dec 14, 2015. 11:53
Nigeria U23 team coach Samson Siasia has dropped a bombshell by saying his team did not deserve to be champions of Africa if their preparations for the U23 AFCON were anything to go by.

Nigeria beat Algeria 2-1 in Saturday’s final to clinch the second edition of the tournament, which also doubles as a qualifier for the Olympics.

Former Super Eagles coach Siasia said his team’s build-up to the U23 AFCON was nothing to write home about.

“From how we prepared, we did not deserve to win anything. It was just a miracle we won,” lamented the coach.

“We had to manage everything, from kits to what have you, for the past one year.”

He added: "Motivating the boys was not easy at all, it was tough but thank God we survived it."

Siasia’s Dream Team VI were criticised after the first two games for conceding two goals in the second half after a convincing lead in the first half.

The coach was therefore selective in crediting those behind his team’s triumph.

"I dedicate the victory at the U23 championship to God and well-meaning Nigerians who were praying for us to succeed, but not the wicked ones who wanted me and the team to fail," Siasia said.
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There is a rampant and established culture of heartless corruption in any Public Service job in Nigeria. Whether they are elected, or appointed, there is an accepted level of entitlement that allows persons in positions of authority or given positions to literally pilfer from the public funds they are given access to. In many Institutions and government agencies and parastatalas, it is a free-for-all approach to the open larceny and the few principled are either shoved aside or ridiculed as fools. How could the NFF and Sports Ministry be so callous? Why should our young football ambassadors be ridiculed to where they have to wash and reuse kits? How soon before the EFCC guys ride into the NFF enclave and begin arrests and investigations?
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This is deplorable :(
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Shame on Pinnick and co. Rather inexcusable. Yet he got sponsors to fly 36 State FA chairmen to London
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anointed wrote:Shame on Pinnick and co. Rather inexcusable. Yet he got sponsors to fly 36 State FA chairmen to London
NFF congress is coming and he needs to be re-elected..
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john12 wrote:Based on my research that I've conducted in reference to this nff owing coaches salary, I think the plausible reasons of their lack of defrayment from nff is simply in the hands of the President allocating funds to the federation. However, I doubt ce forumers would give nff the benefit of doubt based on their past antecedent and also based on the fact that the federation president is always wandering and gallivanting at emirates stadium in USA. This is my opinion because I couldn't find any other logical reasons why nff would owe coach oliseh &assistant and also siaisia and assistant.
I am sorry i beg to differ..when you people make these sort of claims you deflect awsy from the real problem and the thieves get away with murder. It can be said that the only reason why there is still some element of accountability is because they are answereable to the government. Let me back this up with two simple questions
A. These bloody thieves got some sponsorship money from two privaye companies, knowing they have a mountain of problems demanding attention what did they do? 36 fa thieves boarded the plane for a jamboree trip to London in the name of going for summit.

B. What happened to the nike deal ? How come the team does not have training kits and jerseys...once again a contract signed to gratify individuals rather than the organisation and football.

This is not about government money,this is about a bunch of crooks using the organisation to serve their own personal interest.

What they have done with the money they got from those sponsorship tells a story....
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People go on as if pilfering of money is limited to government money alone,they are wrong. Even in private corporate bodies money is being stolen right into the church and mosques. The truth is the place is a corrupt cesspit indeed of massive cleansing.....deep surgical and brutal cleansing. How these thieves can get on board the plane to attend the summit with players allowances and welfare unattended to points to the decadence prevailent in the society. A lack of moral compass and leaders who see the position of leadership as an opportunity to serve self and self alone.
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100%Naija wrote:Total disgrace of a FA. Yet that thief Amaju Pinnick has the gall to open his rotten mouth and emit foul air. May he rot in hell. Stupid inconsiderate thief. One bloody jersey all tournament long and no pay. How were they supposed to feed. Fire burn the NFF. All of them. Nde Oshi
You can say all you have to say with some justification; but why spoil it all by calling him a thief just because you are frustrated?
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oloye wrote:People go on as if pilfering of money is limited to government money alone,they are wrong. Even in private corporate bodies money is being stolen right into the church and mosques. The truth is the place is a corrupt cesspit indeed of massive cleansing.....deep surgical and brutal cleansing. How these thieves can get on board the plane to attend the summit with players allowances and welfare unattended to points to the decadence prevailent in the society. A lack of moral compass and leaders who see the position of leadership as an opportunity to serve self and self alone.
Oloye, not defending anybody here, because NFF has traditionally been as corrupt as every other Nigerian institution. So until proven otherwise, they cannot be defended.
But wasn't it publicly stated that a bank (Zenith?) was responsible for sponsoring the FA heads' trip to the UK? Forgive me if I am wrong, but if this is correct, then it is wrong for us to use the UK trip as 'evidence' of NFF corruption vis-a-vis their inability to provide training equipment for the U23 team or even pay players' allowances.

If the bank is sponsoring officials to the UK, then it can only be used for that purpose and can not be diverted for other uses.

So why is everyone bringing up the trip as an 'example' of corruption?
It defeats the whole argument. Like I said, apologies if I have got this fact wrong.
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Damunk wrote:
oloye wrote:People go on as if pilfering of money is limited to government money alone,they are wrong. Even in private corporate bodies money is being stolen right into the church and mosques. The truth is the place is a corrupt cesspit indeed of massive cleansing.....deep surgical and brutal cleansing. How these thieves can get on board the plane to attend the summit with players allowances and welfare unattended to points to the decadence prevailent in the society. A lack of moral compass and leaders who see the position of leadership as an opportunity to serve self and self alone.
Oloye, not defending anybody here, because NFF has traditionally been as corrupt as every other Nigerian institution. So until proven otherwise, they cannot be defended.
But wasn't it publicly stated that a bank (Zenith?) was responsible for sponsoring the FA heads' trip to the UK? Forgive me if I am wrong, but if this is correct, then it is wrong for us to use the UK trip as 'evidence' of NFF corruption vis-a-vis their inability to provide training equipment for the U23 team or even pay players' allowances.

If the bank is sponsoring officials to the UK, then it can only be used for that purpose and can not be diverted for other uses.

So why is everyone bringing up the trip as an 'example' of corruption?
It defeats the whole argument. Like I said, apologies if I have got this fact wrong.
No my good friend, you are defending them simple. Travelling to London when crucial needs go unmet is corruption...those who have dealt with these guys would caution against giving them the benefit of doubt. Tell me any civilized society that would condone such nonsense...what did they go to do in London which they cannot do in Nigeria. Junketing with 36 executives on sponsorship money while the needs of the team go unmet is as corrupt as they come,you are free to explain and paint it with nice glossy paint.

There is a reason FIFA officials are being picked up like lice, some just for collecting expensive gift of wrist watches....I am sure we would say it is not corruption over here.if we cannot smell corruption we will never fix corruption. This is why i am not surprised our president said stealing is not corruption.

I don't care how long it has been there,the reason we usher in a new exco is to deal with past abuses not to use it as an excuse to give them a pass. We have lambasted the past executives why should we give these bozzos a pass?

An organisation on a lean budget, one that cannot meet its basic needs has no business flying 36 executives to anywhere , not even if they are summoned by FIFA. The word pressing matters and priorities readily comes to the fore, if they mean anything. How much did it cost them to fly to London and back, including the estacodes...? Why do we love to cherry pick when it comes to the issue of corruption. I have been there watched as these guys milk the system at the expense of the players. From the days when players receive $10 /day, while the officials receive $100, they have been milking the system. If your team cannot meet it's basic needs, if you are owing them allowances and you have not paid your coaches , then you have no business being in London with 36 executives whether they are sponsored by Zenith or by Omega!

To fight this corruption of a thing we need to go behind the physical stealing of money or mis-use of public funds. We need to look at the mindset ...that is the headquarters of corruption. That is why with each new executive that comes in nothing changes..the mindset is so flawed , almost beyond redemption.
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FA heads' trip may not be evidence of corruption, but it must qualify as evidence of dubious priorities, surely?
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oloye wrote:People go on as if pilfering of money is limited to government money alone,they are wrong. Even in private corporate bodies money is being stolen right into the church and mosques. The truth is the place is a corrupt cesspit indeed of massive cleansing.....deep surgical and brutal cleansing. How these thieves can get on board the plane to attend the summit with players allowances and welfare unattended to points to the decadence prevailent in the society. A lack of moral compass and leaders who see the position of leadership as an opportunity to serve self and self alone.
Oloye, not defending anybody here, because NFF has traditionally been as corrupt as every other Nigerian institution. So until proven otherwise, they cannot be defended.
But wasn't it publicly stated that a bank (Zenith?) was responsible for sponsoring the FA heads' trip to the UK? Forgive me if I am wrong, but if this is correct, then it is wrong for us to use the UK trip as 'evidence' of NFF corruption vis-a-vis their inability to provide training equipment for the U23 team or even pay players' allowances.

If the bank is sponsoring officials to the UK, then it can only be used for that purpose and can not be diverted for other uses.

So why is everyone bringing up the trip as an 'example' of corruption?
It defeats the whole argument. Like I said, apologies if I have got this fact wrong.
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Damunk wrote:
100%Naija wrote:Total disgrace of a FA. Yet that thief Amaju Pinnick has the gall to open his rotten mouth and emit foul air. May he rot in hell. Stupid inconsiderate thief. One bloody jersey all tournament long and no pay. How were they supposed to feed. Fire burn the NFF. All of them. Nde Oshi
You can say all you have to say with some justification; but why spoil it all by calling him a thief just because you are frustrated?
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Biko, tell us what he stole and we will agree with you.
Damunk please go away. I've said it here before that we can tell those that host and hangout with these seasoned criminals while "abroad" by their reaction to incidents of this nature.

You have coaches giving players allowances from their pocket, players washing used jerseys night after a game in preparation for the next game, feeding of players and coaching staff left to unpaid individuals, not to mention, attempting to fire a coach for bringing the harsh condition he's (and his team) had to battle before the first ball is kicked...and all you have to say to me is what? :roll: We are clearly wired differently.

This is exactly why coaches engage in dodgy side businesses to survive. No wonder Keshi said fuk it, and allowed his team to fall apart right after winning the ANC.

Pinnick and his gang are thieves. Cold, heartless and Shameless thieves. This is not an isolated incident. If Nigeria cannot afford to provide basic amenities for its representatives, then we have no business participating in competitions. I complained when he went to Chile to "welcome or congratulate" the boys while people were yet to be paid. We had two football events taking place and this animal elected to go watch Arsenal. If it walks like a duck, behaves like a duck and smells like a duck; it is a m*f*ck!ng duck.
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You shouldn't be paid to represent your country.....money hungry *kindpeople*....this is why African teams fail at the top level they are more concern about getting paid than representing their countries....look at the embarrassing pictures of Ghana at last world cup
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Rather than always blaming nff and the nff president (I know they are first in line for abuse target) but why not also blame or offer solution to the root of these issues/problem – ie the failed Nigeria system and over dependent on government funds. Governors cannot pay salaries, 75% Nigeria clubs owe their players wages, all other sports in Nigeria are surviving from Hand to mouth, etc – are these all for nff to solve??
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100%Naija wrote:
Damunk wrote:
100%Naija wrote:Total disgrace of a FA. Yet that thief Amaju Pinnick has the gall to open his rotten mouth and emit foul air. May he rot in hell. Stupid inconsiderate thief. One bloody jersey all tournament long and no pay. How were they supposed to feed. Fire burn the NFF. All of them. Nde Oshi
You can say all you have to say with some justification; but why spoil it all by calling him a thief just because you are frustrated?
Na so you dey do?
Biko, tell us what he stole and we will agree with you.
Damunk please go away. I've said it here before that we can tell those that host and hangout with these seasoned criminals while "abroad" by their reaction to incidents of this nature.

You have coaches giving players allowances from their pocket, players washing used jerseys night after a game in preparation for the next game, feeding of players and coaching staff left to unpaid individuals, not to mention, attempting to fire a coach for bringing the harsh condition he's (and his team) had to battle before the first ball is kicked...and all you have to say to me is what? :roll: We are clearly wired differently.

This is exactly why coaches engage in dodgy side businesses to survive. No wonder Keshi said fuk it, and allowed his team to fall apart right after winning the ANC.

Pinnick and his gang are thieves. Cold, heartless and Shameless thieves. This is not an isolated incident. If Nigeria cannot afford to provide basic amenities for its representatives, then we have no business participating in competitions. I complained when he went to Chile to "welcome or congratulate" the boys while people were yet to be paid. We had two football events taking place and this animal elected to go watch Arsenal. If it walks like a duck, behaves like a duck and smells like a duck; it is a m*f*ck!ng duck.
Kpom! The NFF should have insisted on the sponsorship money to go towards the team first. Even if the national teams had no financial problems and they had to go on a retreat why not lower cost locations like Ghana or Kenya or even Greece (if they had to go to Europe). Absolutely unacceptable! The players are the reason why we follow football. They should be the VIPs.
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ogiso wrote:FA heads' trip may not be evidence of corruption, but it must qualify as evidence of dubious priorities, surely?
Now you are talking. It definitely does point to that.
When, in our frustration we conflate issues, we simply undermine ourselves. This is what lawyers thrive on, and is the reason why so many of our corrupt public officials simply walk away from the courts, laughing all the way to the bank.
If we wish to make a case, then we need to be crystal clear what we are saying and what we are not saying. We need to get our damn facts right.

The case can probably be made against the NFF and its corrupt practises without introducing poorly researched, half-baked information. 36 FA heads on a 'junket' to the UK sponsored by a bank is NOT corruption. Lack of priorities, yes. Not 'corruption'. In who's court? That's all I am getting at.

I cant be shouting corruption up and down the place when I don;t even know what I am talking about. I sincerely thought they used NFF money to travel abroad from the way people here were screaming 'corruption' and citing the trip as evidence.

This is not 'giving excuses'. It is simply doing our own due dilligence and ensuring we NAIL those that are guilty instead of giving them the chance to walk away laughing. EFCC has been doing this for years, to our chagrin. But it seems we are all from the same stock. We shout but are too lazy (or too corrupt) to get the damn facts right.
That's all I am saying. :idea:

And I am not giving the NFF the thumbs up. But I am just as tired of corrupt officials walking away from the courts (because those that are in charge of gathering the evidence prefer to go to the beer parlours rather than the accounts departmments) as I am of those who simply shout corruption but cant be bothered to differentiate fact from fiction.
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oloye wrote:People go on as if pilfering of money is limited to government money alone,they are wrong. Even in private corporate bodies money is being stolen right into the church and mosques. The truth is the place is a corrupt cesspit indeed of massive cleansing.....deep surgical and brutal cleansing. How these thieves can get on board the plane to attend the summit with players allowances and welfare unattended to points to the decadence prevailent in the society. A lack of moral compass and leaders who see the position of leadership as an opportunity to serve self and self alone.
Oloye, not defending anybody here, because NFF has traditionally been as corrupt as every other Nigerian institution. So until proven otherwise, they cannot be defended.
But wasn't it publicly stated that a bank (Zenith?) was responsible for sponsoring the FA heads' trip to the UK? Forgive me if I am wrong, but if this is correct, then it is wrong for us to use the UK trip as 'evidence' of NFF corruption vis-a-vis their inability to provide training equipment for the U23 team or even pay players' allowances.

If the bank is sponsoring officials to the UK, then it can only be used for that purpose and can not be diverted for other uses.

So why is everyone bringing up the trip as an 'example' of corruption?
It defeats the whole argument. Like I said, apologies if I have got this fact wrong.
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Damunk wrote:Now you are talking. It definitely does point to that.
When, in our frustration we conflate issues, we simply undermine ourselves. This is what lawyers thrive on, and is the reason why so many of our corrupt public officials simply walk away from the courts, laughing all the way to the bank.
If we wish to make a case, then we need to be crystal clear what we are saying and what we are not saying. We need to get our damn facts right.

The case can probably be made against the NFF and its corrupt practises without introducing poorly researched, half-baked information. 36 FA heads on a 'junket' to the UK sponsored by a bank is NOT corruption. Lack of priorities, yes. Not 'corruption'. In who's court? That's all I am getting at.

I cant be shouting corruption up and down the place when I don;t even know what I am talking about. I sincerely thought they used NFF money to travel abroad from the way people here were screaming 'corruption' and citing the trip as evidence.

This is not 'giving excuses'. It is simply doing our own due dilligence and ensuring we NAIL those that are guilty instead of giving them the chance to walk away laughing. EFCC has been doing this for years, to our chagrin. But it seems we are all from the same stock. We shout but are too lazy (or too corrupt) to get the damn facts right.
That's all I am saying. :idea:

And I am not giving the NFF the thumbs up. But I am just as tired of corrupt officials walking away from the courts (because those that are in charge of gathering the evidence prefer to go to the beer parlours rather than the accounts departmments) as I am of those who simply shout corruption but cant be bothered to differentiate fact from fiction.
ogiso wrote:FA heads' trip may not be evidence of corruption, but it must qualify as evidence of dubious priorities, surely?
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oloye wrote:People go on as if pilfering of money is limited to government money alone,they are wrong. Even in private corporate bodies money is being stolen right into the church and mosques. The truth is the place is a corrupt cesspit indeed of massive cleansing.....deep surgical and brutal cleansing. How these thieves can get on board the plane to attend the summit with players allowances and welfare unattended to points to the decadence prevailent in the society. A lack of moral compass and leaders who see the position of leadership as an opportunity to serve self and self alone.
Oloye, not defending anybody here, because NFF has traditionally been as corrupt as every other Nigerian institution. So until proven otherwise, they cannot be defended.
But wasn't it publicly stated that a bank (Zenith?) was responsible for sponsoring the FA heads' trip to the UK? Forgive me if I am wrong, but if this is correct, then it is wrong for us to use the UK trip as 'evidence' of NFF corruption vis-a-vis their inability to provide training equipment for the U23 team or even pay players' allowances.

If the bank is sponsoring officials to the UK, then it can only be used for that purpose and can not be diverted for other uses.

So why is everyone bringing up the trip as an 'example' of corruption?
It defeats the whole argument. Like I said, apologies if I have got this fact wrong.
Damunk the fact that it was sponsorship money doesn't mean it was not corrupt. The FA are custodians of the team and to agree a deal with a sponsor to go to a meaningless trip to London when the players are coaches are underfunded is at best a conflict of interest and abuse of position. The NFF could have insisted that the sponsorship money is utilized towards the funding of the team. That is what they should do in their fiduciary position as custodians of Nigerian football. It is a clear abuse of trust which is as serious as corruption.
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Benedict Iroha wrote:You shouldn't be paid to represent your country.....money hungry kind people....this is why African teams fail at the top level they are more concern about getting paid than representing their countries....look at the embarrassing pictures of Ghana at last world cup
Exactly bro! Going into WC 2014, the German bonus system was Euros 50K (q-final), Eu100K (s-final), Eu150K (final) and Eu 300K (for winning the WC), which perhaps explains why the failed miserably... oh wait :roll:
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