Cybereagles

The dribble is a dying art in football.

It started a slow but steady death when carpenters who strayed into the sport, perhaps recognizing their own inadequacies, chose to describe it as "tricks".

In turn, artists- the supremely gifted, like JJ Okocha got classified as "tricky players", unpredictable, capable of occasional genius, but mostly inconsistent...

However, IMO, the dribble as an art is an individual technique. This is different from the dribble as a running technique, executed by runners, like Rashford for instance who become ineffective, when space to run declines... Hence my description of them as PRIMARILY runners.

Here is a video of Top 10 Young Dribblers in 2017/18:



Who is the RUNNER (as in dribble run);

Who is the DRIBBLER?

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And BTW, Malcolm is a dribbler, NOT a runner.

He is the breaker of chains and the scourge of low blocks...

That's how you differentiate...

For as long as King Leo is within the game, the dribble is alive.

txj wrote:And BTW, Malcolm is a dribbler, NOT a runner.

He is the breaker of chains and the scourge of low blocks...

That's how you differentiate...

I see it as someone who can operate in tight spaces, someone who can do more than kick and run.

Coach wrote:For as long as King Leo is within the game, the dribble is alive.

And when he is no more?

As long as the English cannot produce a real dribbler of value, it will continue to come under assault...

Quickest way to create a goal-scoring chance? Dribble? Nonsense, win a corner. Courtesy of Professor Emeritus Samwell Aloysius Allardyce OBE.

If we are analyzing dribbling, we need a baseline for comparison, a control experiment to test the hypothesis, a visual IUPAC to set the terms of measurement. Also, there is never a bad time for an Okocha video, is there?

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The Eagle wrote:If we are analyzing dribbling, we need a baseline for comparison, a control experiment to test the hypothesis, a visual IUPAC to set the terms of measurement. Also, there is never a bad time for an Okocha video, is there?

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There are dribblers.

There are runners who dribble while on the run

Then there are dribblers who put their superior individual technique to the benefit of the team game...

“But now we need to make sure he finds the right moment to pass the ball—and dribbling is not for dribbling, it’s to change the situation in a better way and then to pass the ball.

“But it’s easier to train that than to show somebody how to dribble, which is quite natural. It’s cool.

Jurgen Klopp on the Liverpool Academy player Curtis Jones...

achuzia-the-air-raid wrote:

The Eagle wrote:If we are analyzing dribbling, we need a baseline for comparison, a control experiment to test the hypothesis, a visual IUPAC to set the terms of measurement. Also, there is never a bad time for an Okocha video, is there?

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Kai, Iwobi suppose be our current JJ, but his WC experience was a step backwards for his development!

He really didn't get much playing time, which is no fault of his. I believe Iwobi could have made more of an impact if he was moved to a central role against Croatia and if he was brought on earlier against Argentina.

maceo4 wrote:

achuzia-the-air-raid wrote:

The Eagle wrote:If we are analyzing dribbling, we need a baseline for comparison, a control experiment to test the hypothesis, a visual IUPAC to set the terms of measurement. Also, there is never a bad time for an Okocha video, is there?

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Kai, Iwobi suppose be our current JJ, but his WC experience was a step backwards for his development!

txj wrote:There are dribblers.

There are runners who dribble while on the run

Then there are dribblers who put their superior individual technique to the benefit of the team game...

In the modern game if you can dribble... and run you are one hell of a player (King Leo is the best example of this)
Because most of his dribbles were in attacking positions he was devastatingly effective for his team in terms of scoring and creating goals.
Its not enough nowadays to just have dribbling skill. Coutinho developed his striking ability to a new level in order to open up teams who put up defensive shields outside the box.

txj -What do you think of Curtis Jones and Rafa Camacho? These boys have looked very good in Pre season

heavyd wrote:

txj wrote:There are dribblers.

There are runners who dribble while on the run

Then there are dribblers who put their superior individual technique to the benefit of the team game...

In the modern game if you can dribble... and run you are one hell of a player (King Leo is the best example of this)
Because most of his dribbles were in attacking positions he was devastatingly effective for his team in terms of scoring and creating goals.
Its not enough nowadays to just have dribbling skill. Coutinho developed his striking ability to a new level in order to open up teams who put up defensive shields outside the box.

txj -What do you think of Curtis Jones and Rafa Camacho? These boys have looked very good in Pre season

Interesting prospects, but both have quite some ways to go.

Jones has the mentality to break through quickly...

Dribble? No need, drop the shoulder, shift the ball outside, open up a yard of space and sprint. Destination, touch line. Intention, cross. Aim, far stick. As gorgeous as a dribble might be, there are few things that command as much drool as raw pace and cross fizzed into the box. Centre-forward going up with the keeper, runners from deep Lamparding into the box, winger coming in off the contralateral flank to get his head on anything at the farpost.

Word of mention, wonderfully flamboyant video, flicks, tricks and all the inverse proportionality expected, as far as end product is concerned. Adama Traore, one of the greatest custodians of ginga, mastered the first few chapters where keepy-uppies and stepovers were done with mangoes and pawpaws, but had seemingly skipped the part where the world cups were won. End product. For each of the above, how many assists? Few have managed to transform their playground football into an effective weapon. Leroy Sane should be an example for all.

Dribbling is less effective in the modern game where most players are super fit, fast, agile, and defences are well drilled and organised. Even against inferior opposition, defences will just drop deep to the edge of their own box and not allow an excellent dribbler on the opposition get close enough to their goal to do any damage. There is a reason why we see fewer players of the Okocha, Ronaldo, Djalminha, Denilson, Aimar, d'Alessandro, Giggs, Kanchelskis type nowadays.

Coach wrote:For as long as King Leo is within the game, the dribble is alive.

^And equally why the true genius of King Leo must be appreciated. With a degree of confidence, one will say, there won’t be a finer dribbler of the ball in this life or the next.

For me Neymar is the best pure dribbler ìn the modern game. Messi is so so. For me dribbling is also about aesthetics. Its gotta be pleasing on the eye and Messi doesn't dribble in that way whereas Neymar is poetry in motion

Coach wrote:^And equally why the true genius of King Leo must be appreciated. With a degree of confidence, one will say, there won’t be a finer dribbler of the ball in this life or the next.

Same Leo that choke at the world cup?

wiseone wrote:Dribbling is less effective in the modern game where most players are super fit, fast, agile, and defences are well drilled and organised. Even against inferior opposition, defences will just drop deep to the edge of their own box and not allow an excellent dribbler on the opposition get close enough to their goal to do any damage. There is a reason why we see fewer players of the Okocha, Ronaldo, Djalminha, Denilson, Aimar, d'Alessandro, Giggs, Kanchelskis type nowadays.

Coach wrote:For as long as King Leo is within the game, the dribble is alive.

I completely disagree. It is coaches like Mourinho and of course the EPL who have killed dribbling. Yes defenses are more organized and players are fitter etc but au contraire, any player who can beat his man in tight spaces is gold. This is why to me Messi has been so effective for Barca since most park the bus against barca.

Most are not talking about this but with Belguim was seating deep against Brazil after taking the lead but Douglas Costa still found ways to beat his man. Had his final product been better Belguim would have taken a serious beating. This honestly showed me that a tight defense can be carved open by a tricky winger. Imagine that was Figo whose final product was excellent instead of Costa?


FYI Rashford is NOT a dribbler.

Samora Machel wrote:For me Neymar is the best pure dribbler ìn the modern game. Messi is so so. For me dribbling is also about aesthetics. Its gotta be pleasing on the eye and Messi doesn't dribble in that way whereas Neymar is poetry in motion

Agreed, I actually believe Messi's dribbling has declined as they play him more and more in the number 10.

Neymar best closely followed by Douglas Costa. Mbappe too is quite tricky.

King Leo, Igwe I. Simple. Granted time has taken that pace beyond the first 6 yards, but as far as close controlled dribbling, none come close. There are certainly better circus acts, many great magicians capable of wonderous tricks, but as far as dribbling in its pure, unadulterated form, Igweeeeeeeeeee!!!!!