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But really, that the normal way small teams play in African football. It's not a new thing. All big teams are going the same thing, but they still play good football. Did you watch the 1st leg of Mali v. Kenya, or Burkina v. Djibouti or Algeria v. Djibouti or SA v. Ethiopia?Tobi17 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:17 pmThat's because both teams are actually coming out to play open football without either side sitting back, unfortunately Nigeria will have to deal with playing against park the bus minnow teams that will rely on momentum and rare luck like we saw against CAR in Lagos.
Try and rewatch the Senegal matches or Morocco. It's the same thing but they still win with huge margins and play beautiful football.
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I agree, but you will never get beautiful attacking football from a Rohr coached team... that's why it's clear Rohr isn't the right man for this team considering our attacking quality. The general rule of thumb is that we just endure him till AFCON starts and if he fails to meet the target (either win or get to the final of the AFCON), then it's lights out for him.lacidi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:21 pmBut really, that the normal way small teams play in African football. It's not a new thing. All big teams are going the same thing, but they still play good football. Did you watch the 1st leg of Mali v. Kenya, or Burkina v. Djibouti or Algeria v. Djibouti or SA v. Ethiopia?Tobi17 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:17 pmThat's because both teams are actually coming out to play open football without either side sitting back, unfortunately Nigeria will have to deal with playing against park the bus minnow teams that will rely on momentum and rare luck like we saw against CAR in Lagos.
Try and rewatch the Senegal matches or Morocco. It's the same thing but they still win with huge margins and play beautiful football.
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Cape Verde too close for comfort. They have 7 points while we have 9 points. We must win our next game and win the group. No more slips.
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No dude it will be stupid to fire him after afcon and throw a new coach straight into the playoffs.Tobi17 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:27 pmI agree, but you will never get beautiful attacking football from a Rohr coached team... that's why it's clear Rohr isn't the right man for this team considering our attacking quality. The general rule of thumb is that we just endure him till AFCON starts and if he fails to meet the target (either win or get to the final of the AFCON), then it's lights out for him.lacidi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:21 pmBut really, that the normal way small teams play in African football. It's not a new thing. All big teams are going the same thing, but they still play good football. Did you watch the 1st leg of Mali v. Kenya, or Burkina v. Djibouti or Algeria v. Djibouti or SA v. Ethiopia?Tobi17 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:17 pmThat's because both teams are actually coming out to play open football without either side sitting back, unfortunately Nigeria will have to deal with playing against park the bus minnow teams that will rely on momentum and rare luck like we saw against CAR in Lagos.
Try and rewatch the Senegal matches or Morocco. It's the same thing but they still win with huge margins and play beautiful football.
He must be sacked NOW.
that way the new coach has some time to figure things out, its either now or never.
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True, only if we have a better goal difference since our final game is against Cape Verde.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:20 pmAs close as it appears, mathematically 2 draws will win the group for us.
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Yesterday, Hosanna. Today Crucify Himvancity eagle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:08 pmNo dude it will be stupid to fire him after afcon and throw a new coach straight into the playoffs.Tobi17 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:27 pmI agree, but you will never get beautiful attacking football from a Rohr coached team... that's why it's clear Rohr isn't the right man for this team considering our attacking quality. The general rule of thumb is that we just endure him till AFCON starts and if he fails to meet the target (either win or get to the final of the AFCON), then it's lights out for him.lacidi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:21 pmBut really, that the normal way small teams play in African football. It's not a new thing. All big teams are going the same thing, but they still play good football. Did you watch the 1st leg of Mali v. Kenya, or Burkina v. Djibouti or Algeria v. Djibouti or SA v. Ethiopia?Tobi17 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:17 pmThat's because both teams are actually coming out to play open football without either side sitting back, unfortunately Nigeria will have to deal with playing against park the bus minnow teams that will rely on momentum and rare luck like we saw against CAR in Lagos.
Try and rewatch the Senegal matches or Morocco. It's the same thing but they still win with huge margins and play beautiful football.
He must be sacked NOW.
that way the new coach has some time to figure things out, its either now or never.
Same person insulting people who called for Rohr's sack???
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I agree with you, but we both know NFF can't afford to sack him right now unless they somehow find a way to pay off his salary and whatever contractual benefits he's due for. The only way Rohr will be gone without questions is if he fails to meet the target of either winning the AFCON, or reaching the final.vancity eagle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:08 pmNo dude it will be stupid to fire him after afcon and throw a new coach straight into the playoffs.Tobi17 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:27 pmI agree, but you will never get beautiful attacking football from a Rohr coached team... that's why it's clear Rohr isn't the right man for this team considering our attacking quality. The general rule of thumb is that we just endure him till AFCON starts and if he fails to meet the target (either win or get to the final of the AFCON), then it's lights out for him.lacidi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:21 pmBut really, that the normal way small teams play in African football. It's not a new thing. All big teams are going the same thing, but they still play good football. Did you watch the 1st leg of Mali v. Kenya, or Burkina v. Djibouti or Algeria v. Djibouti or SA v. Ethiopia?Tobi17 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:17 pmThat's because both teams are actually coming out to play open football without either side sitting back, unfortunately Nigeria will have to deal with playing against park the bus minnow teams that will rely on momentum and rare luck like we saw against CAR in Lagos.
Try and rewatch the Senegal matches or Morocco. It's the same thing but they still win with huge margins and play beautiful football.
He must be sacked NOW.
that way the new coach has some time to figure things out, its either now or never.
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A traditionally low scoring CV team will have to win by a 4 goal margin given we have a 3 GD advantage plus away win (for head to head when tied on GD). My point is there’s no gloom given we should be able to get a result anywhere against Liberia and even if it comes down to the last game, our destiny remains in our hands. If our boys want to go to Qatar, they know what to do.Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:18 pmTrue, only if we have a better goal difference since our final game is against Cape Verde.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:20 pmAs close as it appears, mathematically 2 draws will win the group for us.
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Hope you're aware that the last two games to qualify from this group is next month?vancity eagle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:08 pm No dude it will be stupid to fire him after afcon and throw a new coach straight into the playoffs.
He must be sacked NOW.
that way the new coach has some time to figure things out, its either now or never.
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He obviously doesn’t.Orion wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:36 pmHope you're aware that the last two games to qualify from this group is next month?vancity eagle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:08 pm No dude it will be stupid to fire him after afcon and throw a new coach straight into the playoffs.
He must be sacked NOW.
that way the new coach has some time to figure things out, its either now or never.
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Same with Zambia vs Equatorial Guinea...
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Gotti,
Because those teams you mentioned actually came out to play football, the Liberia vs CV as well as Zambia vs EQ was entertaining to watch cause it was open end to end stuff. Against Nigeria these teams just park the molue bus, play some ugly football and rough up our boys... and Nigeria traditionally hasn't been known to do so well against these type of teams even as far back as our '94Golden generation It's hard to play attractive football against a low block team that just hunker down with 9 men and hoof the ball upfront... such "Park the bus and insha Allah" tactics makes for some boring football. And I'm not even trying to cover for Rohr as I'm in the same camp with every rational thinking Nigerian fan that sees how Rohr’s coaching and management is doing some serious injustice to the quality of the team.
That been said, it's obvious Rohr is severely limiting the quality of these team with his very minimal and overly cautious football.. when I see how teams like Algeria, Senegal, Morocco, CIV, heck even Mali break down minnow teams that park the bus with some beautiful attacking football and still run up the scores on them, it shreds my soul to imagine how lethal we would have been under a superb coach... if ONLY NFF could get their sh#t together and pay this man off!
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Fellas how are other African FA’s able to afford to pay for good coaches yet Nigeria struggles??? A few years ago Cameroon employed Seedorf
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Omeruo was the left centre back. Collins was the leftwing back.deanotito wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:02 pmOk, but tell me this. I'm not super sure what formation Rohr was playing, because with Collins and Omeruo both present, I wasn't sure who the 3rd center back was- Collins or Omeruo. If Collins was the 3rd center back, then it means that Omeruo was the wingback and thus Simon spent 90 minutes giving him defensive cover, and producing nothing offensively.waka-man wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:58 pmI actually agree. As part of a front three, he’s not good enough. But I’m the system we played today, he’s the best we have, and he’s pretty good.
Me ehn, I think one has to construct a team in a way that gives you advantages. Don't waste spots. Are there some things Simon does well? Yes, but he's so limited offensively that he hurts the team.
But sort of like Keshi used to do where on side of his midfield would often make a 5th defender (the surprise tactic that let Osage attack from a “hidden” defensive position against Bosnia), Collins was clearly asked to act as a fourth defender when Awaziem was dragged too far right, as the main goal at this point was to not concede.
But clearly, Omeruo was the LCB and Collins the LWB.
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Re: CAR 0 vs Nigeria 2
You guys are deceiving yourselves. If Cape Verde beats Nigeria in Lagos they will qualify. They are only 2pts behind.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:39 pmA traditionally low scoring CV team will have to win by a 4 goal margin given we have a 3 GD advantage plus away win (for head to head when tied on GD). My point is there’s no gloom given we should be able to get a result anywhere against Liberia and even if it comes down to the last game, our destiny remains in our hands. If our boys want to go to Qatar, they know what to do.Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:18 pmTrue, only if we have a better goal difference since our final game is against Cape Verde.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:20 pmAs close as it appears, mathematically 2 draws will win the group for us.
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...will not happen given the shame CAR showed then in Lagos. Hopefully a full compliment of players will be present.Robotnik wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:23 amYou guys are deceiving yourselves. If Cape Verde beats Nigeria in Lagos they will qualify. They are only 2pts behind.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:39 pmA traditionally low scoring CV team will have to win by a 4 goal margin given we have a 3 GD advantage plus away win (for head to head when tied on GD). My point is there’s no gloom given we should be able to get a result anywhere against Liberia and even if it comes down to the last game, our destiny remains in our hands. If our boys want to go to Qatar, they know what to do.Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:18 pmTrue, only if we have a better goal difference since our final game is against Cape Verde.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:20 pmAs close as it appears, mathematically 2 draws will win the group for us.
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Robotnik wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:23 amYou guys are deceiving yourselves. If Cape Verde beats Nigeria in Lagos they will qualify. They are only 2pts behind.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:39 pmA traditionally low scoring CV team will have to win by a 4 goal margin given we have a 3 GD advantage plus away win (for head to head when tied on GD). My point is there’s no gloom given we should be able to get a result anywhere against Liberia and even if it comes down to the last game, our destiny remains in our hands. If our boys want to go to Qatar, they know what to do.Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:18 pmTrue, only if we have a better goal difference since our final game is against Cape Verde.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:20 pmAs close as it appears, mathematically 2 draws will win the group for us.
We have GD advantage of +3
And these are the remaining matches in the group
11 Nov 2021
Cape Verde v CAR
Liberia v Nigeria
14 Nov 2021
Nigeria v Cape Verde
Liberia v CAR
We just have to beat Liberia and we will be fine. If we can't beat Liberia, then we don't have any business at the world cup.
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you are right brother if we can not beat liberia we dont have business in world cup .and the match will be play in accra.we hard enough of going to world cup and we can not make impact let the other country go try in africa.Lolly wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:38 pmRobotnik wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:23 amYou guys are deceiving yourselves. If Cape Verde beats Nigeria in Lagos they will qualify. They are only 2pts behind.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:39 pmA traditionally low scoring CV team will have to win by a 4 goal margin given we have a 3 GD advantage plus away win (for head to head when tied on GD). My point is there’s no gloom given we should be able to get a result anywhere against Liberia and even if it comes down to the last game, our destiny remains in our hands. If our boys want to go to Qatar, they know what to do.Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:18 pmTrue, only if we have a better goal difference since our final game is against Cape Verde.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:20 pmAs close as it appears, mathematically 2 draws will win the group for us.
We have GD advantage of +3
And these are the remaining matches in the group
11 Nov 2021
Cape Verde v CAR
Liberia v Nigeria
14 Nov 2021
Nigeria v Cape Verde
Liberia v CAR
We just have to beat Liberia and we will be fine. If we can't beat Liberia, then we don't have any business at the world cup.
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A win against Liberia takes us to 12 points. Cape Verde can still get to 13 points (if they win their last two games). It's very unlikely they'll win in Nigeria, but mathematically they can still qualify even if we win in Liberia. Or am I missing something?Lolly wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:38 pmRobotnik wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:23 amYou guys are deceiving yourselves. If Cape Verde beats Nigeria in Lagos they will qualify. They are only 2pts behind.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:39 pmA traditionally low scoring CV team will have to win by a 4 goal margin given we have a 3 GD advantage plus away win (for head to head when tied on GD). My point is there’s no gloom given we should be able to get a result anywhere against Liberia and even if it comes down to the last game, our destiny remains in our hands. If our boys want to go to Qatar, they know what to do.Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:18 pmTrue, only if we have a better goal difference since our final game is against Cape Verde.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:20 pmAs close as it appears, mathematically 2 draws will win the group for us.
We have GD advantage of +3
And these are the remaining matches in the group
11 Nov 2021
Cape Verde v CAR
Liberia v Nigeria
14 Nov 2021
Nigeria v Cape Verde
Liberia v CAR
We just have to beat Liberia and we will be fine. If we can't beat Liberia, then we don't have any business at the world cup.
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yeah you are right if cape verde beat CAR AND NIGERIA in NIGERIA which is possible ,anyway the country that want more we qualifier ,i hope NFF make sure the players get at least full 3 days to prepare not like against CAR in Nigeria because it just like our players lack nore energy which i think affect them.Orion wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:25 pmA win against Liberia takes us to 12 points. Cape Verde can still get to 13 points (if they win their last two games). It's very unlikely they'll win in Nigeria, but mathematically they can still qualify even if we win in Liberia. Or am I missing something?Lolly wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:38 pmRobotnik wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:23 amYou guys are deceiving yourselves. If Cape Verde beats Nigeria in Lagos they will qualify. They are only 2pts behind.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:39 pmA traditionally low scoring CV team will have to win by a 4 goal margin given we have a 3 GD advantage plus away win (for head to head when tied on GD). My point is there’s no gloom given we should be able to get a result anywhere against Liberia and even if it comes down to the last game, our destiny remains in our hands. If our boys want to go to Qatar, they know what to do.Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:18 pmTrue, only if we have a better goal difference since our final game is against Cape Verde.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:20 pmAs close as it appears, mathematically 2 draws will win the group for us.
We have GD advantage of +3
And these are the remaining matches in the group
11 Nov 2021
Cape Verde v CAR
Liberia v Nigeria
14 Nov 2021
Nigeria v Cape Verde
Liberia v CAR
We just have to beat Liberia and we will be fine. If we can't beat Liberia, then we don't have any business at the world cup.
thanks
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I think sometimes we go into an overdrive analysis. Nigeria clearly has the best players in this group and on the usual day should dominate and win. The only unknown is psychological readiness and that is the responsibility of the managers. These issues can happen anywhere even in individual-based sport like tennis let alone ream sport involving such complicates as a group of 11 men. This is why a good manager matters.delisyomie don wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:38 pmyeah you are right if cape verde beat CAR AND NIGERIA in NIGERIA which is possible ,anyway the country that want more we qualifier ,i hope NFF make sure the players get at least full 3 days to prepare not like against CAR in Nigeria because it just like our players lack nore energy which i think affect them.Orion wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:25 pmA win against Liberia takes us to 12 points. Cape Verde can still get to 13 points (if they win their last two games). It's very unlikely they'll win in Nigeria, but mathematically they can still qualify even if we win in Liberia. Or am I missing something?Lolly wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:38 pmRobotnik wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:23 amYou guys are deceiving yourselves. If Cape Verde beats Nigeria in Lagos they will qualify. They are only 2pts behind.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:39 pmA traditionally low scoring CV team will have to win by a 4 goal margin given we have a 3 GD advantage plus away win (for head to head when tied on GD). My point is there’s no gloom given we should be able to get a result anywhere against Liberia and even if it comes down to the last game, our destiny remains in our hands. If our boys want to go to Qatar, they know what to do.Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:18 pmTrue, only if we have a better goal difference since our final game is against Cape Verde.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:20 pm
As close as it appears, mathematically 2 draws will win the group for us.
We have GD advantage of +3
And these are the remaining matches in the group
11 Nov 2021
Cape Verde v CAR
Liberia v Nigeria
14 Nov 2021
Nigeria v Cape Verde
Liberia v CAR
We just have to beat Liberia and we will be fine. If we can't beat Liberia, then we don't have any business at the world cup.
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I meant beating Liberia would put us in the driving seat. And am confident Cape Verde won't beat us in Lagos, I predict a draw the way we have been playing in Lagos.Orion wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:25 pmA win against Liberia takes us to 12 points. Cape Verde can still get to 13 points (if they win their last two games). It's very unlikely they'll win in Nigeria, but mathematically they can still qualify even if we win in Liberia. Or am I missing something?Lolly wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:38 pmRobotnik wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:23 amYou guys are deceiving yourselves. If Cape Verde beats Nigeria in Lagos they will qualify. They are only 2pts behind.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:39 pmA traditionally low scoring CV team will have to win by a 4 goal margin given we have a 3 GD advantage plus away win (for head to head when tied on GD). My point is there’s no gloom given we should be able to get a result anywhere against Liberia and even if it comes down to the last game, our destiny remains in our hands. If our boys want to go to Qatar, they know what to do.Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:18 pmTrue, only if we have a better goal difference since our final game is against Cape Verde.green4life wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:20 pmAs close as it appears, mathematically 2 draws will win the group for us.
We have GD advantage of +3
And these are the remaining matches in the group
11 Nov 2021
Cape Verde v CAR
Liberia v Nigeria
14 Nov 2021
Nigeria v Cape Verde
Liberia v CAR
We just have to beat Liberia and we will be fine. If we can't beat Liberia, then we don't have any business at the world cup.
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