wanaj0 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:38 pm
Damunk wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:18 pm
wanaj0 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:05 pm
oscar52 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:20 pm
wanaj0 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:27 pm
oscar52 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:27 am
If they want to keep any integrity in the role, Salisu should stay far away from the team. We know most coaches from developing countries likely do it
but at least when they are caught, we should at least save face and keep him away and not make ourselves a laughing stock.
When they are caught they should be PUNISHED and the man has rightfully served his punishment. His life MUST not end because of the CRIME not after serving the FULL PUNISHMENT. If he has not served his punishment it will be a different story!
Chief I disagree.
Its like saying a cashier caught stealing should be put in charge of handling cash again after he/she is punished. Its an unnecessary risk and one that if the cashier steals again, the store manager can be sued successfully for gross negligence. One of the problem in Nigeria is we dont treat govt or nonprofits entities like profit centers enough, if we did no board of directors will allow someone caught taking bribe to lead the business again.
There is no RULE about that. The important thing is to confirm that the person has shown remorse and also ensure that you have mitigations in [place to ensure that he is not exposed to such. What organisations tend to do is to improve on their controls.
You can't say a cashier whose only job is to handle money should not work again for life! You can't say a driver who killed someone should never drive again!
The reason why he was not given a LIFE time ban is because he is expected to return to play similar role after he has served his punishment. The punishment is to serve as deterrent to others and also to CORRECT him!
People do make mistake (errors of judgement) and
that should not be the END of their life!
This is what I was referring to when I said earlier that
Nigerians will use ‘
legalese and whataboutisms’ etc etc to defend just about any position they choose to, no matter the circumstances.
Add to that your regular straw man strategy because nobody has ever suggested Yusuf should never work again or that it should be “the end of his life”.
Alhaji, take am easy. That is YOUR argument, nobody else’s.
You are probably a decent chap but you sabi argue untenable argument.
It is always a strawman,
untenable once it is against your views!
It is always a straw man because it ALWAYS seems to be your basis of argument.
SHOW US where anybody has said he should never work again, or that it should be “the end of his life”
Show us.
I dare you to.
You set up these silly points nobody is making and begin to vigorously argue against them! What else do you call that?
It is not “against my views” BECAUSE IT IS NOT MY VIEW.
It’s that simple.
If you don’t understand what is being said, then you should know what to do.
Jeez.
There us nothing to defend. You should be the one to cite the law or straw man because it ALWAYS ethics broken by employing someone who was sanctioned for professional misconduct. When you commit a crime you are sanctioned and you serve your punishment. Salisu was found guilty and he has served his punishment.
I don’t even know where to start with this your spurious argument.
So once a man has served his punishment, that’s it? No consequences?
Really?
I get sent to jail for bank fraud as a banker and once served I should expect to walk back into that bank - or any other bank for that matter - because I have ‘served my time’?
You British people did not even insist that Sam Alladyce should be prosecuted. Rather it was swept under the carpet yet it is NIGERIANS bla bla bla.
This is just a silly argument you make here. Very silly - and that’s putting it politely.
What the hell has Sam Allardyce and his scandal got to do with me, the “British people” or anyone else in the damn universe protesting against Yusuff’s reinstatement as national coach?
You are clutching at straws here, not surprising coming from you and your love of straw.
I’m supposed to go carry placard against Sam Allardyce and post the pictures on CE for wanaj0 to see, right?
I may not like NFF employing Salisu again but there is no law or code of conduct broken by his employment by NFF after he has served his punishment
Nothing to do with what you or anyone else ‘like’.
Nothing to do with the law and all that obfuscating legalese you so love to muddy the waters with.
It’s about morality and principles and the message sent out.
Don’t pretend you don’t get it. You absolutely do.
You just don’t think it is important and you justify it by referring to some “British people” and one washed-up English coach no-one here cares ten kobo about.
Amazing!
Someone cannot be punished for the same offence twice
Oh really?
Go to jail for fondling or sexually harassing a female patient, serve the sentence and see whether you’ll ever get a job as a doctor in the public sector again.
You are really letting yourself down here.
Why, I really don’t know.
But feel free to do so.