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Great defense by Mancini. Osimhen almost scored that time.
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Vic hits the bar
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tedder89 wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:21 pm
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:19 pm
onovo wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:13 pm Awoniyi and Osimehn can both start and play together. Manu Garba did that during his U-17 qualifiers days, by playing Awoniyi together with Isaac Success in the attack and both combinations was ruthless in attack. Gernot Rohr doesn't have to limit his tactics (be to conservative) he has to play to the strength of his players which has a blistering attack. According to coach Garba in 2013 "The Eaglet attack is blistering" and he has to maximize it by playing an attacking brand of football. Even Clemens Westerhof use to Play Yekini, together with Amokachi, Amunike, Finidi and sometimes Siasia and it did work because that was the strength of his team,
This is not U17 football. It makes no sense to start 2 target men together unless one is good at playing from the flanks. England would never play Tammy and Kane together. No need to reinvent the wheel.
It’s not necessarily a bad suggestion; it’s just that Rohr has struggled with finding the right balance esp in midfield

4-4-2 has not worked for us….so far

We struggle to hold the ball and create chances, maybe if we had a JJ it might work but we don't have a mf that can consistently find them.
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bushboy wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:10 pm
Bigpokey24 wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:50 pm enjoying Vic's aggression ... dude is a big time player, love the way he acts on the field.. I think he should never ever tone that down
You just enjoy taking these weird contrary opinions just for the sake of argument sha lol
I think he means that Victor should not lose his competitive edge.
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I no go lie Mancini has had Victor in his back pocket all game!
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bushboy wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:37 pm I no go lie Mancini has had Victor in his back pocket all game!
You are correct. The Roma defenders can go on holiday :tic:

RED card to JM
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Jose sent off lmao...what a match
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defensive organization of Roma is top notch
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wanaj0 wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:44 pm
bushboy wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:37 pm I no go lie Mancini has had Victor in his back pocket all game!
You are correct. The Roma defenders can go on holiday :tic:

RED card to JM
Pocketing a player doesn't mean it's easy. Just means it's effective.
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Abraham off.

Top game I think...
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Oshimen scores; or did he?
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Scores but offsides
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he scores, but they claim it was offside, but that was a hanging power header from boy wonder
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On replay it wasn’t close but Vic is still trying
IN OUR CASE, THERE IS NO TIME. NO SERIOUS COACH WILL TAKE THIS JOB

Pasamu on Monday Feb 22nd 2010 post ANC- I will repeat again, the problem with our team was never ability or personnel or even tactics . It was confidence pure and simple confidence. Amodus team had been spat upon, anything they did was dismissed as insignificant To see the team going from playing brilliant football against Egypt in the first half of their ANC group game to the cautious fear laden play against Zambia was sad.
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bushboy wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:50 pm
wanaj0 wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:44 pm
bushboy wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:37 pm I no go lie Mancini has had Victor in his back pocket all game!
You are correct. The Roma defenders can go on holiday :tic:

RED card to JM
Pocketing a player doesn't mean it's easy. Just means it's effective.
I am agreeing with you.

Unlike Abraham who has a hatrick :taunt: :taunt:
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wanaj0 wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:55 pm
bushboy wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:50 pm
wanaj0 wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:44 pm
bushboy wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:37 pm I no go lie Mancini has had Victor in his back pocket all game!
You are correct. The Roma defenders can go on holiday :tic:

RED card to JM
Pocketing a player doesn't mean it's easy. Just means it's effective.
I am agreeing with you.

Unlike Abraham who has a hatrick :taunt: :taunt:
There’s 2 to three defenders on him all game, how that can be described as pocketing I have no clue…
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0-0

To be honest after Roma lost 6-1 on Thursday, no way JM was going to hand over the keys to the City of Rome
IN OUR CASE, THERE IS NO TIME. NO SERIOUS COACH WILL TAKE THIS JOB

Pasamu on Monday Feb 22nd 2010 post ANC- I will repeat again, the problem with our team was never ability or personnel or even tactics . It was confidence pure and simple confidence. Amodus team had been spat upon, anything they did was dismissed as insignificant To see the team going from playing brilliant football against Egypt in the first half of their ANC group game to the cautious fear laden play against Zambia was sad.
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tedder89 wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:02 pm 0-0

To be honest after Roma lost 6-1 on Thursday, no way JM was going to hand over the keys to the City of Rome
ROMA also outplayed Juve last week and should have flogged Juve.
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Great game. Mancini and Ibanez were prepared to follow Osimhen to the bathroom. Our boy didn't score but put in a solid shift. Moreover these are the types of titanic battles that he will grow from.
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mystic wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:44 pm Great game. Mancini and Ibanez were prepared to follow Osimhen to the bathroom. Our boy didn't score but put in a solid shift. Moreover these are the types of titanic battles that he will grow from.
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Bigpokey24 wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:53 pm he scores, but they claim it was offside, but that was a hanging power header from boy wonder
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ANC wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:19 pm
Bigpokey24 wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:53 pm he scores, but they claim it was offside, but that was a hanging power header from boy wonder
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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:27 pm
tedder89 wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:21 pm
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:19 pm
onovo wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:13 pm Awoniyi and Osimehn can both start and play together. Manu Garba did that during his U-17 qualifiers days, by playing Awoniyi together with Isaac Success in the attack and both combinations was ruthless in attack. Gernot Rohr doesn't have to limit his tactics (be to conservative) he has to play to the strength of his players which has a blistering attack. According to coach Garba in 2013 "The Eaglet attack is blistering" and he has to maximize it by playing an attacking brand of football. Even Clemens Westerhof use to Play Yekini, together with Amokachi, Amunike, Finidi and sometimes Siasia and it did work because that was the strength of his team,
This is not U17 football. It makes no sense to start 2 target men together unless one is good at playing from the flanks. England would never play Tammy and Kane together. No need to reinvent the wheel.
It’s not necessarily a bad suggestion; it’s just that Rohr has struggled with finding the right balance esp in midfield

4-4-2 has not worked for us….so far
We struggle to hold the ball and create chances, maybe if we had a JJ it might work but we don't have a mf that can consistently find them.
Jay Jay was not a first team player in Westerhof 1994 super eagles team (though he started some matches). Clemens Westerhof knowing the strength of his players built his team maximizing this strength. in 1994 world cup group games against Bulgaria, Argentina and Greece, Westerhof played 5 attacking players together at the same time. Siasia played the role of the attacking midfielder, with Finidi and Amunike operating from the wings, while Amokachi and Yekini operated as the supporting and main striker respectively. That team still remains our best team till date, and they never had any major problem in that world cup wit regards to the backline (defence) despite playing 5 attackers at the same time, as opponent where scared/more conscious of curtailing the blistering pace of the eagles attack rather than attacking the eagles. This is because westerhof played simply to strongest strength of his team. Now look at Manchester city under Guardiola that plays mostly with 6 Attacking midfielders and makes less/no use of a defensive midfielder or striker, they are still doing very well loads of goals and having less defence problem. This is because Guardiola has built a team maximizing the strength of his players.

But under Rohr, what you have is a system where Moses simon will be deployed as winger simply because of his ability to defend, and not his attacking disposition. Central defenders are used as Wingback under Rohr just to ensure a water tight defence and not because of their ability to move the ball successfully to attack. Despite all this we still loose matches and struggle against lowly rated teams in Africa whom the North African countries would easily demolish.

Rohr needs to be innovative and build his team on the strength of his players, he doesn't need an OKocha to build that. Westerhof built an attacking team that was formidable without Okocha.

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