Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
Moderators: Moderator Team, phpBB2 - Administrators
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
Otitokoro,
You are absolutely correct on Sadiq's fortune .... so unlucky! Through no fault of his, he has missed two opportunities to be in camp to compete. I have this feeling that when he gets there, he will not leave! In my view, he is a baller with some solid credentials that is not easily found in the rest of our options BAR Victor Osihmen.
The difficulties of statistical thinking describes a puzzling limitation of our mind: our excessive confidence in what we believe we know, and our apparent inability to acknowledge the full extent of our ignorance and the uncertainty of the world we live in. We are prone to overestimate how much we understand about the world and to underestimate the role of chance in events -- Daniel Kahneman (2011), Winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics
Winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics
Winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics
- maceo4
- Eaglet
- Posts: 46785
- Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:41 am
- Location: Land of the Terrapins
- Contact:
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
Ol boy, that whole Calvin Bassey saga makes little to no sense. They rushed him in over an experienced hand so then he must have been so poor that they couldn't even find a few minutes to cap him. So calls into question the teams scouting department as same thing has happened to some extent with Dessers, Akpoguma etc...
Super Eagus 4 Life!
Made in the image of God that's a selfie!
Made in the image of God that's a selfie!
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
Enugu II wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:07 amI guess the wide players like Ejuke etc are no longer midfielders? Yet, when you draw up a formation you will list them as midfielders? Right?vancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:17 pmWhat are his plans ?Orion wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:10 pmSome of you guys act as if football is played on paper. The coach had a good look at Awoniyi over two crucial games and decided he didn't fit his plans at this point. Let the coach decide who fits his plans. The result will be on the coach. He shoulders all responsibilities.naijaguy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:07 pm I really want to understand something.
Is the Bundesliga not a top league?
Does it make any sense to drop a player who had scored 12 goals out of 17 games in the Bundesliga for a retired player who's playing in Saudi Arabia, and has said time and time again that he doesn't want to come back?
Taiwo Awoniyi is in top form, yet he's dropped for no football reason. Smh
To disgrace Nigeria ?
If so then the likes of Musa, Shehu, Ighalo, Onuachu, calling 5 central defenders and 4 midfielders fit right into those plans.
Form is temporary; Class is Permanent!
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
My guess is Rohr doesn't want to risk fielding an inexperienced player like Bassey in important qualifiers in the event of an injury to Zaidu, which is why he invited the more experienced Idowu. This is purely speculation on my part based on Rohr's habit of slowly introducing new players. Bassey will get his chance if he continues to perform well at club level.
maceo4 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:33 pmOl boy, that whole Calvin Bassey saga makes little to no sense. They rushed him in over an experienced hand so then he must have been so poor that they couldn't even find a few minutes to cap him. So calls into question the teams scouting department as same thing has happened to some extent with Dessers, Akpoguma etc...
- TonyTheTigerKiller
- Eaglet
- Posts: 12414
- Joined: Fri Dec 26, 2003 7:55 pm
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
… and I don’t think he should right now. On the basis of goals scored, Simi Nwankwo is probably more deserving right nowDamunk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:20 pmOne door closes, another one opens.Flex Swift wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:05 pm It looks like you guys will get your wish, Onauchu has withdrawn and has been replaced by Taiwo Awoniyi. Collins has also withdrawn and will be be replaced by Brian Idowu.
Another opportunity for Taiwo ........ what will be the excuses should he miss another sitter.......
Some CE members blamed Onauchu for the loss against the mighty CAR at home even though he didn't play .....Mace04, Vancity Eagle &Otitokoro big time haters I am calling you out.
Umaru Sadiq is the only one now that still hasn't made it to camp.
Cheers.
-
- Eaglet
- Posts: 20086
- Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:40 pm
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
Nwankwo has ONE serie A goal this season, meanwhile Sadiq is top scorer in the Segunda and near the top in terms of assists.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:21 am… and I don’t think he should right now. On the basis of goals scored, Simi Nwankwo is probably more deserving right nowDamunk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:20 pmOne door closes, another one opens.Flex Swift wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:05 pm It looks like you guys will get your wish, Onauchu has withdrawn and has been replaced by Taiwo Awoniyi. Collins has also withdrawn and will be be replaced by Brian Idowu.
Another opportunity for Taiwo ........ what will be the excuses should he miss another sitter.......
Some CE members blamed Onauchu for the loss against the mighty CAR at home even though he didn't play .....Mace04, Vancity Eagle &Otitokoro big time haters I am calling you out.
Umaru Sadiq is the only one now that still hasn't made it to camp.
Cheers.
How on earth does a 30 year old Nwankwo deserve a chance ahead of Umar ?
- TonyTheTigerKiller
- Eaglet
- Posts: 12414
- Joined: Fri Dec 26, 2003 7:55 pm
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
I don’t know where to start responding to you. Should I start with your remarkable propensity for embellishment or your total lack of logic? Perhaps you think you’re the only one who has access to player statistics.vancity eagle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:11 amNwankwo has ONE serie A goal this season, meanwhile Sadiq is top scorer in the Segunda and near the top in terms of assists.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:21 am… and I don’t think he should right now. On the basis of goals scored, Simi Nwankwo is probably more deserving right nowDamunk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:20 pmOne door closes, another one opens.Flex Swift wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:05 pm It looks like you guys will get your wish, Onauchu has withdrawn and has been replaced by Taiwo Awoniyi. Collins has also withdrawn and will be be replaced by Brian Idowu.
Another opportunity for Taiwo ........ what will be the excuses should he miss another sitter.......
Some CE members blamed Onauchu for the loss against the mighty CAR at home even though he didn't play .....Mace04, Vancity Eagle &Otitokoro big time haters I am calling you out.
Umaru Sadiq is the only one now that still hasn't made it to camp.
Cheers.
How on earth does a 30 year old Nwankwo deserve a chance ahead of Umar ?
Umar Sadiq has 15 appearances for Almeria in the Segunda this season, has 7 goals and is tied for 3rd with 3 other players and has 6 assists. He has started 93% of the games and played 92% of the minutes available. In comparison, Simi Nwankwo, having been sent on loan to Salernitana in Serie A, has 8 appearances with 1 goal and 2 assists and has started only 50% of the games and played 48% of the minutes available. Additionally, Simi Nwankwo is the first African footballer to have won the top scorer in an Italian professional league (Serie B 2019-2020), with 66 goals (30 in Serie A, 34 in Serie B and 2 in Italian Cup) and he is the best scorer in the history of F.C. Crotone with 20 goals in Serie A 2020-2021. He is also one of only 2 African players to have scored 20 goals in a single season in Serie A, the other being Samuel eto’o. You can belittle him all you want but clearly, Simi Nwankwo has been a better performer than Umar Sadiq.
You mentioned his age; by the way he is 29, not 30 as you claimed but so what? Consider the following players and their ages:
Cristiano Ronaldo 36
Lionel Messi 34
Jamie Vardy 34
Robert Lewandowski 33
Neymar Jr. 29
Mohammed Salah 29
Sadio Mané 29
Romelu Lukaku 28
I could go on and on but I’ll stop right here and I rest my case
Cheers.
Last edited by TonyTheTigerKiller on Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
Maybe Bassey was invited to capture him by getting him into the fold without actually planning to utilise him.
Remember he plays both left back and left central defence. He is young (that dreaded word again!) and therefore on an upward trajectory.
So it might have been strategic and more about taking steps to ward off any future England interests that might arise as he grows at Rangers.
It was probably what they planned for Olise but it seems he has backed off
Just speculating here.
Remember he plays both left back and left central defence. He is young (that dreaded word again!) and therefore on an upward trajectory.
So it might have been strategic and more about taking steps to ward off any future England interests that might arise as he grows at Rangers.
It was probably what they planned for Olise but it seems he has backed off
Just speculating here.
olu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:55 am My guess is Rohr doesn't want to risk fielding an inexperienced player like Bassey in important qualifiers in the event of an injury to Zaidu, which is why he invited the more experienced Idowu. This is purely speculation on my part based on Rohr's habit of slowly introducing new players. Bassey will get his chance if he continues to perform well at club level.
maceo4 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:33 pmOl boy, that whole Calvin Bassey saga makes little to no sense. They rushed him in over an experienced hand so then he must have been so poor that they couldn't even find a few minutes to cap him. So calls into question the teams scouting department as same thing has happened to some extent with Dessers, Akpoguma etc...
"Ole kuku ni gbogbo wọn "
- maceo4
- Eaglet
- Posts: 46785
- Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:41 am
- Location: Land of the Terrapins
- Contact:
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
But in reality they didn’t do anything to ward off English/Italian interest. The only way to do it is capping him which they didn’t…so was a pretty useless call and waste of a plane ticket and accommodations lol…That said I doubt there is any interest and there was absolutely no reason to rush an invite to an undeserving player.Damunk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:21 am Maybe Bassey was invited to capture him by getting him into the fold without actually planning to utilise him.
Remember he plays both left back and left central defence. He is young (that dreaded word again!) and therefore on an upward trajectory.
So it might have been strategic and more about taking steps to ward off any future England interests that might arise as he grows at Rangers.
It was probably what they planned for Olise but it seems he has backed off
Just speculating here.
olu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:55 am My guess is Rohr doesn't want to risk fielding an inexperienced player like Bassey in important qualifiers in the event of an injury to Zaidu, which is why he invited the more experienced Idowu. This is purely speculation on my part based on Rohr's habit of slowly introducing new players. Bassey will get his chance if he continues to perform well at club level.
maceo4 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:33 pmOl boy, that whole Calvin Bassey saga makes little to no sense. They rushed him in over an experienced hand so then he must have been so poor that they couldn't even find a few minutes to cap him. So calls into question the teams scouting department as same thing has happened to some extent with Dessers, Akpoguma etc...
Super Eagus 4 Life!
Made in the image of God that's a selfie!
Made in the image of God that's a selfie!
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
So what in your opinion was the reason he was invited?maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:49 pmBut in reality they didn’t do anything to ward off English/Italian interest. The only way to do it is capping him which they didn’t…so was a pretty useless call and waste of a plane ticket and accommodations lol…That said I doubt there is any interest and there was absolutely no reason to rush an invite to an undeserving player.Damunk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:21 am Maybe Bassey was invited to capture him by getting him into the fold without actually planning to utilise him.
Remember he plays both left back and left central defence. He is young (that dreaded word again!) and therefore on an upward trajectory.
So it might have been strategic and more about taking steps to ward off any future England interests that might arise as he grows at Rangers.
It was probably what they planned for Olise but it seems he has backed off
Just speculating here.
olu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:55 am My guess is Rohr doesn't want to risk fielding an inexperienced player like Bassey in important qualifiers in the event of an injury to Zaidu, which is why he invited the more experienced Idowu. This is purely speculation on my part based on Rohr's habit of slowly introducing new players. Bassey will get his chance if he continues to perform well at club level.
maceo4 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:33 pmOl boy, that whole Calvin Bassey saga makes little to no sense. They rushed him in over an experienced hand so then he must have been so poor that they couldn't even find a few minutes to cap him. So calls into question the teams scouting department as same thing has happened to some extent with Dessers, Akpoguma etc...
"Ole kuku ni gbogbo wọn "
- maceo4
- Eaglet
- Posts: 46785
- Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:41 am
- Location: Land of the Terrapins
- Contact:
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
I literally have no idea, I was perplexed by the invite from the jump, one of those that leaves you scratching your head. Imagine they are telling Lookman that he has to earn his call but this benchwarmer with zero pedigree got the red carpet treatment. I almost feel it was more a warning wake-up call to Sanusi more than anything that Bassey did to deserve a call up. And remember Olise was on the standby list only, if Calvin was on standby might have made more sense.Damunk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:00 pmSo what in your opinion was the reason he was invited?maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:49 pmBut in reality they didn’t do anything to ward off English/Italian interest. The only way to do it is capping him which they didn’t…so was a pretty useless call and waste of a plane ticket and accommodations lol…That said I doubt there is any interest and there was absolutely no reason to rush an invite to an undeserving player.Damunk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:21 am Maybe Bassey was invited to capture him by getting him into the fold without actually planning to utilise him.
Remember he plays both left back and left central defence. He is young (that dreaded word again!) and therefore on an upward trajectory.
So it might have been strategic and more about taking steps to ward off any future England interests that might arise as he grows at Rangers.
It was probably what they planned for Olise but it seems he has backed off
Just speculating here.
olu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:55 am My guess is Rohr doesn't want to risk fielding an inexperienced player like Bassey in important qualifiers in the event of an injury to Zaidu, which is why he invited the more experienced Idowu. This is purely speculation on my part based on Rohr's habit of slowly introducing new players. Bassey will get his chance if he continues to perform well at club level.
maceo4 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:33 pmOl boy, that whole Calvin Bassey saga makes little to no sense. They rushed him in over an experienced hand so then he must have been so poor that they couldn't even find a few minutes to cap him. So calls into question the teams scouting department as same thing has happened to some extent with Dessers, Akpoguma etc...
Super Eagus 4 Life!
Made in the image of God that's a selfie!
Made in the image of God that's a selfie!
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
maceo4,
Sorry, you lost me for a sec. there...which 'benchwarmer' are you referring to?
Regarding Lookman, yes, he does have to prove himself. He is a good player, no doubt, who may add value to the team. However, we don't know what we don't know.
Regarding Calvin 'absconding', doubt very much if that will happen. He is definitely in the mix for the AFCON squad of 28 and its up to him to displace either Collins or Zaidu. The fact that he plays for Glasgow Rangers is a plus for him, as well as the fact that Stephen Gerrard has a lot of confidence in him is fantastic, having pitted him against the Rangers & Croatian left back, Borna Barišić. Bassey has also played several games in Europe, where he has acquainted himself quite well. He also went the full 90 in their match this past weekend against Ross County and played very well.
The chances of him displacing Collins are very high and I suspect it will happen soon.
Clearly, the CAR defeat was a big set back, as the plan was to cap Bassey in Lagos. Unfortunately, that didn't happen.
Sorry, you lost me for a sec. there...which 'benchwarmer' are you referring to?
Regarding Lookman, yes, he does have to prove himself. He is a good player, no doubt, who may add value to the team. However, we don't know what we don't know.
Regarding Calvin 'absconding', doubt very much if that will happen. He is definitely in the mix for the AFCON squad of 28 and its up to him to displace either Collins or Zaidu. The fact that he plays for Glasgow Rangers is a plus for him, as well as the fact that Stephen Gerrard has a lot of confidence in him is fantastic, having pitted him against the Rangers & Croatian left back, Borna Barišić. Bassey has also played several games in Europe, where he has acquainted himself quite well. He also went the full 90 in their match this past weekend against Ross County and played very well.
The chances of him displacing Collins are very high and I suspect it will happen soon.
Clearly, the CAR defeat was a big set back, as the plan was to cap Bassey in Lagos. Unfortunately, that didn't happen.
maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:13 pm I literally have no idea, I was perplexed by the invite from the jump, one of those that leaves you scratching your head. Imagine they are telling Lookman that he has to earn his call but this benchwarmer with zero pedigree got the red carpet treatment. I almost feel it was more a warning wake-up call to Sanusi more than anything that Bassey did to deserve a call up. And remember Olise was on the standby list only, if Calvin was on standby might have made more sense.
- maceo4
- Eaglet
- Posts: 46785
- Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:41 am
- Location: Land of the Terrapins
- Contact:
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
Ol boy you know who I’m referring to. Calvin in that useless league does not have a higher pedigree in the game than Lookman who has years in the Premiership and German league. Telling him he needs to earn his call while a young up and coming player in a crap league is getting the red carpet treatment makes no sense to me. He’s played a few games in Europe, ok, was it not because of injury to the starter? Context matters, he’s not some star at Rangers and Scottish league is trash. Same Rangers that were knocked out of the CL by useless Bonke and co…Please you guys should stop overhyping this young man who is clearly not yet ready. When he is ready he can rightly earn his call up. For now I maintain there is some wuruwuru in rushing him into the team only to now dump him.Otitokoro wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:57 pm maceo4,
Sorry, you lost me for a sec. there...which 'benchwarmer' are you referring to?
Regarding Lookman, yes, he does have to prove himself. He is a good player, no doubt, who may add value to the team. However, we don't know what we don't know.
Regarding Calvin 'absconding', doubt very much if that will happen. He is definitely in the mix for the AFCON squad of 28 and its up to him to displace either Collins or Zaidu. The fact that he plays for Glasgow Rangers is a plus for him, as well as the fact that Stephen Gerrard has a lot of confidence in him is fantastic, having pitted him against the Rangers & Croatian left back, Borna Barišić. Bassey has also played several games in Europe, where he has acquainted himself quite well. He also went the full 90 in their match this past weekend against Ross County and played very well.
The chances of him displacing Collins are very high and I suspect it will happen soon.
Clearly, the CAR defeat was a big set back, as the plan was to cap Bassey in Lagos. Unfortunately, that didn't happen.maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:13 pm I literally have no idea, I was perplexed by the invite from the jump, one of those that leaves you scratching your head. Imagine they are telling Lookman that he has to earn his call but this benchwarmer with zero pedigree got the red carpet treatment. I almost feel it was more a warning wake-up call to Sanusi more than anything that Bassey did to deserve a call up. And remember Olise was on the standby list only, if Calvin was on standby might have made more sense.
Super Eagus 4 Life!
Made in the image of God that's a selfie!
Made in the image of God that's a selfie!
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
Ah, got you.
Useless league? Interesting. Same useless league / team (as you implied) where two of your main starters in the SE ply their trades (Balogun & Aribo). Also, same Rangers where several other starting internationals play, like Barišić (Croatia), Helander (Sweden), Morelos (Colombia), Hagi (Romania)?
If that's your take, then fine.
Useless league? Interesting. Same useless league / team (as you implied) where two of your main starters in the SE ply their trades (Balogun & Aribo). Also, same Rangers where several other starting internationals play, like Barišić (Croatia), Helander (Sweden), Morelos (Colombia), Hagi (Romania)?
If that's your take, then fine.
maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:24 pm Ol boy you know who I’m referring to. Calvin in that useless league does not have a higher pedigree in the game than Lookman who has years in the Premiership and German league. Telling him he needs to earn his call while a young up and coming player in a crap league is getting the red carpet treatment makes no sense to me. He’s played a few games in Europe, ok, was it not because of injury to the starter? Context matters, he’s not some star at Rangers and Scottish league is trash. Same Rangers that were knocked out of the CL by useless Bonke and co…Please you guys should stop overhyping this young man who is clearly not yet ready. When he is ready he can rightly earn his call up. For now I maintain there is some wuruwuru in rushing him into the team only to now dump him.
- maceo4
- Eaglet
- Posts: 46785
- Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:41 am
- Location: Land of the Terrapins
- Contact:
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
Bros, I'm being a little hyperbolic, but its definitely not a better league than the ones Lookman has played in abi? So why should a young player who hasn't really achieved much be ushered (and then not even capped or recalled again) in while Lookman with a higher pedigree has to 'earn it'? Its not like we lack LB/LWB, we have 3 solid ones (Collin, Sanusi, Aina). Hence why bobo hasn't been re-called again. Unless we feared he would be capped by someone else, I just didn't see the rush, the young man still has time to get to NT quality. And worst is his invite counted for nothing if our reason for rushing his invite was he would be capped by someone else. But like I said I don't get the call and can't rationalize it. But it is what it is.Otitokoro wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:35 pm Ah, got you.
Useless league? Interesting. Same useless league / team (as you implied) where two of your main starters in the SE ply their trades (Balogun & Aribo). Also, same Rangers where several other starting internationals play, like Barišić (Croatia), Helander (Sweden), Morelos (Colombia), Hagi (Romania)?
If that's your take, then fine.maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:24 pm Ol boy you know who I’m referring to. Calvin in that useless league does not have a higher pedigree in the game than Lookman who has years in the Premiership and German league. Telling him he needs to earn his call while a young up and coming player in a crap league is getting the red carpet treatment makes no sense to me. He’s played a few games in Europe, ok, was it not because of injury to the starter? Context matters, he’s not some star at Rangers and Scottish league is trash. Same Rangers that were knocked out of the CL by useless Bonke and co…Please you guys should stop overhyping this young man who is clearly not yet ready. When he is ready he can rightly earn his call up. For now I maintain there is some wuruwuru in rushing him into the team only to now dump him.
Super Eagus 4 Life!
Made in the image of God that's a selfie!
Made in the image of God that's a selfie!
-
- Eaglet
- Posts: 20086
- Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:40 pm
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
Maceo
"Lookman must prove himself"
Is simply a way for them to be able to justify protecting Ahmed Musas spot in the team.
"Lookman must prove himself"
Is simply a way for them to be able to justify protecting Ahmed Musas spot in the team.
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
You also have to understand that we have very few top performers at the left back position, especially left footed players. So the likes of Zaidu, Collins and Bassey are rare.
On the other hand, we have a plethora of wingers on the squad - Simon, Ejuke, Kalu, Chukwueze, Musa, Iwobi and other potential outsiders, like Lookman, Osayi-Samuel, Iwuala, and any others I might have missed. There is more competition on the flanks and thus the need to stand out more, in comparison to the left back position.
I believe that was what was implied in the comment.
On the other hand, we have a plethora of wingers on the squad - Simon, Ejuke, Kalu, Chukwueze, Musa, Iwobi and other potential outsiders, like Lookman, Osayi-Samuel, Iwuala, and any others I might have missed. There is more competition on the flanks and thus the need to stand out more, in comparison to the left back position.
I believe that was what was implied in the comment.
maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:28 pm Bros, I'm being a little hyperbolic, but its definitely not a better league than the ones Lookman has played in abi? So why should a young player who hasn't really achieved much be ushered (and then not even capped or recalled again) in while Lookman with a higher pedigree has to 'earn it'? Its not like we lack LB/LWB, we have 3 solid ones (Collin, Sanusi, Aina). Hence why bobo hasn't been re-called again. Unless we feared he would be capped by someone else, I just didn't see the rush, the young man still has time to get to NT quality. And worst is his invite counted for nothing if our reason for rushing his invite was he would be capped by someone else. But like I said I don't get the call and can't rationalize it. But it is what it is.
- maceo4
- Eaglet
- Posts: 46785
- Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:41 am
- Location: Land of the Terrapins
- Contact:
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
I hear you, but I would have understood more if they were calling an Udogie from Udinese, that kind of young left footer is way more ready for our NT than Calvin. But make I leave tok.Otitokoro wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:35 pm You also have to understand that we have very few top performers at the left back position, especially left footed players. So the likes of Zaidu, Collins and Bassey are rare.
On the other hand, we have a plethora of wingers on the squad - Simon, Ejuke, Kalu, Chukwueze, Musa, Iwobi and other potential outsiders, like Lookman, Osayi-Samuel, Iwuala, and any others I might have missed. There is more competition on the flanks and thus the need to stand out more, in comparison to the left back position.
I believe that was what was implied in the comment.maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:28 pm Bros, I'm being a little hyperbolic, but its definitely not a better league than the ones Lookman has played in abi? So why should a young player who hasn't really achieved much be ushered (and then not even capped or recalled again) in while Lookman with a higher pedigree has to 'earn it'? Its not like we lack LB/LWB, we have 3 solid ones (Collin, Sanusi, Aina). Hence why bobo hasn't been re-called again. Unless we feared he would be capped by someone else, I just didn't see the rush, the young man still has time to get to NT quality. And worst is his invite counted for nothing if our reason for rushing his invite was he would be capped by someone else. But like I said I don't get the call and can't rationalize it. But it is what it is.
Super Eagus 4 Life!
Made in the image of God that's a selfie!
Made in the image of God that's a selfie!
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
England and Italy aren't inviting Bassey anytime soon. He's not that hot of a prospect.
Damunk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:00 pmSo what in your opinion was the reason he was invited?maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:49 pmBut in reality they didn’t do anything to ward off English/Italian interest. The only way to do it is capping him which they didn’t…so was a pretty useless call and waste of a plane ticket and accommodations lol…That said I doubt there is any interest and there was absolutely no reason to rush an invite to an undeserving player.Damunk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:21 am Maybe Bassey was invited to capture him by getting him into the fold without actually planning to utilise him.
Remember he plays both left back and left central defence. He is young (that dreaded word again!) and therefore on an upward trajectory.
So it might have been strategic and more about taking steps to ward off any future England interests that might arise as he grows at Rangers.
It was probably what they planned for Olise but it seems he has backed off
Just speculating here.
olu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:55 am My guess is Rohr doesn't want to risk fielding an inexperienced player like Bassey in important qualifiers in the event of an injury to Zaidu, which is why he invited the more experienced Idowu. This is purely speculation on my part based on Rohr's habit of slowly introducing new players. Bassey will get his chance if he continues to perform well at club level.
maceo4 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:33 pmOl boy, that whole Calvin Bassey saga makes little to no sense. They rushed him in over an experienced hand so then he must have been so poor that they couldn't even find a few minutes to cap him. So calls into question the teams scouting department as same thing has happened to some extent with Dessers, Akpoguma etc...
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
Understood.
But I doubt if the kid has expressed an interest in playing for Nigeria and has taken the steps necessary for a nationality switch, considering he was born and raised in Italy and had played in literarily ALL their youth team (he has 33 youth caps for Italy).
TBH, I very much doubt that kid wants anything to do with the Super Eagles.
You go into battle with the troops you have, not the ones you wish you had.
But I doubt if the kid has expressed an interest in playing for Nigeria and has taken the steps necessary for a nationality switch, considering he was born and raised in Italy and had played in literarily ALL their youth team (he has 33 youth caps for Italy).
TBH, I very much doubt that kid wants anything to do with the Super Eagles.
You go into battle with the troops you have, not the ones you wish you had.
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
Mace04maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:28 pmBros, I'm being a little hyperbolic, but its definitely not a better league than the ones Lookman has played in abi? So why should a young player who hasn't really achieved much be ushered (and then not even capped or recalled again) in while Lookman with a higher pedigree has to 'earn it'? Its not like we lack LB/LWB, we have 3 solid ones (Collin, Sanusi, Aina). Hence why bobo hasn't been re-called again. Unless we feared he would be capped by someone else, I just didn't see the rush, the young man still has time to get to NT quality. And worst is his invite counted for nothing if our reason for rushing his invite was he would be capped by someone else. But like I said I don't get the call and can't rationalize it. But it is what it is.Otitokoro wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:35 pm Ah, got you.
Useless league? Interesting. Same useless league / team (as you implied) where two of your main starters in the SE ply their trades (Balogun & Aribo). Also, same Rangers where several other starting internationals play, like Barišić (Croatia), Helander (Sweden), Morelos (Colombia), Hagi (Romania)?
If that's your take, then fine.maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:24 pm Ol boy you know who I’m referring to. Calvin in that useless league does not have a higher pedigree in the game than Lookman who has years in the Premiership and German league. Telling him he needs to earn his call while a young up and coming player in a crap league is getting the red carpet treatment makes no sense to me. He’s played a few games in Europe, ok, was it not because of injury to the starter? Context matters, he’s not some star at Rangers and Scottish league is trash. Same Rangers that were knocked out of the CL by useless Bonke and co…Please you guys should stop overhyping this young man who is clearly not yet ready. When he is ready he can rightly earn his call up. For now I maintain there is some wuruwuru in rushing him into the team only to now dump him.
I get your point but here is something to think about. Bassey is a young lad. Is it not possible that the SE manager is not entirely sure how good he is? Note in Scotland it can be difficult because the Celts and Rangers regularly play against moi moi opposition. By calling him up you want to weigh him in training against good players. Perhaps it gave the crew opportunity to note that there is no need to rush the guy. In my view, such information perceived in regular contests against certain level of opposition may justify how Bassey was used thus far. Just a thought.
Last edited by Enugu II on Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
The difficulties of statistical thinking describes a puzzling limitation of our mind: our excessive confidence in what we believe we know, and our apparent inability to acknowledge the full extent of our ignorance and the uncertainty of the world we live in. We are prone to overestimate how much we understand about the world and to underestimate the role of chance in events -- Daniel Kahneman (2011), Winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics
Winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics
Winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics
Re: Team List for Liberia and Cape Verde Games - Odion Ighalo back
In that case we should bring back Obafemi Martins then.1naija wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:11 pm Who is the prolific scorer in Bundesliga they dropped? Did he score for Nigeria?
naijaguy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:07 pm I really want to understand something.
Is the Bundesliga not a top league?
Does it make any sense to drop a player who had scored 12 goals out of 17 games in the Bundesliga for a retired player who's playing in Saudi Arabia, and has said time and time again that he doesn't want to come back?
Taiwo Awoniyi is in top form, yet he's dropped for no football reason. Smh
"Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds!" - Bob Marley