Owngoal reporting that Rohr has been sacked

[cchinukw]

I see the celebrations here and realize,....Nigerians are dumb.

Be very careful what you wish for....that is all I will say.

Rohr's tenure as coach has been uneventful. Hiring him was dumb.

We were never going to win any silverware with him in charge.

May I remind you that we managed to win the AFCON in 2013 with the usual NFF self destructive management.

[The YeyeMan]

I see the celebrations here and realize,....Nigerians are dumb.

Be very careful what you wish for....that is all I will say.

We wish for a better team, a team that Rohr can't produce. Nothing to be careful about.

Actually you wish for Rohr to get sacked with the hope you get a better team.
The problem is,...wishing is not a plan!

People like you are a parody of the clueless wishing for what they do not understand.
As I always said, it is very easy to destroy or dismantle, but building takes much more than wishes and mob justice.

If Nigeria fail to qualify for the WC because we messed up the team dynamics and stability by changing the coach at a crucial juncture,...look in a mirror because you and others like you are part of the reason.

I'm a fan, I'm not supposed to have a plan - don't be dense.

The people who ARE supposed to have a plan - people like Rohr - have shown themselves up to be clueless. Rohr is lost and out of time - another opportunity has arisen for him to be put out of his and our misery. I hope the NFF takes it this time.

[TonyTheTigerKiller]

This is foolish for several reasons.

1. Unless we fail to qualify for Qatar Rohr cannot be sacked until after the AFCON, he has currently has fulfilled all goals.
2. If we fail to win the AFCON, a new manager will have nine months at best to get used to the team, in which he would only play on the weekend of March 26th and September 24th.

We risk making the same mistakes as we did in 1998, 2002 and 2010.

You do think like a junior.

1. Rohr cannot be sacked until after AFCON???

It is the NFF’s prerogative to sack Rohr whenever they choose as long as they fulfill their obligations to him.

2. Appointing a new coach before AFCON not only gives him time to familiarize himself with the personnel, and win or lose, it also establishes a template to prepare for the playoffs


Cheers.

I believe his contract protects him which is why they are trying to get him to resign.

Obviously, they would prefer if he resigns. If he does, they won’t have to pay him what they owe on his contract but the word is someone has agreed to pay his termination fees.

A poorly performing coach shouldn’t be kept on just to avoid paying him


Cheers.

[TonyTheTigerKiller]

This is foolish for several reasons.

1. Unless we fail to qualify for Qatar Rohr cannot be sacked until after the AFCON, he has currently has fulfilled all goals.
2. If we fail to win the AFCON, a new manager will have nine months at best to get used to the team, in which he would only play on the weekend of March 26th and September 24th.

We risk making the same mistakes as we did in 1998, 2002 and 2010.

You do think like a junior.

1. Rohr cannot be sacked until after AFCON???

It is the NFF’s prerogative to sack Rohr whenever they choose as long as they fulfill their obligations to him.

2. Appointing a new coach before AFCON not only gives him time to familiarize himself with the personnel, and win or lose, it also establishes a template to prepare for the playoffs


Cheers.

I believe his contract protects him which is why they are trying to get him to resign.

Obviously, they would prefer if he resigns. If he does, they won’t have to pay him what they owe on his contract but the word is someone has agreed to pay his termination fees.

A poorly performing coach shouldn’t be kept on just to avoid paying him


Cheers.

[maceo4]

This is foolish for several reasons.

1. Unless we fail to qualify for Qatar Rohr cannot be sacked until after the AFCON, he has currently has fulfilled all goals.
2. If we fail to win the AFCON, a new manager will have nine months at best to get used to the team, in which he would only play on the weekend of March 26th and September 24th.

We risk making the same mistakes as we did in 1998, 2002 and 2010.

You do think like a junior.

1. Rohr cannot be sacked until after AFCON???

It is the NFF’s prerogative to sack Rohr whenever they choose as long as they fulfill their obligations to him.

2. Appointing a new coach before AFCON not only gives him time to familiarize himself with the personnel, and win or lose, it also establishes a template to prepare for the playoffs


Cheers.

I believe his contract protects him which is why they are trying to get him to resign.

Obviously, they would prefer if he resigns. If he does, they won’t have to pay him what they owe on his contract but the word is someone has agreed to pay his termination fees.

A poorly performing coach shouldn’t be kept on just to avoid paying him


Cheers.

Similar to the same sponsorships that they have in place that made promises but aren’t actually paying? Some company also promised to be paying ****’s wages and he’s being owed how many months pay…abeg it’s all hot air…

[Schillachi]

They should demote him and put Oliseh as coach. Shame should force him to resign, if he has any.

[oscar52]

Some names should not be mentioned for the SE job again. Oliseh, Yusuf, and Siasia. That boat has sailed.

[danfo driver]

I see the celebrations here and realize,....Nigerians are dumb.

Be very careful what you wish for....that is all I will say.

We wish for a better team, a team that Rohr can't produce. Nothing to be careful about.

Actually you wish for Rohr to get sacked with the hope you get a better team.
The problem is,...wishing is not a plan!

People like you are a parody of the clueless wishing for what they do not understand.
As I always said, it is very easy to destroy or dismantle, but building takes much more than wishes and mob justice.

If Nigeria fail to qualify for the WC because we messed up the team dynamics and stability by changing the coach at a crucial juncture,...look in a mirror because you and others like you are part of the reason.

I'm a fan, I'm not supposed to have a plan - don't be dense.

The people who ARE supposed to have a plan - people like Rohr - have shown themselves up to be clueless. Rohr is lost and out of time - another opportunity has arisen for him to be put out of his and our misery. I hope the NFF takes it this time.

This is exactly why Nigeria is broken and dead! Tufiakwa!

1 government is supposed to provide electricity; the Citizens do it themselves - generator/solar
2. government is supposed to provide water; the Citizens do it themselves - borehole
3. government is supposed to provide security; the Citizens do it themselves - mopol/gateman

Just to name a few! That is why Nigerians think its a fans job to create a plan for the national team, select a coach, coach the team sef! Tufiakwa! Who cursed us?????!!!

[danfo driver]

They should demote him and put Oliseh as coach. Shame should force him to resign, if he has any.

1. you cant shame the shameless

2. that is called constructive termination.

[danfo driver]

The title of this thread is yet to be confirmed, but the comments are as if it is. Just a window
on how we love turning rumors and guesses into facts.

I feel the spirit of Amodu and Keshi dealing with us. At least those two put in their best
and gave some good results, then we rubbished their achievements, and hounded them
off the position. Now we are straddled with a coach who we can't just throw away since
he has and had fulfilled his mandate.

BTW, has anyone thought about how the NFF can pay off what's owed to Herr Rohr,
then turn around and hire one of those 'boutique' coaches that most herein are clamoring for?

We probably can't even pay Rohr off.

...a fact, but the detracting liars don't wanna see that. Pay the man and get your super knight you probably gonna owe for months and years.

You seem hurt... your wretched white daddy who spends most of his time in Nigeria fooking our women, instead of doing his dammmmnn job is done! And thunder will faya and punish him, wherever he goes next.

[mcal]

The title of this thread is yet to be confirmed, but the comments are as if it is. Just a window
on how we love turning rumors and guesses into facts.

I feel the spirit of Amodu and Keshi dealing with us. At least those two put in their best
and gave some good results, then we rubbished their achievements, and hounded them
off the position. Now we are straddled with a coach who we can't just throw away since
he has and had fulfilled his mandate.

BTW, has anyone thought about how the NFF can pay off what's owed to Herr Rohr,
then turn around and hire one of those 'boutique' coaches that most herein are clamoring for?

We probably can't even pay Rohr off.

...a fact, but the detracting liars don't wanna see that. Pay the man and get your super knight you probably gonna owe for months and years.

You seem hurt... your wretched white daddy who spends most of his time in Nigeria fooking our women, instead of doing his dammmmnn job is done! And thunder will faya and punish him, wherever he goes next.

...all is hurt, including you who hired a white man to this job for you.

[Bigpokey24]

I see the celebrations here and realize,....Nigerians are dumb.

Be very careful what you wish for....that is all I will say.

We wish for a better team, a team that Rohr can't produce. Nothing to be careful about.

Actually you wish for Rohr to get sacked with the hope you get a better team.
The problem is,...wishing is not a plan!

People like you are a parody of the clueless wishing for what they do not understand.
As I always said, it is very easy to destroy or dismantle, but building takes much more than wishes and mob justice.

If Nigeria fail to qualify for the WC because we messed up the team dynamics and stability by changing the coach at a crucial juncture,...look in a mirror because you and others like you are part of the reason.

I'm a fan, I'm not supposed to have a plan - don't be dense.

The people who ARE supposed to have a plan - people like Rohr - have shown themselves up to be clueless. Rohr is lost and out of time - another opportunity has arisen for him to be put out of his and our misery. I hope the NFF takes it this time.

This is exactly why Nigeria is broken and dead! Tufiakwa!

1 government is supposed to provide electricity; the Citizens do it themselves - generator/solar
2. government is supposed to provide water; the Citizens do it themselves - borehole
3. government is supposed to provide security; the Citizens do it themselves - mopol/gateman

Just to name a few! That is why Nigerians think its a fans job to create a plan for the national team, select a coach, coach the team sef! Tufiakwa! Who cursed us?????!!!

no mind charlie, make person wind charlie.. dude wants CE folks who support the SE , to come up with a 5 year plan... smh... oh my wetin we no dey read here ..people like charlie dey take themselves too seriously

[charlie]

I see the celebrations here and realize,....Nigerians are dumb.

Be very careful what you wish for....that is all I will say.

We wish for a better team, a team that Rohr can't produce. Nothing to be careful about.

Actually you wish for Rohr to get sacked with the hope you get a better team.
The problem is,...wishing is not a plan!

People like you are a parody of the clueless wishing for what they do not understand.
As I always said, it is very easy to destroy or dismantle, but building takes much more than wishes and mob justice.

If Nigeria fail to qualify for the WC because we messed up the team dynamics and stability by changing the coach at a crucial juncture,...look in a mirror because you and others like you are part of the reason.

I'm a fan, I'm not supposed to have a plan - don't be dense.

The people who ARE supposed to have a plan - people like Rohr - have shown themselves up to be clueless. Rohr is lost and out of time - another opportunity has arisen for him to be put out of his and our misery. I hope the NFF takes it this time.

Yeyeman, Thank you for being truthful.

As you rightly said, you are a Fan and it is not your job to have, develop and implement a plan.
Yet, fans like you calling for Rohr's immediate termination, even though you admit to be clueless and have no idea of the consequences of such a decision.

So why should your opinion be taken seriously?

That said, even as a fan, even if its not your job to figure out a working plan,...you can at least think of the consequences of what you are asking for.

If Rohr is fired today, what happens next?
Who takes over the team without disrupting team balance and chemistry?
How do you pay the previous coach (Rohr) and the next coach?
Who will be the next coach?
How can you be sure he will be any better than the current coaching crew?
How does this disrupt crucial planning for the next phase of qualification?
How can you ensure the players will buy into a coaching change at this stage?
Is firing Rohr really the best option, or are there other options to help improve the team without disrupting it?

You dont need to be more than just a fan to think through these simple questions, and then use the inevitable responses to tamper your expectations.

Just use more common sense and less "mob" led emotions.

[aruako1]

I see the celebrations here and realize,....Nigerians are dumb.

Be very careful what you wish for....that is all I will say.

We wish for a better team, a team that Rohr can't produce. Nothing to be careful about.

Actually you wish for Rohr to get sacked with the hope you get a better team.
The problem is,...wishing is not a plan!

People like you are a parody of the clueless wishing for what they do not understand.
As I always said, it is very easy to destroy or dismantle, but building takes much more than wishes and mob justice.

If Nigeria fail to qualify for the WC because we messed up the team dynamics and stability by changing the coach at a crucial juncture,...look in a mirror because you and others like you are part of the reason.

I'm a fan, I'm not supposed to have a plan - don't be dense.

The people who ARE supposed to have a plan - people like Rohr - have shown themselves up to be clueless. Rohr is lost and out of time - another opportunity has arisen for him to be put out of his and our misery. I hope the NFF takes it this time.

Yeyeman, Thank you for being truthful.

As you rightly said, you are a Fan and it is not your job to have, develop and implement a plan.
Yet, fans like you calling for Rohr's immediate termination, even though you admit to be clueless and have no idea of the consequences of such a decision.

So why should your opinion be taken seriously?

That said, even as a fan, even if its not your job to figure out a working plan,...you can at least think of the consequences of what you are asking for.

If Rohr is fired today, what happens next?
Who takes over the team without disrupting team balance and chemistry?
How do you pay the previous coach (Rohr) and the next coach?
Who will be the next coach?
How can you be sure he will be any better than the current coaching crew?
How does this disrupt crucial planning for the next phase of qualification?
How can you ensure the players will buy into a coaching change at this stage?
Is firing Rohr really the best option, or are there other options to help improve the team without disrupting it?

You dont need to be more than just a fan to think through these simple questions, and then use the inevitable responses to tamper your expectations.

Just use more common sense and less "mob" led emotions.

Football is entertainment for the fans. If they are no longer enjoying it (and the vast majority of SE fans are clearly not), then they will ask for change. It is not their business to tell you how to get what they want. Imagine if I complained about food in a restaurant and I'm asked for a plan to replace the chef or make the food better.

[charlie]

I see the celebrations here and realize,....Nigerians are dumb.

Be very careful what you wish for....that is all I will say.

We wish for a better team, a team that Rohr can't produce. Nothing to be careful about.

Actually you wish for Rohr to get sacked with the hope you get a better team.
The problem is,...wishing is not a plan!

People like you are a parody of the clueless wishing for what they do not understand.
As I always said, it is very easy to destroy or dismantle, but building takes much more than wishes and mob justice.

If Nigeria fail to qualify for the WC because we messed up the team dynamics and stability by changing the coach at a crucial juncture,...look in a mirror because you and others like you are part of the reason.

I'm a fan, I'm not supposed to have a plan - don't be dense.

The people who ARE supposed to have a plan - people like Rohr - have shown themselves up to be clueless. Rohr is lost and out of time - another opportunity has arisen for him to be put out of his and our misery. I hope the NFF takes it this time.

Yeyeman, Thank you for being truthful.

As you rightly said, you are a Fan and it is not your job to have, develop and implement a plan.
Yet, fans like you calling for Rohr's immediate termination, even though you admit to be clueless and have no idea of the consequences of such a decision.

So why should your opinion be taken seriously?

That said, even as a fan, even if its not your job to figure out a working plan,...you can at least think of the consequences of what you are asking for.

If Rohr is fired today, what happens next?
Who takes over the team without disrupting team balance and chemistry?
How do you pay the previous coach (Rohr) and the next coach?
Who will be the next coach?
How can you be sure he will be any better than the current coaching crew?
How does this disrupt crucial planning for the next phase of qualification?
How can you ensure the players will buy into a coaching change at this stage?
Is firing Rohr really the best option, or are there other options to help improve the team without disrupting it?

You dont need to be more than just a fan to think through these simple questions, and then use the inevitable responses to tamper your expectations.

Just use more common sense and less "mob" led emotions.

Football is entertainment for the fans. If they are no longer enjoying it (and the vast majority of SE fans are clearly not), then they will ask for change. It is not their business to tell you how to get what they want. Imagine if I complained about food in a restaurant and I'm asked for a plan to replace the chef or make the food better.

Asking for change without understanding the consequences of your requests is generally "childish".
If you are an adult that should understand that life is actually complicated and not everything will always be "entertaining", fun or easy, then actually insisting on change without analyzing the impact is considered "stupidity".

All I say is be careful what you ask for, especially if you have not considered the consequences.
Firing Rohr is not a solution on its own.

[aruako1]

I see the celebrations here and realize,....Nigerians are dumb.

Be very careful what you wish for....that is all I will say.

We wish for a better team, a team that Rohr can't produce. Nothing to be careful about.

Actually you wish for Rohr to get sacked with the hope you get a better team.
The problem is,...wishing is not a plan!

People like you are a parody of the clueless wishing for what they do not understand.
As I always said, it is very easy to destroy or dismantle, but building takes much more than wishes and mob justice.

If Nigeria fail to qualify for the WC because we messed up the team dynamics and stability by changing the coach at a crucial juncture,...look in a mirror because you and others like you are part of the reason.

I'm a fan, I'm not supposed to have a plan - don't be dense.

The people who ARE supposed to have a plan - people like Rohr - have shown themselves up to be clueless. Rohr is lost and out of time - another opportunity has arisen for him to be put out of his and our misery. I hope the NFF takes it this time.

Yeyeman, Thank you for being truthful.

As you rightly said, you are a Fan and it is not your job to have, develop and implement a plan.
Yet, fans like you calling for Rohr's immediate termination, even though you admit to be clueless and have no idea of the consequences of such a decision.

So why should your opinion be taken seriously?

That said, even as a fan, even if its not your job to figure out a working plan,...you can at least think of the consequences of what you are asking for.

If Rohr is fired today, what happens next?
Who takes over the team without disrupting team balance and chemistry?
How do you pay the previous coach (Rohr) and the next coach?
Who will be the next coach?
How can you be sure he will be any better than the current coaching crew?
How does this disrupt crucial planning for the next phase of qualification?
How can you ensure the players will buy into a coaching change at this stage?
Is firing Rohr really the best option, or are there other options to help improve the team without disrupting it?

You dont need to be more than just a fan to think through these simple questions, and then use the inevitable responses to tamper your expectations.

Just use more common sense and less "mob" led emotions.

Football is entertainment for the fans. If they are no longer enjoying it (and the vast majority of SE fans are clearly not), then they will ask for change. It is not their business to tell you how to get what they want. Imagine if I complained about food in a restaurant and I'm asked for a plan to replace the chef or make the food better.

Asking for change without understanding the consequences of your requests is generally "childish".
If you are an adult that should understand that life is actually complicated and not everything will always be "entertaining", fun or easy, then actually insisting on change without analyzing the impact is considered "stupidity".

All I say is be careful what you ask for, especially if you have not considered the consequences.
Firing Rohr is not a solution on its own.

Your ad hominem insults are the sign of a lost argument. I'll be the "adult" and not address them.

Back to the matter. The consequences of what we are asking for are clear. A super eagles team that will qualify for the World Cup. Going back to my example, I want a well cooked meal...how the restaurant gets it is not my problem. And yes, football should not always be entertaining, but it should not always be terrible either. On this, or another thread, I posted about how I only went "Rohr out" during these qualifiers. Was he playing flowing entertaining football before then? If the answer is no, then that means that we at least tolerated the lack of entertainment for a while.

[The YeyeMan]

Who told those calling for change don't understand the POTENTIAL consequences?

This is in part a matter of risk vs reward, to stick or twist, and determine whether the potential rewards outweigh those risks.

I strongly suspect we've seen the best Rohr can do - I doubt we'll win AFCON with him or get to the final. Now we're seeing the worst he can do - and who knows whether we've even hit rock bottom with him. The point is, by now we have a clear understanding of his range and capabilities.

Now let's answer your questions:

If Rohr is fired today, what happens next?
A new coach will be appointed.

Who takes over the team without disrupting team balance and chemistry?
What balance, what chemistry?

How do you pay the previous coach (Rohr) and the next coach?
Not my concern.

Who will be the next coach?
If I knew that I'd play the lottery numbers this weekend.

How can you be sure he will be any better than the current coaching crew?
There's always a degree of uncertainty with any appointment. Football doesn't usually provide guarantees. You must know this by now.

How does this disrupt crucial planning for the next phase of qualification?
Hire early to give the new coach as much time as possible for planning to minimise any 'disruption'.

How can you ensure the players will buy into a coaching change at this stage?
How many players have come out in support of Rohr...?

Is firing Rohr really the best option, or are there other options to help improve the team without disrupting it?
All things considered, yes. Btw, disruption is not necessarily a bad thing.

[waka-man]

Who told those calling for change don't understand the POTENTIAL consequences?

This is in part a matter of risk vs reward, to stick or twist, and determine whether the potential rewards outweigh those risks.

I strongly suspect we've seen the best Rohr can do - I doubt we'll win AFCON with him or get to the final. Now we're seeing the worst he can do - and who knows whether we've even hit rock bottom with him. The point is, by now we have a clear understanding of his range and capabilities.

Now let's answer your questions:

If Rohr is fired today, what happens next?
A new coach will be appointed.

Who takes over the team without disrupting team balance and chemistry?
What balance, what chemistry?

How do you pay the previous coach (Rohr) and the next coach?
Not my concern.

Who will be the next coach?
If I knew that I'd play the lottery numbers this weekend.

How can you be sure he will be any better than the current coaching crew?
There's always a degree of uncertainty with any appointment. Football doesn't usually provide guarantees. You must know this by now.

How does this disrupt crucial planning for the next phase of qualification?
Hire early to give the new coach as much time as possible for planning minimise any 'disruption'.

How can you ensure the players will buy into a coaching change at this stage?
How many players have come out in support of Rohr...?

Is firing Rohr really the best option, or are there other options to help improve the team without disrupting it?
All things considered, yes. Btw, disruption is not necessarily a bad thing.

KPOM KWEM

[wanaj0]

I asked many times what would be considered success for Rohr!

Rohr cannot win the ANC nor get us out of the 1st round of the WC.

People are worried now because WC qualification is looking doubtful!

All we are seeing now was OBVIOUS after the last WC where we went to learn. Almost 4 years after we are still learning while not improving.

For me, allow Rohr to finish the destruction he started so that there will be no IF.

[Lolly]

Some names should not be mentioned for the SE job again. Oliseh, Yusuf, and Siasia. That boat has sailed.

What about Salisu?

[TonyTheTigerKiller]

This is foolish for several reasons.

1. Unless we fail to qualify for Qatar Rohr cannot be sacked until after the AFCON, he has currently has fulfilled all goals.
2. If we fail to win the AFCON, a new manager will have nine months at best to get used to the team, in which he would only play on the weekend of March 26th and September 24th.

We risk making the same mistakes as we did in 1998, 2002 and 2010.

You do think like a junior.

1. Rohr cannot be sacked until after AFCON???

It is the NFF’s prerogative to sack Rohr whenever they choose as long as they fulfill their obligations to him.

2. Appointing a new coach before AFCON not only gives him time to familiarize himself with the personnel, and win or lose, it also establishes a template to prepare for the playoffs


Cheers.

I believe his contract protects him which is why they are trying to get him to resign.

Obviously, they would prefer if he resigns. If he does, they won’t have to pay him what they owe on his contract but the word is someone has agreed to pay his termination fees.

A poorly performing coach shouldn’t be kept on just to avoid paying him


Cheers.

Similar to the same sponsorships that they have in place that made promises but aren’t actually paying? Some company also promised to be paying ****’s wages and he’s being owed how many months pay…abeg it’s all hot air…

Brings a serious issue, in general, to the fore. Why is Pinnick allowed to hire a coach he can’t afford? Suppose that due to their financial delinquency, Rohr continues to coach because they can’t get rid of him, what happens when his contract finally ends and they still can’t afford to pay him? Will they now give him Badagry as compensation

When well meaning patriots rail against the ill-advised engagement of a foreigner, just for the sake of having a foreign coach, things like that should be given serious consideration before the protestations are dismissed as bad belle


Cheers.

[Cellular]

I see the celebrations here and realize,....Nigerians are dumb.

Be very careful what you wish for....that is all I will say.

We wish for a better team, a team that Rohr can't produce. Nothing to be careful about.

Actually you wish for Rohr to get sacked with the hope you get a better team.
The problem is,...wishing is not a plan!

People like you are a parody of the clueless wishing for what they do not understand.
As I always said, it is very easy to destroy or dismantle, but building takes much more than wishes and mob justice.

If Nigeria fail to qualify for the WC because we messed up the team dynamics and stability by changing the coach at a crucial juncture,...look in a mirror because you and others like you are part of the reason.

Nobe today people like you have been in existence. It is not an insult... you are just risk-averse.

Matthew 25:14-30

People like us (me, yeyeman and others) don't believe in burying one's talent for fear of losing it and getting punished by the wicked master. You have to dream the impossible dream and not be held hostage by your inability to dream big.

[Damunk]

I don't see the need for all the ad hominem insults on this matter.
For God's sake, nobody is winning the lottery here for being right and no-one knows it more than others.