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The Super Eagles are lost under Rohr but sacking him now is not an option



Nigeria are through to the final playoff round of the CAF 2022 World Cup qualifier after playing a 1-1 draw with Cape Verde at the Teslim Balogun Stadium on Tuesday.

But following the result, rumours began to circulate that Gernot Rohr could be sacked as the coach of the Super Eagles.

Many who are not familiar with the Super Eagles could find the rumours shocking because how do you sack a coach who is just two games away from leading his side to the World Cup?

However, if the rumours appear to be true, it is hard to argue that Rohr does not deserve it. Rohr assumed his role as Super Eagles coach in 2016, and he has done a brilliant job.

He took over a team that had failed to qualify for back-to-back Africa Cup of Nations and led them to the 2018 World Cup with a game to spare.

It was not a mere feat. Nigerians are used to using the help of calculators to determine Nigeria’s fate in qualifiers, but Rohr came on and led the team to the 2018 World Cup with ease.

It is even more impressive, considering the Super Eagles beat Algeria, Cameroon and Zambia to pick the qualification ticket.

Although Nigeria got knocked out in the group stages of the 2018 World Cup, Rohr kept his job, which he rightly deserved.

The German tactician continued his qualification feat as he led Nigeria to 2019 AFCON with a game to spare. But the Super Eagles finished third at the end of the tournament, and many felt that should have been the end for him.

However, he held on to his job, which looks like a wrong decision now. While Rohr has done brilliantly by bringing stability to the team, the Super Eagles have regressed under him since the 2019 Nations Cup.

The Super Eagles looked like a lost team under him. The general performance is not exciting to watch, with the team lacking an identity.

Their games are boring to watch and opponents, irrespective of their status, believe they stand a chance against the Super Eagles.

Not only that, Rohr’s player selection and management has also been called into questioning. He is a coach that hardly gives players a chance to show their quality in the team.

He would rather stick to the status quo even though it is obviously not working. Kevin Akpoguma is a player Rohr chased for years, yet since the Hoffenheim defender switched allegiance, he has not gotten a good run of games.

Players like Ola Aina, Semi Ajayi, Tyronne Ebuehi and Chidera Ejuke deserve to play regularly, but they have not been given a fair chance.

Such decisions and the team’s lack of direction has led to calls for his sack, which is the right call. However, while Rohr deserves to go, sacking him now is not an option.

The former Burkina Faso manager signed a two-year contract extension in 2020, with some conditions attached to his new deal.

He was given the objective of winning next year’s AFCON and leading the team to the World Cup. Although it is unlikely he achieves the target, he is still on course, which is why he deserves at least a fair chance.

Also, with the Africa Cup of Nations less than two months away, sacking him now could jeopardise the team’s chance of success, no matter how small it is.

It will be difficult for a new coach to come in now and implement his ideas less than two months before a major tournament.

And given that there are no international breaks between now and January, he will not get the chance to meet the players until a few days before the start of the tournament.

Besides, there are no able replacements right now. And it’s also important to note that the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) will have to pay him a severance package if he is sacked, which the body cannot afford now as they are cash-strapped.

Considering all these factors, sacking Rohr right now is not an option, even though he is out of his depth and the job has outgrown him.

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"Also, with the Africa Cup of Nations less than two months away, sacking him now could jeopardise the team’s chance of success, no matter how small it is."

Not true!

The team has been stagnant for a long time.

I have stated in the past that he was more of a triage specialist who has done his job of stabilizing his patient...

But if you want the long-term recovery of the patient you need a specialist who can take it further.

The guy still has a problem with personnel decisions. Has a problem with tactics especially when he is playing as a favorite. He has a problem with reading a game in a timely fashion and effecting change.

We watched him sit on subs against Argentina that ended up costing us the game. We see him repeating the same folly that nearly cost us the game against Capo Verde.

Contrary to what he might say, we do have a generation of young talent with a level of competition that we haven't had for a long time. Yet, he is bringing back older players to retard the little progress he has made.

He has shown he is incapable of changing that much... don't waste time having him take this team to the AFCON. The AFCON should be a dress rehearsal for the team... with a new coach, it will give the coach an extended time with the players before the final round of qualifiers. In 5+ years **** hasn't learned much... so he ain't learning anything from now to the WC Qualification.

Cellular wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:34 pm "Also, with the Africa Cup of Nations less than two months away, sacking him now could jeopardise the team’s chance of success, no matter how small it is."

Not true!

The team has been stagnant for a long time.

I have stated in the past that he was more of a triage specialist who has done his job of stabilizing his patient...

But if you want the long-term recovery of the patient you need a specialist who can take it further.

The guy still has a problem with personnel decisions. Has a problem with tactics especially when he is playing as a favorite. He has a problem with reading a game in a timely fashion and effecting change.

We watched him sit on subs against Argentina that ended up costing us the game. We see him repeating the same folly that nearly cost us the game against Capo Verde.

Contrary to what he might say, we do have a generation of young talent with a level of competition that we haven't had for a long time. Yet, he is bringing back older players to retard the little progress he has made.

He has shown he is incapable of changing that much... don't waste time having him take this team to the AFCON. The AFCON should be a dress rehearsal for the team... with a new coach, it will give the coach an extended time with the players before the final round of qualifiers. In 5+ years **** hasn't learned much... so he ain't learning anything from now to the WC Qualification.

KPOM!

I haven't kpomed any of your posts since about 2012 so well done!

If Rohr goes to AFCON or the WC we can expect the usual "we're here to learn" bollocks and incomprehensible decisions that he's been serving up for years. Enough is enough.

So now you know. Everybody shouting 'sack him' but as soon as reality hits people are backpedalling.

Nigerians are such poor decision makers.

1, A man has lived up to the terms of his contract, you want to fire him for sentimental reasons but you don't have the money.

2, There's another bench mark coming up in about 90 days that'll allow you to fire him if he's doesn't reach it.

3. If he does meet the terms of the contract in 90days you'll have a better product or you save $600k.

What would you do?

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:44 pm Nigerians are such poor decision makers.

1, A man has lived up to the terms of his contract, you want to fire him for sentimental reasons but you don't have the money.

2, There's another bench mark coming up in about 90 days that'll allow you to fire him if he's doesn't reach it.

3. If he does meet the terms of the contract in 90days you'll have a better product or you save $600k.

What would you do?

Nope. I will still fire him. He has outlived his usefulness! Enough of the heart attack football.

Abbey wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:15 pm

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:44 pm Nigerians are such poor decision makers.

1, A man has lived up to the terms of his contract, you want to fire him for sentimental reasons but you don't have the money.

2, There's another bench mark coming up in about 90 days that'll allow you to fire him if he's doesn't reach it.

3. If he does meet the terms of the contract in 90days you'll have a better product or you save $600k.

What would you do?

Nope. I will still fire him. He has outlived his usefulness! Enough of the heart attack football.

Of course you would. You're not responsible for the fines it would incur. Next time a coach is hired they should put a no heart attack football clause in the contract.

Cellular wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:34 pm "Also, with the Africa Cup of Nations less than two months away, sacking him now could jeopardise the team’s chance of success, no matter how small it is."

Not true!

The team has been stagnant for a long time.

I have stated in the past that he was more of a triage specialist who has done his job of stabilizing his patient...

But if you want the long-term recovery of the patient you need a specialist who can take it further.

The guy still has a problem with personnel decisions. Has a problem with tactics especially when he is playing as a favorite. He has a problem with reading a game in a timely fashion and effecting change.

We watched him sit on subs against Argentina that ended up costing us the game. We see him repeating the same folly that nearly cost us the game against Capo Verde.

Contrary to what he might say, we do have a generation of young talent with a level of competition that we haven't had for a long time. Yet, he is bringing back older players to retard the little progress he has made.

He has shown he is incapable of changing that much... don't waste time having him take this team to the AFCON. The AFCON should be a dress rehearsal for the team... with a new coach, it will give the coach an extended time with the players before the final round of qualifiers. In 5+ years **** hasn't learned much... so he ain't learning anything from now to the WC Qualification.

Awa chair I agree with you, especially the bolded but to pull off this strategy we need:

1) Someone to pay off the current coach - possible

2) Someone willing to pay the future coach without their having the final say and being able to dial up the coach in the middle of matches - barely possible

3) Tapping up possible replacements and having them ready to come in with their staff -
"it was all a dream, I used to read World Soccer magazine..."

4) Having a quick candidate vetting and interview process- Mission Impossible

AFCON will be here and we'll still be debating over every high profile name we can think of. It's not like this is the first time and we have no precedents.

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:24 pm

Abbey wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:15 pm

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:44 pm Nigerians are such poor decision makers.

1, A man has lived up to the terms of his contract, you want to fire him for sentimental reasons but you don't have the money.

2, There's another bench mark coming up in about 90 days that'll allow you to fire him if he's doesn't reach it.

3. If he does meet the terms of the contract in 90days you'll have a better product or you save $600k.

What would you do?

Nope. I will still fire him. He has outlived his usefulness! Enough of the heart attack football.

Of course you would. You're not responsible for the fines it would incur. Next time a coach is hired they should put a no heart attack football clause in the contract.

If you are so sure of this coach's prowess since he has met his contract terms why have you been shaking like a midnight pr!ck lately?

The irony about the whole situation is that Rohr would probably still go on to qualify the team for the WC but once again, the performances won't be pretty (he is German not Dutch)... But how many people will take that over playing like CV, with a better organised and more tactical team, yet be out of the running...

Mr Shows wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:03 pm The irony about the whole situation is that Rohr would probably still go on to qualify the team for the WC but once again, the performances won't be pretty (he is German not Dutch)... But how many people will take that over playing like CV, with a better organised and more tactical team, yet be out of the running...

Style counts for more than results with Nigerians. That's why we have the highest number of private jets but no power,water or hospitals. We stylyynnn!

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:33 pm

Mr Shows wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:03 pm The irony about the whole situation is that Rohr would probably still go on to qualify the team for the WC but once again, the performances won't be pretty (he is German not Dutch)... But how many people will take that over playing like CV, with a better organised and more tactical team, yet be out of the running...

Style counts for more than results with Nigerians. That's why we have the highest number of private jets but no power,water or hospitals. We stylyynnn!

You can play good football and still produce good results, both shouldn't be mutually exclusive you dunce.

The truth is that Rohrs team WAS playing well. Those that say we weren't are liars with agenda.

But this entire 6 game stretch of world cup games. Not one of them left any confidence. The problems started after the Covid break, we never seemed to recover and just kept getting worse.

I've given Rohr enough time to turn the tide but it appears he cannot. Even more worrying is his utter lack of being able to learn from mistakes. He just keeps repeating the same flawed approach with the same flawed players and tactics. This is unforgivable.

Kneedeep wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:40 pm

Cellular wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:34 pm "Also, with the Africa Cup of Nations less than two months away, sacking him now could jeopardise the team’s chance of success, no matter how small it is."

Not true!

The team has been stagnant for a long time.

I have stated in the past that he was more of a triage specialist who has done his job of stabilizing his patient...

But if you want the long-term recovery of the patient you need a specialist who can take it further.

The guy still has a problem with personnel decisions. Has a problem with tactics especially when he is playing as a favorite. He has a problem with reading a game in a timely fashion and effecting change.

We watched him sit on subs against Argentina that ended up costing us the game. We see him repeating the same folly that nearly cost us the game against Capo Verde.

Contrary to what he might say, we do have a generation of young talent with a level of competition that we haven't had for a long time. Yet, he is bringing back older players to retard the little progress he has made.

He has shown he is incapable of changing that much... don't waste time having him take this team to the AFCON. The AFCON should be a dress rehearsal for the team... with a new coach, it will give the coach an extended time with the players before the final round of qualifiers. In 5+ years **** hasn't learned much... so he ain't learning anything from now to the WC Qualification.

Awa chair I agree with you, especially the bolded but to pull off this strategy we need:

1) Someone to pay off the current coach - possible

2) Someone willing to pay the future coach without their having the final say and being able to dial up the coach in the middle of matches - barely possible

3) Tapping up possible replacements and having them ready to come in with their staff -
"it was all a dream, I used to read World Soccer magazine..."

4) Having a quick candidate vetting and interview process- Mission Impossible

AFCON will be here and we'll still be debating over every high profile name we can think of. It's not like this is the first time and we have no precedents.

Onye Nkuzi, jos leave matter and form a prayer line...

vancity eagle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:04 pm
The truth is that Rohrs team WAS playing well. Those that say we weren't are liars with agenda.

But this entire 6 game stretch of world cup games. Not one of them left any confidence. The problems started after the Covid break, we never seemed to recover and just kept getting worse.

I've given Rohr enough time to turn the tide but it appears he cannot. Even more worrying is his utter lack of being able to learn from mistakes. He just keeps repeating the same flawed approach with the same flawed players and tactics. This is unforgivable.

This I completely agree with, the ANC qualification games were much easier on the eye....these WC kwalifiers have been a struggle to watch and yet we continue to create chances.....

Now is a bad time to sack him in my view. Why not just him him an assitant with a personality that can influence his selections but disciplined/financially secure enough not to be collected pay for play. Someone like Finidi, Adepoju, or Amuneke would have been a good assistant to him instead of Yobo that is a bit too fresh off the mill.

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:33 pm

Mr Shows wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:03 pm The irony about the whole situation is that Rohr would probably still go on to qualify the team for the WC but once again, the performances won't be pretty (he is German not Dutch)... But how many people will take that over playing like CV, with a better organised and more tactical team, yet be out of the running...

Style counts for more than results with Nigerians. That's why we have the highest number of private jets but no power,water or hospitals. We stylyynnn!

please show me the titles we have won in the 5 years period. Because i need to know what you mean by results.

oscar52 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:15 am Now is a bad time to sack him in my view. Why not just him him an assitant with a personality that can influence his selections but disciplined/financially secure enough not to be collected pay for play. Someone like Finidi, Adepoju, or Amuneke would have been a good assistant to him instead of Yobo that is a bit too fresh off the mill.

blacks, always wanting their own to be second to a white man! who cursed you? tufia!

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:44 pm Nigerians are such poor decision makers.

1, A man has lived up to the terms of his contract, you want to fire him for sentimental reasons but you don't have the money.

2, There's another bench mark coming up in about 90 days that'll allow you to fire him if he's doesn't reach it.

3. If he does meet the terms of the contract in 90days you'll have a better product or you save $600k.

What would you do?

There's such a thing as being a penny wise and a pound foolish.

mystic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:26 am

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:44 pm Nigerians are such poor decision makers.

1, A man has lived up to the terms of his contract, you want to fire him for sentimental reasons but you don't have the money.

2, There's another bench mark coming up in about 90 days that'll allow you to fire him if he's doesn't reach it.

3. If he does meet the terms of the contract in 90days you'll have a better product or you save $600k.

What would you do?

There's such a thing as being a penny wise and a pound foolish.

mystic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:26 am

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:44 pm Nigerians are such poor decision makers.

1, A man has lived up to the terms of his contract, you want to fire him for sentimental reasons but you don't have the money.

2, There's another bench mark coming up in about 90 days that'll allow you to fire him if he's doesn't reach it.

3. If he does meet the terms of the contract in 90days you'll have a better product or you save $600k.

What would you do?

There's such a thing as being a penny wise and a pound foolish.

You know with folks like Emir, you have to know that they go for, "Cheap over best value".