The NEW SE COACH HAS BEEN REVEALED

[vancity eagle]

This guy should not be hired.

[EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA]

On this new rumored coach, I ask:

What exactly does he bring to the table. Surely that his resume isn't all that.

Now, I like the fact that he is young.

What is his approach to the game? Or are we simply going to swallow the fact that he is European as if that makes him Godsent.

Enugu,

I'd like to direct your attention to the 3 questions I asked last week, and

The Who has been identified. He's a younger than Rohr Serbian with a thin resume. Ok. Good enough.
What's still unanswered (I see forumers don't want to address it) is the issue of what he'll be hired to accomplish. Is it to play beautiful football? Win AFCON ? Or Get to the wc semis? What are we hiring him to do?

Emir

That question is for the NFF.

However, for me I will be satisfied with winning AFCON and getting beyond opening rounds of the WC and doing consistently well against lower ranked teams. Yes, he should attempt to win the WC [lol] but realistically not winning it is not the end of the world for Nigeria. We just neither have the pedigree nor do we have consistently top level players to help deliver that. Those are my primary hope and hopefully he can do that playing exciting ball.

Now you have my answer.

Hmmm, but the current coach is on course to that without having to cough up
$600k. Besides, has a coach ever won AFCON or any continental trophy with 2 months on the job? I think you're sharp enough to know your expectations are unrealistic with the caliber of coach in question.

[aruako1]

I will say this. I do not trust any Nigerian coach to not show complete bias and influence in his player selection. They are likely to try and market local players, we've seen it plenty in the past so why should I assume any different.

The good thing about a foreigner is that he will just come and choose the best players, no bias.

Were there to be a guarantee that Amuneke would choose the best players, I might consider him over this guy, but this guy has been to a world cup.

If a Nigerian has made exactly the same choices as Rohr, you would have accused him of being on the take. But you put a caveat on Amuneke for the sole reason of his nationality. You don't know the Serbian but you have already concluded that he has more integrity due to his skin colour.

Aruako, please don’t fall your hand by echoing this stupid “white skin” stuff.
It is so petty.
Bias on this board is against Nigerian coaches in favor of foreigners, not “white people”.
And this is only because of the mucky stories we get to hear about Nigerian coaches almost without exception.
Of course not all have been shown to be true but muck does stick and there is enough evidence for one to be at least wary.

But give us a Viera, a Nuno or even a retired Rijkaard any day and Nigerians will embrace them even harder than any Oyibo coach.
I think the anti-Rohr crowd use this ‘white thing’ to belittle anyone with a counter argument and trivialize anything they have to say.

It is about skin colour and it is not just a football thing. Is it not the same country where multinationals treat white foreigners better than black foreigners? We have not had black foreign coaches yet so we don't have that comparison.

It is not an anti-Rohr thing for me. Look at my posts here. Going into the 2018 World Cup I was fully in support of Rohr. I only started wavering after that World Cup but I still wanted him in until the WC qualifiers this year. My comments on the Serbian have been more positive than most.

I only speak out when local coaches are held to a different standard. That doesn't make me anti-foreign coach.

But you have just accused someone specifically of bias in favor of white skin on this specific issue of SE coach.
I have regularly been accused of the same thing and so have many others for simply making a specific case for Rohr.
It’s a widely used put down and you are casually tapping into it to further your argument. The only difference here is that you are not overtly using the ‘WOWO’ slur, but you are simply saying the same thing.

It has no bearing on the specific debate being had here, so you now opening up the issue to reflect the goings on in Nigerian society as a whole simply for convenience is being disingenuous, which tbh is unlike you.

The converse situation would be to accuse your stance as being racist. But we know that is not the case and no one has ever suggested that or made the accusation becos it would be equally dubious.

I stand by what I said. White SE coaches have been given a "not corrupt" label while black ones get the "corrupt" label. The poster that I referred to has consistently made such insinuations. I have not used it as a put down. I have no issues with Rohr who us a great man manager and a gentleman.

It is no secret that I would prefer local coaches. However, I have always supported our coaches until I feel it was time for a change. My favourite Nigeria coach is Phillipe Troussier and he is French.

[EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA]

If we have to fire Rohr, I believe we shouldn't. the best long-term option would be to hand the team over to Finidi, Amunike and olofinjana as Tech Adviser, Lead coach and scout respectively under a new Nff chair.

[ohenhen1]

I like the age. I want a manager that can relate to players and have new modern ideas Need to do more research. Will give him a chance like any coach before him. Wish for success. But the fire will be lit if the team is not getting better. Nigerian coach is always under pressure.

[Enugu II]

On this new rumored coach, I ask:

What exactly does he bring to the table. Surely that his resume isn't all that.

Now, I like the fact that he is young.

What is his approach to the game? Or are we simply going to swallow the fact that he is European as if that makes him Godsent.

Enugu,

I'd like to direct your attention to the 3 questions I asked last week, and

The Who has been identified. He's a younger than Rohr Serbian with a thin resume. Ok. Good enough.
What's still unanswered (I see forumers don't want to address it) is the issue of what he'll be hired to accomplish. Is it to play beautiful football? Win AFCON ? Or Get to the wc semis? What are we hiring him to do?

Emir

That question is for the NFF.

However, for me I will be satisfied with winning AFCON and getting beyond opening rounds of the WC and doing consistently well against lower ranked teams. Yes, he should attempt to win the WC [lol] but realistically not winning it is not the end of the world for Nigeria. We just neither have the pedigree nor do we have consistently top level players to help deliver that. Those are my primary hope and hopefully he can do that playing exciting ball.

Now you have my answer.

Hmmm, but the current coach is on course to that without having to cough up
$600k. Besides, has a coach ever won AFCON or any continental trophy with 2 months on the job? I think you're sharp enough to know your expectations are unrealistic with the caliber of coach in question.

Well, Emir, many people do not believe he is on-course and that is exactly why his firing is being discussed. The three underwhelming home results -- an incredibly poor result at home within a short period -- in more than half of century of football provides an alarming signal and they decided it was time to cut the link now than be sorry later.

[ohenhen1]

2 years as Bosnia head coach. 2 years as Bosnia national team assistant. Not a wow getting you buzzing hire. But you never know. A short term contract is the way to go. If he does well we can renegotiate for a longer deal. The article is mixing up the former talent rich Yugoslavia (Serbia) with Bosnia{Serbia and Montenegro. There is a huge difference in terms of quality of play or managers

[vancity eagle]

Serbia coach, not Bosnia.

[azuka]

I hope he can speak English or how is he going to communicate with the players?

[iworo]

This guy should not be hired.

Who da **** is Mladen Krstajić? When the likes of Herve Renhard are there! We might think it's bad now, might be worse after Rohr. I checked so many Serbian soccer forums today and his country folks are having a field day laughing at us. The common theme about the dude is that he’s not professional at all. I’m not sure about this dude. Here are some of the comments I came across.

[TonyTheTigerKiller]

I’m still holding out hope that the news of the “new” coach is just a rumor. What evidence is there that he is more competent than any of the local probables


Cheers.

[vancity eagle]

If this is true, it is likely he isn't being paid much, and that is probably a major factor. I think this is a desperate hire. We can do better.

[kalani JR]

Yeye. There is a Nigerian coach somewhere qualified and ethical enough to coach Nigeria. No foreign coach has ever won the worldcup.

This is mostly because the top countries don't hire foreign managers.

[vancity eagle]

Yeye. There is a Nigerian coach somewhere qualified and ethical enough to coach Nigeria. No foreign coach has ever won the worldcup.

This is mostly because the top countries don't hire foreign managers.

No mind am.

What he said has no relevance to winning world cups. It's just a meaningless talking point.

[Damunk]

All this just reflects the stark reality.
Nigeria is not going to get a top flight coach from anywhere.
Not abroad. Not at home.

All so predictable, but the “anybody but Rohr” brigade was loud and vocal as were the “it’s-not-my-role-to-suggest-a-replacement” cop-outters.

Might as well stick with our very, very, very limited home options and then fast and pray to God for ‘delivery’.

[gochino]

Africa the cursed land. I guess the only Europeans we can afford are Eastern Europeans. When are we ever going to look within? When will Europe exploitation of Africa with the help of Africans end? I am yet to see a Nigerian coach a European National team.

The Nigerians that are heading teams and in positions of leadership in the corporate world out there did not reach those positions by complaining and not doing the hard work to be even better than their Oyibo peers.
They did not get there because they did not have to fight racism left, right and center.
They did not get there because there were no glass ceilings to be smashed.

More impressively, many of them got their basic education in Nigeria.
You might even be one of them sef.

So don’t come at us lamenting about Nigerian coaches not getting jobs in Oyibo teams.
We have enough problems with our local coaches in Nigeria not improving themselves for Nigerian teams.
Abeg.

But you have one in Amuneke that has taken every opportunity to improve himself and put himself out there and some Nigerians are ruling him out solely because "all Nigerian coaches are corrupt". If Amuneke dies not get the job because the next person is better then that is fine. But this "all Nigerian coaches are corrupt" mantra has to stop.

Not true.
Like I told you before, Amuneke wouldn’t have been on your radar if not for the fact that he is Nigerian.
Change his name to Emmanuel Amunez and slot in his CV amongst a batch of applicants and he’d be way down on your list, if even on that list at all.
~ Out of work for two years
~ ‘Parted ways’ with an Egyptian club in very suspicious circumstances after just 4 weeks.
~ Coached a national team to dead last with zero points at the last AFCON after qualifying them. Again, ‘parted ways’.
~ Won gold at the world U17 level six years ago.

Come on man….you think this is good enough for the SE?
Tanzania sacked him after three wins, two draws and six defeats!
Tanzania.

We love him but he is not the man for the Super Eagles right now.

Just like Xavi would not be in Barcelona's radar if he was not a former player. Xavi has not coached in any European league. Amuneke's record with Tanzania would be poor if Tanzania was not at the level where they had not qualified for the Nations Cup for nearly 30 years before he took over. What type of record did you expect with such a team?

The U-17 team he coached now has a few of our top players.

But it us ok if you don't want him because you feel he is not good enough...you are entitled to that opinion. But rejecting him because "all Nigerian coaches are corrupt" is plain wrong.

Good point! What of Guardiola? Xavi was already coaching a team and not some amateur team in division 3 like Guardiola.

[Synopsis]

This is fake news.

[gochino]

Let us look at the last few Nigerian coaches

Oliseh - Dropped Mikel (Nigerias best player) for a scrub in Finland. Beefed with all his top players.

Keshi - initially dropped all foreign based players for locals, when this was failing he brought the fb back to save his blushes. He kept out Ike Uche, Odemwingie, Joel Obi, etc. for scrubs The wuru wuru was at levels never before seen in SE.

SSS - was OK but had an obsession with Promise Isaac

Now if you compare Rohr to these guys, with the exception of SSS, whatever wuru wuru we can claim Rohr was up to is nowhere near their levels.

Again I exclude SSS but he wasn't in charge for long, and he had nowhere near the amount of talent to work with as Rohr.

Bros, one can make a similar list regarding Rohr. Start with inviting a semi pro to the national team, think of the controversy surrounding Musa who is past his prime. There are more. So selectively noting a few things and then alleging them as trait of Nigerian coaches is neither here nor there.

This is just sad and shows some of us have real complex issues! Rohr keeps inviting Shehu, a bench warmer in Cyprus, keeps playing Musa when everybody and their Grand mothers can see he is not even close to the best player we have in that position. He ignores Denis and Awoniyi and then goes ahead to invite a slow and overweight retiree from Saudi! Again every one except Herr Rohr can see the player does not fit in. If Keshi and Oliseh do these it's called corruption but Rohr does it,it is called " interuption from NFF" Why??

[Tobi17]

This is fake news.

Mind telling us how it's fake news?

[Damunk]

Let us look at the last few Nigerian coaches

Oliseh - Dropped Mikel (Nigerias best player) for a scrub in Finland. Beefed with all his top players.

Keshi - initially dropped all foreign based players for locals, when this was failing he brought the fb back to save his blushes. He kept out Ike Uche, Odemwingie, Joel Obi, etc. for scrubs The wuru wuru was at levels never before seen in SE.

SSS - was OK but had an obsession with Promise Isaac

Now if you compare Rohr to these guys, with the exception of SSS, whatever wuru wuru we can claim Rohr was up to is nowhere near their levels.

Again I exclude SSS but he wasn't in charge for long, and he had nowhere near the amount of talent to work with as Rohr.

Bros, one can make a similar list regarding Rohr. Start with inviting a semi pro to the national team, think of the controversy surrounding Musa who is past his prime. There are more. So selectively noting a few things and then alleging them as trait of Nigerian coaches is neither here nor there.

This is just sad and shows some of us have real complex issues! Rohr keeps inviting Shehu, a bench warmer in Cyprus, keeps playing Musa when everybody and their Grand mothers can see he is not even close to the best player we have in that position. He ignores Denis and Awoniyi and then goes ahead to invite a slow and overweight retiree from Saudi! Again every one except Herr Rohr can see the player does not fit in. If Keshi and Oliseh do these it's called corruption but Rohr does it,it is called " interuption from NFF" Why??

So what would YOU call it, make we know.

[aruako1]

Let us look at the last few Nigerian coaches

Oliseh - Dropped Mikel (Nigerias best player) for a scrub in Finland. Beefed with all his top players.

Keshi - initially dropped all foreign based players for locals, when this was failing he brought the fb back to save his blushes. He kept out Ike Uche, Odemwingie, Joel Obi, etc. for scrubs The wuru wuru was at levels never before seen in SE.

SSS - was OK but had an obsession with Promise Isaac

Now if you compare Rohr to these guys, with the exception of SSS, whatever wuru wuru we can claim Rohr was up to is nowhere near their levels.

Again I exclude SSS but he wasn't in charge for long, and he had nowhere near the amount of talent to work with as Rohr.

Bros, one can make a similar list regarding Rohr. Start with inviting a semi pro to the national team, think of the controversy surrounding Musa who is past his prime. There are more. So selectively noting a few things and then alleging them as trait of Nigerian coaches is neither here nor there.

This is just sad and shows some of us have real complex issues! Rohr keeps inviting Shehu, a bench warmer in Cyprus, keeps playing Musa when everybody and their Grand mothers can see he is not even close to the best player we have in that position. He ignores Denis and Awoniyi and then goes ahead to invite a slow and overweight retiree from Saudi! Again every one except Herr Rohr can see the player does not fit in. If Keshi and Oliseh do these it's called corruption but Rohr does it,it is called " interuption from NFF" Why??

So what would YOU call it, make we know.

It is a coach making a decision that I do not agree with.

[aruako1]

All this just reflects the stark reality.
Nigeria is not going to get a top flight coach from anywhere.
Not abroad. Not at home.

All so predictable, but the “anybody but Rohr” brigade was loud and vocal as were the “it’s-not-my-role-to-suggest-a-replacement” cop-outters.

Might as well stick with our very, very, very limited home options and then fast and pray to God for ‘delivery’.

Rohr had to go. And there have been many suggestions for replacements. You are the one that has decided that you do not like the suggestions. And it is NFF that chooses to hire or fire anyway.

[kalani JR]

All this just reflects the stark reality.
Nigeria is not going to get a top flight coach from anywhere.
Not abroad. Not at home.

All so predictable, but the “anybody but Rohr” brigade was loud and vocal as were the “it’s-not-my-role-to-suggest-a-replacement” cop-outters.

Might as well stick with our very, very, very limited home options and then fast and pray to God for ‘delivery’.

This was always going to be the case.