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Once a year, you make a sensible post.EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:19 am If we have to fire Rohr, I believe we shouldn't. the best long-term option would be to hand the team over to Finidi, Amunike and olofinjana as Tech Adviser, Lead coach and scout respectively under a new Nff chair.
The local coach or coaches can't work under this present administration led by Pinnick.deanotito wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 pm Look, I’m fairly certain that if they hire this guy, I will just leave this team for them.
The truth is that it’s becoming clear that our team cannot overcome a corrupt and craven administration. The only way this hire makes any sense to anyone is if they’re getting a kickback. And I don’t want to waste my time supporting a team that ultimately can’t go anywhere because it’s badly run.
Hate to leave the SE. Na my only team be dat. But with hires like this, it’s a waste of time
It is you and that b4st4trd **** who will regret his life! Thunda faya you! nonsense!
Yet I'm being told that it is not about skin colour.Cellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:09 pmThe local coach or coaches can't work under this present administration led by Pinnick.deanotito wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 pm Look, I’m fairly certain that if they hire this guy, I will just leave this team for them.
The truth is that it’s becoming clear that our team cannot overcome a corrupt and craven administration. The only way this hire makes any sense to anyone is if they’re getting a kickback. And I don’t want to waste my time supporting a team that ultimately can’t go anywhere because it’s badly run.
Hate to leave the SE. Na my only team be dat. But with hires like this, it’s a waste of time
When you tell him about hiring a Naijarian or even a black coach he will make some asinine comment about, "I know my people". Implying that they will coach with prejudice and bias... but he doesn't care about the bigger picture.
Cellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:09 pmThe local coach or coaches can't work under this present administration led by Pinnick.deanotito wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 pm Look, I’m fairly certain that if they hire this guy, I will just leave this team for them.
The truth is that it’s becoming clear that our team cannot overcome a corrupt and craven administration. The only way this hire makes any sense to anyone is if they’re getting a kickback. And I don’t want to waste my time supporting a team that ultimately can’t go anywhere because it’s badly run.
Hate to leave the SE. Na my only team be dat. But with hires like this, it’s a waste of time
When you tell him about hiring a Naijarian or even a black coach he will make some asinine comment about, "I know my people". Implying that they will coach with prejudice and bias... but he doesn't care about the bigger picture.
Cellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:09 pmThe local coach or coaches can't work under this present administration led by Pinnick.deanotito wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 pm Look, I’m fairly certain that if they hire this guy, I will just leave this team for them.
The truth is that it’s becoming clear that our team cannot overcome a corrupt and craven administration. The only way this hire makes any sense to anyone is if they’re getting a kickback. And I don’t want to waste my time supporting a team that ultimately can’t go anywhere because it’s badly run.
Hate to leave the SE. Na my only team be dat. But with hires like this, it’s a waste of time
When you tell him about hiring a Naijarian or even a black coach he will make some asinine comment about, "I know my people". Implying that they will coach with prejudice and bias... but he doesn't care about the bigger picture.
You do know that DIVERSITY in hiring starts with a conscious attempt at doing it.txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:07 pmCellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:09 pmThe local coach or coaches can't work under this present administration led by Pinnick.deanotito wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 pm Look, I’m fairly certain that if they hire this guy, I will just leave this team for them.
The truth is that it’s becoming clear that our team cannot overcome a corrupt and craven administration. The only way this hire makes any sense to anyone is if they’re getting a kickback. And I don’t want to waste my time supporting a team that ultimately can’t go anywhere because it’s badly run.
Hate to leave the SE. Na my only team be dat. But with hires like this, it’s a waste of time
When you tell him about hiring a Naijarian or even a black coach he will make some asinine comment about, "I know my people". Implying that they will coach with prejudice and bias... but he doesn't care about the bigger picture.
The idea should never be simply to hire a black coach, but a good on black, white, yellow.... There's no bigger picture than competence.
I am not familiar with Pinick’s comments or actions towards black coaches in general.Cellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:43 pmYou do know that DIVERSITY in hiring starts with a conscious attempt at doing it.txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:07 pmCellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:09 pmThe local coach or coaches can't work under this present administration led by Pinnick.deanotito wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 pm Look, I’m fairly certain that if they hire this guy, I will just leave this team for them.
The truth is that it’s becoming clear that our team cannot overcome a corrupt and craven administration. The only way this hire makes any sense to anyone is if they’re getting a kickback. And I don’t want to waste my time supporting a team that ultimately can’t go anywhere because it’s badly run.
Hate to leave the SE. Na my only team be dat. But with hires like this, it’s a waste of time
When you tell him about hiring a Naijarian or even a black coach he will make some asinine comment about, "I know my people". Implying that they will coach with prejudice and bias... but he doesn't care about the bigger picture.
The idea should never be simply to hire a black coach, but a good on black, white, yellow.... There's no bigger picture than competence.
It is not happenstance or the claptrap about competence. You have to want to do it first...
Pinnick has an affinity for anything foreign. He just does not believe in local capacity or a blackman like him being capable... or seeing Naijaria as a place that could take the lead in providing an opportunity for hundreds of black coaches who don't get the opportunity. Pinnick perpetuates a narrative about local coaches or even black coaches.
Exactly. Amaju's history about things foreign v things local is well documented
VEvancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:34 pm But he was proven right.
How did Oliseh "lemme beef with players" work out ?
Pinnick is right to be skeptical about Nigerian coaches, I dont blame him one bit.
Cellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:43 pmYou do know that DIVERSITY in hiring starts with a conscious attempt at doing it.txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:07 pmCellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:09 pmThe local coach or coaches can't work under this present administration led by Pinnick.deanotito wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 pm Look, I’m fairly certain that if they hire this guy, I will just leave this team for them.
The truth is that it’s becoming clear that our team cannot overcome a corrupt and craven administration. The only way this hire makes any sense to anyone is if they’re getting a kickback. And I don’t want to waste my time supporting a team that ultimately can’t go anywhere because it’s badly run.
Hate to leave the SE. Na my only team be dat. But with hires like this, it’s a waste of time
When you tell him about hiring a Naijarian or even a black coach he will make some asinine comment about, "I know my people". Implying that they will coach with prejudice and bias... but he doesn't care about the bigger picture.
The idea should never be simply to hire a black coach, but a good on black, white, yellow.... There's no bigger picture than competence.
It is not happenstance or the claptrap about competence. You have to want to do it first...
Pinnick has an affinity for anything foreign. He just does not believe in local capacity or a blackman like him being capable... or seeing Naijaria as a place that could take the lead in providing an opportunity for hundreds of black coaches who don't get the opportunity. Pinnick perpetuates a narrative about local coaches or even black coaches.
What about Finidi and Egbo Ndubuisi?txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:03 pmCellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:09 pmThe local coach or coaches can't work under this present administration led by Pinnick.deanotito wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 pm Look, I’m fairly certain that if they hire this guy, I will just leave this team for them.
The truth is that it’s becoming clear that our team cannot overcome a corrupt and craven administration. The only way this hire makes any sense to anyone is if they’re getting a kickback. And I don’t want to waste my time supporting a team that ultimately can’t go anywhere because it’s badly run.
Hate to leave the SE. Na my only team be dat. But with hires like this, it’s a waste of time
When you tell him about hiring a Naijarian or even a black coach he will make some asinine comment about, "I know my people". Implying that they will coach with prejudice and bias... but he doesn't care about the bigger picture.
If we are entirely honest with ourselves, few if any of our ex-internationals have shown enough professional dedication and ambition to transition into top level coaches.
Why do I say this? Cus I've seen quite a few of their contemporaries from other African countries go thru the process without seeking short cuts, most recent being Yaya Toure who spent a couple of the last few months with Klopp at LFC.
The closest remains Oliseh and we know the history already...
At this point in time, we should not need to be hiring foreign managers. But atm, we do lack quality options, and not even at the level of potential...
Even worse, it does not look like changing for a while longer...
maceo4 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:40 pmWhat about Finidi and Egbo Ndubuisi?txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:03 pmCellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:09 pmThe local coach or coaches can't work under this present administration led by Pinnick.deanotito wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 pm Look, I’m fairly certain that if they hire this guy, I will just leave this team for them.
The truth is that it’s becoming clear that our team cannot overcome a corrupt and craven administration. The only way this hire makes any sense to anyone is if they’re getting a kickback. And I don’t want to waste my time supporting a team that ultimately can’t go anywhere because it’s badly run.
Hate to leave the SE. Na my only team be dat. But with hires like this, it’s a waste of time
When you tell him about hiring a Naijarian or even a black coach he will make some asinine comment about, "I know my people". Implying that they will coach with prejudice and bias... but he doesn't care about the bigger picture.
If we are entirely honest with ourselves, few if any of our ex-internationals have shown enough professional dedication and ambition to transition into top level coaches.
Why do I say this? Cus I've seen quite a few of their contemporaries from other African countries go thru the process without seeking short cuts, most recent being Yaya Toure who spent a couple of the last few months with Klopp at LFC.
The closest remains Oliseh and we know the history already...
At this point in time, we should not need to be hiring foreign managers. But atm, we do lack quality options, and not even at the level of potential...
Even worse, it does not look like changing for a while longer...
Egbo won the 1st division league there and coached in UEFA CL and Europa which is more than Oliseh has ever achieved. Wonder why he’s always the one propped up when he hasn’t done that much either.txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:52 pmmaceo4 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:40 pmWhat about Finidi and Egbo Ndubuisi?txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:03 pmCellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:09 pmThe local coach or coaches can't work under this present administration led by Pinnick.deanotito wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 pm Look, I’m fairly certain that if they hire this guy, I will just leave this team for them.
The truth is that it’s becoming clear that our team cannot overcome a corrupt and craven administration. The only way this hire makes any sense to anyone is if they’re getting a kickback. And I don’t want to waste my time supporting a team that ultimately can’t go anywhere because it’s badly run.
Hate to leave the SE. Na my only team be dat. But with hires like this, it’s a waste of time
When you tell him about hiring a Naijarian or even a black coach he will make some asinine comment about, "I know my people". Implying that they will coach with prejudice and bias... but he doesn't care about the bigger picture.
If we are entirely honest with ourselves, few if any of our ex-internationals have shown enough professional dedication and ambition to transition into top level coaches.
Why do I say this? Cus I've seen quite a few of their contemporaries from other African countries go thru the process without seeking short cuts, most recent being Yaya Toure who spent a couple of the last few months with Klopp at LFC.
The closest remains Oliseh and we know the history already...
At this point in time, we should not need to be hiring foreign managers. But atm, we do lack quality options, and not even at the level of potential...
Even worse, it does not look like changing for a while longer...
Finidi just started at Enyimba. Ordinarily, a league should serve as a laboratory for coaches to grow in the game, but we do not have a functional domestic game...
Don't really know much about Egbo except hat he was at Tirana in Albania to finish out a season after the manager and his assistants were fired and then subsequently...This hardly pulls up any trees...
Egbo won the Albanian league, the cup and Super Cup in three years as a player with KF Tirana.
After holding the coaching job on an interim basis many times before, he was appointed partway through the season in late 2019, with Tirana eighth in the 10-team division.
But the former Super Eagles keeper, who is a duel Nigerian-Albanian national, realised the local media had labelled his old team a 'sinking ship' got to work and swiftly turned things around by bringing a new attitude to the club.
Results improved as he guided the team to a 16-game unbeaten run, stepped things up by winning 20 out of 23 matches which culminated in FK Tirana being crowned the Kategoria Superiore champions in the 100th year of the club's formation.
maceo4 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:05 pmEgbo won the 1st division league there and coached in UEFA CL and Europa which is more than Oliseh has ever achieved. Wonder why he’s always the one propped up when he hasn’t done that much either.txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:52 pmmaceo4 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:40 pmWhat about Finidi and Egbo Ndubuisi?txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:03 pmCellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:09 pmThe local coach or coaches can't work under this present administration led by Pinnick.deanotito wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 pm Look, I’m fairly certain that if they hire this guy, I will just leave this team for them.
The truth is that it’s becoming clear that our team cannot overcome a corrupt and craven administration. The only way this hire makes any sense to anyone is if they’re getting a kickback. And I don’t want to waste my time supporting a team that ultimately can’t go anywhere because it’s badly run.
Hate to leave the SE. Na my only team be dat. But with hires like this, it’s a waste of time
When you tell him about hiring a Naijarian or even a black coach he will make some asinine comment about, "I know my people". Implying that they will coach with prejudice and bias... but he doesn't care about the bigger picture.
If we are entirely honest with ourselves, few if any of our ex-internationals have shown enough professional dedication and ambition to transition into top level coaches.
Why do I say this? Cus I've seen quite a few of their contemporaries from other African countries go thru the process without seeking short cuts, most recent being Yaya Toure who spent a couple of the last few months with Klopp at LFC.
The closest remains Oliseh and we know the history already...
At this point in time, we should not need to be hiring foreign managers. But atm, we do lack quality options, and not even at the level of potential...
Even worse, it does not look like changing for a while longer...
Finidi just started at Enyimba. Ordinarily, a league should serve as a laboratory for coaches to grow in the game, but we do not have a functional domestic game...
Don't really know much about Egbo except hat he was at Tirana in Albania to finish out a season after the manager and his assistants were fired and then subsequently...This hardly pulls up any trees...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... 931341.amp
Egbo won the Albanian league, the cup and Super Cup in three years as a player with KF Tirana.
After holding the coaching job on an interim basis many times before, he was appointed partway through the season in late 2019, with Tirana eighth in the 10-team division.
But the former Super Eagles keeper, who is a duel Nigerian-Albanian national, realised the local media had labelled his old team a 'sinking ship' got to work and swiftly turned things around by bringing a new attitude to the club.
Results improved as he guided the team to a 16-game unbeaten run, stepped things up by winning 20 out of 23 matches which culminated in FK Tirana being crowned the Kategoria Superiore champions in the 100th year of the club's formation.
Oliseh coached in which division though, and didn’t lead his team to promotion. To me Egbos coaching experience reads better than Oliseh. Esp. being a champion and coaching in the CL. Oliseh just talks a good game, but has sucked at every actual coaching job he’s had…txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:10 pmmaceo4 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:05 pmEgbo won the 1st division league there and coached in UEFA CL and Europa which is more than Oliseh has ever achieved. Wonder why he’s always the one propped up when he hasn’t done that much either.txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:52 pmmaceo4 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:40 pmWhat about Finidi and Egbo Ndubuisi?txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:03 pmCellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:09 pmThe local coach or coaches can't work under this present administration led by Pinnick.deanotito wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 pm Look, I’m fairly certain that if they hire this guy, I will just leave this team for them.
The truth is that it’s becoming clear that our team cannot overcome a corrupt and craven administration. The only way this hire makes any sense to anyone is if they’re getting a kickback. And I don’t want to waste my time supporting a team that ultimately can’t go anywhere because it’s badly run.
Hate to leave the SE. Na my only team be dat. But with hires like this, it’s a waste of time
When you tell him about hiring a Naijarian or even a black coach he will make some asinine comment about, "I know my people". Implying that they will coach with prejudice and bias... but he doesn't care about the bigger picture.
If we are entirely honest with ourselves, few if any of our ex-internationals have shown enough professional dedication and ambition to transition into top level coaches.
Why do I say this? Cus I've seen quite a few of their contemporaries from other African countries go thru the process without seeking short cuts, most recent being Yaya Toure who spent a couple of the last few months with Klopp at LFC.
The closest remains Oliseh and we know the history already...
At this point in time, we should not need to be hiring foreign managers. But atm, we do lack quality options, and not even at the level of potential...
Even worse, it does not look like changing for a while longer...
Finidi just started at Enyimba. Ordinarily, a league should serve as a laboratory for coaches to grow in the game, but we do not have a functional domestic game...
Don't really know much about Egbo except hat he was at Tirana in Albania to finish out a season after the manager and his assistants were fired and then subsequently...This hardly pulls up any trees...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... 931341.amp
Egbo won the Albanian league, the cup and Super Cup in three years as a player with KF Tirana.
After holding the coaching job on an interim basis many times before, he was appointed partway through the season in late 2019, with Tirana eighth in the 10-team division.
But the former Super Eagles keeper, who is a duel Nigerian-Albanian national, realised the local media had labelled his old team a 'sinking ship' got to work and swiftly turned things around by bringing a new attitude to the club.
Results improved as he guided the team to a 16-game unbeaten run, stepped things up by winning 20 out of 23 matches which culminated in FK Tirana being crowned the Kategoria Superiore champions in the 100th year of the club's formation.
In Albania. That's a hard, hard sell...He needs more than that esp as he was never a high profile player...
maceo4 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:30 pmOliseh coached in which division though, and didn’t lead his team to promotion. To me Egbos coaching experience reads better than Oliseh. Esp. being a champion and coaching in the CL. Oliseh just talks a good game, but has sucked at every actual coaching job he’s had…txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:10 pmmaceo4 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:05 pmEgbo won the 1st division league there and coached in UEFA CL and Europa which is more than Oliseh has ever achieved. Wonder why he’s always the one propped up when he hasn’t done that much either.txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:52 pmmaceo4 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:40 pmWhat about Finidi and Egbo Ndubuisi?txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:03 pmCellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:09 pm
The local coach or coaches can't work under this present administration led by Pinnick.
When you tell him about hiring a Naijarian or even a black coach he will make some asinine comment about, "I know my people". Implying that they will coach with prejudice and bias... but he doesn't care about the bigger picture.
If we are entirely honest with ourselves, few if any of our ex-internationals have shown enough professional dedication and ambition to transition into top level coaches.
Why do I say this? Cus I've seen quite a few of their contemporaries from other African countries go thru the process without seeking short cuts, most recent being Yaya Toure who spent a couple of the last few months with Klopp at LFC.
The closest remains Oliseh and we know the history already...
At this point in time, we should not need to be hiring foreign managers. But atm, we do lack quality options, and not even at the level of potential...
Even worse, it does not look like changing for a while longer...
Finidi just started at Enyimba. Ordinarily, a league should serve as a laboratory for coaches to grow in the game, but we do not have a functional domestic game...
Don't really know much about Egbo except hat he was at Tirana in Albania to finish out a season after the manager and his assistants were fired and then subsequently...This hardly pulls up any trees...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... 931341.amp
Egbo won the Albanian league, the cup and Super Cup in three years as a player with KF Tirana.
After holding the coaching job on an interim basis many times before, he was appointed partway through the season in late 2019, with Tirana eighth in the 10-team division.
But the former Super Eagles keeper, who is a duel Nigerian-Albanian national, realised the local media had labelled his old team a 'sinking ship' got to work and swiftly turned things around by bringing a new attitude to the club.
Results improved as he guided the team to a 16-game unbeaten run, stepped things up by winning 20 out of 23 matches which culminated in FK Tirana being crowned the Kategoria Superiore champions in the 100th year of the club's formation.
In Albania. That's a hard, hard sell...He needs more than that esp as he was never a high profile player...
We have hired foreign coaches that have not taken us past where we have proven we can go with local coaches, the only constant is a local NFF board. Maybe it is time we look at hiring some salaried foreign administrators to see if they can do better.Cellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:09 pmThe local coach or coaches can't work under this present administration led by Pinnick.deanotito wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 pm Look, I’m fairly certain that if they hire this guy, I will just leave this team for them.
The truth is that it’s becoming clear that our team cannot overcome a corrupt and craven administration. The only way this hire makes any sense to anyone is if they’re getting a kickback. And I don’t want to waste my time supporting a team that ultimately can’t go anywhere because it’s badly run.
Hate to leave the SE. Na my only team be dat. But with hires like this, it’s a waste of time
When you tell him about hiring a Naijarian or even a black coach he will make some asinine comment about, "I know my people". Implying that they will coach with prejudice and bias... but he doesn't care about the bigger picture.
I guess to you and Pinnick, competency comes automatically with skin color?txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:14 pmCellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:43 pmYou do know that DIVERSITY in hiring starts with a conscious attempt at doing it.txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:07 pmCellular wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:09 pmThe local coach or coaches can't work under this present administration led by Pinnick.deanotito wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 pm Look, I’m fairly certain that if they hire this guy, I will just leave this team for them.
The truth is that it’s becoming clear that our team cannot overcome a corrupt and craven administration. The only way this hire makes any sense to anyone is if they’re getting a kickback. And I don’t want to waste my time supporting a team that ultimately can’t go anywhere because it’s badly run.
Hate to leave the SE. Na my only team be dat. But with hires like this, it’s a waste of time
When you tell him about hiring a Naijarian or even a black coach he will make some asinine comment about, "I know my people". Implying that they will coach with prejudice and bias... but he doesn't care about the bigger picture.
The idea should never be simply to hire a black coach, but a good on black, white, yellow.... There's no bigger picture than competence.
It is not happenstance or the claptrap about competence. You have to want to do it first...
Pinnick has an affinity for anything foreign. He just does not believe in local capacity or a blackman like him being capable... or seeing Naijaria as a place that could take the lead in providing an opportunity for hundreds of black coaches who don't get the opportunity. Pinnick perpetuates a narrative about local coaches or even black coaches.
Diversity does not mean that you must hire a black coach. It just means that you give blacks a fair consideration among others.
What you pointed out above is a competency issue re Pinnick, and that is separate from what I'm talking about.
Our goal is to hire a competent manager not to prove a point.
You forgot to add.... (@FIFAWorldCupNGA) Russia 2018.Enugu II wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:27 pmExactly. Amaju's history about things foreign v things local is well documented
1. Furniture issues
2. His first camping of young lads in London.
3. His statements about managers. It took the weight of his VP to even get him to hire Oliseh.
Let us be frank, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
