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txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:18 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:16 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:11 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:07 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:55 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:36 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:14 pm EII,

Perhaps you should review stories like this and consider if its worth posting.

Naaa

I post whatever including things that I disagree with. I just believe we ought to be aware of all things possible.

That wasn't really my point though...

Its about unwittingly propagating wrong or misleading information esp one that damages the country/NFF..

Txj

The way I see it is that have no PR responsibility for Nigeria or the NFF. My responsibility, as I see it is providing information on media reports about Nigerian football.

That's what patriotism is about, no?

Txj

There is a difference between patriotism and censorship.

Its not censorship if the piece is already out there.

What you've done is effectively help spread it. Help spread disinformation...

joao wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:43 am This stupidity needs be nipped in the bud by the government. What some might think is a joke
is what can cause a lot of damage to the country. Nigerians should realize that the lawlessness
we are used to may not be acceptable world wide. If we want to belong to the community of
nations, we should stop acting carelessly, lest our actions cost us more than we can imagine.
I'm truly surprised by some of the respondents to this thread.

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:26 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:18 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:16 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:11 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:07 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:55 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:36 pm

Naaa

I post whatever including things that I disagree with. I just believe we ought to be aware of all things possible.

That wasn't really my point though...

Its about unwittingly propagating wrong or misleading information esp one that damages the country/NFF..

Txj

The way I see it is that have no PR responsibility for Nigeria or the NFF. My responsibility, as I see it is providing information on media reports about Nigerian football.

That's what patriotism is about, no?

Txj

There is a difference between patriotism and censorship.

Its not censorship if the piece is already out there.

What you've done is effectively help spread it. Help spread disinformation...

It is censorship when I use your mechanism to cut it off this site. The locus is displaying on this site. Is it not? That is censorship as far as this location is the focus. Or else you are referring about my posting it elsewhere.

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:35 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:26 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:18 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:16 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:11 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:07 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:55 pm



That wasn't really my point though...

Its about unwittingly propagating wrong or misleading information esp one that damages the country/NFF..

Txj

The way I see it is that have no PR responsibility for Nigeria or the NFF. My responsibility, as I see it is providing information on media reports about Nigerian football.

That's what patriotism is about, no?

Txj

There is a difference between patriotism and censorship.

Its not censorship if the piece is already out there.

What you've done is effectively help spread it. Help spread disinformation...

It is censorship when I use your mechanism to cut it off this site. The locus is displaying on this site. Is it not? That is censorship as far as this location is the focus. Or else you are referring about my posting it elsewhere.

The decision level is not freedom vs censorship.

The story is ALREADY out there and anybody can access it out there, WITHOUT restriction.

The decision is whether to further disseminate misleading information or not to.
When you post it here, you contribute to disinformation...

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:45 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:35 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:26 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:18 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:16 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:11 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:07 pm

Txj

The way I see it is that have no PR responsibility for Nigeria or the NFF. My responsibility, as I see it is providing information on media reports about Nigerian football.

That's what patriotism is about, no?

Txj

There is a difference between patriotism and censorship.

Its not censorship if the piece is already out there.

What you've done is effectively help spread it. Help spread disinformation...

It is censorship when I use your mechanism to cut it off this site. The locus is displaying on this site. Is it not? That is censorship as far as this location is the focus. Or else you are referring about my posting it elsewhere.

The decision level is not freedom vs censorship.

The story is ALREADY out there and anybody can access it out there, WITHOUT restriction.

The decision is whether to further disseminate misleading information or not to.
When you post it here, you contribute to disinformation...

Txj

There is nothing false about the fact that Peterside made those statements. Someone here already acknowledged as much.

There is absolutely nothing wrong posting it here. Peterside made the statement and it definitely has a value as a discussion piece. All you have to do is stare your position either way on the matter as I have but not to preclude discussion. Afterall, this is first a discussion site and not one designed to censor discussion.

In my view, my goal is to present pieces that generate such discussions whether I agree or not agree with the content. I will not self censor such discussion.

Kabalega wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:08 pm Why are Nigerians not happy with their coach?
The guy has a winning record (28w-13d-13l) last time I checked. That's more wins than loses and draws combined.

To top it all off, he is German! The likes of Jurgen Klopp and Ralf Rangnick go to him for advice and vice versa

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:48 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:45 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:35 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:26 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:18 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:16 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:11 pm


That's what patriotism is about, no?

Txj

There is a difference between patriotism and censorship.

Its not censorship if the piece is already out there.

What you've done is effectively help spread it. Help spread disinformation...

It is censorship when I use your mechanism to cut it off this site. The locus is displaying on this site. Is it not? That is censorship as far as this location is the focus. Or else you are referring about my posting it elsewhere.

The decision level is not freedom vs censorship.

The story is ALREADY out there and anybody can access it out there, WITHOUT restriction.

The decision is whether to further disseminate misleading information or not to.
When you post it here, you contribute to disinformation...

Txj

There is nothing false about the fact that Peterside made those statements. Someone here already acknowledged as much.

There is absolutely nothing wrong posting it here. Peterside made the statement and it definitely has a value as a discussion piece. All you have to do is stare your position either way on the matter as I have but not to preclude discussion. Afterall, this is first a discussion site and not one designed to censor discussion.

In my view, my goal is to present pieces that generate such discussions whether I agree or not agree with the content. I will not self censor such discussion.

Peterside made a false statement.

The only real value it offers to post/discuss it is to further disseminate and sustain false information

I understand/agree with the idea of generating discussion on Nigerian football, but it should not be at the expense of the truth...

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:18 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:48 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:45 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:35 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:26 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:18 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:16 pm

Txj

There is a difference between patriotism and censorship.

Its not censorship if the piece is already out there.

What you've done is effectively help spread it. Help spread disinformation...

It is censorship when I use your mechanism to cut it off this site. The locus is displaying on this site. Is it not? That is censorship as far as this location is the focus. Or else you are referring about my posting it elsewhere.

The decision level is not freedom vs censorship.

The story is ALREADY out there and anybody can access it out there, WITHOUT restriction.

The decision is whether to further disseminate misleading information or not to.
When you post it here, you contribute to disinformation...

Txj

There is nothing false about the fact that Peterside made those statements. Someone here already acknowledged as much.

There is absolutely nothing wrong posting it here. Peterside made the statement and it definitely has a value as a discussion piece. All you have to do is stare your position either way on the matter as I have but not to preclude discussion. Afterall, this is first a discussion site and not one designed to censor discussion.

In my view, my goal is to present pieces that generate such discussions whether I agree or not agree with the content. I will not self censor such discussion.

Peterside made a false statement.

The only real value it offers to post/discuss it is to further disseminate and sustain false information

I understand/agree with the idea of generating discussion on Nigerian football, but it should not be at the expense of the truth...

Txj

Not that it matters but how did you determine that Peterside made a false statement? Were you prr chance in the room when Peterside heard the statement as he claimed?

txj wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:49 am

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:18 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:48 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:45 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:35 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:26 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:18 pm



Its not censorship if the piece is already out there.

What you've done is effectively help spread it. Help spread disinformation...

It is censorship when I use your mechanism to cut it off this site. The locus is displaying on this site. Is it not? That is censorship as far as this location is the focus. Or else you are referring about my posting it elsewhere.

The decision level is not freedom vs censorship.

The story is ALREADY out there and anybody can access it out there, WITHOUT restriction.

The decision is whether to further disseminate misleading information or not to.
When you post it here, you contribute to disinformation...

Txj

There is nothing false about the fact that Peterside made those statements. Someone here already acknowledged as much.

There is absolutely nothing wrong posting it here. Peterside made the statement and it definitely has a value as a discussion piece. All you have to do is stare your position either way on the matter as I have but not to preclude discussion. Afterall, this is first a discussion site and not one designed to censor discussion.

In my view, my goal is to present pieces that generate such discussions whether I agree or not agree with the content. I will not self censor such discussion.

Peterside made a false statement.

The only real value it offers to post/discuss it is to further disseminate and sustain false information

I understand/agree with the idea of generating discussion on Nigerian football, but it should not be at the expense of the truth...

Txj

Not that it matters but how did you determine that Peterside made a false statement? Were you prr chance in the room when Peterside heard the statement as he claimed?

Because he's neither a govt or NFF official nor a spokesperson for either.
What is more, the NFF has denied to substantive issue...

Odas wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:08 pm

Kabalega wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:08 pm Why are Nigerians not happy with their coach?
The guy has a winning record (28w-13d-13l) last time I checked. That's more wins than loses and draws combined.

To top it all off, he is German! The likes of Jurgen Klopp and Ralf Rangnick go to him for advice and vice versa

Oga Kabalege, we see your point and agree it's so, but at moment, the record you stated is no longer attractive to us for coach to stay.

Maybe, you should employ him for your national team.

deanotito wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:17 am This is all part of the ploy to force him to resign rather than pay him what he is due. If Rohr doesn’t resign, but stays abroad, they will fire him for cause and not pay him nothing. Classic gangster move that shouldn’t be in the reserve for a national association.

If I were Rohr, I will refuse to resign. Simply contact the German embassy, arrange your own security and stay in Nigeria. No harm will come to him.

Kabalega wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:31 am

Odas wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:08 pm

Kabalega wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:08 pm Why are Nigerians not happy with their coach?
The guy has a winning record (28w-13d-13l) last time I checked. That's more wins than loses and draws combined.

To top it all off, he is German! The likes of Jurgen Klopp and Ralf Rangnick go to him for advice and vice versa

Oga Kabalege, we see your point and agree it's so, but at moment, the record you stated is no longer attractive to us for coach to stay.

Maybe, you should employ him for your national team.

So whom do you want to replace him with?
Lagerback, a local, or someone in between like Oliseh?

charlie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:22 pm
Just remember,...empty vessels always make the loudest noise. But it doesnt mean that this loud group speak for the rest of Nigerians at home and in the diaspora.