Rohr's record in competitive matches with Nigeria

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Gernot Rohr's Record in Competitive matches with Nigeria


1. Tanzania 1:0 *W*
2. Zambia 2:1 *W*
3. Algeria 3:1 *W*
4. South Africa 0:2 L
5. Cameroun 4:0 *W*
6. Cameroun 1:1 D
7. Zambia 1:0 *W*
8. Algeria 1:1* D (later L)
9. Croatia 0:2 L
10. Iceland 2:0 *W*
11. Argentina 1:2 L
12. Seychelles 3:0 *W*
13. Libya 4:0 *W*
14. Libya 3:2 *W*
15. South Africa 1:1 D
16. Seychelles 3:1 *W*
17. Burundi 1:0 *W*
18. Guinea 1:0 *W*
19. Madagascar 0:2 *L*
20. Cameroun 3:2 *W*
21. South Africa 2:1 *W*
22. Algeria 1:2 L
23. Tunisia 1:0 *W*
24. Benin 2:1 *W*
25. Sierra Leone 4:4 D
26. Sierra Leone 0:0 D
27. Lesotho 4:2 *W*
28. Benin 1:0 *W*
29. Lesotho 3:0 *W*
30. Liberia 2:0 *W*
31. Cape Verde 2:1 *W*
32. CAR 0:1 L
33. CAR 2:0 *W*
34. Liberia 2:0 *W*
35. Cape Verde 1:1 D
Egypt
Sudan
Guinea Bussau

35 matches
23 Wins
6 Draws
6 Losses

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Rohr 66%
Amodu 65%
Westerhof 59%
Keshi 50%


*Rohr*
23-6-6
won 23/35
*66%*

*Amodu*
24-10-3
won 24/37
*65%*

*Westerhof*
24-9-8
Won 24/41
*59%*

*Keshi*
16-10-6
won 16/32
*50%*


Ethiopia 1:0 Nigeria during Westerhof era is given to Chukwu


Eguavoen
9-1-2
Won 9/12
*75%*

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Rohr has the best winning record for a Nigeria coach

15 matches as a benchmark

[Enugu II]

Rohr 66%
Amodu 65%
Westerhof 59%
Keshi 50%


*Rohr*
23-6-6
won 23/35
*66%*

*Amodu*
24-10-3
won 24/37
*65%*

*Westerhof*
24-9-8
Won 24/41
*59%*

*Keshi*
16-10-6
won 16/32
*50%*


Ethiopia 1:0 Nigeria during Westerhof era is given to Chukwu


Eguavoen
9-1-2
Won 9/12
*75%*

Megapro,

How are you? It has been a long time.

Thanks for putting this up so that the performance in competitive games become apparent. I think people are likely aware of Rohr's record giving that he is the guy currently at the helm. I am frankly surprised that Amodu lost just three games! Is that correct? I suspect it is but it is still shocking. As for Rohr, I believe the issue is more to do with the results obtained AT HOME against lower level competition.

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Long time Bros

Amodu lost only two AFCON SF and the Egypt 2010 AFCON opener

Both never had fantastic test games

Rohr won 3 from 14 friendly matches

[Enugu II]

Long time Bros

Amodu lost only two AFCON SF and the Egypt 2010 AFCON opener

Both never had fantastic test games

Rohr won 3 from 14 friendly matches

I thought Rohr won more friendlies. But for me friendlies are neither here nor there. The big ones are the competitive games. In Rohr's case, his friendlies were mostly against top ranked teams.

Thanks for the data and your presence here is needed frequently to keep us up with the data.

[ohenhen1]

Westerhoff 1 Afcon title, 1 silver medal.
Keshi 1 Afcon title
Rohr how many Afcon titles?

[Cellular]

Westerhoff 1 Afcon title, 1 silver medal.
Keshi 1 Afcon title
Rohr how many Afcon titles?

He is learning...

Meanwhile, Keshi only lost 6 games in spite and despite NFF shenenegans.


Don't even mention Amodu...

Apparently, they are the last of credible Naijarians who can coach.

[EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA]

Kai....see people avoiding this thread like a plague. Megapro don release truth bomb.

[Adisboy]

Westerhoff 1 Afcon title, 1 silver medal.
Keshi 1 Afcon title
Rohr how many Afcon titles?

He is learning...

Meanwhile, Keshi only lost 6 games in spite and despite NFF shenenegans.


Don't even mention Amodu...

Apparently, they are the last of credible Naijarians who can coach.

This how many AFCONs thing should rest especially when mentioning Westerhoff. Westerhoff won on his 3rd attempt. Rohr has been to only 1, and still finished at the podium. Let's revisit in February, then you can make the comparisons.

[Enugu II]

Westerhoff 1 Afcon title, 1 silver medal.
Keshi 1 Afcon title
Rohr how many Afcon titles?

He is learning...

Meanwhile, Keshi only lost 6 games in spite and despite NFF shenenegans.


Don't even mention Amodu...

Apparently, they are the last of credible Naijarians who can coach.

This how many AFCONs thing should rest especially when mentioning Westerhoff. Westerhoff won on his 3rd attempt. Rohr has been to only 1, and still finished at the podium. Let's revisit in February, then you can make the comparisons.

Adis

Correct but we realize Keshi won on his first attempt, right? Rohr has indeed been to only one AFCON which is a fair point.

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Westerhoff 1 Afcon title, 1 silver medal.
Keshi 1 Afcon title
Rohr how many Afcon titles?

Ohenhen
Long time

Westerhof won his third AFCON
Rohr has gone once

Westerhof qualified for the WC at his second attempt
Rohr is on course to qualify for his second WC

When Rohr came

14/07/2016

Nigeria had just fallen off the football map and Radar
After failing to qualify of the 2015 and 2017 AFCON

If pots were drawn then

AFRICA FIFA Ranking
July 2016

Pot 1
1. Algeria 28
2. CIV 30
3. Ghana 31
4. Senegal 41
5. Egypt 43

Pot 2
6. Tunisia 53
7. Morocco 54
8. Congo DR 58
9. Mali 60
10. Cape Verde 61

Pot 3
11. Guinea 62
12. South Africa 63
13. Benin 68
14. Uganda 69
15. Congo 70

Nigeria looked like not a football country
Behind Uganda and Benin in FIFA

He has taken Nigeria to Pot 1
While almost all the countries previously ahead of him including Egypt, Cameroun, CIV, Ghana, Congo DR, Mali are in lower pots

[Enugu II]

Westerhoff 1 Afcon title, 1 silver medal.
Keshi 1 Afcon title
Rohr how many Afcon titles?

Ohenhen
Long time

Westerhof won his third AFCON
Rohr has gone once

Westerhof qualified for the WC at his second attempt
Rohr is on course to qualify for his second WC

When Rohr came

14/07/2016

Nigeria had just fallen off the football map and Radar
After failing to qualify of the 2015 and 2017 AFCON

If pots were drawn then

AFRICA FIFA Ranking
July 2016

Pot 1
1. Algeria 28
2. CIV 30
3. Ghana 31
4. Senegal 41
5. Egypt 43

Pot 2
6. Tunisia 53
7. Morocco 54
8. Congo DR 58
9. Mali 60
10. Cape Verde 61

Pot 3
11. Guinea 62
12. South Africa 63
13. Benin 68
14. Uganda 69
15. Congo 70

Nigeria looked like not a football country
Behind Uganda and Benin in FIFA

He has taken Nigeria to Pot 1
While almost all the countries previously ahead of him including Egypt, Cameroun, CIV, Ghana, Congo DR, Mali are in lower pots

Megapro,

I doubt that anyone argues that Rohr had not improved Nigeria's ranking. That is clear. In fact, at one time, based on Nigeria's ranking it was impossible for players to get automatic permit to play in England.

The issue, however, is that most recently the team has regressed under Gernot Rohr and that it is demonstrated with three shock home results against lowly ranked teams. Those poor results will be hard to find in recent history going as far back to pre-Tiko (That is decades ago!). That is the angst.

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Rohr was asked if he can qualify for the AFCON
Seeing that Nigeria failed 2015 and 2017
He claimed he could

He was given targets 001

Qualify for the AFCON
(He did with a game to spare)
Qualify for the WC
(He did with a game to spare)
Toughest Nigeria WCq group ever with all group members AFCON champions that decade
Get to the SF of the AFCON
(In winning a record 5 tournament games he not only qualified for the SF but got bronze)

After AFCON
Many fans wanted him sacked
Morocco needed a coach
Nigeria offered a new contract as well as refresher course

He was retained and given targets 002

Qualify for AFCON 2022
(He did with two games to spare)
Qualify for the WC
(He topped the qualifying group and is on course)
AFCON SF and WC second round far ahead

He has met ALL targets
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[Enugu II]

Rohr was asked if he can qualify for the AFCON
Seeing that Nigeria failed 2015 and 2017
He claimed he could

He was given targets 001

Qualify for the AFCON
(He did with a game to spare)
Qualify for the WC
(He did with a game to spare)
Toughest Nigeria WCq group ever with all winners AFCON champions that decade
Get to the SF of the AFCON
(In winning a record 5 tournament games he not only qualified for the SF but got bronze)

After AFCON
Many fans wanted him sacked
Morocco needed a coach
Nigeria offered a new contract as well as refresher course

He was retained and given targets 002

Qualify for AFCON 2022
(He did with two games to spare)
Qualify for the WC
(He topped the qualifying group and is on course)
AFCON SF and WC second round far ahead

He has met ALL targets
<

There is no doubt that he has met the targets. That is not in doubt.

However, no one envisaged meeting the targets and posting poor results, at home, against lowly ranked teams. Not even those who despised his tenure envisaged that. That is why there is a misgiving about him now.

There is a feeling that the team is on a downward trajectory.

[megapro]

Westerhoff 1 Afcon title, 1 silver medal.
Keshi 1 Afcon title
Rohr how many Afcon titles?

Ohenhen
Long time

Westerhof won his third AFCON
Rohr has gone once

Westerhof qualified for the WC at his second attempt
Rohr is on course to qualify for his second WC

When Rohr came

14/07/2016

Nigeria had just fallen off the football map and Radar
After failing to qualify of the 2015 and 2017 AFCON

If pots were drawn then

AFRICA FIFA Ranking
July 2016

Pot 1
1. Algeria 28
2. CIV 30
3. Ghana 31
4. Senegal 41
5. Egypt 43

Pot 2
6. Tunisia 53
7. Morocco 54
8. Congo DR 58
9. Mali 60
10. Cape Verde 61

Pot 3
11. Guinea 62
12. South Africa 63
13. Benin 68
14. Uganda 69
15. Congo 70

Nigeria looked like not a football country
Behind Uganda and Benin in FIFA

He has taken Nigeria to Pot 1
While almost all the countries previously ahead of him including Egypt, Cameroun, CIV, Ghana, Congo DR, Mali are in lower pots

Megapro,

I doubt that anyone argues that Rohr had not improved Nigeria's ranking. That is clear. In fact, at one time, based on Nigeria's ranking it was impossible for players to get automatic permit to play in England.

The issue, however, is that most recently the team has regressed under Gernot Rohr and that it is demonstrated with three shock home results against lowly ranked teams. Those poor results will be hard to find in recent history going as far back to pre-Tiko (That is decades ago!). That is the angst.

E2
It is understandable
CAR loss is both embarrassing and annoying

In 2021
I will however not call Cape Verde and Sierra Leone home draws a shock
He lost most neutrals after the 4:4 draw

But then these coaches see qualifying matches with just one objective:
To qualify

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Long time Bros

Amodu lost only two AFCON SF and the Egypt 2010 AFCON opener

Both never had fantastic test games

Rohr won 3 from 14 friendly matches

I thought Rohr won more friendlies. But for me friendlies are neither here nor there. The big ones are the competitive games. In Rohr's case, his friendlies were mostly against top ranked teams.

Thanks for the data and your presence here is needed frequently to keep us up with the data.

E2

Rohr won only 3 friendlies but from 17 if you add the 0:4 to Mexico
Won just 1 from last 14

Senegal 1:1
Argentina 4:2
Poland 1:0
Serbia 0:2
Congo 1:1
England 1:2
Czech 0:1
Uganda 0:0
Egypt 1:0
Zimbabwe 0:0
Ukraine 2:2
Brazil 1:1
Algeria 0:1
Tunisia 1:1
Cameroun 0:1
Cameroun 0:0
Mexico 0:4

But like Amodu (who never lost any Qualifiers in several stints and alongside Keshi that did not record any loss in their first 16 competitive games for the NT) said
"Friendly matches are to get together and rub minds"

Rohr has won none of his last 8

[megapro]

Kai....see people avoiding this thread like a plague. Megapro don release truth bomb.

[Damunk]

This is an evidence thread, not “feelings”.

[Lolly]

Westerhoff 1 Afcon title, 1 silver medal.
Keshi 1 Afcon title
Rohr how many Afcon titles?

E pain am

[Lolly]

Rohr was asked if he can qualify for the AFCON
Seeing that Nigeria failed 2015 and 2017
He claimed he could

He was given targets 001

Qualify for the AFCON
(He did with a game to spare)
Qualify for the WC
(He did with a game to spare)
Toughest Nigeria WCq group ever with all winners AFCON champions that decade
Get to the SF of the AFCON
(In winning a record 5 tournament games he not only qualified for the SF but got bronze)

After AFCON
Many fans wanted him sacked
Morocco needed a coach
Nigeria offered a new contract as well as refresher course

He was retained and given targets 002

Qualify for AFCON 2022
(He did with two games to spare)
Qualify for the WC
(He topped the qualifying group and is on course)
AFCON SF and WC second round far ahead

He has met ALL targets
<

There is no doubt that he has met the targets. That is not in doubt.

However, no one envisaged meeting the targets and posting poor results, at home, against lowly ranked teams. Not even those who despised his tenure envisaged that. That is why there is a misgiving about him now.

There is a feeling that the team is on a downward trajectory.

Did you envisage the very good away results he has been getting?

[Lolly]

Long time Bros

Amodu lost only two AFCON SF and the Egypt 2010 AFCON opener

Both never had fantastic test games

Rohr won 3 from 14 friendly matches

I thought Rohr won more friendlies. But for me friendlies are neither here nor there. The big ones are the competitive games. In Rohr's case, his friendlies were mostly against top ranked teams.

Thanks for the data and your presence here is needed frequently to keep us up with the data.

E2

Rohr won only 3 friendlies but from 17 if you add the 0:4 to Mexico
Won just 1 from last 14

Senegal 1:1
Argentina 4:2
Poland 1:0
Serbia 0:2
Congo 1:1
England 1:2
Czech 0:1
Uganda 0:0
Egypt 1:0
Zimbabwe 0:0
Ukraine 2:2
Brazil 1:1
Algeria 0:1
Tunisia 1:1
Cameroun 0:1
Cameroun 0:0
Mexico 0:4

But like Amodu (who never lost any Qualifiers in several stints and alongside Keshi that did not record any loss in their first 16 competitive games for the NT) said
"Friendly matches are to get together and rub minds"

Rohr has won none of his last 8

Won 3
Drew 8
Lost 6

Very poor friendly record. And this is one of reasons the team has regressed. Rohr has not taken advantage of the friendly games to work on and improve our weak points.

[Damunk]

Long time Bros

Amodu lost only two AFCON SF and the Egypt 2010 AFCON opener

Both never had fantastic test games

Rohr won 3 from 14 friendly matches

I thought Rohr won more friendlies. But for me friendlies are neither here nor there. The big ones are the competitive games. In Rohr's case, his friendlies were mostly against top ranked teams.

Thanks for the data and your presence here is needed frequently to keep us up with the data.

E2

Rohr won only 3 friendlies but from 17 if you add the 0:4 to Mexico
Won just 1 from last 14

Senegal 1:1
Argentina 4:2
Poland 1:0
Serbia 0:2
Congo 1:1
England 1:2
Czech 0:1
Uganda 0:0
Egypt 1:0
Zimbabwe 0:0
Ukraine 2:2
Brazil 1:1
Algeria 0:1
Tunisia 1:1
Cameroun 0:1
Cameroun 0:0
Mexico 0:4

But like Amodu (who never lost any Qualifiers in several stints and alongside Keshi that did not record any loss in their first 16 competitive games for the NT) said
"Friendly matches are to get together and rub minds"

Rohr has won none of his last 8

Won 3
Drew 8
Lost 6

Very poor friendly record. And this is one of reasons the team has regressed. Rohr has not taken advantage of the friendly games to work on and improve our weak points.

These are the kind of fact-based discussions I prefer, not all the emotional stuff.
The case for sacking Ruhr is an emotional one, not a factual one.
Which is fair enough, but let us at least have an honest discussion and acknowledge it.

This is a very poor friendly record withough a doubt. But it’s interesting that the restless crowd has always maintained that “friendlies don’t count”, esp when early successes vs Brazil, Ukraine and Argentina were being discussed.

Now that argument implies that competitive games are the legitimate marker for performance, but the results do not support their “dismiss him” argument. Not even remotely. That’s why they are in a bind.

So they are left with the emotional argument anchored on “unimpressive play” and the undebatable yet overstretched difference between a one-off AFCON gold and an AFCON bronze which ultimately hinged on a brilliant 90th minute Mahrez penalty….okay, 89th minute.

That’s the nature of the debate and doesn’t to me sound like an honest one.

Having said that, it does not take away from the subjective point - which I actually share - that Rohr's teams have been very unimpressive in the last two years.

But they’ve got the results.
So…