What if Eguavoen wins Afcon?
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What if Eguavoen wins Afcon?
I know it's a long shot due to the fake crisis created by Pinnick but it's a possibility nonetheless. The same set of players that were deemed good enough to win weeks ago are still the ones going to Afcon. Even without Osihmen the SE are still contenders, other teams have won Afcon with much less firepower that we currently have.
Will the Nff actually give the job to a new coach if Eguavoen wins? Will the Nff be able to stand the pressure to keep Eguavoen if he wins? Hmmmm...it's not as unlikely as we might think that SE win with Eguavoen.
I'd even suggest that all he has to do is get to the finals with a markedly improved SE to put Peakmilk in an untenable position.
Pesiero might be the first coach to be hired and to never coach. Siddonlook mode activated.
Will the Nff actually give the job to a new coach if Eguavoen wins? Will the Nff be able to stand the pressure to keep Eguavoen if he wins? Hmmmm...it's not as unlikely as we might think that SE win with Eguavoen.
I'd even suggest that all he has to do is get to the finals with a markedly improved SE to put Peakmilk in an untenable position.
Pesiero might be the first coach to be hired and to never coach. Siddonlook mode activated.
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If he wins the AFCON then he stays as coach simple, it will be absolutely daft of the NFF to further waste money on some foreign guy right before the thick of a world cup playoff when the current manager already has the momentum.
For me if Eguavoen gets to the semi-final, then that's success in itself given the circumstance of our shoddy coaching situation... he should stay.
For me if Eguavoen gets to the semi-final, then that's success in itself given the circumstance of our shoddy coaching situation... he should stay.
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Re: What if Eguavoen wins Afcon?
But they've already hired his replacement. What next? And, what will be the goal for coach Peso?Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:41 am If he wins the AFCON then he stays as coach simple, it will be absolutely daft of the NFF to further waste money on some foreign guy right before the thick of a world cup playoff when the current manager already has the momentum.
For me if Eguavoen gets to the semi-final, then that's success in itself given the circumstance of our shoddy coaching situation... he should stay.
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Re: What if Eguavoen wins Afcon?
Egbon I tire for NFF, they're so clueless that it befuddles me, the goal is simple for Peseiro, qualify for the world cup and get to the round of 16 at the very least... The only good thing is that the Jose Peseiro guy will be close to the coaching staffs and team at the AFCON so he will acquaint himself with the whole structure... but the question remains, will Peseiro stick to the core of these team or build his own team with the process of elimination if the current one doesn't fit into his style of football?EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:48 amBut they've already hired his replacement. What next? And, what will be the goal for coach Peso?Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:41 am If he wins the AFCON then he stays as coach simple, it will be absolutely daft of the NFF to further waste money on some foreign guy right before the thick of a world cup playoff when the current manager already has the momentum.
For me if Eguavoen gets to the semi-final, then that's success in itself given the circumstance of our shoddy coaching situation... he should stay.
Re: What if Eguavoen wins Afcon?
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:03 am I know it's a long shot due to the fake crisis created by Pinnick but it's a possibility nonetheless. The same set of players that were deemed good enough to win weeks ago are still the ones going to Afcon. Even without Osihmen the SE are still contenders, other teams have won Afcon with much less firepower that we currently have.
Will the Nff actually give the job to a new coach if Eguavoen wins? Will the Nff be able to stand the pressure to keep Eguavoen if he wins? Hmmmm...it's not as unlikely as we might think that SE win with Eguavoen.
I'd even suggest that all he has to do is get to the finals with a markedly improved SE to put Peakmilk in an untenable position.
Pesiero might be the first coach to be hired and to never coach. Siddonlook mode activated.
If what you are saying happens, Peseiro would not be the first to be hired without coaching. To the best of my knowledge that distinction belongs to Carlos Alberto Pereira (the late Brazilian legend) whom we hired after after the 1998 Mundial.
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Re: What if Eguavoen wins Afcon?
mystic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:30 amEMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:03 am I know it's a long shot due to the fake crisis created by Pinnick but it's a possibility nonetheless. The same set of players that were deemed good enough to win weeks ago are still the ones going to Afcon. Even without Osihmen the SE are still contenders, other teams have won Afcon with much less firepower that we currently have.
Will the Nff actually give the job to a new coach if Eguavoen wins? Will the Nff be able to stand the pressure to keep Eguavoen if he wins? Hmmmm...it's not as unlikely as we might think that SE win with Eguavoen.
I'd even suggest that all he has to do is get to the finals with a markedly improved SE to put Peakmilk in an untenable position.
Pesiero might be the first coach to be hired and to never coach. Siddonlook mode activated.
If what you are saying happens, Peseiro would not be the first to be hired without coaching. To the best of my knowledge that distinction belongs to Carlos Alberto Pereira (the late Brazilian legend) whom we hired after after the 1998 Mundial.
Shaaii..... we don do am before. Google says it's Carlos Alberto Torres, I don't remember that far back. When did that happen? Kai, so Pinnick used an old trick. No wonder Eguaveon isn't bothered. Pinnick is diabolical.
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Re: What if Eguavoen wins Afcon?
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:40 ammystic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:30 amEMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:03 am I know it's a long shot due to the fake crisis created by Pinnick but it's a possibility nonetheless. The same set of players that were deemed good enough to win weeks ago are still the ones going to Afcon. Even without Osihmen the SE are still contenders, other teams have won Afcon with much less firepower that we currently have.
Will the Nff actually give the job to a new coach if Eguavoen wins? Will the Nff be able to stand the pressure to keep Eguavoen if he wins? Hmmmm...it's not as unlikely as we might think that SE win with Eguavoen.
I'd even suggest that all he has to do is get to the finals with a markedly improved SE to put Peakmilk in an untenable position.
Pesiero might be the first coach to be hired and to never coach. Siddonlook mode activated.
If what you are saying happens, Peseiro would not be the first to be hired without coaching. To the best of my knowledge that distinction belongs to Carlos Alberto Pereira (the late Brazilian legend) whom we hired after after the 1998 Mundial.
Shaaii..... we don do am before. Google says it's Carlos Alberto Torres, I don't remember that far back. When did that happen? Kai, so Pinnick used an old trick. No wonder Eguaveon isn't bothered. Pinnick is diabolical.
You're right. It's Torres.
Re: What if Eguavoen wins Afcon?
Hiring a new coach, that will not be involved with AFCON shows the thinking process ofEMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:03 am I know it's a long shot due to the fake crisis created by Pinnick but it's a possibility nonetheless. The same set of players that were deemed good enough to win weeks ago are still the ones going to Afcon. Even without Osihmen the SE are still contenders, other teams have won Afcon with much less firepower that we currently have.
Will the Nff actually give the job to a new coach if Eguavoen wins? Will the Nff be able to stand the pressure to keep Eguavoen if he wins? Hmmmm...it's not as unlikely as we might think that SE win with Eguavoen.
I'd even suggest that all he has to do is get to the finals with a markedly improved SE to put Peakmilk in an untenable position.
Pesiero might be the first coach to be hired and to never coach. Siddonlook mode activated.
NFF management. We can simply imagine how things will look if Eguavoen wins AFCON, and the
new coach fails to qualify the SE for the World Cup. That will surely expose Pinnick and fellow
'stake holders' to ridicule.
Knowing the mentality of some of us, I hope that when things start going well at AFCON, evil minds
don't try to sabotage the team for personal interests.
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Re: What if Eguavoen wins Afcon?
Pinnick and co. will sabotage Eguavoen to make sure he does not succeed. Eguavoen has been at AFCON many times as a player and once as a Manager, so he has tournament experience. Hopefully he can pull a 'Keshi' on them , just not sure he is as mentally strong as the late Keshi.joao wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:06 amHiring a new coach, that will not be involved with AFCON shows the thinking process ofEMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:03 am I know it's a long shot due to the fake crisis created by Pinnick but it's a possibility nonetheless. The same set of players that were deemed good enough to win weeks ago are still the ones going to Afcon. Even without Osihmen the SE are still contenders, other teams have won Afcon with much less firepower that we currently have.
Will the Nff actually give the job to a new coach if Eguavoen wins? Will the Nff be able to stand the pressure to keep Eguavoen if he wins? Hmmmm...it's not as unlikely as we might think that SE win with Eguavoen.
I'd even suggest that all he has to do is get to the finals with a markedly improved SE to put Peakmilk in an untenable position.
Pesiero might be the first coach to be hired and to never coach. Siddonlook mode activated.
NFF management. We can simply imagine how things will look if Eguavoen wins AFCON, and the
new coach fails to qualify the SE for the World Cup. That will surely expose Pinnick and fellow
'stake holders' to ridicule.
Knowing the mentality of some of us, I hope that when things start going well at AFCON, evil minds
don't try to sabotage the team for personal interests.
If he wins AFCON, NFF cannot justify this new Oyibo
Re: What if Eguavoen wins Afcon?
I'm sorry, this is all conjecture and I don't buy it.ikemba wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:27 amPinnick and co. will sabotage Eguavoen to make sure he does not succeed. Eguavoen has been at AFCON many times as a player and once as a Manager, so he has tournament experience. Hopefully he can pull a 'Keshi' on them , just not sure he is as mentally strong as the late Keshi.joao wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:06 amHiring a new coach, that will not be involved with AFCON shows the thinking process ofEMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:03 am I know it's a long shot due to the fake crisis created by Pinnick but it's a possibility nonetheless. The same set of players that were deemed good enough to win weeks ago are still the ones going to Afcon. Even without Osihmen the SE are still contenders, other teams have won Afcon with much less firepower that we currently have.
Will the Nff actually give the job to a new coach if Eguavoen wins? Will the Nff be able to stand the pressure to keep Eguavoen if he wins? Hmmmm...it's not as unlikely as we might think that SE win with Eguavoen.
I'd even suggest that all he has to do is get to the finals with a markedly improved SE to put Peakmilk in an untenable position.
Pesiero might be the first coach to be hired and to never coach. Siddonlook mode activated.
NFF management. We can simply imagine how things will look if Eguavoen wins AFCON, and the
new coach fails to qualify the SE for the World Cup. That will surely expose Pinnick and fellow
'stake holders' to ridicule.
Knowing the mentality of some of us, I hope that when things start going well at AFCON, evil minds
don't try to sabotage the team for personal interests.
If he wins AFCON, NFF cannot justify this new Oyibo
We need more then conspiracy theories to make a convincing case on this.
Moreover', the argument is predicated on the assumption that Eguavon is just plain stupid, which he is not. Same with this 'mentally weak' presumption.
It is quite disrespectful of Eguavon to presume that he is the stupid one here that can't see what you all are seeing so clearly, whilst portraying Pinnick as some kind of evil genius with a master plan.
Really?
It just does not add up and "won't stand up in court".
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Re: What if Eguavoen wins Afcon?
It is not out of the realm of possibility.
Here are some factors to consider.
1) Nigeria always plays to the strength of the opposition, it is actually against better sides that you see Nigeria's best, NOT against weaker sides. Although we may not necessarily win the encounter, Nigeria ALWAYS packs a punch against competitive sides.
2) This AFCON is a wildcard due to COVID, all the permutations and rules have to be thrown out of the proverbial window.
3) Eguavoen's record is damn good, in fact I said the NFF should hire him, weeks before they did, based on that.
4) Our talent pool is better than most African countries, injuries or no injuries, COVID or no COVID. We have been freezing out in form players like Awoniyi, Moffi, Sadiq, at one point or another. In fact, I am not so sure there is a clear pecking order. So we cannot say for sure that we have suffered. It may very well be that many of the guys in camp are going to end up being better than the guys like Emmanuel Dennis.
5) We do have some experience in the side, so it is not a crazy experiment.
6) Proximity to Cameroon is a massive boost, even the Naija factor will not derail this benefit. We are at a massive advantage here. As we can essentially be isolated and comfortable, before embarking on the short journey.
We know the negatives, but many of the negatives may be offset by the wildcard nature of the tournament.
Do not be surprised if we do win the whole thing.
Here are some factors to consider.
1) Nigeria always plays to the strength of the opposition, it is actually against better sides that you see Nigeria's best, NOT against weaker sides. Although we may not necessarily win the encounter, Nigeria ALWAYS packs a punch against competitive sides.
2) This AFCON is a wildcard due to COVID, all the permutations and rules have to be thrown out of the proverbial window.
3) Eguavoen's record is damn good, in fact I said the NFF should hire him, weeks before they did, based on that.
4) Our talent pool is better than most African countries, injuries or no injuries, COVID or no COVID. We have been freezing out in form players like Awoniyi, Moffi, Sadiq, at one point or another. In fact, I am not so sure there is a clear pecking order. So we cannot say for sure that we have suffered. It may very well be that many of the guys in camp are going to end up being better than the guys like Emmanuel Dennis.
5) We do have some experience in the side, so it is not a crazy experiment.
6) Proximity to Cameroon is a massive boost, even the Naija factor will not derail this benefit. We are at a massive advantage here. As we can essentially be isolated and comfortable, before embarking on the short journey.
We know the negatives, but many of the negatives may be offset by the wildcard nature of the tournament.
Do not be surprised if we do win the whole thing.
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If he wins he still has to hand over to Peserio. A deal is a deal.
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Re: What if Eguavoen wins Afcon?
They will still give Peserio credit since he will be around the coaching crew observing.
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Even if he doesn’t win he is a million times more appropriate to be our coach that Jose Whateverhisface.
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Abeg let me know your preferred cold beer. You sabi dem well well.imehjunior wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:39 am They will still give Peserio credit since he will be around the coaching crew observing.
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If Egu wins, he joins Pesiero's team as co-manager or 1st Assistant......Pesiero already has a contract...EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:03 am I know it's a long shot due to the fake crisis created by Pinnick but it's a possibility nonetheless. The same set of players that were deemed good enough to win weeks ago are still the ones going to Afcon. Even without Osihmen the SE are still contenders, other teams have won Afcon with much less firepower that we currently have.
Will the Nff actually give the job to a new coach if Eguavoen wins? Will the Nff be able to stand the pressure to keep Eguavoen if he wins? Hmmmm...it's not as unlikely as we might think that SE win with Eguavoen.
I'd even suggest that all he has to do is get to the finals with a markedly improved SE to put Peakmilk in an untenable position.
Pesiero might be the first coach to be hired and to never coach. Siddonlook mode activated.
the other question is if Egu gets smashed in the 1st two games and just about makes it to the second round.....do we strip him of the post and let Pesiero take over early?
we will see.... dont think either will happen
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Re: What if Eguavoen wins Afcon?
Emir,
If that happens there will be Katakata everywhere. You and I know that. It is plausible but for Pinnick's sake, it better don't. It is that simple.
If that happens there will be Katakata everywhere. You and I know that. It is plausible but for Pinnick's sake, it better don't. It is that simple.
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If Peseiro will be there on the bench then he should be coaching, and Egu should be helping the transition already. What is the point of just being there to watch? It makes no sense.
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Re: What if Eguavoen wins Afcon?
The only thing I can think is that Egu is coach, so if we fail he can get the blame, and the new man steps in.
Otherwise there is no reason to have an interim coach when you've already hired the new coach.
Otherwise there is no reason to have an interim coach when you've already hired the new coach.
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The fact that we haven't heard a word from Peseiro makes me suspicious of the hiring. Is there a quote of him acknowledging his appointment as manager?
When you get a job like like that usually the coach will release a statement of confirmation. Nothing so far. This has arranged written all over it.
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EmirEMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:21 pmThe fact that we haven't heard a word from Peseiro makes me suspicious of the hiring. Is there a quote of him acknowledging his appointment as manager?
When you get a job like like that usually the coach will release a statement of confirmation. Nothing so far. This has arranged written all over it.
I thought the NFF claimed he will be arriving Nigeria for 'unveiling'.. whatever th a t means? Or maybe, I am wrong on this but I thought I read it somewhere.
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If he gets us to the final or win the tournament, he should lead us to Qatar. The journeyman can assist him if he is already under contract.
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