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gochino wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:39 am
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We urgently need a good coach who can scout all these players, we're really wasting a potentially good generation of untested Nigerian players because of a myopic NFF and the useless sidekicks they employ as managers.
It really frustrating with this lazy coach! He had players like Yusuf and Nwabali and only invited them at the last minute due to injury and loss of form.
Ekong and Ajayi’s play at AFCON will not help matters but if the coach doesn’t add to that midfield starting with the Argentina friendly, then he is truly clueless.
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packerland wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:44 am
gochino wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:39 am
Tobi17 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:17 am
Sunset wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:12 am
We urgently need a good coach who can scout all these players, we're really wasting a potentially good generation of untested Nigerian players because of a myopic NFF and the useless sidekicks they employ as managers.
It really frustrating with this lazy coach! He had players like Yusuf and Nwabali and only invited them at the last minute due to injury and loss of form.
Ekong and Ajayi’s play at AFCON will not help matters but if the coach doesn’t add to that midfield starting with the Argentina friendly, then he is truly clueless.
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wiseone wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:56 am
Well done to Ndah.

Regarding the SA league, marketing and packaging play a great part in its success.
Watching it on TV gives that entertainment value which the NPFL is yet to achieve, even if our standard of actual play is higher - which is arguable.
Attracting the crowds is also crucial to the packaging for TV.

We really have a lot to do.
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Damunk wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:26 am
wiseone wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:56 am
Well done to Ndah.

Regarding the SA league, marketing and packaging play a great part in its success.
Watching it on TV gives that entertainment value which the NPFL is yet to achieve, even if our standard of actual play is higher - which is arguable.
Attracting the crowds is also crucial to the packaging for TV.

We really have a lot to do.
Uncle Damunk, forget marketing and packaging for now.

If you take 10 South Africa football fans and you take 10 football fans. Ask which clubs they support... Majority, if not all of the Nigerian will mention a foreign club, whilst their South African counterparts will mostly mention a local club.

It's even worse with the elites in Nigeria. Governors, senator, billionaires talking about their love foreign clubs and anyone who mentions a Nigerian team is seen as ara oko.

There has to be a mental change and or generational change.
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Damunk wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:26 am
wiseone wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:56 am
Well done to Ndah.

Regarding the SA league, marketing and packaging play a great part in its success.
Watching it on TV gives that entertainment value which the NPFL is yet to achieve, even if our standard of actual play is higher - which is arguable.
Attracting the crowds is also crucial to the packaging for TV.

We really have a lot to do.
Fact. It is really a shame. It is shocking that there is little or no marketing of some home games played by NPFL clubs. I often wonder why it is so. I have come to the conclusion that it is a reflection of government malaise. Persons in the club simply see their positions as state handouts. This is why I think Remo is tge way Nigeria should go. Simply do away with these state owned clubs either by attrition or by design. If the NPFL is managed by those who see it as a business, I believe things will change.
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fabio wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:35 am
Damunk wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:26 am
wiseone wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:56 am
Well done to Ndah.

Regarding the SA league, marketing and packaging play a great part in its success.
Watching it on TV gives that entertainment value which the NPFL is yet to achieve, even if our standard of actual play is higher - which is arguable.
Attracting the crowds is also crucial to the packaging for TV.

We really have a lot to do.
Uncle Damunk, forget marketing and packaging for now.

If you take 10 South Africa football fans and you take 10 football fans. Ask which clubs they support... Majority, if not all of the Nigerian will mention a foreign club, whilst their South African counterparts will mostly mention a local club.

It's even worse with the elites in Nigeria. Governors, senator, billionaires talking about their love foreign clubs and anyone who mentions a Nigerian team is seen as ara oko.

There has to be a mental change and or generational change.
That’s why marketing and packaging are important. If you make the league and its teams attractive, people will buy into them. As long as the product itself is good. You can’t blame the customer for not loving you if you’ve not made yourself lovable.
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waka-man wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:02 pm
fabio wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:35 am
Damunk wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:26 am
wiseone wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:56 am
Well done to Ndah.

Regarding the SA league, marketing and packaging play a great part in its success.
Watching it on TV gives that entertainment value which the NPFL is yet to achieve, even if our standard of actual play is higher - which is arguable.
Attracting the crowds is also crucial to the packaging for TV.

We really have a lot to do.
Uncle Damunk, forget marketing and packaging for now.

If you take 10 South Africa football fans and you take 10 football fans. Ask which clubs they support... Majority, if not all of the Nigerian will mention a foreign club, whilst their South African counterparts will mostly mention a local club.

It's even worse with the elites in Nigeria. Governors, senator, billionaires talking about their love foreign clubs and anyone who mentions a Nigerian team is seen as ara oko.

There has to be a mental change and or generational change.
That’s why marketing and packaging are important. If you make the league and its teams attractive, people will buy into them. As long as the product itself is good. You can’t blame the customer for not loving you if you’ve not made yourself lovable.
Absolutely!! Marketing is critical in pulling in interest. That should not be arguable.
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LOL see everyone mentioning "Marketing."

Marketing is critical if you have something to market. What do we have to market? Our mentality is sh1t, most Nigerians have a bad attitude towards success. Go to the Ndidi/Kelechi thread, and you will see them there. All we ask is for HIGH STANDARDS in everything we do in our country, including national team selection and many Nigerians do NOT want it. That do not want it because their favorite players cannot meet the HIGH STANDARDS and they cant accept that! Padi Padi government--- its not only the politicians! The citizens are the same way. They will cheat, steal and kill to make sure their favorites are rewarded for mediocrity. They have a disdain towards high standards! That is how many of them supported politicians who falsified their certificates.

What exactly are you going to market????! Tell me! You have a citizenry that is completely and unabashedly against high standards and are deeply in love with mediocrity. What the hell are you going to market?? You think the South Africans market mediocrity?

Please lets use out tongue to count our teeth! The real problem is US - the citizens. Many of us are truly the worst of the worst! And go around CE and you will see them. :oops:
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I agree with you re the marketing deficit in the NPFL. Then again, is there an incentive for government owned clubs which get their budget directly from the government, to invest heavily in marketing? A privately owned club has that incentive as it has to attract fans and generate revenue to stay afloat. A government owned club feeds from the government feeding bottle 🍼, hence gets funding even if no one watches its matches.

Results in African continental competitions suggests that the South African 🇿🇦 league (which for the second season in a row has a club in the semi-finals of the African Champions League) is a lot stronger than the NPFL.
Damunk wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:26 am
Well done to Ndah.

Regarding the SA league, marketing and packaging play a great part in its success.
Watching it on TV gives that entertainment value which the NPFL is yet to achieve, even if our standard of actual play is higher - which is arguable.
Attracting the crowds is also crucial to the packaging for TV.

We really have a lot to do.
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Damunk wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:26 am
wiseone wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:56 am
Well done to Ndah.

Regarding the SA league, marketing and packaging play a great part in its success.
Watching it on TV gives that entertainment value which the NPFL is yet to achieve, even if our standard of actual play is higher - which is arguable.
Attracting the crowds is also crucial to the packaging for TV.

We really have a lot to do.
There’s nothing arguable about which league is stronger standard wise tbh. Just look at how many players from their league played at the last AFCON
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Sunset wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:00 pm
Damunk wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:26 am
wiseone wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:56 am
Well done to Ndah.

Regarding the SA league, marketing and packaging play a great part in its success.
Watching it on TV gives that entertainment value which the NPFL is yet to achieve, even if our standard of actual play is higher - which is arguable.
Attracting the crowds is also crucial to the packaging for TV.

We really have a lot to do.
There’s nothing arguable about which league is stronger standard wise tbh. Just look at how many players from their league played at the last AFCON
Don’t their teams also go further in continental tournaments? They are much stronger than our league and much better in the every way.
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maceo4 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:47 pm
Sunset wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:00 pm
Damunk wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:26 am
wiseone wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:56 am
Well done to Ndah.

Regarding the SA league, marketing and packaging play a great part in its success.
Watching it on TV gives that entertainment value which the NPFL is yet to achieve, even if our standard of actual play is higher - which is arguable.
Attracting the crowds is also crucial to the packaging for TV.

We really have a lot to do.
There’s nothing arguable about which league is stronger standard wise tbh. Just look at how many players from their league played at the last AFCON
Don’t their teams also go further in continental tournaments? They are much stronger than our league and much better in the every way.
Their league is stronger because most of their best players stay home. Ours don’t🤔❗️


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TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:29 pm
maceo4 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:47 pm
Sunset wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:00 pm
Damunk wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:26 am
wiseone wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:56 am
Well done to Ndah.

Regarding the SA league, marketing and packaging play a great part in its success.
Watching it on TV gives that entertainment value which the NPFL is yet to achieve, even if our standard of actual play is higher - which is arguable.
Attracting the crowds is also crucial to the packaging for TV.

We really have a lot to do.
There’s nothing arguable about which league is stronger standard wise tbh. Just look at how many players from their league played at the last AFCON
Don’t their teams also go further in continental tournaments? They are much stronger than our league and much better in the every way.
Their league is stronger because most of their best players stay home. Ours don’t🤔❗️


Cheers.
They stay home because their league is well run and pays as well as European leagues…If ours was the same, more players would stay as well…
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Sunset wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:00 pm
Damunk wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:26 am
wiseone wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:56 am
Well done to Ndah.

Regarding the SA league, marketing and packaging play a great part in its success.
Watching it on TV gives that entertainment value which the NPFL is yet to achieve, even if our standard of actual play is higher - which is arguable.
Attracting the crowds is also crucial to the packaging for TV.

We really have a lot to do.
There’s nothing arguable about which league is stronger standard wise tbh. Just look at how many players from their league played at the last AFCON
You’re probably right.
Can’t really argue, but some will.
The evidence is there.
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maceo4 wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:04 am
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:29 pm
maceo4 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:47 pm
Sunset wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:00 pm
Damunk wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:26 am
wiseone wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:56 am
Well done to Ndah.

Regarding the SA league, marketing and packaging play a great part in its success.
Watching it on TV gives that entertainment value which the NPFL is yet to achieve, even if our standard of actual play is higher - which is arguable.
Attracting the crowds is also crucial to the packaging for TV.

We really have a lot to do.
There’s nothing arguable about which league is stronger standard wise tbh. Just look at how many players from their league played at the last AFCON
Don’t their teams also go further in continental tournaments? They are much stronger than our league and much better in the every way.
Their league is stronger because most of their best players stay home. Ours don’t🤔❗️


Cheers.
They stay home because their league is well run and pays as well as European leagues…If ours was the same, more players would stay as well…
Yup.
This should be (and is) the bottom line when debating HB vs FB.
But somehow, the debates still rage. Is there really anything to argue about? :rotf:
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