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GOOD.

We need home field advantage.
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Regarding home field advantage.

Let me say this.

What gives home field advantage more than anything else (more than the fans, camaraderie, hospitality etc.) is the FAMILIARITY with the venue and environment. Not just familiarity with the city, but familiarity with the pitch.

You cannot criticise a stadium for not delivering the true value of home advantage, if the stadium is in reality just newly broken into (in recent times). What made Surulere, Rades, and other stadiums in Africa dangerous was this CONTINUITY. People mentioned the atmosphere, i.e. fans threatening players, North African ultras etc. That is all well and good, but continuity is the real gem.

THIS is our issue. It doesn't matter where you go, whether it is Abuja or Uyo or Benin of PHC or Ibadan or Enugu or Warri. If you do not build that continuity over many years, you will not get the true value of home advantage.

So wherever we go, just be prepared to STAY there. And don't give me excuses about how we have to switch because we just go to the state where the government will support the team. If that is the case, then that is an inherent weakness in Nigeria's footballing structure! No we cannot go where governor A or governor B wants us to go. If they want to support the team, perhaps we can pool resources.
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Tbite wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:07 am Regarding home field advantage.

Let me say this.

What gives home field advantage more than anything else (more than the fans, camaraderie, hospitality etc.) is the FAMILIARITY with the venue and environment. Not just familiarity with the city, but familiarity with the pitch.

You cannot criticise a stadium for not delivering the true value of home advantage, if the stadium is in reality just newly broken into (in recent times). What made Surulere, Rades, and other stadiums in Africa dangerous was this CONTINUITY. People mentioned the atmosphere, i.e. fans threatening players, North African ultras etc. That is all well and good, but continuity is the real gem.

THIS is our issue. It doesn't matter where you go, whether it is Abuja or Uyo or Benin of PHC or Ibadan or Enugu or Warri. If you do not build that continuity over many years, you will not get the true value of home advantage.

So wherever we go, just be prepared to STAY there. And don't give me excuses about how we have to switch because we just go to the state where the government will support the team. If that is the case, then that is an inherent weakness in Nigeria's footballing structure! No we cannot go where governor A or governor B wants us to go. If they want to support the team, perhaps we can pool resources.
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How come Cameroun get better stadium?
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How come Cameroun get better stadium?
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Tbite wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:07 am Regarding home field advantage.

Let me say this.

What gives home field advantage more than anything else (more than the fans, camaraderie, hospitality etc.) is the FAMILIARITY with the venue and environment. Not just familiarity with the city, but familiarity with the pitch.

You cannot criticise a stadium for not delivering the true value of home advantage, if the stadium is in reality just newly broken into (in recent times). What made Surulere, Rades, and other stadiums in Africa dangerous was this CONTINUITY. People mentioned the atmosphere, i.e. fans threatening players, North African ultras etc. That is all well and good, but continuity is the real gem.

THIS is our issue. It doesn't matter where you go, whether it is Abuja or Uyo or Benin of PHC or Ibadan or Enugu or Warri. If you do not build that continuity over many years, you will not get the true value of home advantage.

So wherever we go, just be prepared to STAY there. And don't give me excuses about how we have to switch because we just go to the state where the government will support the team. If that is the case, then that is an inherent weakness in Nigeria's footballing structure! No we cannot go where governor A or governor B wants us to go. If they want to support the team, perhaps we can pool resources.
Im not totally sure that continuity counts as much as that feeling of being amongst your own fans.
It’s probably a combination of both but if your own stadium is somehow filled with hostile fans, I suspect that ‘continuity’ will count for zilch.

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There was someone here telling us that the stadium wasn’t bad and was up to standards when it was quite clear watching from afar that it wasn’t…
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imehjunior wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:19 pm How come Cameroun get better stadium?
They built all of those stadium for the AFCON and right now I wouldn't praise them until about a year or so after the AFCON when we can go back and evaluate the state of those stadium
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I was called all sorts of names when I said even namas should not be subjected to play soccer in such shait infested arena. We have several world class stadiums in Rivers state. Akwa Ibom also has a beautiful stadium. The top 4 stadiums in Nigeria are:

1. The great Liberation stadium in Port Harcourt
2. The World Class new Port Harcourt Stadium that Amaechi built
3. Uyo stadium
4. The National stadium, Abuja


Last: Any stadium in Lagos
Lower than Last : Ibadan stadium.
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Good. Let them come back to Uyo.
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Bigpokey24 wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:18 am

And they blame ROhr and SE for playing poorly at home in this atrocious field. Horrible!

The only way you can avoid the horrble bumps on the pitch is to hit long balls.

Sports Ministry insisted on playing home matches in Lagos becuase the Sports Minister trying to make his God father, BAT, look good. Campaign Strategy.
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Damunk wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:26 pm
Tbite wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:07 am Regarding home field advantage.

Let me say this.

What gives home field advantage more than anything else (more than the fans, camaraderie, hospitality etc.) is the FAMILIARITY with the venue and environment. Not just familiarity with the city, but familiarity with the pitch.

You cannot criticise a stadium for not delivering the true value of home advantage, if the stadium is in reality just newly broken into (in recent times). What made Surulere, Rades, and other stadiums in Africa dangerous was this CONTINUITY. People mentioned the atmosphere, i.e. fans threatening players, North African ultras etc. That is all well and good, but continuity is the real gem.

THIS is our issue. It doesn't matter where you go, whether it is Abuja or Uyo or Benin of PHC or Ibadan or Enugu or Warri. If you do not build that continuity over many years, you will not get the true value of home advantage.

So wherever we go, just be prepared to STAY there. And don't give me excuses about how we have to switch because we just go to the state where the government will support the team. If that is the case, then that is an inherent weakness in Nigeria's footballing structure! No we cannot go where governor A or governor B wants us to go. If they want to support the team, perhaps we can pool resources.
Im not totally sure that continuity counts as much as that feeling of being amongst your own fans.
It’s probably a combination of both but if your own stadium is somehow filled with hostile fans, I suspect that ‘continuity’ will count for zilch.

:idea:
Yes of course. But I emphasise continuity for many reasons, athletes more than anything love patterns.

In fact some athletes would probably prefer a hostile and predictable situation than a positive but unpredictable situation.

Look at Djokovic, the guy thrives when the crowd are against him, because he has learned to harness their negative energy into his routine. Obviously, not everyone can do that, Naomi Osaka definitely can't. But the point is, predictability in sports is so crucial. In fact, one might argue that apart from playing two gruelling matches before the final in the US Open, that the other factor that tilted against him was that the crowd actually SUPPORTED him.

Nadal cannot serve a ball without employing a superstitious pattern. Cristiano Ronaldo cannot enter or leave a pitch without his superstitious Portuguese belief (albeit one that is common throughout Portugal).

The point is, even the crowd's support has to be familiar. The crowd in Lagos are not the same as the crowd in Uyo or in Abuja. Everything should be routine as soon as they come from the airport to the hotel to the dressing room, to training etc.

I agree with you, being with the fans is crucial, but I do not think it is enough. They need an established home. Moving around the country is detrimental.
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chief nfachairman wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:02 am
Bigpokey24 wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:18 am

And they blame ROhr and SE for playing poorly at home in this atrocious field. Horrible!

The only way you can avoid the horrble bumps on the pitch is to hit long balls.

Sports Ministry insisted on playing home matches in Lagos becuase the Sports Minister trying to make his God father, BAT, look good. Campaign Strategy.
Man stop it, his team also played in Cameroon on a beautiful pitch and was the same dross, that was the day VE lost his patience :rotf: :rotf:
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A lot of Nigerians are confused with a playing surface vs a stadium.
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Tbite wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:29 am
Damunk wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:26 pm
Tbite wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:07 am Regarding home field advantage.

Let me say this.

What gives home field advantage more than anything else (more than the fans, camaraderie, hospitality etc.) is the FAMILIARITY with the venue and environment. Not just familiarity with the city, but familiarity with the pitch.

You cannot criticise a stadium for not delivering the true value of home advantage, if the stadium is in reality just newly broken into (in recent times). What made Surulere, Rades, and other stadiums in Africa dangerous was this CONTINUITY. People mentioned the atmosphere, i.e. fans threatening players, North African ultras etc. That is all well and good, but continuity is the real gem.

THIS is our issue. It doesn't matter where you go, whether it is Abuja or Uyo or Benin of PHC or Ibadan or Enugu or Warri. If you do not build that continuity over many years, you will not get the true value of home advantage.

So wherever we go, just be prepared to STAY there. And don't give me excuses about how we have to switch because we just go to the state where the government will support the team. If that is the case, then that is an inherent weakness in Nigeria's footballing structure! No we cannot go where governor A or governor B wants us to go. If they want to support the team, perhaps we can pool resources.
Im not totally sure that continuity counts as much as that feeling of being amongst your own fans.
It’s probably a combination of both but if your own stadium is somehow filled with hostile fans, I suspect that ‘continuity’ will count for zilch.

:idea:
Yes of course. But I emphasise continuity for many reasons, athletes more than anything love patterns.

In fact some athletes would probably prefer a hostile and predictable situation than a positive but unpredictable situation.

Look at Djokovic, the guy thrives when the crowd are against him, because he has learned to harness their negative energy into his routine. Obviously, not everyone can do that, Naomi Osaka definitely can't. But the point is, predictability in sports is so crucial. In fact, one might argue that apart from playing two gruelling matches before the final in the US Open, that the other factor that tilted against him was that the crowd actually SUPPORTED him.

Nadal cannot serve a ball without employing a superstitious pattern. Cristiano Ronaldo cannot enter or leave a pitch without his superstitious Portuguese belief (albeit one that is common throughout Portugal).

The point is, even the crowd's support has to be familiar. The crowd in Lagos are not the same as the crowd in Uyo or in Abuja. Everything should be routine as soon as they come from the airport to the hotel to the dressing room, to training etc.

I agree with you, being with the fans is crucial, but I do not think it is enough. They need an established home. Moving around the country is detrimental.
Good point but humans like habit. Athletes are only human.
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All of those shouting Uyo stadium. You clearly haven't been there recently. The pitch is awful now, a complete eyesore. Most still think the pitch is as good as when SE played there. You'll be in for a nasty surprise.
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That stadium needs to be nuked.

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