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Re: PEOPLE, WE HAVE A COACHING PROBLEM...
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:47 am
by txj
Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:45 am
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:40 am
Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:38 am
We overloaded the team with wingers and fwds and yet very few midfielders, Ndidi was once again overplayed as the lone DM...
We had two central midfielders, Aribo and Ndidi
Which still proves my point, we're absolutely nullified when the Tunisians crowded out that midfield.
We also had Kele playing just ahead of them.
Re: PEOPLE, WE HAVE A COACHING PROBLEM...
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:49 am
by chopachop
Ugbowo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:10 am
Eff it let me just let it out……
Sudan came with the exact same game plan as Tunisia. Luckily we scored an early goal but Egu noticed the ineffectiveness of Samu once teams loaded up on the wings and brought on Iwobi who completely changed d dynamic of our attack and balanced the game especially once Nwakali joined d fray.
I expected the same response at half time today.
For some reason we came out the exact same way in the exact same shape with the exact same attacking patterns when it was obvious it wasn’t working. It’s like both coaches were waiting for each other. Which is very ironic considering Eguavoen did not wait against Sudan.
Iwobi needed to come in but for Samu not Kelechi.
Kelechi substitution I can very much understand it. The yellow card and the stamp on him few mins before the sub meant he had to come off. But Iwobi should have been on earlier for Samu. If Kelechi had to come off maybe Henry could have come on since Ejuke was not on the bench.
Olayinka for Awoniyi was a head scratcher. Eguavoen was thinking it was a personnel issue not a tactical one. That was very poor reading of the game.
At 10 men, our adjustments were not cohesive. We just Dey play with no direction. It showed a coach who didn’t really know his players. He was just throwing everything.
Egu faced some adversity today and flopped. Flopped badly too.
Strange that, You are comparing Tunisia and Sudan. Tunisia may have struggled at the group stage
but they ain't no Sudan, that is why they progressed to the knock out stage and Sudan is back home.
Egypt was outright piss poor and Nigeria defeating Egypt without Egypt posing any threat gave everybody,
the players and even Egu over confidence that the match against Tunisia was a forgone conclusion and
Nigeria's to lose.
Re: PEOPLE, WE HAVE A COACHING PROBLEM...
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:05 am
by vancity eagle
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:38 am
vancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:36 am
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:32 pm
Should've known when Egu started demonstrating how Nigeria plays on a table when he mentioned Temile and Nwosu.
should have known when he insisted on 442.
He had me fooled, he made us think it could work after 3 matches.
But like I had said, it will be found out against better opponents. Tunisia studied and packed the midfield and crowded out Simon.
If Egu was a top coach he would have switched to a 433 before the end of the first half. When the second half started and I saw he made no changes, I knew we were done.
It's not about formations
sure. whatever you say
Your 2 strikers are isolated
Your 2 wingers are crowded out running into culdesacs
there is no creativity in the middle and Ndidi is defending by himself.
Sure not about formations. ok.
Re: PEOPLE, WE HAVE A COACHING PROBLEM...
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:05 am
by vancity eagle
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:47 am
Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:45 am
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:40 am
Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:38 am
We overloaded the team with wingers and fwds and yet very few midfielders, Ndidi was once again overplayed as the lone DM...
We had two central midfielders, Aribo and Ndidi
Which still proves my point, we're absolutely nullified when the Tunisians crowded out that midfield.
We also had Kele playing just ahead of them.
who IS NOT A MIDFIELDER
and has a hard time trapping the ball.
Re: PEOPLE, WE HAVE A COACHING PROBLEM...
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:56 am
by txj
vancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:05 am
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:47 am
Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:45 am
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:40 am
Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:38 am
We overloaded the team with wingers and fwds and yet very few midfielders, Ndidi was once again overplayed as the lone DM...
We had two central midfielders, Aribo and Ndidi
Which still proves my point, we're absolutely nullified when the Tunisians crowded out that midfield.
We also had Kele playing just ahead of them.
who IS NOT A MIDFIELDER
and has a hard time trapping the ball.
I'm yet to meet a footballer who was born with the tag midfielder.
The game is not really about formations but roles.
Somehow you seem incapable of making the mental transition.
Re: PEOPLE, WE HAVE A COACHING PROBLEM...
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:00 am
by vancity eagle
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:56 am
vancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:05 am
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:47 am
Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:45 am
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:40 am
Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:38 am
We overloaded the team with wingers and fwds and yet very few midfielders, Ndidi was once again overplayed as the lone DM...
We had two central midfielders, Aribo and Ndidi
Which still proves my point, we're absolutely nullified when the Tunisians crowded out that midfield.
We also had Kele playing just ahead of them.
who IS NOT A MIDFIELDER
and has a hard time trapping the ball.
I'm yet to meet a footballer who was born with the tag midfielder.
The game is not really about formations but roles.
Somehow you seem incapable of making the mental transition.
you seem incapable of understanding that no matter whatever you want to call that role, Nacho is piss poor at it. Main reason he has very poor touch and cannot drive forward with the ball.
Iwobi, Aribo, even Nwakali are all better suited.
For some reason Rohr, Egu, and even you all fail to see the obvious. The odd goal here and there cloud your judgement, but Nacho has been piss poor for SE for a long time. He's just a very good finisher, poor at almost everything else.
Re: PEOPLE, WE HAVE A COACHING PROBLEM...
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:14 am
by Enugu II
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:56 am
vancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:05 am
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:47 am
Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:45 am
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:40 am
Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:38 am
We overloaded the team with wingers and fwds and yet very few midfielders, Ndidi was once again overplayed as the lone DM...
We had two central midfielders, Aribo and Ndidi
Which still proves my point, we're absolutely nullified when the Tunisians crowded out that midfield.
We also had Kele playing just ahead of them.
who IS NOT A MIDFIELDER
and has a hard time trapping the ball.
I'm yet to meet a footballer who was born with the tag midfielder.
The game is not really about
formations but roles.
Somehow you seem incapable of making the mental transition.
EXACTLY. Moreover, most of these players can play several roles.
Re: PEOPLE, WE HAVE A COACHING PROBLEM...
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:16 am
by vancity eagle
Enugu II wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:14 am
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:56 am
vancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:05 am
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:47 am
Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:45 am
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:40 am
Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:38 am
We overloaded the team with wingers and fwds and yet very few midfielders, Ndidi was once again overplayed as the lone DM...
We had two central midfielders, Aribo and Ndidi
Which still proves my point, we're absolutely nullified when the Tunisians crowded out that midfield.
We also had Kele playing just ahead of them.
who IS NOT A MIDFIELDER
and has a hard time trapping the ball.
I'm yet to meet a footballer who was born with the tag midfielder.
The game is not really about
formations but roles.
Somehow you seem incapable of making the mental transition.
EXACTLY. Moreover, most of these players can play several roles.
but can they play them well.
Afterall an outfield player from Comoros WILL PLAY IN GOAL TOMORROW. I guess that is his ideal position.
Re: PEOPLE, WE HAVE A COACHING PROBLEM...
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:11 pm
by txj
vancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:16 am
Enugu II wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:14 am
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:56 am
vancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:05 am
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:47 am
Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:45 am
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:40 am
We had two central midfielders, Aribo and Ndidi
Which still proves my point, we're absolutely nullified when the Tunisians crowded out that midfield.
We also had Kele playing just ahead of them.
who IS NOT A MIDFIELDER
and has a hard time trapping the ball.
I'm yet to meet a footballer who was born with the tag midfielder.
The game is not really about
formations but roles.
Somehow you seem incapable of making the mental transition.
EXACTLY. Moreover, most of these players can play several roles.
but can they play them well.
Afterall an outfield player from Comoros WILL PLAY IN GOAL TOMORROW. I guess that is his ideal position.
The Comoros example is an outlier and not related to this. And u should know that really...
Kele has scored goals from that position, similar to Kanu back in the days.
You need to focus on the roles definition and how it fits in the overall game plan, and then of course the player's performance. Don't get stuck on formations. They are just numbers ultimately...
Re: PEOPLE, WE HAVE A COACHING PROBLEM...
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:21 pm
by Lolly
txj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:29 am
In truth we only really played with good organization in the first half against Egypt.
Our next two games produced good results but not much by way of good organization or fluidity in developing our play, relying more and more on individual play.
Today we could not find solutions to the Tunisian organization.
And after the red card, it was all free form. I found that to be quite troubling.
I would not recommend Eguavoen for coach.
But he needs to be commended for his efforts under very untenable circumstances.
That's exactly what I saw. And one of the analysts on Supersports coverage said Nigeria might outscore the opponents but they would not outplay them and that our defence is not that strong. We wee schooled yesterday in the art of football.
Egu tried but I don't rate him. I don't rate Rohr highly but he too tried for us.
Re: PEOPLE, WE HAVE A COACHING PROBLEM...
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:29 pm
by Riche007
Riche007 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:25 pm
No doubt, we got most of our tactics right in the group stages. However, today, there was hardly any pivot to counter the Tunisian compact strategy.
What was even more concerning is that after the goal, Egu's response with his substitutions did not make any logical sense.
Super Eagles, we've got a problem!
Egu blows hard again!
Re: PEOPLE, WE HAVE A COACHING PROBLEM...
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:34 pm
by charlie
We didnt have a coaching issue until people here clamored to fire the coach.
I have warned you again and again, if you and Bigpokey are on the same side of any issue, you need to question your life choices. You didnt listen.
Re: PEOPLE, WE HAVE A COACHING PROBLEM...
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:41 pm
by deanotito
airwolex wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:29 pm
We have to find s middle ground between being pragmatic, like Rohr, or more expansive like Eguaveon. It is a real conundrum. There are no real easy answers
Pray tell, what about Eguavoen’s strategy against Ghana was expansive. Slow and ponderous in making changes. Weak in making decisions…There is no contrast of pragmatism vs expansive here