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jette1 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:35 am
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:48 am
asabatex wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:45 am Based on Wikipedia..the "applicant" with the best resume is Ernesto Valverde. I personally do not believe that any foreign coach applied for the Nigeria job. May be Walter Zenga can apply for the goalie coach
Valverde is a decoy there to make the list look better than it is. Nigeria couldn't pay Rohr, keshi orAmodu on time. Da foiks dey gonna pay Valverde to live in Nigeria.
That’s an improper use of the word - decoy
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Damunk wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:30 pm Pls confirm with Fabio.
He is the Master of Spin.
So he might find a way of turning 3 into 2. :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:
Mr UEFA CUP final was celebrating a GOLDEN BRONZE at his 3rd attempt at his FOURTH international job.

Westerhoff was celebrating a GOLDEN GOLD at his 3rd attempt at his FIRST international job.

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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:48 am
asabatex wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:45 am Based on Wikipedia..the "applicant" with the best resume is Ernesto Valverde. I personally do not believe that any foreign coach applied for the Nigeria job. May be Walter Zenga can apply for the goalie coach
Valverde is a decoy there to make the list look better than it is. Nigeria couldn't pay Rohr, keshi orAmodu on time. Da foiks dey gonna pay Valverde to live in Nigeria.
Cocu has been contacted by Hibs in the Scottish premier league…..

U can’t tell me that Hibs can afford to pay their manager more than NFF
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fabio wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:40 am
Damunk wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:30 pm Pls confirm with Fabio.
He is the Master of Spin.
So he might find a way of turning 3 into 2. :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:
Mr UEFA CUP final was celebrating a GOLDEN BRONZE at his 3rd attempt at his FOURTH international job.

Westerhoff was celebrating a GOLDEN GOLD at his 3rd attempt at his FIRST international job.

Figures don't lie, however, liars can figure :D
Is this your cunny-cunny way of confirming it was at his third attempt or not?
That's what maceo4 is asking you, unkulu.

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Damunk wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:22 pm
fabio wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:05 am
Damunk wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:29 am
Tobi17 wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:49 pm
cchinukw wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:29 pm Nigeria's SE team is now a destination for hey you handlers. How are the mighty fallen.
Ironically even during our "mighty days", we were coached by the same hey you's...your best managers of today (Westerhoff etc) had no prior coaching pedigree before they became our national team handlers.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Otto Gloria probably the exception.
Westerhoff did a better job, than Mr UEFA Cup Final :D
Only because you weren’t around to sack him before winning it on his third attempt!
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Thank God for that!
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But obviously you are spinning. Are you not? Westerhoff was producing and did not have at any time a stretch of poor results as we witnessed under Rohr. Westerhoff not only showed his mettle with AFCON in 1992 and then won in 94. In between, he created a ream tgat was feared in the continent. Rohr similarly built up a strong squad that could be considered top tier but was clearly tottering with embarrassing home results. There is a difference there. Do not forget that Rihr was celebrated for being Nigeria's longest serving manager! Not so? So what is it about not having the time? Apparently, three others before him had shorter tenure and still won the diadem. So why again did Mr. Rohr need a longer time when the record shows he had the longest tenure?
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Damunk wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:32 am Is this your cunny-cunny way of confirming it was at his third attempt or not?
That's what maceo4 is asking you, unkulu.

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Maceo4, asked you the question. Do the honourable thing, answer the question.
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Enugu II wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:27 am
Damunk wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:22 pm
fabio wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:05 am
Damunk wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:29 am
Tobi17 wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:49 pm
cchinukw wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:29 pm Nigeria's SE team is now a destination for hey you handlers. How are the mighty fallen.
Ironically even during our "mighty days", we were coached by the same hey you's...your best managers of today (Westerhoff etc) had no prior coaching pedigree before they became our national team handlers.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Otto Gloria probably the exception.
Westerhoff did a better job, than Mr UEFA Cup Final :D
Only because you weren’t around to sack him before winning it on his third attempt!
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Thank God for that!
Damunk

But obviously you are spinning. Are you not? Westerhoff was producing and did not have at any time a stretch of poor results as we witnessed under Rohr. Westerhoff not only showed his mettle with AFCON in 1992 and then won in 94. In between, he created a ream tgat was feared in the continent. Rohr similarly built up a strong squad that could be considered top tier but was clearly tottering with embarrassing home results. There is a difference there. Do not forget that Rihr was celebrated for being Nigeria's longest serving manager! Not so? So what is it about not having the time? Apparently, three others before him had shorter tenure and still won the diadem. So why again did Mr. Rohr need a longer time when the record shows he had the longest tenure?
Prof this your aiding and abetting no get part two.
Let me use your style to make my point;

“You need to remember” the number of attempts Westerhoff had at AFCON, and what he achieved in that time frame.
“You need to remember” the number of attempts Rohr had at AFCON and what he achieved in roughly the same time frame.

It sounds funny that you are spinning him ‘guilty’ of failing to win AFCONs that didn’t exist!

Oh, I forgot. He didn’t win AFCON 2022. My bad! :rotf:
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Damunk wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:25 am
Enugu II wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:27 am
Damunk wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:22 pm
fabio wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:05 am
Damunk wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:29 am
Tobi17 wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:49 pm
cchinukw wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:29 pm Nigeria's SE team is now a destination for hey you handlers. How are the mighty fallen.
Ironically even during our "mighty days", we were coached by the same hey you's...your best managers of today (Westerhoff etc) had no prior coaching pedigree before they became our national team handlers.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Otto Gloria probably the exception.
Westerhoff did a better job, than Mr UEFA Cup Final :D
Only because you weren’t around to sack him before winning it on his third attempt!
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Thank God for that!
Damunk

But obviously you are spinning. Are you not? Westerhoff was producing and did not have at any time a stretch of poor results as we witnessed under Rohr. Westerhoff not only showed his mettle with AFCON in 1992 and then won in 94. In between, he created a ream tgat was feared in the continent. Rohr similarly built up a strong squad that could be considered top tier but was clearly tottering with embarrassing home results. There is a difference there. Do not forget that Rihr was celebrated for being Nigeria's longest serving manager! Not so? So what is it about not having the time? Apparently, three others before him had shorter tenure and still won the diadem. So why again did Mr. Rohr need a longer time when the record shows he had the longest tenure?
Prof this your aiding and abetting no get part two.
Let me use your style to make my point;

“You need to remember” the number of attempts Westerhoff had at AFCON, and what he achieved in that time frame.
“You need to remember” the number of attempts Rohr had at AFCON and what he achieved in roughly the same time frame.

It sounds funny that you are spinning him ‘guilty’ of failing to win AFCONs that didn’t exist!

Oh, I forgot. He didn’t win AFCON 2022. My bad! :rotf:
Damunk

How many attempts at AFCON did Keshi get to win his it and how many did Gloria get to win it? How many did Westerhoff or Keshi get to reach the final 16 of the World Cup?

If you think about the above, you will know why Rohr's tenure is enough to attempt a comparison. Always realize that Rohr had done nothing to anoint him manager for life. LOL. He was already the longest serving and deservedly let ho when his team started a nose dive. No big deal. We've moved on. Managers get appointed and let go. Rohr was no special manager and his time was duly up.
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Enugu II wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:57 am
Damunk wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 10:25 am
Enugu II wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:27 am
Damunk wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:22 pm
fabio wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:05 am
Damunk wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:29 am
Tobi17 wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:49 pm

Ironically even during our "mighty days", we were coached by the same hey you's...your best managers of today (Westerhoff etc) had no prior coaching pedigree before they became our national team handlers.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Otto Gloria probably the exception.
Westerhoff did a better job, than Mr UEFA Cup Final :D
Only because you weren’t around to sack him before winning it on his third attempt!
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Thank God for that!
Damunk

But obviously you are spinning. Are you not? Westerhoff was producing and did not have at any time a stretch of poor results as we witnessed under Rohr. Westerhoff not only showed his mettle with AFCON in 1992 and then won in 94. In between, he created a ream tgat was feared in the continent. Rohr similarly built up a strong squad that could be considered top tier but was clearly tottering with embarrassing home results. There is a difference there. Do not forget that Rihr was celebrated for being Nigeria's longest serving manager! Not so? So what is it about not having the time? Apparently, three others before him had shorter tenure and still won the diadem. So why again did Mr. Rohr need a longer time when the record shows he had the longest tenure?
Prof this your aiding and abetting no get part two.
Let me use your style to make my point;

“You need to remember” the number of attempts Westerhoff had at AFCON, and what he achieved in that time frame.
“You need to remember” the number of attempts Rohr had at AFCON and what he achieved in roughly the same time frame.

It sounds funny that you are spinning him ‘guilty’ of failing to win AFCONs that didn’t exist!

Oh, I forgot. He didn’t win AFCON 2022. My bad! :rotf:
Damunk

How many attempts at AFCON did Keshi get to win his it and how many did Gloria get to win it? How many did Westerhoff or Keshi get to reach the final 16 of the World Cup?

If you think about the above, you will know why Rohr's tenure is enough to attempt a comparison. Always realize that Rohr had done nothing to anoint him manager for life. LOL. He was already the longest serving and deservedly let ho when his team started a nose dive. No big deal. We've moved on. Managers get appointed and let go. Rohr was no special manager and his time was duly up.
Prof, we are talking about Westerhoff and AFCON at the moment!
And I wasn't the one that brought him up. I'm just responding to a specific point.
The whole thread is generally about foreign handlers and I believe your friend brought up Westerhoff.
So Keshi isn't really pertinent to the discussion right now. :taunt:
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