Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
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Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
Anyone read the NYT article on the cost of us not qualifying for the World Cup?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/02/spor ... d-cup.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/02/spor ... d-cup.html
THERE WAS A COUNTRY...
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Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1
Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:05 pmTxjtxj wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 2:59 pmEnugu II wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 2:54 pmWhat baffles me about this take is that it is grossly uninformed. First, there is no realization that the NFF has to also prepare the CHAN team for an upcoming competition in a situation where you have shortage of funds and you have payments from Rhor caseand crowd issues to deal with. These are real operational issues that must be managed.Cellular wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 2:44 pmGotti wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:47 amIt's more than just a weird take...
It's obtuse, juvenile and DISGUSTING to equate the inclusion of HB players with 'agency'.
First, the NFF did not even know if it would have a new coach signed and in place for this game (particularly after the Sports Minister's directive). Accordingly, if the NFF were going to be charged with "marketing" players it would be more valid to point to players who had not played club football in months and/or played for relegation clubs and thus seeking to put themselves in the shop window. But of course, the REAL reason the so-called "full complement of players" were not assembled was because Salisu was initially billed to coach these friendlies and he selected the players. including (as coach of the CHAN national team) some of the top NPFL (and thus probable CHAN team) players. The self-hatred is DESPICABLE!
I wonder what people who manage mega disasters deal with!
The excuse is so pathetic that I am embarrassed for you!
Why do we Nigerians ALWAYS make excuses for our public officials failures?
You have a peculiar penchant for defending thieves!
Tufiakwa!!!
This is about managing reality. There are many parts to it. There is CHAN competition. What should be done about that? Please tell us how you will manage that given the situation? It will be interesting to know your plan.
I'm not in the NFF so why would I have a plan? What information do I have access to in order to develop a plan?
I mean its frankly a silly question!
In my job I manage multiple issues and multiple events, SIMULTANEOUSLY. Its not rocket science.
We are asking people to manage a friendly and CHAN, and you think that is complex?
Gimme a fvcking break!!!
Form is temporary; Class is Permanent!
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We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
Cellular wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:11 pm Anyone read the NYT article on the cost of us not qualifying for the World Cup?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/02/spor ... d-cup.html
Yes I did. I read it, shook my head and moved on.
What do those officials care?
They have HB players to market and the likes of you, Gotti and EII to make excuses on their behalf...
Form is temporary; Class is Permanent!
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
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Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
Owngoal, ScoreNigeria, and the Spanish commentators of the feed I watched all blamed Faisal for that goal.
Maybe Awaziem can be blamed as well, but the idea that Faisal did not at least play a major part is laughable.
Maybe Awaziem can be blamed as well, but the idea that Faisal did not at least play a major part is laughable.
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Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
I dont think either Mexico or Ecuador is better than us with our full compliment of players.Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:26 am I was very impressed, and if not for good goal keeping we would have had a different outcome. Aribo, Alex, Ekong, Bassey, Aina and Uzoho were classes above the rest. After watching both games, I am very satisfied with the new coaching setup. We lost to two teams currently better than us, but we pushed them good.
By this time next year in CIV,(God willing) this team will be ready to challenge the likes of Senegal for the Afcon Title.
Now let's go show Salone and Sao Tome what our SE is made of.
Cannot wait to have the likes of Osimhen, Ndidi back
No sir.
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Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
Neither of the teams we played had their full compliment of players. We have a lot of work to do, not the least of which is finding adequate backup players. Anytime we go out in front of the public, we must mount a credible challenge, shorthanded or not. We didn’t do that this time aroundvancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:39 pmI dont think either Mexico or Ecuador is better than us with our full compliment of players.Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:26 am I was very impressed, and if not for good goal keeping we would have had a different outcome. Aribo, Alex, Ekong, Bassey, Aina and Uzoho were classes above the rest. After watching both games, I am very satisfied with the new coaching setup. We lost to two teams currently better than us, but we pushed them good.
By this time next year in CIV,(God willing) this team will be ready to challenge the likes of Senegal for the Afcon Title.
Now let's go show Salone and Sao Tome what our SE is made of.
Cannot wait to have the likes of Osimhen, Ndidi back
No sir.
Cheers.
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Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
The Ecuador team was full. They may have had one or two starters on the bench, but they came on in the 2nd half.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:07 pmNeither of the teams we played had their full compliment of players. We have a lot of work to do, not the least of which is finding adequate backup players. Anytime we go out in front of the public, we must mount a credible challenge, shorthanded or not. We didn’t do that this time aroundvancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:39 pmI dont think either Mexico or Ecuador is better than us with our full compliment of players.Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:26 am I was very impressed, and if not for good goal keeping we would have had a different outcome. Aribo, Alex, Ekong, Bassey, Aina and Uzoho were classes above the rest. After watching both games, I am very satisfied with the new coaching setup. We lost to two teams currently better than us, but we pushed them good.
By this time next year in CIV,(God willing) this team will be ready to challenge the likes of Senegal for the Afcon Title.
Now let's go show Salone and Sao Tome what our SE is made of.
Cannot wait to have the likes of Osimhen, Ndidi back
No sir.
Cheers.
We outplayed them missing half our starters and half our squad. Their goal was a result of a homebased player the NFF were trying to pimp.
That team is not better than us, and neither is Mexico.
Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
VEvancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:12 pmThe Ecuador team was full. They may have had one or two starters on the bench, but they came on in the 2nd half.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:07 pmNeither of the teams we played had their full compliment of players. We have a lot of work to do, not the least of which is finding adequate backup players. Anytime we go out in front of the public, we must mount a credible challenge, shorthanded or not. We didn’t do that this time aroundvancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:39 pmI dont think either Mexico or Ecuador is better than us with our full compliment of players.Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:26 am I was very impressed, and if not for good goal keeping we would have had a different outcome. Aribo, Alex, Ekong, Bassey, Aina and Uzoho were classes above the rest. After watching both games, I am very satisfied with the new coaching setup. We lost to two teams currently better than us, but we pushed them good.
By this time next year in CIV,(God willing) this team will be ready to challenge the likes of Senegal for the Afcon Title.
Now let's go show Salone and Sao Tome what our SE is made of.
Cannot wait to have the likes of Osimhen, Ndidi back
No sir.
Cheers.
We outplayed them missing half our starters and half our squad. Their goal was a result of a homebased player the NFF were trying to pimp.
That team is not better than us, and neither is Mexico.
We haveen tutored by Mexico for years and they are far higher than us in the vaunted FIFA ranking and you make the above claim. I laugh. You may also claim we have a better team than the USA. I can see that coming. LOL. Mind you the data and objective analysis will easily carpet you on such claims and dreams.
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Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
Mexico sef used the team C. Once Nigerians wake up to the reality that being noisy does not equate to greatness or even average, it will be the beginning of a transformation and reverse the trend of retardation.vancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:39 pmI dont think either Mexico or Ecuador is better than us with our full compliment of players.Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:26 am I was very impressed, and if not for good goal keeping we would have had a different outcome. Aribo, Alex, Ekong, Bassey, Aina and Uzoho were classes above the rest. After watching both games, I am very satisfied with the new coaching setup. We lost to two teams currently better than us, but we pushed them good.
By this time next year in CIV,(God willing) this team will be ready to challenge the likes of Senegal for the Afcon Title.
Now let's go show Salone and Sao Tome what our SE is made of.
Cannot wait to have the likes of Osimhen, Ndidi back
No sir.
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Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
Which team C is that ?scholl wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:28 pmMexico sef used the team C. Once Nigerians wake up to the reality that being noisy does not equate to greatness or even average, it will be the beginning of a transformation and reverse the trend of retardation.vancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:39 pmI dont think either Mexico or Ecuador is better than us with our full compliment of players.Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:26 am I was very impressed, and if not for good goal keeping we would have had a different outcome. Aribo, Alex, Ekong, Bassey, Aina and Uzoho were classes above the rest. After watching both games, I am very satisfied with the new coaching setup. We lost to two teams currently better than us, but we pushed them good.
By this time next year in CIV,(God willing) this team will be ready to challenge the likes of Senegal for the Afcon Title.
Now let's go show Salone and Sao Tome what our SE is made of.
Cannot wait to have the likes of Osimhen, Ndidi back
No sir.
They had about 3 or 4 starters, same as us.
The difference our players were jet lagged, while theirs arrived 3 or 4 days ahead of us. They also mostly didn't travel from Europe but were already stateside or coming from Mexico.
The situation completely favored them.
Even after all that if not for that owngoal there wasn't much between the teams.
A meeting of both full teams on neutral territory I would def favor Nigeria. It's not arrogance, it's analysis based on many factors.
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Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
Which tutoring ?Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:17 pmVEvancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:12 pmThe Ecuador team was full. They may have had one or two starters on the bench, but they came on in the 2nd half.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:07 pmNeither of the teams we played had their full compliment of players. We have a lot of work to do, not the least of which is finding adequate backup players. Anytime we go out in front of the public, we must mount a credible challenge, shorthanded or not. We didn’t do that this time aroundvancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:39 pmI dont think either Mexico or Ecuador is better than us with our full compliment of players.Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:26 am I was very impressed, and if not for good goal keeping we would have had a different outcome. Aribo, Alex, Ekong, Bassey, Aina and Uzoho were classes above the rest. After watching both games, I am very satisfied with the new coaching setup. We lost to two teams currently better than us, but we pushed them good.
By this time next year in CIV,(God willing) this team will be ready to challenge the likes of Senegal for the Afcon Title.
Now let's go show Salone and Sao Tome what our SE is made of.
Cannot wait to have the likes of Osimhen, Ndidi back
No sir.
Cheers.
We outplayed them missing half our starters and half our squad. Their goal was a result of a homebased player the NFF were trying to pimp.
That team is not better than us, and neither is Mexico.
We haveen tutored by Mexico for years and they are far higher than us in the vaunted FIFA ranking and you make the above claim. I laugh. You may also claim we have a better team than the USA. I can see that coming. LOL. Mind you the data and objective analysis will easily carpet you on such claims and dreams.
Every match between us despite being pretty much home matches for Mexico have been draws.
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Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
Disman sef. Just acknowledge your bias...txj wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:16 pmCellular wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:11 pm Anyone read the NYT article on the cost of us not qualifying for the World Cup?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/02/spor ... d-cup.html
Yes I did. I read it, shook my head and moved on.
What do those officials care?
They have HB players to market and the likes of you, Gotti and EII to make excuses on their behalf...
If you didn't know the players playing you would swear that some of the pedestrian play was by homebased players.
THERE WAS A COUNTRY...
...can't cry more than the bereaved!
Well done is better than well said!!!
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Well done is better than well said!!!
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Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1
Thank you. That's my view as well.txj wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:21 amGoalgetter wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:00 amIwobi played deep because clearly Peseiro wanted someone who demands and moves the ball upfield fast in that position. He did awesome! Never seen him in that role before.green4life wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:54 amI agree but this is nigeria so I'm not surprised. Ironically I'm surprised that they were able to get his this many SE regulars after the season ended notwithstanding that AFON qualifiers are on the horizon.txj wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:45 amgreen4life wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:42 amDressers and Denis have no explanation for not scoring today. The manager had ample players to beat the most hopeless Ecuador I've ever seen in my life. Anyway we move on to sierra leone
We should have won the game.
But we should have our full squad available for a new manager. There’s no excuse for that…
Going forward, I'd like to see a 433 with Iwobi playing higher upfield. Today's deep role reduced his opportunities to influence the game in the last third.
Who else could have played there?
He simply had nobody else…
Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
Cellular wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:57 pmDisman sef. Just acknowledge your bias...txj wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:16 pmCellular wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:11 pm Anyone read the NYT article on the cost of us not qualifying for the World Cup?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/02/spor ... d-cup.html
Yes I did. I read it, shook my head and moved on.
What do those officials care?
They have HB players to market and the likes of you, Gotti and EII to make excuses on their behalf...
If you didn't know the players playing you would swear that some of the pedestrian play was by homebased players.
I don't judge players by their location. That's precisely why I was scolding Vancity Eagle during the game...
I don't care if they play in Mars, as long as its based on merit...
Form is temporary; Class is Permanent!
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
Naija people, wen una go stop this :vancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:39 pm
I dont think either Mexico or Ecuador is better than us with our full compliment of players.
No sir.
I dont think [__________] is better than us with our full compliment of players.
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Nwabali -- Aina, Bassey, TroostEkong, Sanusi --- Chukwueze, Aribo, Ndidi, Iwobi --- Osimhem, Sadiq Umar
Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
OkRawlings wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:53 pmNaija people, wen una go stop this :vancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:39 pm
I dont think either Mexico or Ecuador is better than us with our full compliment of players.
No sir.
I dont think either [__________] is better than us with our full compliment of players.
Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
Abeg no kill me with laff Na #$% Nigeria wey olodo boku wella we dey talk o!vancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:34 pmWhich team C is that ?scholl wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:28 pmMexico sef used the team C. Once Nigerians wake up to the reality that being noisy does not equate to greatness or even average, it will be the beginning of a transformation and reverse the trend of retardation.vancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:39 pmI dont think either Mexico or Ecuador is better than us with our full compliment of players.Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:26 am I was very impressed, and if not for good goal keeping we would have had a different outcome. Aribo, Alex, Ekong, Bassey, Aina and Uzoho were classes above the rest. After watching both games, I am very satisfied with the new coaching setup. We lost to two teams currently better than us, but we pushed them good.
By this time next year in CIV,(God willing) this team will be ready to challenge the likes of Senegal for the Afcon Title.
Now let's go show Salone and Sao Tome what our SE is made of.
Cannot wait to have the likes of Osimhen, Ndidi back
No sir.
They had about 3 or 4 starters, same as us.
The difference our players were jet lagged, while theirs arrived 3 or 4 days ahead of us. They also mostly didn't travel from Europe but were already stateside or coming from Mexico.
The situation completely favored them.
Even after all that if not for that owngoal there wasn't much between the teams.
A meeting of both full teams on neutral territory I would def favor Nigeria. It's not arrogance, it's analysis based on many factors.
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Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
so highlighting a player who made a mistake is "judging player by location" ?txj wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:54 pmCellular wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:57 pmDisman sef. Just acknowledge your bias...txj wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:16 pmCellular wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:11 pm Anyone read the NYT article on the cost of us not qualifying for the World Cup?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/02/spor ... d-cup.html
Yes I did. I read it, shook my head and moved on.
What do those officials care?
They have HB players to market and the likes of you, Gotti and EII to make excuses on their behalf...
If you didn't know the players playing you would swear that some of the pedestrian play was by homebased players.
I don't judge players by their location. That's precisely why I was scolding Vancity Eagle during the game...
I don't care if they play in Mars, as long as its based on merit...
Am I also judging Simon by his location when I said he is rubbish ?
the homebased guys are not there on merit, its strictly business. You yourself acknowledged this truth, so what on earth are you arguing about ?
Re: Nigeria vs Ecuador 0:1 FT
vancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:10 pmso highlighting a player who made a mistake is "judging player by location" ?txj wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:54 pmCellular wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:57 pmDisman sef. Just acknowledge your bias...txj wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:16 pmCellular wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:11 pm Anyone read the NYT article on the cost of us not qualifying for the World Cup?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/02/spor ... d-cup.html
Yes I did. I read it, shook my head and moved on.
What do those officials care?
They have HB players to market and the likes of you, Gotti and EII to make excuses on their behalf...
If you didn't know the players playing you would swear that some of the pedestrian play was by homebased players.
I don't judge players by their location. That's precisely why I was scolding Vancity Eagle during the game...
I don't care if they play in Mars, as long as its based on merit...
Am I also judging Simon by his location when I said he is rubbish ?
the homebased guys are not there on merit, its strictly business. You yourself acknowledged this truth, so what on earth are you arguing about ?
But you did more than that. Players fail based on a number of factors, not their location.
Form is temporary; Class is Permanent!
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp