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Yes I know it's still early days, and I'm not making this assessment of Peseiro just because we routinely thrashed a really poor opposition but my opinion of Peseiro stems from all the games we've played under him so far. My biggest takeaway from Peseiro's stint so far is his ability to switch things up, God knows we've missed a coach with such versatility...a coach who is willing to adapt to the dynamics of the modern game and isn't so unwilling to try new ideas. I like how he decided to play Bassey as a CB and then switched the LB role to Zaidu (almost as if he knew what Nigerian fans wanted )following Ekong's injury. Another notable quality about him is how he is quick to make subs even at the early half of the game, like against SL when he pulled out Aribo at the start of the second half and immediately brought in Etebo to stabilize the midfied and prevent the SL players from constantly overrunning the midfield as was the case in the first half, since we lacked a proper mobile DM to protect the back for...Etebo came in and effectively shut down the midfield with better mobility and grit.

Also it appears Peseiro is very particular about player roles even while making tactical adjustments, Iwobi seems to be his preferred choice for the deep lying midfield role in a 2 or 3 man midfield, and Iwobi has been massive in that new role so far...it remains to be seen what roles Etebo and Aribo will play once Ndidi returns.
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Tobi17 wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:09 am Yes I know it's still early days, and I'm not making this assessment of Peseiro just because we routinely thrashed a really poor opposition but my opinion of Peseiro stems from all the games we've played under him so far. My biggest takeaway from Peseiro's stint so far is his ability to switch things up, God knows we've missed a coach with such versatility...a coach who is willing to adapt to the dynamics of the modern game and isn't so unwilling to try new ideas. I like how he decided to play Bassey as a CB and then switched the LB role to Zaidu (almost as if he knew what Nigerian fans wanted )following Ekong's injury. Another notable quality about him is how he is quick to make subs even at the early half of the game, like against SL when he pulled out Aribo at the start of the second half and immediately brought in Etebo to stabilize the midfied and prevent the SL players from constantly overrunning the midfield as was the case in the first half, since we lacked a proper mobile DM to protect the back for...Etebo came in and effectively shut down the midfield with better mobility and grit.

Also it appears Peseiro is very particular about player roles even while making tactical adjustments, Iwobi seems to be his preferred choice for the deep lying midfield role in a 2 or 3 man midfield, and Iwobi has been massive in that new role so far...it remains to be seen what roles Etebo and Aribo will play once Ndidi returns.
It’s definitely too early to tell.

Rohr’s switching of the team in the friendly against Argentina in 2017 was the stuff of genius. But I certainly don’t want him back.

I’m hopeful for Coach P and thrilled we thrashed Africa’s 51st ranked teams. But we’re 2-2 under him and the only credible test will come in next year’s Afcon and any top friendlies we play before then.

The great news he’s inherited a talented squad and once he sorts out the centre half and goalkeeping problems, he’ll have an exceptional squad to work with.
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waka-man wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:29 am
Tobi17 wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:09 am Yes I know it's still early days, and I'm not making this assessment of Peseiro just because we routinely thrashed a really poor opposition but my opinion of Peseiro stems from all the games we've played under him so far. My biggest takeaway from Peseiro's stint so far is his ability to switch things up, God knows we've missed a coach with such versatility...a coach who is willing to adapt to the dynamics of the modern game and isn't so unwilling to try new ideas. I like how he decided to play Bassey as a CB and then switched the LB role to Zaidu (almost as if he knew what Nigerian fans wanted )following Ekong's injury. Another notable quality about him is how he is quick to make subs even at the early half of the game, like against SL when he pulled out Aribo at the start of the second half and immediately brought in Etebo to stabilize the midfied and prevent the SL players from constantly overrunning the midfield as was the case in the first half, since we lacked a proper mobile DM to protect the back for...Etebo came in and effectively shut down the midfield with better mobility and grit.

Also it appears Peseiro is very particular about player roles even while making tactical adjustments, Iwobi seems to be his preferred choice for the deep lying midfield role in a 2 or 3 man midfield, and Iwobi has been massive in that new role so far...it remains to be seen what roles Etebo and Aribo will play once Ndidi returns.
It’s definitely too early to tell.

Rohr’s switching of the team in the friendly against Argentina in 2017 was the stuff of genius. But I certainly don’t want him back.

I’m hopeful for Coach P and thrilled we thrashed Africa’s 51st ranked teams. But we’re 2-2 under him and the only credible test will come in next year’s Afcon and any top friendlies we play before then.

The great news he’s inherited a talented squad and once he sorts out the centre half and goalkeeping problems, he’ll have an exceptional squad to work with.
The highlighted is an exaggeration. We do not have goal keeping problems. True, we do not have a Mendy, Enyeama. or Courtois but our current goal keepers a pretty decent. Uzoho has been in goal for the last 4 games and has been good. We can't becuase of the one-off mistakes claim we have GK issues. All GKs make errors especially the young ones like we have. I am confident they will come good
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waka-man wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:29 am
Tobi17 wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:09 am Yes I know it's still early days, and I'm not making this assessment of Peseiro just because we routinely thrashed a really poor opposition but my opinion of Peseiro stems from all the games we've played under him so far. My biggest takeaway from Peseiro's stint so far is his ability to switch things up, God knows we've missed a coach with such versatility...a coach who is willing to adapt to the dynamics of the modern game and isn't so unwilling to try new ideas. I like how he decided to play Bassey as a CB and then switched the LB role to Zaidu (almost as if he knew what Nigerian fans wanted )following Ekong's injury. Another notable quality about him is how he is quick to make subs even at the early half of the game, like against SL when he pulled out Aribo at the start of the second half and immediately brought in Etebo to stabilize the midfied and prevent the SL players from constantly overrunning the midfield as was the case in the first half, since we lacked a proper mobile DM to protect the back for...Etebo came in and effectively shut down the midfield with better mobility and grit.

Also it appears Peseiro is very particular about player roles even while making tactical adjustments, Iwobi seems to be his preferred choice for the deep lying midfield role in a 2 or 3 man midfield, and Iwobi has been massive in that new role so far...it remains to be seen what roles Etebo and Aribo will play once Ndidi returns.
It’s definitely too early to tell.

Rohr’s switching of the team in the friendly against Argentina in 2017 was the stuff of genius. But I certainly don’t want him back.

I’m hopeful for Coach P and thrilled we thrashed Africa’s 51st ranked teams. But we’re 2-2 under him and the only credible test will come in next year’s Afcon and any top friendlies we play before then.

The great news he’s inherited a talented squad and once he sorts out the centre half and goalkeeping problems, he’ll have an exceptional squad to work with.
I agree that it is early but the signs are there. I wonder whether what we see now is simply a new manager attempting to find out what works for his team before he settles? It will be unusual for a human not to eventually settle into a routine. We all do and Peseiro will. For me, though, it seems that he is more willing to take the initiative and not depend on the opponent doing so. It is refreshing and this is not about this last game but about the friendlies in the USA. Those signify a marked difference in approach from recent times. We last saw that from likes of Keshi and Westerhoff.
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waka-man wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:29 am
Tobi17 wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:09 am Yes I know it's still early days, and I'm not making this assessment of Peseiro just because we routinely thrashed a really poor opposition but my opinion of Peseiro stems from all the games we've played under him so far. My biggest takeaway from Peseiro's stint so far is his ability to switch things up, God knows we've missed a coach with such versatility...a coach who is willing to adapt to the dynamics of the modern game and isn't so unwilling to try new ideas. I like how he decided to play Bassey as a CB and then switched the LB role to Zaidu (almost as if he knew what Nigerian fans wanted )following Ekong's injury. Another notable quality about him is how he is quick to make subs even at the early half of the game, like against SL when he pulled out Aribo at the start of the second half and immediately brought in Etebo to stabilize the midfied and prevent the SL players from constantly overrunning the midfield as was the case in the first half, since we lacked a proper mobile DM to protect the back for...Etebo came in and effectively shut down the midfield with better mobility and grit.

Also it appears Peseiro is very particular about player roles even while making tactical adjustments, Iwobi seems to be his preferred choice for the deep lying midfield role in a 2 or 3 man midfield, and Iwobi has been massive in that new role so far...it remains to be seen what roles Etebo and Aribo will play once Ndidi returns.
It’s definitely too early to tell.

Rohr’s switching of the team in the friendly against Argentina in 2017 was the stuff of genius. But I certainly don’t want him back.

I’m hopeful for Coach P and thrilled we thrashed Africa’s 51st ranked teams. But we’re 2-2 under him and the only credible test will come in next year’s Afcon and any top friendlies we play before then.

The great news he’s inherited a talented squad and once he sorts out the centre half and goalkeeping problems, he’ll have an exceptional squad to work with.
This is what good teams do.
Thrash teams decisively you are supposed to . Not struggle, drag with them and end up with a draw.
Maybe it's unfair to say we are 2 - 2 under Preserio.
The first 2 games ( Mexico & Ecuador, i doubt if any Coach taking over the team when he did would have done much better. Maybe play defensive for a draw and then everyone go begin shout and complain again.
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For me these are "preliminary games" where the manager is laying out his methods and all. Nothing beyond that...
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The beating of Sao Tome was good, but I still think we crossed the 'professional' line in what we did. I think five, or six goals should have been enough. Thereafter, we should have made it a 'practice game' and STOP scoring.

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Odas wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:48 pm The beating of Sao Tome was good, but I still think we crossed the 'professional' line in what we did. I think five, or six goals should have been enough. Thereafter, we should have made it a 'practice game' and STOP scoring.

Well, e gud sha, wetin smol pikin like me sabi?
We were playing grown adults not kids so this shouldn’t be an issue or be unsportsmanlike. Their other opponents won’t stop scoring on them after 5 and it’s a qualification series so in order to make sure we qualify, every goal counts.
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maceo4 wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:32 pm
Odas wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:48 pm The beating of Sao Tome was good, but I still think we crossed the 'professional' line in what we did. I think five, or six goals should have been enough. Thereafter, we should have made it a 'practice game' and STOP scoring.

Well, e gud sha, wetin smol pikin like me sabi?
We were playing grown adults not kids so this shouldn’t be an issue or be unsportsmanlike. Their other opponents won’t stop scoring on them after 5 and it’s a qualification series so in order to make sure we qualify, every goal counts.
Exactly...it is actually more disrespectful for you stop playing because you thing the other team is inferior? chasing down every ball is the biggest respect you can pay your opponent.
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The only thing exciting about Peseiro is that he is dynamic and charismatic. You either put up or sit ur behind on the bench...

Making Moses Simon the captain though....Thats worrying....
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Its not unusual to make your best player captain...
Enyi wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:07 pm The only thing exciting about Peseiro is that he is dynamic and charismatic. You either put up or sit ur behind on the bench...

Making Moses Simon the captain though....Thats worrying....
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Odas wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:48 pm The beating of Sao Tome was good, but I still think we crossed the 'professional' line in what we did. I think five, or six goals should have been enough. Thereafter, we should have made it a 'practice game' and STOP scoring.

Well, e gud sha, wetin smol pikin like me sabi?
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maceo4 wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:32 pm
Odas wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:48 pm The beating of Sao Tome was good, but I still think we crossed the 'professional' line in what we did. I think five, or six goals should have been enough. Thereafter, we should have made it a 'practice game' and STOP scoring.

Well, e gud sha, wetin smol pikin like me sabi?
We were playing grown adults not kids so this shouldn’t be an issue or be unsportsmanlike. Their other opponents won’t stop scoring on them after 5 and it’s a qualification series so in order to make sure we qualify, every goal counts.
Can you believe it? How dummmmb a person can be? We should risk our qualification and take a qualifying game as "practice." smh everyday, it gets clearer why these same people were the ones who supported ****
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nanijoe wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:23 pm Its not unusual to make your best player captain...
Enyi wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:07 pm The only thing exciting about Peseiro is that he is dynamic and charismatic. You either put up or sit ur behind on the bench...

Making Moses Simon the captain though....Thats worrying....
Moses Simon is not our best player. He is good though.
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vancity eagle wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:23 pm
nanijoe wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:23 pm Its not unusual to make your best player captain...
Enyi wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:07 pm The only thing exciting about Peseiro is that he is dynamic and charismatic. You either put up or sit ur behind on the bench...

Making Moses Simon the captain though....Thats worrying....
Moses Simon is not our best player. He is good though.
Huh????? :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:
What did you just say????
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Enyi wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:04 pm
maceo4 wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:32 pm
Odas wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:48 pm The beating of Sao Tome was good, but I still think we crossed the 'professional' line in what we did. I think five, or six goals should have been enough. Thereafter, we should have made it a 'practice game' and STOP scoring.

Well, e gud sha, wetin smol pikin like me sabi?
We were playing grown adults not kids so this shouldn’t be an issue or be unsportsmanlike. Their other opponents won’t stop scoring on them after 5 and it’s a qualification series so in order to make sure we qualify, every goal counts.
Exactly...it is actually more disrespectful for you stop playing because you thing the other team is inferior? chasing down every ball is the biggest respect you can pay your opponent.
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Damunk wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:30 pm
vancity eagle wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:23 pm
nanijoe wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:23 pm Its not unusual to make your best player captain...
Enyi wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:07 pm The only thing exciting about Peseiro is that he is dynamic and charismatic. You either put up or sit ur behind on the bench...

Making Moses Simon the captain though....Thats worrying....
Moses Simon is not our best player. He is good though.
Huh????? :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:
What did you just say????
Let that go gently and gently. At least he is MAN enough to admit......
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You can't be serious? Have u ever watched Germany play against countries like, Farrow Island, Lichtenstein, Malta, etc.? Germany will keep scoring until the ref blows the last whistle.

So there's nothing unprofessional about it..


quote=Odas post_id=5780655 time=1655221727 user_id=1071]

The beating of Sao Tome was good, but I still think we crossed the 'professional' line in what we did. I think five, or six goals should have been enough. Thereafter, we should have made it a 'practice game' and STOP scoring.

Well, e gud sha, wetin smol pikin like me sabi?
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Next wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:11 pm You can't be serious? Have u ever watched Germany play against countries like, Farrow Island, Lichtenstein, Malta, etc.? Germany will keep scoring until the ref blows the last whistle.

So there's nothing unprofessional about it..


quote=Odas post_id=5780655 time=1655221727 user_id=1071]

The beating of Sao Tome was good, but I still think we crossed the 'professional' line in what we did. I think five, or six goals should have been enough. Thereafter, we should have made it a 'practice game' and STOP scoring.

Well, e gud sha, wetin smol pikin like me sabi?
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Damunk wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:30 pm
vancity eagle wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:23 pm
nanijoe wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:23 pm Its not unusual to make your best player captain...
Enyi wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:07 pm The only thing exciting about Peseiro is that he is dynamic and charismatic. You either put up or sit ur behind on the bench...

Making Moses Simon the captain though....Thats worrying....
Moses Simon is not our best player. He is good though.
Huh????? :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:
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Odas wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:48 pm The beating of Sao Tome was good, but I still think we crossed the 'professional' line in what we did. I think five, or six goals should have been enough. Thereafter, we should have made it a 'practice game' and STOP scoring.

Well, e gud sha, wetin smol pikin like me sabi?
I tend to agree with you. “Running up the score” after you’ve comfortably beaten an opponent is considered unprofessional. By the 66th minute, we were already up 8-0. The game was pretty much over by then. The final 2 goals came in the 84th and 92nd minutes. Was that really necessary❓❗️


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TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:30 pm
Odas wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:48 pm The beating of Sao Tome was good, but I still think we crossed the 'professional' line in what we did. I think five, or six goals should have been enough. Thereafter, we should have made it a 'practice game' and STOP scoring.

Well, e gud sha, wetin smol pikin like me sabi?
I tend to agree with you. “Running up the score” after you’ve comfortably beaten an opponent is considered unprofessional. By the 66th minute, we were already up 8-0. The game was pretty much over by then. The final 2 goals came in the 84th and 92nd minutes. Was that really necessary❓❗️


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TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:30 pm
Odas wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:48 pm The beating of Sao Tome was good, but I still think we crossed the 'professional' line in what we did. I think five, or six goals should have been enough. Thereafter, we should have made it a 'practice game' and STOP scoring.

Well, e gud sha, wetin smol pikin like me sabi?
I tend to agree with you. “Running up the score” after you’ve comfortably beaten an opponent is considered unprofessional. By the 66th minute, we were already up 8-0. The game was pretty much over by then. The final 2 goals came in the 84th and 92nd minutes. Was that really necessary❓❗️


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Are you guyz serious?? What if it comes to goal difference?

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