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You are talking of what will happen and I am talking about what is happening. I wonder what gives you and Damunkey the right to evaluate Moffi based on your OPINION of his performance but question others statement of fact about Awoniyi's performance? Are you and Damunkey biased against Moffi? Why? Shouldn't Awoniyi be competing with Osimhen, Nacho, Sadiq, and Denis also? You guys are paranoid.
Enugu II wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:21 pm 1naija,

You mischaracterize the manager's opinion here. I want that to be clear. Peseiro has not in any way suggested that Moffi is better than Awoniyi. That much is clear. What Peseiro has suggested is that Moffi is better than those the manager has seen at the SE camp. As far as I am aware, Awoniyi was not invited in order to be evaluated by Peseiro. The point here is that it will occur in the future and only at that time can we make the claim that you just made.
1naija wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:02 pm EII, and whose opinion are you stating if not yours? Who are the majority that disagree with me? You and Damunkey? My opinion seems to be consistent with the coaches opinions, which is why he has not been invited back to the team. You and Damunkey can make it about me all you want, but when a player goes from playing 80+ minutes to 60 minutes to being on the bench and then out of team, someone else besides me thought he was piss poor in the tournament. So i think it's your opinion that in the minority. Mind you we are talking about his performance for the SE.
Enugu II wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:34 pm 1naija

But that is your opinion and others do not agree with it. Moffi, as far as i am concerned, has not impressed except for the 10-0 game when everyone performed well against an overmatched opponent. Moffi was a shock selection for many on this site to start alongside Osimhen. That is because he did not exactly impress prior to that selection by Peseiro.

As for Awoniyi, I strongly feel he is a better player based on what I have seen. That, of course, may not be shared by others. I certainly like his work rate and the regularity in which he places himself in critical spots.

I am convinced that we have not heard the last on Awoniyi as far as the Nigerian national team is concerned. Bet on that.

1naija wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:20 pm Dude, what exactly am i biased about? The only thing that has written off Awoniyi so far is his performance for the SE when he had the chance. You blame it on whoever and whatever, but thats the simple fact. We all watched the games he played, and most people questioned his performance in those games. The threads are still here on the forum. The question again is, what did you see in those games that most people on the game thread didnt see and the coaches didn't see? And what did you see his performances that made you rate him over Moffi and Dessers who clearly performed better with the chance they had. Are you sure you are not the one that is biased?

I brought up Onyekuru and co because if it's club performance you are using to rate Awoniyi, those players often do well at their clubs also, but you are not clamoring for them to be brought back to the SE because of those stats you posted. The point is you should be consistent in assessing players. You can't use club performance to rate some players and use SE performance to rate others. That is bias!

If Awoniyi gets another opportunity, he is going to have to excel or someone else will get the spot, Simple. That's just the nature of the business. It's the National team. No player is entitled to a spot on it.

Damunk wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:05 am :lol: :lol: :lol:
Unkulu 1Naira.
Don’t be so touchy - you reveal yourself when everyone is laughing and you dey frown. Na joke we dey joke with you. It shouldnt be about their names, but about performance.
So taking a look at your comparisons….

Onuachu - 16 caps, 3 goals (Age 28)
Onyekuru - 15 caps, 1 goal (Age 25)
Nwankwor - 4 caps, 0 goals (Age 30)
Awoniyi - 4 caps, 1 goal (Age 24)
It seems you are a little biased. Writing off a young 24 yr old player on an upward trajectory after just 4 caps at just ONE 4-game tournament?
Why so quick?

Your opinion is just a minority report, which you are entitled to, but makes very little sense.
You don’t condemn a player with just 4 games under his belt, unless of course he was near hopeless.
A wo-rrying trend. :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:
1naija wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:42 am Thats becauss you are looking at the Awo in his name to rate him higher than his performance for the SE called for. His performance at Union Berlin earned him the invitation to the SE. Unfortunately for him it's performance for the SE that keeps players in the team. Just ask Sadiq

I wonder why you are not making the same argument for Onyekuru, Onuachu, Simi Nwankwo, and all the other players do well at their clubs but performed poorly for the SE. Let me guess...they don't have Awo in their names.

The last game Taiwo played for Nigeria was against Tunisia at the AFCON. Since then Nigeria has played 6 games withoit inviting him. I guess the coaches don't like players with Awo in their names either.
Damunk wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:24 am I agree with you.
The only person that consistently puts this guy down is 1Naira.
But we know 1Naira only has to see ‘Awo-‘ and he completely loses it. :rotf:

I suspect he hasn’t read the name in full and believes he is Taiwo Awolowo.
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Re: Nottingham Forest in talks to sign Taiwo Awoniyi

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1naija

Again, i have not questioned your opinion as being irrelevant. I have, however, stated mine and i am convinced that Awoniyi is a better option as i mentioned. I would actually claim that you seem to elevate your OPINION above everyone else as if it is sacrosanct. It is Your opinion and nothing else. I have stated mine as well.

1naija wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:50 pm You are talking of what will happen and I am talking about what is happening. I wonder what gives you and Damunkey the right to evaluate Moffi based on your OPINION of his performance but question others statement of fact about Awoniyi's performance? Are you and Damunkey biased against Moffi? Why? Shouldn't Awoniyi be competing with Osimhen, Nacho, Sadiq, and Denis also? You guys are paranoid.
Enugu II wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:21 pm 1naija,

You mischaracterize the manager's opinion here. I want that to be clear. Peseiro has not in any way suggested that Moffi is better than Awoniyi. That much is clear. What Peseiro has suggested is that Moffi is better than those the manager has seen at the SE camp. As far as I am aware, Awoniyi was not invited in order to be evaluated by Peseiro. The point here is that it will occur in the future and only at that time can we make the claim that you just made.
1naija wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:02 pm EII, and whose opinion are you stating if not yours? Who are the majority that disagree with me? You and Damunkey? My opinion seems to be consistent with the coaches opinions, which is why he has not been invited back to the team. You and Damunkey can make it about me all you want, but when a player goes from playing 80+ minutes to 60 minutes to being on the bench and then out of team, someone else besides me thought he was piss poor in the tournament. So i think it's your opinion that in the minority. Mind you we are talking about his performance for the SE.
Enugu II wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:34 pm 1naija

But that is your opinion and others do not agree with it. Moffi, as far as i am concerned, has not impressed except for the 10-0 game when everyone performed well against an overmatched opponent. Moffi was a shock selection for many on this site to start alongside Osimhen. That is because he did not exactly impress prior to that selection by Peseiro.

As for Awoniyi, I strongly feel he is a better player based on what I have seen. That, of course, may not be shared by others. I certainly like his work rate and the regularity in which he places himself in critical spots.

I am convinced that we have not heard the last on Awoniyi as far as the Nigerian national team is concerned. Bet on that.

1naija wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:20 pm Dude, what exactly am i biased about? The only thing that has written off Awoniyi so far is his performance for the SE when he had the chance. You blame it on whoever and whatever, but thats the simple fact. We all watched the games he played, and most people questioned his performance in those games. The threads are still here on the forum. The question again is, what did you see in those games that most people on the game thread didnt see and the coaches didn't see? And what did you see his performances that made you rate him over Moffi and Dessers who clearly performed better with the chance they had. Are you sure you are not the one that is biased?

I brought up Onyekuru and co because if it's club performance you are using to rate Awoniyi, those players often do well at their clubs also, but you are not clamoring for them to be brought back to the SE because of those stats you posted. The point is you should be consistent in assessing players. You can't use club performance to rate some players and use SE performance to rate others. That is bias!

If Awoniyi gets another opportunity, he is going to have to excel or someone else will get the spot, Simple. That's just the nature of the business. It's the National team. No player is entitled to a spot on it.

Damunk wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:05 am :lol: :lol: :lol:
Unkulu 1Naira.
Don’t be so touchy - you reveal yourself when everyone is laughing and you dey frown. Na joke we dey joke with you. It shouldnt be about their names, but about performance.
So taking a look at your comparisons….

Onuachu - 16 caps, 3 goals (Age 28)
Onyekuru - 15 caps, 1 goal (Age 25)
Nwankwor - 4 caps, 0 goals (Age 30)
Awoniyi - 4 caps, 1 goal (Age 24)
It seems you are a little biased. Writing off a young 24 yr old player on an upward trajectory after just 4 caps at just ONE 4-game tournament?
Why so quick?

Your opinion is just a minority report, which you are entitled to, but makes very little sense.
You don’t condemn a player with just 4 games under his belt, unless of course he was near hopeless.
A wo-rrying trend. :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:
1naija wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:42 am Thats becauss you are looking at the Awo in his name to rate him higher than his performance for the SE called for. His performance at Union Berlin earned him the invitation to the SE. Unfortunately for him it's performance for the SE that keeps players in the team. Just ask Sadiq

I wonder why you are not making the same argument for Onyekuru, Onuachu, Simi Nwankwo, and all the other players do well at their clubs but performed poorly for the SE. Let me guess...they don't have Awo in their names.

The last game Taiwo played for Nigeria was against Tunisia at the AFCON. Since then Nigeria has played 6 games withoit inviting him. I guess the coaches don't like players with Awo in their names either.

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BTW, EII, this is what you wrote just a week or so ago. You must love Awoniyi performances so much that you forgot to include him in your list. And you question me for having a more objective opinion of his performances for the SE?

Na eye service una dey do here :rotf: :rotf:
Enugu II wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:00 pm Jose Peserio has now managed these players for 4 games. In my view, Peserio did not himself pick the squad for the two international friendlies but may have been made aware of the squad and why the players were selected. He was likely involved in pruning that list for the two competitive games having watched the players at close quatrters. Now, he is more likely to be intricately involved in selecting the next squad. Given what you have seen thus far (under Peseiro), who do you think is a sure bet to remain in the squad? Who is hanging by the thread? and who is headed out? Here is my view:

DEFINITELY IN
Alex Iwobi
Oghenekaro Etebo
Victor Osimhen
Joseph Aribo
Bassey
Lookman
Francius Uzoho
Moses Simon
Semi Ajayi
Emmanuel Dennis
William Ekong
Zaidu Sanusi
Wilfred Ndidi ???
Ahmed Musa


STARTER STATUS IN JEOPARDY

Aina (as per starter status)
Samuel Chukwueze (as per starter status)
Sadiq Umar (???)

HANGING BY A THREAD
Maduka Okoye
Abdullahi Shehu
Leon Balogun
Chiedozie Awaziem
Kenneth Omeruo

HEADED OUT
John Noble
Daniel Akpeyi]
Kelechi Nwakali
Jude Ighalo

**Will modify list as the discussion goes on.**

NOTE: This weekend, Peseiro is scheduled to be at one of the NPFL venues to watch a crucial league game.
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What you are calling my opinion are facts!

It is a fact that Awoniyi had a poor AFCON and has one accidental goal in over 300 minutes of football for the SE.
It is a fact that the coaches also thought his performances were poor as evidenced by his declining minutes during the tournament.
It is also a fact that he has not been invited back to the team since the Nations cup eventhough he is has been healthy.
And it is a fact that you also agree with these facts or you would have not omitted his name from your list of players for consideration.

In fact I would submit that I have not made an opinion one way or the other about Awoniyi. The only thing I have done is point out that he had a horrible performance at the Nations cup.

Enugu II wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:55 pm 1naija

Again, i have not questioned your opinion as being irrelevant. I have, however, stated mine and i am convinced that Awoniyi is a better option as i mentioned. I would actually claim that you seem to elevate your OPINION above everyone else as if it is sacrosanct. It is Your opinion and nothing else. I have stated mine as well.

1naija wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:50 pm You are talking of what will happen and I am talking about what is happening. I wonder what gives you and Damunkey the right to evaluate Moffi based on your OPINION of his performance but question others statement of fact about Awoniyi's performance? Are you and Damunkey biased against Moffi? Why? Shouldn't Awoniyi be competing with Osimhen, Nacho, Sadiq, and Denis also? You guys are paranoid.
Enugu II wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:21 pm 1naija,

You mischaracterize the manager's opinion here. I want that to be clear. Peseiro has not in any way suggested that Moffi is better than Awoniyi. That much is clear. What Peseiro has suggested is that Moffi is better than those the manager has seen at the SE camp. As far as I am aware, Awoniyi was not invited in order to be evaluated by Peseiro. The point here is that it will occur in the future and only at that time can we make the claim that you just made.
1naija wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:02 pm EII, and whose opinion are you stating if not yours? Who are the majority that disagree with me? You and Damunkey? My opinion seems to be consistent with the coaches opinions, which is why he has not been invited back to the team. You and Damunkey can make it about me all you want, but when a player goes from playing 80+ minutes to 60 minutes to being on the bench and then out of team, someone else besides me thought he was piss poor in the tournament. So i think it's your opinion that in the minority. Mind you we are talking about his performance for the SE.
Enugu II wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:34 pm 1naija

But that is your opinion and others do not agree with it. Moffi, as far as i am concerned, has not impressed except for the 10-0 game when everyone performed well against an overmatched opponent. Moffi was a shock selection for many on this site to start alongside Osimhen. That is because he did not exactly impress prior to that selection by Peseiro.

As for Awoniyi, I strongly feel he is a better player based on what I have seen. That, of course, may not be shared by others. I certainly like his work rate and the regularity in which he places himself in critical spots.

I am convinced that we have not heard the last on Awoniyi as far as the Nigerian national team is concerned. Bet on that.

1naija wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:20 pm Dude, what exactly am i biased about? The only thing that has written off Awoniyi so far is his performance for the SE when he had the chance. You blame it on whoever and whatever, but thats the simple fact. We all watched the games he played, and most people questioned his performance in those games. The threads are still here on the forum. The question again is, what did you see in those games that most people on the game thread didnt see and the coaches didn't see? And what did you see his performances that made you rate him over Moffi and Dessers who clearly performed better with the chance they had. Are you sure you are not the one that is biased?

I brought up Onyekuru and co because if it's club performance you are using to rate Awoniyi, those players often do well at their clubs also, but you are not clamoring for them to be brought back to the SE because of those stats you posted. The point is you should be consistent in assessing players. You can't use club performance to rate some players and use SE performance to rate others. That is bias!

If Awoniyi gets another opportunity, he is going to have to excel or someone else will get the spot, Simple. That's just the nature of the business. It's the National team. No player is entitled to a spot on it.

Damunk wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:05 am :lol: :lol: :lol:
Unkulu 1Naira.
Don’t be so touchy - you reveal yourself when everyone is laughing and you dey frown. Na joke we dey joke with you. It shouldnt be about their names, but about performance.
So taking a look at your comparisons….

Onuachu - 16 caps, 3 goals (Age 28)
Onyekuru - 15 caps, 1 goal (Age 25)
Nwankwor - 4 caps, 0 goals (Age 30)
Awoniyi - 4 caps, 1 goal (Age 24)
It seems you are a little biased. Writing off a young 24 yr old player on an upward trajectory after just 4 caps at just ONE 4-game tournament?
Why so quick?

Your opinion is just a minority report, which you are entitled to, but makes very little sense.
You don’t condemn a player with just 4 games under his belt, unless of course he was near hopeless.
A wo-rrying trend. :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:
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maceo4 wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:21 pm
Kneedeep wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:37 pm My concern is placing our young players in these desperate relegation fests. Can't be good for the psyche but this is a business. I hope he gets paid.
I don't know about that, see what it did for Iwobi....
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Precisely, nothing in here has changed. Thank you for posting this. If you agree with that statement you must then agree that the Manager has not yet had opportunity to see Awoniyi up close to determine that he is not good. I struggle to understand how this contradicts my position or how it sipports yours. Obviously, you are struggling to have a conversation. Unfortunately, no need to indulge you. You hold to your opinion. It is all yours and it is acceptable. Hopefully, you realize others have opinions that differ.
1naija wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:58 pm BTW, EII, this is what you wrote just a week or so ago. You must love Awoniyi performances so much that you forgot to include him in your list. And you question me for having a more objective opinion of his performances for the SE?

Na eye service una dey do here :rotf: :rotf:
Enugu II wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:00 pm Jose Peserio has now managed these players for 4 games. In my view, Peserio did not himself pick the squad for the two international friendlies but may have been made aware of the squad and why the players were selected. He was likely involved in pruning that list for the two competitive games having watched the players at close quatrters. Now, he is more likely to be intricately involved in selecting the next squad. Given what you have seen thus far (under Peseiro), who do you think is a sure bet to remain in the squad? Who is hanging by the thread? and who is headed out? Here is my view:

DEFINITELY IN
Alex Iwobi
Oghenekaro Etebo
Victor Osimhen
Joseph Aribo
Bassey
Lookman
Francius Uzoho
Moses Simon
Semi Ajayi
Emmanuel Dennis
William Ekong
Zaidu Sanusi
Wilfred Ndidi ???
Ahmed Musa


STARTER STATUS IN JEOPARDY

Aina (as per starter status)
Samuel Chukwueze (as per starter status)
Sadiq Umar (???)

HANGING BY A THREAD
Maduka Okoye
Abdullahi Shehu
Leon Balogun
Chiedozie Awaziem
Kenneth Omeruo

HEADED OUT
John Noble
Daniel Akpeyi]
Kelechi Nwakali
Jude Ighalo

**Will modify list as the discussion goes on.**

NOTE: This weekend, Peseiro is scheduled to be at one of the NPFL venues to watch a crucial league game.
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Has the coach evaluated John Noble
Daniel Akpeyi, Kelechi Nwakali and Jude Ighalo upclose for you to reach the conclusion that they are headed out? When did the coach evaluate Ndidi for you to conclude he is in? Again why is it that you can evaluate players (including Awoniyi), but i am biased when i share similar opinion about a player? That's the issue here.

Enugu II wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:30 am Precisely, nothing in here has changed. Thank you for posting this. If you agree with that statement you must then agree that the Manager has not yet had opportunity to see Awoniyi up close to determine that he is not good. I struggle to understand how this contradicts my position or how it sipports yours. Obviously, you are struggling to have a conversation. Unfortunately, no need to indulge you. You hold to your opinion. It is all yours and it is acceptable. Hopefully, you realize others have opinions that differ.
1naija wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:58 pm BTW, EII, this is what you wrote just a week or so ago. You must love Awoniyi performances so much that you forgot to include him in your list. And you question me for having a more objective opinion of his performances for the SE?

Na eye service una dey do here :rotf: :rotf:
Enugu II wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:00 pm Jose Peserio has now managed these players for 4 games. In my view, Peserio did not himself pick the squad for the two international friendlies but may have been made aware of the squad and why the players were selected. He was likely involved in pruning that list for the two competitive games having watched the players at close quatrters. Now, he is more likely to be intricately involved in selecting the next squad. Given what you have seen thus far (under Peseiro), who do you think is a sure bet to remain in the squad? Who is hanging by the thread? and who is headed out? Here is my view:

DEFINITELY IN
Alex Iwobi
Oghenekaro Etebo
Victor Osimhen
Joseph Aribo
Bassey
Lookman
Francius Uzoho
Moses Simon
Semi Ajayi
Emmanuel Dennis
William Ekong
Zaidu Sanusi
Wilfred Ndidi ???
Ahmed Musa


STARTER STATUS IN JEOPARDY

Aina (as per starter status)
Samuel Chukwueze (as per starter status)
Sadiq Umar (???)

HANGING BY A THREAD
Maduka Okoye
Abdullahi Shehu
Leon Balogun
Chiedozie Awaziem
Kenneth Omeruo

HEADED OUT
John Noble
Daniel Akpeyi]
Kelechi Nwakali
Jude Ighalo

**Will modify list as the discussion goes on.**

NOTE: This weekend, Peseiro is scheduled to be at one of the NPFL venues to watch a crucial league game.
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return2k2 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:16 pm
This is why I'm always cautious about analysis from London by innits. They don't even know that Osihmen smashed the Nigerian striker transfer record.. innit? :laugh:
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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:06 am
return2k2 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:16 pm
This is why I'm always cautious about analysis from London by innits. They don't even know that Osihmen smashed the Nigerian striker transfer record.. innit? :laugh:
Guy, stop embarrassing yourself.
When did Osimhen get signed for an EPL club, which is what the innit boys are debating?
Or you think Napoli is in England? You Yankee ‘soccer’ fans sef.
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Damunk wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:05 am
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:06 am
return2k2 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:16 pm
This is why I'm always cautious about analysis from London by innits. They don't even know that Osihmen smashed the Nigerian striker transfer record.. innit? :laugh:
Guy, stop embarrassing yourself.
When did Osimhen get signed for an EPL club, which is what the innit boys are debating?
Or you think Napoli is in England? You Yankee ‘soccer’ fans sef.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
It wouldn’t have hurt them to do a little research on Nigerian players in England. They didn’t seem to know a whole lot about Nigerian player transfer history in the premier league. Iwobi is the most expensive Nigerian transfer at £28-34m, followed by Iheanacho at £25-30m. Ndidi cost £17m while Mikel cost a miserly £16m❗️


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Uncle Tony the paper tiger killer, how much research do you do before position gibberish here? These are just 3 JBless guys talking gibberish on their Youtube channel, much like what 90% of you very very old people do here. The question should be, what is the video doing on this forum? Not whether they did any research or not. What research did Uncle EII or Damunkey do before declaring the said player with ZERO real goals in over 300 minutes for the SE better than Moffi with 2 goals in crucial AFCON qualifiers. :D
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:15 pm
Damunk wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:05 am
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:06 am
return2k2 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:16 pm
This is why I'm always cautious about analysis from London by innits. They don't even know that Osihmen smashed the Nigerian striker transfer record.. innit? :laugh:
Guy, stop embarrassing yourself.
When did Osimhen get signed for an EPL club, which is what the innit boys are debating?
Or you think Napoli is in England? You Yankee ‘soccer’ fans sef.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
It wouldn’t have hurt them to do a little research on Nigerian players in England. They didn’t seem to know a whole lot about Nigerian player transfer history in the premier league. Iwobi is the most expensive Nigerian transfer at £28-34m, followed by Iheanacho at £25-30m. Ndidi cost £17m while Mikel cost a miserly £16m❗️


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1naija wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:40 pm Uncle Tony the paper tiger killer, how much research do you do before position gibberish here? These are just 3 JBless guys talking gibberish on their Youtube channel, much like what 90% of you very very old people do here. The question should be, what is the video doing on this forum? Not whether they did any research or not. What research did Uncle EII or Damunkey do before declaring the said player with ZERO real goals in over 300 minutes for the SE better than Moffi with 2 goals in crucial AFCON qualifiers. :D
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return2k2 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:16 pm
This is why I'm always cautious about analysis from London by innits. They don't even know that Osihmen smashed the Nigerian striker transfer record.. innit? :laugh:
Guy, stop embarrassing yourself.
When did Osimhen get signed for an EPL club, which is what the innit boys are debating?
Or you think Napoli is in England? You Yankee ‘soccer’ fans sef.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
It wouldn’t have hurt them to do a little research on Nigerian players in England. They didn’t seem to know a whole lot about Nigerian player transfer history in the premier league. Iwobi is the most expensive Nigerian transfer at £28-34m, followed by Iheanacho at £25-30m. Ndidi cost £17m while Mikel cost a miserly £16m❗️


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What are you ranting about, senile old man? Are you sure you’re speaking English? It’s way past your bedtime. Have a glass of milk and go to bed, you naughty, old geezer🙂❗️


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return2k2 wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:23 pm



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Where were all these during the ANC now? He looks sharp on these goals. Granted some of those Germans play like hey yous ... :D


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1naija wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:00 pm Where were all these during the ANC now? He looks sharp on these goals. Granted some of those Germans play like hey yous ... :D


:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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You don’t judge a player based on four games and “only” one goal.
Go and write it down and then sleep on it.
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Obviously, you haven't paid attention over the years or you would have known or seen that I don't follow club football. I am a Super Eagles fan, period! My assessment of his performance was based solely on his performance for the SE. And I have repeated that many many times. I know you want to blame me for everything under the sun, but I am not the reason he did not perform well for the SE when he had the opportunitIES. Besides, those goals were what got him the invitation to the SE and rightfully so. But when you get there, you have to perform to keep the spot. What you want to do instead is shove him in the team ahead of players like Sadiq, Dessers, and Moffi who took advantage of their opportunities and performed. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way!

I wish Awoniyi luck and hope he gets another opportunity with the Super Eagles, but if I were to chose our forwards today, I would not chose him over Moffi and Sadiq who have earned their spot with their performances as Super Eagles.

I am even better than uncle EII who does not rate Awoniyi at all at all based on his list. :D Why are you not angry at him? Is it because he is do as I say not as I do? :rotf: :rotf: Let EII come and explain why he loves Awoniyi's performance so much, yet he did not include him on his list? :D :taunt:
Damunk wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:53 pm
1naija wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:00 pm Where were all these during the ANC now? He looks sharp on these goals. Granted some of those Germans play like hey yous ... :D

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Now you have learnt a vital lesson:
You don’t judge a player based on four games and “only” one goal.
Go and write it down and then sleep on it.
:taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:
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You this guy sef 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You might not follow club football but you are not following CE that closely either.
If you were, you’d know I am one of the loudest Sadiq Umar fans on the forum. Even when the mad crowd were calling for his blood during AFCON (imagine, after his very first game!), I kept up the hype.
They are still around, but have been temporarily silenced.

Before Moffi lost form, I was equally loud about him.
Dessers not so much, but even when he was playing second fiddle to Onuachu in their club, I was still more keen on him than Onuachu.

Bottom line is…keep up and stop making your argument based on false premises. :taunt:
1naija wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:27 pm Obviously, you haven't paid attention over the years or you would have known or seen that I don't follow club football. I am a Super Eagles fan, period! My assessment of his performance was based solely on his performance for the SE. And I have repeated that many many times. I know you want to blame me for everything under the sun, but I am not the reason he did not perform well for the SE when he had the opportunitIES. Besides, those goals were what got him the invitation to the SE and rightfully so. But when you get there, you have to perform to keep the spot. What you want to do instead is shove him in the team ahead of players like Sadiq, Dessers, and Moffi who took advantage of their opportunities and performed. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way!

I wish Awoniyi luck and hope he gets another opportunity with the Super Eagles, but if I were to chose our forwards today, I would not chose him over Moffi and Sadiq who have earned their spot with their performances as Super Eagles.

I am even better than uncle EII who does not rate Awoniyi at all at all based on his list. :D Why are you not angry at him? Is it because he is do as I say not as I do? :rotf: :rotf: Let EII come and explain why he loves Awoniyi's performance so much, yet he did not include him on his list? :D :taunt:
Damunk wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:53 pm
1naija wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:00 pm Where were all these during the ANC now? He looks sharp on these goals. Granted some of those Germans play like hey yous ... :D

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Now you have learnt a vital lesson:
You don’t judge a player based on four games and “only” one goal.
Go and write it down and then sleep on it.
:taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:
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What form did Moffi lose when he just scored 2 goals for the SE in a qualifier ?
Damunk wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:21 pm You this guy sef 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You might not follow club football but you are not following CE that closely either.
If you were, you’d know I am one of the loudest Sadiq Umar fans on the forum. Even when the mad crowd were calling for his blood during AFCON (imagine, after his very first game!), I kept up the hype.
They are still around, but have been temporarily silenced.

Before Moffi lost form, I was equally loud about him.
Dessers not so much, but even when he was playing second fiddle to Onuachu in their club, I was still more keen on him than Onuachu.

Bottom line is…keep up and stop making your argument based on false premises. :taunt:
1naija wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:27 pm Obviously, you haven't paid attention over the years or you would have known or seen that I don't follow club football. I am a Super Eagles fan, period! My assessment of his performance was based solely on his performance for the SE. And I have repeated that many many times. I know you want to blame me for everything under the sun, but I am not the reason he did not perform well for the SE when he had the opportunitIES. Besides, those goals were what got him the invitation to the SE and rightfully so. But when you get there, you have to perform to keep the spot. What you want to do instead is shove him in the team ahead of players like Sadiq, Dessers, and Moffi who took advantage of their opportunities and performed. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way!

I wish Awoniyi luck and hope he gets another opportunity with the Super Eagles, but if I were to chose our forwards today, I would not chose him over Moffi and Sadiq who have earned their spot with their performances as Super Eagles.

I am even better than uncle EII who does not rate Awoniyi at all at all based on his list. :D Why are you not angry at him? Is it because he is do as I say not as I do? :rotf: :rotf: Let EII come and explain why he loves Awoniyi's performance so much, yet he did not include him on his list? :D :taunt:
Damunk wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:53 pm
1naija wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:00 pm Where were all these during the ANC now? He looks sharp on these goals. Granted some of those Germans play like hey yous ... :D

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Now you have learnt a vital lesson:
You don’t judge a player based on four games and “only” one goal.
Go and write it down and then sleep on it.
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1naija wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:31 pm What form did Moffi lose when he just scored 2 goals for the SE in a qualifier
Unkulu, its true.
You don't follow club football.
After an initial explosive start in France in the 20/21 season, Moffi's flame dimmed last season.
His call-up to the Eagles was a surprise to many.

If you don't know, you don't know.
But I'm happy for him.
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Damunk wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:11 pm
1naija wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:31 pm What form did Moffi lose when he just scored 2 goals for the SE in a qualifier
Unkulu, its true.
You don't follow club football.
After an initial explosive start in France in the 20/21 season, Moffi's flame dimmed last season.
His call-up to the Eagles was a surprise to many.

If you don't know, you don't know.
But I'm happy for him.
Surprise? Let's not forget that Awoniyi's first ever call-up was to replace a then injured Moffi, that Rohr rated. He's one of the newer members to the squad, but definitely has a role to play in our long-term ambitions.
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Sunset wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:10 pm
Damunk wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:11 pm
1naija wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:31 pm What form did Moffi lose when he just scored 2 goals for the SE in a qualifier
Unkulu, its true.
You don't follow club football.
After an initial explosive start in France in the 20/21 season, Moffi's flame dimmed last season.
His call-up to the Eagles was a surprise to many.

If you don't know, you don't know.
But I'm happy for him.
Surprise? Let's not forget that Awoniyi's first ever call-up was to replace a then injured Moffi, that Rohr rated. He's one of the newer members to the squad, but definitely has a role to play in our long-term ambitions.
Are you saying Moffi was “up there” in the pecking order when he got the call?
He dropped down the list as the season went on.

Even you still said so early this month.
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