Re: Taiwo Awoniyi: Nottingham Forest sign Nigeria forward from Union Berlin for club-record fee
Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:22 pm
Congratulations to Taiwo. Goodluck to him.
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EmirEMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 1:59 am Forest wants Aribo too.
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Well….. it starting to look the annual Nigerian relegation battle in the may will be hosted by Forest.
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Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:32 pmDamunk
I think we underappreciate this guy. If you think of the AFCON, it is crazy to use his last games to ignore him at NT level. I think that he should be preferred over Moffi to start beside Osimhen. I may be in the minority here but I think we have not seen the last of Awoniyi at the SE level.
Onku, Awoniyi is way ahead of Moffi and Dressers in terms of quality and value to SE. He might not have had a stellar Afcon but I think we can agree that the team was woeful and created very few opportunities.1naija wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:32 am What's your basis for thinking he should be preferred over Moffi? I am not high on Moffi either (I prefer Dessers), but he took advantage of the opportunities he was given and scored 2 goals. Taiwo had more opportunities and couldn't seize them.
Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:32 pmDamunk
I think we underappreciate this guy. If you think of the AFCON, it is crazy to use his last games to ignore him at NT level. I think that he should be preferred over Moffi to start beside Osimhen. I may be in the minority here but I think we have not seen the last of Awoniyi at the SE level.
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:52 amOnku, Awoniyi is way ahead of Moffi and Dressers in terms of quality and value to SE. He might not have had a stellar Afcon but I think we can agree that the team was woeful and created very few opportunities.1naija wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:32 am What's your basis for thinking he should be preferred over Moffi? I am not high on Moffi either (I prefer Dessers), but he took advantage of the opportunities he was given and scored 2 goals. Taiwo had more opportunities and couldn't seize them.
Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:32 pmDamunk
I think we underappreciate this guy. If you think of the AFCON, it is crazy to use his last games to ignore him at NT level. I think that he should be preferred over Moffi to start beside Osimhen. I may be in the minority here but I think we have not seen the last of Awoniyi at the SE level.
Imho, Moffi is a lazy Brown Ideye while Dressers sti has a lot to show. I'm fir giving Dressers a chance nut Moffi no be am.
I agree with you.Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:32 pmDamunk
I think we underappreciate this guy. If you think of the AFCON, it is crazy to use his last games to ignore him at NT level. I think that he should be preferred over Moffi to start beside Osimhen. I may be in the minority here but I think we have not seen the last of Awoniyi at the SE level.
Damunk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:24 amI agree with you.Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:32 pmDamunk
I think we underappreciate this guy. If you think of the AFCON, it is crazy to use his last games to ignore him at NT level. I think that he should be preferred over Moffi to start beside Osimhen. I may be in the minority here but I think we have not seen the last of Awoniyi at the SE level.
The only person that consistently puts this guy down is 1Naira.
But we know 1Naira only has to see ‘Awo-‘ and he completely loses it.
I suspect he hasn’t read the name in full and believes he is Taiwo Awolowo.
1naija wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:42 am Thats becauss you are looking at the Awo in his name to rate him higher than his performance for the SE called for. His performance at Union Berlin earned him the invitation to the SE. Unfortunately for him it's performances for the SE that keeps players in the team. Just ask Sadiq
I wonder why you are not making the same argument for Onyekuru, Onuachu, Simi Nwankwo, and all the other players do well at their clubs but performed poorly for the SE. Let me guess...they don't have Awo in their names.
The last game Taiwo played for Nigeria was against Tunisia at the AFCON. Since then Nigeria has played 6 games withoit inviting him. I guess the coaches don't like players with Awo in their names either.
Damunk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:24 amI agree with you.Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:32 pmDamunk
I think we underappreciate this guy. If you think of the AFCON, it is crazy to use his last games to ignore him at NT level. I think that he should be preferred over Moffi to start beside Osimhen. I may be in the minority here but I think we have not seen the last of Awoniyi at the SE level.
The only person that consistently puts this guy down is 1Naira.
But we know 1Naira only has to see ‘Awo-‘ and he completely loses it.
I suspect he hasn’t read the name in full and believes he is Taiwo Awolowo.
1naija wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:42 am Thats becauss you are looking at the Awo in his name to rate him higher than his performance for the SE called for. His performance at Union Berlin earned him the invitation to the SE. Unfortunately for him it's performance for the SE that keeps players in the team. Just ask Sadiq
I wonder why you are not making the same argument for Onyekuru, Onuachu, Simi Nwankwo, and all the other players do well at their clubs but performed poorly for the SE. Let me guess...they don't have Awo in their names.
The last game Taiwo played for Nigeria was against Tunisia at the AFCON. Since then Nigeria has played 6 games withoit inviting him. I guess the coaches don't like players with Awo in their names either.
Damunk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:24 amI agree with you.Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:32 pm Damunk
I think we underappreciate this guy. If you think of the AFCON, it is crazy to use his last games to ignore him at NT level. I think that he should be preferred over Moffi to start beside Osimhen. I may be in the minority here but I think we have not seen the last of Awoniyi at the SE level.
The only person that consistently puts this guy down is 1Naira.
But we know 1Naira only has to see ‘Awo-‘ and he completely loses it.
I suspect he hasn’t read the name in full and believes he is Taiwo Awolowo.
Damunk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:05 am
Unkulu 1Naira.
Don’t be so touchy - you reveal yourself when everyone is laughing and you dey frown. Na joke we dey joke with you. It shouldnt be about their names, but about performance.
So taking a look at your comparisons….
Onuachu - 16 caps, 3 goals (Age 28)
Onyekuru - 15 caps, 1 goal (Age 25)
Nwankwor - 4 caps, 0 goals (Age 30)
Awoniyi - 4 caps, 1 goal (Age 24)
It seems you are a little biased. Writing off a young 24 yr old player on an upward trajectory after just 4 caps at just ONE 4-game tournament?
Why so quick?
Your opinion is just a minority report, which you are entitled to, but makes very little sense.
You don’t condemn a player with just 4 games under his belt, unless of course he was near hopeless.
A wo-rrying trend.1naija wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:42 am Thats becauss you are looking at the Awo in his name to rate him higher than his performance for the SE called for. His performance at Union Berlin earned him the invitation to the SE. Unfortunately for him it's performance for the SE that keeps players in the team. Just ask Sadiq
I wonder why you are not making the same argument for Onyekuru, Onuachu, Simi Nwankwo, and all the other players do well at their clubs but performed poorly for the SE. Let me guess...they don't have Awo in their names.
The last game Taiwo played for Nigeria was against Tunisia at the AFCON. Since then Nigeria has played 6 games withoit inviting him. I guess the coaches don't like players with Awo in their names either.
Damunk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:24 amI agree with you.Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:32 pm Damunk
I think we underappreciate this guy. If you think of the AFCON, it is crazy to use his last games to ignore him at NT level. I think that he should be preferred over Moffi to start beside Osimhen. I may be in the minority here but I think we have not seen the last of Awoniyi at the SE level.
The only person that consistently puts this guy down is 1Naira.
But we know 1Naira only has to see ‘Awo-‘ and he completely loses it.
I suspect he hasn’t read the name in full and believes he is Taiwo Awolowo.
1naija wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:20 pm Dude, what exactly am i biased about? The only thing that has written off Awoniyi so far is his performance for the SE when he had the chance. You blame it on whoever and whatever, but thats the simple fact. We all watched the games he played, and most people questioned his performance in those games. The threads are still here on the forum. The question again is, what did you see in those games that most people on the game thread didnt see and the coaches didn't see? And what did you see his performances that made you rate him over Moffi and Dessers who clearly performed better with the chance they had. Are you sure you are not the one that is biased?
I brought up Onyekuru and co because if it's club performance you are using to rate Awoniyi, those players often do well at their clubs also, but you are not clamoring for them to be brought back to the SE because of those stats you posted. The point is you should be consistent in assessing players. You can't use club performance to rate some players and use SE performance to rate others. That is bias!
If Awoniyi gets another opportunity, he is going to have to excel or someone else will get the spot, Simple. That's just the nature of the business. It's the National team. No player is entitled to a spot on it.
Damunk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:05 am
Unkulu 1Naira.
Don’t be so touchy - you reveal yourself when everyone is laughing and you dey frown. Na joke we dey joke with you. It shouldnt be about their names, but about performance.
So taking a look at your comparisons….
Onuachu - 16 caps, 3 goals (Age 28)
Onyekuru - 15 caps, 1 goal (Age 25)
Nwankwor - 4 caps, 0 goals (Age 30)
Awoniyi - 4 caps, 1 goal (Age 24)
It seems you are a little biased. Writing off a young 24 yr old player on an upward trajectory after just 4 caps at just ONE 4-game tournament?
Why so quick?
Your opinion is just a minority report, which you are entitled to, but makes very little sense.
You don’t condemn a player with just 4 games under his belt, unless of course he was near hopeless.
A wo-rrying trend.1naija wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:42 am Thats becauss you are looking at the Awo in his name to rate him higher than his performance for the SE called for. His performance at Union Berlin earned him the invitation to the SE. Unfortunately for him it's performance for the SE that keeps players in the team. Just ask Sadiq
I wonder why you are not making the same argument for Onyekuru, Onuachu, Simi Nwankwo, and all the other players do well at their clubs but performed poorly for the SE. Let me guess...they don't have Awo in their names.
The last game Taiwo played for Nigeria was against Tunisia at the AFCON. Since then Nigeria has played 6 games withoit inviting him. I guess the coaches don't like players with Awo in their names either.
Damunk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:24 amI agree with you.Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:32 pm Damunk
I think we underappreciate this guy. If you think of the AFCON, it is crazy to use his last games to ignore him at NT level. I think that he should be preferred over Moffi to start beside Osimhen. I may be in the minority here but I think we have not seen the last of Awoniyi at the SE level.
The only person that consistently puts this guy down is 1Naira.
But we know 1Naira only has to see ‘Awo-‘ and he completely loses it.
I suspect he hasn’t read the name in full and believes he is Taiwo Awolowo.
Enugu II wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:34 pm 1naija
But that is your opinion and others do not agree with it. Moffi, as far as i am concerned, has not impressed except for the 10-0 game when everyone performed well against an overmatched opponent. Moffi was a shock selection for many on this site to start alongside Osimhen. That is because he did not exactly impress prior to that selection by Peseiro.
As for Awoniyi, I strongly feel he is a better player based on what I have seen. That, of course, may not be shared by others. I certainly like his work rate and the regularity in which he places himself in critical spots.
I am convinced that we have not heard the last on Awoniyi as far as the Nigerian national team is concerned. Bet on that.
1naija wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:20 pm Dude, what exactly am i biased about? The only thing that has written off Awoniyi so far is his performance for the SE when he had the chance. You blame it on whoever and whatever, but thats the simple fact. We all watched the games he played, and most people questioned his performance in those games. The threads are still here on the forum. The question again is, what did you see in those games that most people on the game thread didnt see and the coaches didn't see? And what did you see his performances that made you rate him over Moffi and Dessers who clearly performed better with the chance they had. Are you sure you are not the one that is biased?
I brought up Onyekuru and co because if it's club performance you are using to rate Awoniyi, those players often do well at their clubs also, but you are not clamoring for them to be brought back to the SE because of those stats you posted. The point is you should be consistent in assessing players. You can't use club performance to rate some players and use SE performance to rate others. That is bias!
If Awoniyi gets another opportunity, he is going to have to excel or someone else will get the spot, Simple. That's just the nature of the business. It's the National team. No player is entitled to a spot on it.
Damunk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:05 am
Unkulu 1Naira.
Don’t be so touchy - you reveal yourself when everyone is laughing and you dey frown. Na joke we dey joke with you. It shouldnt be about their names, but about performance.
So taking a look at your comparisons….
Onuachu - 16 caps, 3 goals (Age 28)
Onyekuru - 15 caps, 1 goal (Age 25)
Nwankwor - 4 caps, 0 goals (Age 30)
Awoniyi - 4 caps, 1 goal (Age 24)
It seems you are a little biased. Writing off a young 24 yr old player on an upward trajectory after just 4 caps at just ONE 4-game tournament?
Why so quick?
Your opinion is just a minority report, which you are entitled to, but makes very little sense.
You don’t condemn a player with just 4 games under his belt, unless of course he was near hopeless.
A wo-rrying trend.1naija wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:42 am Thats becauss you are looking at the Awo in his name to rate him higher than his performance for the SE called for. His performance at Union Berlin earned him the invitation to the SE. Unfortunately for him it's performance for the SE that keeps players in the team. Just ask Sadiq
I wonder why you are not making the same argument for Onyekuru, Onuachu, Simi Nwankwo, and all the other players do well at their clubs but performed poorly for the SE. Let me guess...they don't have Awo in their names.
The last game Taiwo played for Nigeria was against Tunisia at the AFCON. Since then Nigeria has played 6 games withoit inviting him. I guess the coaches don't like players with Awo in their names either.
Damunk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:24 amI agree with you.Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:32 pm Damunk
I think we underappreciate this guy. If you think of the AFCON, it is crazy to use his last games to ignore him at NT level. I think that he should be preferred over Moffi to start beside Osimhen. I may be in the minority here but I think we have not seen the last of Awoniyi at the SE level.
The only person that consistently puts this guy down is 1Naira.
But we know 1Naira only has to see ‘Awo-‘ and he completely loses it.
I suspect he hasn’t read the name in full and believes he is Taiwo Awolowo.
1naija wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:32 am What's your basis for thinking he should be preferred over Moffi? I am not high on Moffi either (I prefer Dessers), but he took advantage of the opportunities he was given and scored 2 goals. Taiwo had more opportunities and couldn't seize them.
Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:32 pmDamunk
I think we underappreciate this guy. If you think of the AFCON, it is crazy to use his last games to ignore him at NT level. I think that he should be preferred over Moffi to start beside Osimhen. I may be in the minority here but I think we have not seen the last of Awoniyi at the SE level.
1naija wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:02 pm EII, and whose opinion are you stating if not yours? Who are the majority that disagree with me? You and Damunkey? My opinion seems to be consistent with the coaches opinions, which is why he has not been invited back to the team. You and Damunkey can make it about me all you want, but when a player goes from playing 80+ minutes to 60 minutes to being on the bench and then out of team, someone else besides me thought he was piss poor in the tournament. So i think it's your opinion that in the minority. Mind you we are talking about his performance for the SE.
Enugu II wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:34 pm 1naija
But that is your opinion and others do not agree with it. Moffi, as far as i am concerned, has not impressed except for the 10-0 game when everyone performed well against an overmatched opponent. Moffi was a shock selection for many on this site to start alongside Osimhen. That is because he did not exactly impress prior to that selection by Peseiro.
As for Awoniyi, I strongly feel he is a better player based on what I have seen. That, of course, may not be shared by others. I certainly like his work rate and the regularity in which he places himself in critical spots.
I am convinced that we have not heard the last on Awoniyi as far as the Nigerian national team is concerned. Bet on that.
1naija wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:20 pm Dude, what exactly am i biased about? The only thing that has written off Awoniyi so far is his performance for the SE when he had the chance. You blame it on whoever and whatever, but thats the simple fact. We all watched the games he played, and most people questioned his performance in those games. The threads are still here on the forum. The question again is, what did you see in those games that most people on the game thread didnt see and the coaches didn't see? And what did you see his performances that made you rate him over Moffi and Dessers who clearly performed better with the chance they had. Are you sure you are not the one that is biased?
I brought up Onyekuru and co because if it's club performance you are using to rate Awoniyi, those players often do well at their clubs also, but you are not clamoring for them to be brought back to the SE because of those stats you posted. The point is you should be consistent in assessing players. You can't use club performance to rate some players and use SE performance to rate others. That is bias!
If Awoniyi gets another opportunity, he is going to have to excel or someone else will get the spot, Simple. That's just the nature of the business. It's the National team. No player is entitled to a spot on it.
Damunk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:05 am
Unkulu 1Naira.
Don’t be so touchy - you reveal yourself when everyone is laughing and you dey frown. Na joke we dey joke with you. It shouldnt be about their names, but about performance.
So taking a look at your comparisons….
Onuachu - 16 caps, 3 goals (Age 28)
Onyekuru - 15 caps, 1 goal (Age 25)
Nwankwor - 4 caps, 0 goals (Age 30)
Awoniyi - 4 caps, 1 goal (Age 24)
It seems you are a little biased. Writing off a young 24 yr old player on an upward trajectory after just 4 caps at just ONE 4-game tournament?
Why so quick?
Your opinion is just a minority report, which you are entitled to, but makes very little sense.
You don’t condemn a player with just 4 games under his belt, unless of course he was near hopeless.
A wo-rrying trend.1naija wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:42 am Thats becauss you are looking at the Awo in his name to rate him higher than his performance for the SE called for. His performance at Union Berlin earned him the invitation to the SE. Unfortunately for him it's performance for the SE that keeps players in the team. Just ask Sadiq
I wonder why you are not making the same argument for Onyekuru, Onuachu, Simi Nwankwo, and all the other players do well at their clubs but performed poorly for the SE. Let me guess...they don't have Awo in their names.
The last game Taiwo played for Nigeria was against Tunisia at the AFCON. Since then Nigeria has played 6 games withoit inviting him. I guess the coaches don't like players with Awo in their names either.
Damunk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:24 amI agree with you.Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:32 pm Damunk
I think we underappreciate this guy. If you think of the AFCON, it is crazy to use his last games to ignore him at NT level. I think that he should be preferred over Moffi to start beside Osimhen. I may be in the minority here but I think we have not seen the last of Awoniyi at the SE level.
The only person that consistently puts this guy down is 1Naira.
But we know 1Naira only has to see ‘Awo-‘ and he completely loses it.
I suspect he hasn’t read the name in full and believes he is Taiwo Awolowo.