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Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:52 pm Nothing else to add. You can add you spill......

Dude is a very very LIMITED coach...
That's why he was coaching an average Univ of Pittsburgh team.

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:52 pm Nothing else to add. You can add you spill......

He's not a miracle worker. When a team is starving from lack of payments there're usually other essentials things they do not have.
I'm sure he'd gladly take his salary and leave. All of it!

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:58 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:52 pm Nothing else to add. You can add you spill......

He's not a miracle worker. When a team is starving from lack of payments there're usually other essentials things they do not have.
I'm sure he'd gladly take his salary and leave. All of it!

Emir,

No one is except the almighty.

However, were the Nigerian Managers of this team miracle workers when they won the WAFCON repeatedly and some times under worse conditions?

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:04 pm

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:58 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:52 pm Nothing else to add. You can add you spill......

He's not a miracle worker. When a team is starving from lack of payments there're usually other essentials things they do not have.
I'm sure he'd gladly take his salary and leave. All of it!

Emir,

No one is except the almighty.

However, were the Nigerian Managers of this team miracle workers when they won the WAFCON repeatedly and some times under worse conditions?

EII,

Seriously, are you really expecting an answer to your question? I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you


Cheers.

I have been watching Copa America Femenina, and the
Women’s Euro Championship. All I have to say is, we’ve got a lot of work to do. Regardless of who the coach is.

Thunder wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:18 pm I have been watching Copa America Femenina, and the
Women’s Euro Championship. All I have to say is, we’ve got a lot of work to do. Regardless of who the coach is.

Thunder,

FACT..... I pointed it out elsewhere that while the other continents have improved geometrically in women football, our improvement in the continent is arithmetically.... I loved the guts of our girls playing with 9 against a slow-thinking Moroccan team.... However, I recall our close game with a USA Team B a year or so ago. It was light years on the field and as clear and night in terms of decision making, quick thinking, and foot speed. It just was not good. I hope someone could go back and unearth that thread. That game was very revealing.

Thunder wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:18 pm I have been watching Copa America Femenina, and the
Women’s Euro Championship. All I have to say is, we’ve got a lot of work to do. Regardless of who the coach is.

The "work" starts with a COMPETENT coach...

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:58 pmHe's not a miracle worker. When a team is starving from lack of payments there're usually other essentials things they do not have.
I'm sure he'd gladly take his salary and leave. All of it!

Because these are new developments that did not happen under ICs?!
Under Florence Omagbemi, not only were players not paid but she was not paid for the entire year she coached team.

Even when Florence's father died while she was coaching the team, she still was not paid...
Meanwhile, when the players had to go on strike for the allowances after actually WINNING WAFCON, Florence was fired!

Even when the NFF "suspended" several key players for the France 2019 WC strike...
Resulting in an under-strength team drawing against CIV and missing the Olympics on away goal rules, CEs blamed the IC!

Yeye just dey smell up and down on CE!

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:28 pm

Thunder wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:18 pm I have been watching Copa America Femenina, and the
Women’s Euro Championship. All I have to say is, we’ve got a lot of work to do. Regardless of who the coach is.

Thunder,

FACT..... I pointed it out elsewhere that while the other continents have improved geometrically in women football, our improvement in the continent is arithmetically.... I loved the guts of our girls playing with 9 against a slow-thinking Moroccan team.... However, I recall our close game with a USA Team B a year or so ago. It was light years on the field and as clear and night in terms of decision making, quick thinking, and foot speed. It just was not good. I hope someone could go back and unearth that thread. That game was very revealing.

I doubt if we can match the rest of the world in terms of investment in women football. A way out, is to encourage our girls to come stateside to play college soccer. This route, has benefited Latin America’s women’s footy immensely.
Even Brazil, seeking to improve her women soccer, has hired the renown Swede, Pia Sundhage as the Head Coach.
We should be competing for the highest honors, and not be satisfied as mere qualifiers.

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:28 pmFACT..... I pointed it out elsewhere that while the other continents have improved geometrically in women football, our improvement in the continent is arithmetically.... I loved the guts of our girls playing with 9 against a slow-thinking Moroccan team.... However, I recall our close game with a USA Team B a year or so ago. It was light years on the field and as clear and night in terms of decision making, quick thinking, and foot speed. It just was not good. I hope someone could go back and unearth that thread. That game was very revealing.

The US is undoubtedly the world's preeminent female football power, but...

Exactly how was that "a USA Team B" when it featured 10 players who played in the 2019 WWC final game?
These were GK Neaher, O'Hara, Dahlkemper, Sauerbrunn, Dunn, Mewis, Rapinoe, Press, Lloyd, and Morgan.

Meanwhile, we barely had time to train together with entirely new players like Alozie, Okronkwo, Onumonu, etc.
Why don't you gather an assemblage of US players, some of whom never played together, to Uyo or Asaba to play us?!

Watch your tongue, Man!
How dare you diss my alma mater like that?

Gotti wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:56 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:52 pm Nothing else to add. You can add you spill......

Dude is a very very LIMITED coach...
That's why he was coaching an average Univ of Pittsburgh team.

Thunder wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:55 pmI doubt if we can match the rest of the world in terms of investment in women football. A way out, is to encourage our girls to come stateside to play college soccer. This route, has benefited Latin America’s women’s footy immensely.
Even Brazil, seeking to improve her women soccer, has hired the renown Swede, Pia Sundhage as the Head Coach.
We should be competing for the highest honors, and not be satisfied as mere qualifiers.

Nigeria cannot match the advanced nations in terms of investment in MALE football, much less female football in a highly-patriarchal society.

Meanwhile, you cannot "encourage" poor girls to come play soccer in the US, unless you would be handing out scholarships. And even then, if the choice is between going to Europe to play professionally and make immediate money for their families or going to the US to play amateur non-paying college soccer, there's no price for guessing where they overwhelming percentage of these girls would be headed. Not sure some of you CEs actually have any real appreciation of the background of some of our players.

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:28 pm

Thunder wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:18 pm I have been watching Copa America Femenina, and the
Women’s Euro Championship. All I have to say is, we’ve got a lot of work to do. Regardless of who the coach is.

Thunder,

FACT..... I pointed it out elsewhere that while the other continents have improved geometrically in women football, our improvement in the continent is arithmetically.... I loved the guts of our girls playing with 9 against a slow-thinking Moroccan team.... However, I recall our close game with a USA Team B a year or so ago. It was light years on the field and as clear and night in terms of decision making, quick thinking, and foot speed. It just was not good. I hope someone could go back and unearth that thread. That game was very revealing.

I doubt if we can match the rest of the world in terms of investment in women football. A way out, is to encourage our girls to come stateside to play college soccer. This route, has benefited Latin America’s women’s footy immensely.
Even Brazil, seeking to improve her women soccer, has hired the renown Swede, Pia Sundhage as the Head Coach.
We should be competing for the highest honors, and not be satisfied as mere qualifiers.

Otitokoro wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:10 am Watch your tongue, Man!
How dare you diss my alma mater like that?

Should have known...
Sans Dan Marino, a bunch of UNDERACHIEVERS!

Thunder wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:15 amI doubt if we can match the rest of the world in terms of investment in women football. A way out, is to encourage our girls to come stateside to play college soccer. This route, has benefited Latin America’s women’s footy immensely.
Even Brazil, seeking to improve her women soccer, has hired the renown Swede, Pia Sundhage as the Head Coach.
We should be competing for the highest honors, and not be satisfied as mere qualifiers.

Didn't we hire our own Swede?
Which coincided with our continental struggles. Hmmmm

Gotti wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:14 am

Thunder wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:55 pmI doubt if we can match the rest of the world in terms of investment in women football. A way out, is to encourage our girls to come stateside to play college soccer. This route, has benefited Latin America’s women’s footy immensely.
Even Brazil, seeking to improve her women soccer, has hired the renown Swede, Pia Sundhage as the Head Coach.
We should be competing for the highest honors, and not be satisfied as mere qualifiers.

Nigeria cannot match the advanced nations in terms of investment in MALE football, much less female football in a highly-patriarchal society.

Meanwhile, you cannot "encourage" poor girls to come play soccer in the US, unless you would be handing out scholarships. And even then, if the choice is between going to Europe to play professionally and make immediate money for their families or going to the US to play amateur non-paying college soccer, there's no price for guessing where they overwhelming percentage of these girls would be headed. Not sure some of you CEs actually have any real appreciation of the background of some of our players.

A lot of them are good enough to earn soccer scholarships to D1, D2, & D3 schools, refine their games, and get quality education as well.

All of you people who play football on paper you people are so clueless to the game. Leave the coach alone. We will fail woefully if una pursue this coach comot..


The issues with Nigerian football are the clueless loud mouthed fans

Have you paid the coach or the bonuses of the girls una dey talk coach..how many chances did madam Ortega and Monday miss today

Otitokoro wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:10 am Watch your tongue, Man!
How dare you diss my alma mater like that?

Gotti wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:56 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:52 pm Nothing else to add. You can add you spill......

Dude is a very very LIMITED coach...
That's why he was coaching an average Univ of Pittsburgh team.

Otitokoro,

Gotti wasn't referring to your school (The University of Pittsburgh) as being small, rather he meant your school's soccer team is 'small.' I don't see how such is an insult, or down-grading of your Alma mater, bro.

The guy really fall my hand
Anyhow, time for a new coach for the SF - rooting for Omagbemi (she deserves a shot at the WWC)

Gotti wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:16 am

Otitokoro wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:10 am Watch your tongue, Man!
How dare you diss my alma mater like that?

Should have known...
Sans Dan Marino, a bunch of UNDERACHIEVERS!

Coaching is most of it. He is not a good coach.

This championship outcome was once again the Nigerian philosophy of mediocre input and expecting a disproportionately excellent outcome.

While on one hand it is exceedingly frustrating experiencing once again these sort of failures, on the other hand the laws of natural justice means we deserve what we get.

I will never wish my nation I’ll, but it is not appropriate to expect miracles when we don’t do the hard graft of proper planning etc. it is virtually the Nigerian approach to expect miracles as if the opposition are lesser beings of the same creator.

In the past, sheer superior talent got us past the opposition. Now that there is a narrowing of the skill gap and once again the more ‘difficult’ but arguably more rewarding attributes of strategic planning, diligence etc everything that is anathema to the Nigerian psychology and way of doing things is required, are folks surprised that we fall by the way side.

It has been almost 30 years since Nigerian debuted at the WC at the mens level more 2 decades for females. Almost 4 decades since our first world youth championship win, where is the strategic plan for our local league, coaching, school sports etc.

Anyway terrible question to ask, sports can not excel outside the whole of the Nigerian context. We will achieve sporadic degrees of success but we will never be consistent enough until we get the basics right as a people - the whole football frustration is only a symptom of a much deeper malaise.

For the resources we have as a people, we are terrible underachievers, it will be so amusing if it was not ever so tragic.

Have a great collection of players, contrive to appoint a rubbish coach. Have a great collection of players, consistently have grifters in positions of leadership. A true microcosm of the Nigerian entity.

We have been gifted everything a nation and a people require to be excellent and successful yet are a true case study in how to do things the wrong way.

It is just so %$#@^& depressing!