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Algeria v Nigeria: Peseiro reveals the truth behind Ndidi leaving Super Eagles camp
https://sportsration.com/algeria-v-nige ... gles-camp/
Photo of Tope Adefala Tope Adefala31 mins ago0 1 1 minute read

Super Eagles head coach, Jose Peseiro, has revealed the truth behind the departure of Wilfred Ndidi from the camp, as the team prepares to face Algeria.

Nigeria and Algeria will play two friendlies, the first tomorrow against the Algeria CHAN team, at the Mohamed Maloiul Stadium, Constantine.

While the second friendly against the Algeria main team will be played at the Miloud Hadefi Stadium, Oran next week Tuesday.

All the invited players are in camp, except for Emmanuel Dennis who didn’t even show up because of injury, and Wilfred Ndidi who has left for Leicester City today.

It was reported that the combative midfielder picked up an injury, but other reports suggested he left the camp because of a disagreement between him and coach Peseiro.

Wilfred Ndidi in a bit to clear himself got into it with a US-based Nigerian journo, Suleiman Folarin, who claimed that he left the camp in disagreement with the coach.

The journalist claimed that Wilfred Ndidi was told by coach Jose Peseiro that he would play as a defender instead of his traditional midfield position.


And that Wilfred Ndidi left the camp because of the disagreement in views, but Wilfred Ndidi refuted the claims, saying the journalist should have asked questions to confirm the authenticity of his statement.

Jose Peseiro, the other person, involved in the issue has spoken about it, dismissing the disagreement claims.

“Ndidi, Okay when he come, I give one relationship with all the staff and our players.

“The fitness coach from Leicester City sent a message to our fitness coach, we have that connection with them, that he complained in the last match.

“He come, he did training without pain, they won’t train a small train, and with the conditions, but he feels something in the hamstring and needed one MRI yesterday.

“I think it is better don’t use them, okay, it’s possible he’s not done yet, but I don’t go to use one player in front of the match if he can get more insurance, for that he come back to Leicester City today for cover faster.”

HERE IS MY SUMMATION:

1. The tweet by Folarin and Ndidi's subsequent report of an injury are not mutually exclusive i.e. it is still possible that Ndidi was upset about a request (If such a request exists) to platy centerback. It is also possible that he got injured afterwards and left. Why cannot the two co-exist?
2. The real story on Aribo's absence is still under wraps but for how long?
3. Dennis reportedly rejected call up as a replacement, citing injury.
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“Ndidi, Okay when he come, I give one relationship with all the staff and our players.

“The fitness coach from Leicester City sent a message to our fitness coach, we have that connection with them, that he complained in the last match.

“He come, he did training without pain, they won’t train a small train, and with the conditions, but he feels something in the hamstring and needed one MRI yesterday.


What kind of jargon is this?
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Leaving camp because he was asked to play CD is way out of character for Ndidi. He has never conducted himself in such manner in his professional career and deserves to be given the benefit of the doubt over a useless,click bait dealing Folarin.
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Everything about this team has just been shady, someday the truth will come out but it appears certain players are getting tired of playing for Nigeria under this current NFF administration...the baffling decision to invite Yusuf (an invitation his club even confirmed) only to rescind the invitation just sounds very weird...then the Balogun situation where a whole FA boldly lied that he was injured and withdrawn from the initial list, only for the same "injured" Balogun to go on and play a full 90 minutes the same day for his club, even earning high praises from the coach...then the Aribo situation (a silly excuse for his exclusion was hastily given), and now Ndidi.
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Tobi17 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:18 pm Everything about this team has just been shady, someday the truth will come out but it appears certain players are getting tired of playing for Nigeria under this current NFF administration...the baffling decision to invite Yusuf (an invitation his club even confirmed) only to rescind the invitation just sounds very weird...then the Balogun situation where a whole FA boldly lied that he was injured and withdrawn from the initial list, only for the same "injured" Balogun to go on and play a full 90 minutes the same day for his club, even earning high praises from the coach...then the Aribo situation (a silly excuse for his exclusion was hastily given), and now Ndidi.
And I thought this kind of stuff doesn’t happen under an FC? I don’t know when y’all will get it through your head that Naija ain’t going anywhere until we start running our footie professionally. NFF is the biggest issue we have…
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maceo4 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:01 pm
Tobi17 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:18 pm Everything about this team has just been shady, someday the truth will come out but it appears certain players are getting tired of playing for Nigeria under this current NFF administration...the baffling decision to invite Yusuf (an invitation his club even confirmed) only to rescind the invitation just sounds very weird...then the Balogun situation where a whole FA boldly lied that he was injured and withdrawn from the initial list, only for the same "injured" Balogun to go on and play a full 90 minutes the same day for his club, even earning high praises from the coach...then the Aribo situation (a silly excuse for his exclusion was hastily given), and now Ndidi.
And I thought this kind of stuff doesn’t happen under an FC? I don’t know when y’all will get it through your head that Naija ain’t going anywhere until we start running our footie professionally. NFF is the biggest issue we have
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If there is any truth to this in essence we called up

3 midfielders and

7 centrebacks

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If there is any truth to this in essence we called up

3 midfielders and

7 centrebacks SEVEN

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@EII,

For your own sanity, let the Aribo issue go. I can categorically tell you there's NOTHING there. He was rested. QED

This Ndidi story is another matter. I have been speaking with Sulaiman all day essentially and he is adamant that his source is rock solid and he was only doing his job as a journalist to report on what he was told. I told him I disagreed with him because the rumor was too ridiculous to make any sense. But again, you just never know.

Dennis and Balogun have to be looked at. There is something there....injury was an easy excuse for Balogun but keep in mind Valentine had his invitation BEFORE he was called up as a replacement. Dennis injury new came out AFTER rumblings of his rejection went public.....

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Ugbowo wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:59 pm @EII,

For your own sanity, let the Aribo issue go. I can categorically tell you there's NOTHING there. He was rested. QED

This Ndidi story is another matter. I have been speaking with Sulaiman all day essentially and he is adamant that his source is rock solid and he was only doing his job as a journalist to report on what he was told. I told him I disagreed with him because the rumor was too ridiculous to make any sense. But again, you just never know.

Dennis and Balogun have to be looked at. There is something there....injury was an easy excuse for Balogun but keep in mind Valentine had his invitation BEFORE he was called up as a replacement. Dennis injury new came out AFTER rumblings of his rejection went public.....

We siddonlook as usual.
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Remember when Samuel Kalu asked for time off? Well. It later emerged that he was not entirely happy with how he was used under Gernot Rohr. These things are not unusual. No footballer worth his salt loves sitting on the bench. The future will determine the truth.
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Slavery has made some to believe that only foreign coaches are the solution to our problems. It has never been about coaching but depraved NFF and supporters here like Van City.
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Enugu II wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:53 pm
Algeria v Nigeria: Peseiro reveals the truth behind Ndidi leaving Super Eagles camp
https://sportsration.com/algeria-v-nige ... gles-camp/
Photo of Tope Adefala Tope Adefala31 mins ago0 1 1 minute read

Super Eagles head coach, Jose Peseiro, has revealed the truth behind the departure of Wilfred Ndidi from the camp, as the team prepares to face Algeria.

Nigeria and Algeria will play two friendlies, the first tomorrow against the Algeria CHAN team, at the Mohamed Maloiul Stadium, Constantine.

While the second friendly against the Algeria main team will be played at the Miloud Hadefi Stadium, Oran next week Tuesday.

All the invited players are in camp, except for Emmanuel Dennis who didn’t even show up because of injury, and Wilfred Ndidi who has left for Leicester City today.

It was reported that the combative midfielder picked up an injury, but other reports suggested he left the camp because of a disagreement between him and coach Peseiro.

Wilfred Ndidi in a bit to clear himself got into it with a US-based Nigerian journo, Suleiman Folarin, who claimed that he left the camp in disagreement with the coach.

The journalist claimed that Wilfred Ndidi was told by coach Jose Peseiro that he would play as a defender instead of his traditional midfield position.


And that Wilfred Ndidi left the camp because of the disagreement in views, but Wilfred Ndidi refuted the claims, saying the journalist should have asked questions to confirm the authenticity of his statement.

Jose Peseiro, the other person, involved in the issue has spoken about it, dismissing the disagreement claims.

“Ndidi, Okay when he come, I give one relationship with all the staff and our players.

“The fitness coach from Leicester City sent a message to our fitness coach, we have that connection with them, that he complained in the last match.

“He come, he did training without pain, they won’t train a small train, and with the conditions, but he feels something in the hamstring and needed one MRI yesterday.

“I think it is better don’t use them, okay, it’s possible he’s not done yet, but I don’t go to use one player in front of the match if he can get more insurance, for that he come back to Leicester City today for cover faster.”

HERE IS MY SUMMATION:

1. The tweet by Folarin and Ndidi's subsequent report of an injury are not mutually exclusive i.e. it is still possible that Ndidi was upset about a request (If such a request exists) to platy centerback. It is also possible that he got injured afterwards and left. Why cannot the two co-exist?
2. The real story on Aribo's absence is still under wraps but for how long?
3. Dennis reportedly rejected call up as a replacement, citing injury.
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highbury wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:57 am Slavery has made some to believe that only foreign coaches are the solution to our problems. It has never been about coaching but depraved NFF and supporters here like Van City.
Slavery has had many dubious effects on the black man’s mind.
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Damunk wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:50 am
highbury wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:57 am Slavery has made some to believe that only foreign coaches are the solution to our problems. It has never been about coaching but depraved NFF and supporters here like Van City.
Slavery has had many dubious effects on the black man’s mind.
Many.
I honestly don't think any Nigerian believes that. What most believe is that it is the best way to go considering our currect situation. The NFF as it is currently structured will never create a conducive enviroment for a local coach to succeed. They (NFF) have a bit more reverence & respect for foreigners which is the major problem.
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Very soon the NFF will kill the national team the same way they have killed local football (league).

Review: Nigeria can’t qualify for Chan, poor international club performances, national team had its worst Afcon performance since 1982, can’t qualify for World Cup, can’t qualify for Olympics, a few years ago two club sides won with a score line of 79-0 & 65-0. None of our refs are used for international matches or competitions……
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maceo4 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:01 pm
Tobi17 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:18 pm Everything about this team has just been shady, someday the truth will come out but it appears certain players are getting tired of playing for Nigeria under this current NFF administration...the baffling decision to invite Yusuf (an invitation his club even confirmed) only to rescind the invitation just sounds very weird...then the Balogun situation where a whole FA boldly lied that he was injured and withdrawn from the initial list, only for the same "injured" Balogun to go on and play a full 90 minutes the same day for his club, even earning high praises from the coach...then the Aribo situation (a silly excuse for his exclusion was hastily given), and now Ndidi.
And I thought this kind of stuff doesn’t happen under an FC? I don’t know when y’all will get it through your head that Naija ain’t going anywhere until we start running our footie professionally. NFF is the biggest issue we have…
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Adisboy wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:54 am
Damunk wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:50 am
highbury wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:57 am Slavery has made some to believe that only foreign coaches are the solution to our problems. It has never been about coaching but depraved NFF and supporters here like Van City.
Slavery has had many dubious effects on the black man’s mind.
Many.
I honestly don't think any Nigerian believes that. What most believe is that it is the best way to go considering our currect situation. The NFF as it is currently structured will never create a conducive enviroment for a local coach to succeed. They (NFF) have a bit more reverence & respect for foreigners which is the major problem.
I totally agree with you. :thumb:
So my comment was to suggest that this 'slavery' thing isn't uni-directional.

Some people believe that the best way of upholding their racial pride is by rubbishing anything to do with 'the' white man and pointing accusing fingers of 'WOWOrity' at any black man that makes a judgement call in the oyibo's favour.
That in itself is one of the many sad effects of slavery that I refer to.

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Adisboy wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:54 am
Damunk wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:50 am
highbury wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:57 am Slavery has made some to believe that only foreign coaches are the solution to our problems. It has never been about coaching but depraved NFF and supporters here like Van City.
Slavery has had many dubious effects on the black man’s mind.
Many.
I honestly don't think any Nigerian believes that. What most believe is that it is the best way to go considering our currect situation. The NFF as it is currently structured will never create a conducive enviroment for a local coach to succeed. They (NFF) have a bit more reverence & respect for foreigners which is the major problem.
Adisboy

While I agree that a local coach will have more difficulty, it is not impossible. Success is predicated more on the personality of the manager. Keshi succeeded because he was willing to battle the NFF. Mind you, some foreign managers did not battle as much and failed. Thus, it is not impossible for a local manager to succeed.
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Who ever wrote this article is an illiterate who needs to give up journalism. You do not quote when your source is struggling with the language, you paraphrase instead. Imagine reading an article and being forced to decipher what the hell you are reading. Dun.ce!
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Enugu II wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:54 pm
Adisboy wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:54 am
Damunk wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:50 am
highbury wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:57 am Slavery has made some to believe that only foreign coaches are the solution to our problems. It has never been about coaching but depraved NFF and supporters here like Van City.
Slavery has had many dubious effects on the black man’s mind.
Many.
I honestly don't think any Nigerian believes that. What most believe is that it is the best way to go considering our currect situation. The NFF as it is currently structured will never create a conducive enviroment for a local coach to succeed. They (NFF) have a bit more reverence & respect for foreigners which is the major problem.
Adisboy

While I agree that a local coach will have more difficulty, it is not impossible. Success is predicated more on the personality of the manager. Keshi succeeded because he was willing to battle the NFF. Mind you, some foreign managers did not battle as much and failed. Thus, it is not impossible for a local manager to succeed.
Remember, the NFF had no incling that the 2013 team would be able to clinch the AFCON. They had prepared his sack letter for after the quarterfinals. Then after that they went ahead and dismantled his coaching team. Sylvanus Okpala, who was very essential to that set up was inexplicably removed. Then they constantly made things harder e.g. no more long camping for homebased players, etc, until he failed to qualify for 2015, then they pounced. Foreign coaches are allowed to come with their assistants but the local ones don't have that privilage. Also local coaches are less likely to take the NFF to FIFA for fear of being lablelled "unpatriotic". Until we have a more professional and less political mindset in the NFF, local coaches will find it difficult to thrive with the Super Eagles, or even the Super Falcons.
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mcal wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:33 pm
maceo4 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:01 pm
Tobi17 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:18 pm Everything about this team has just been shady, someday the truth will come out but it appears certain players are getting tired of playing for Nigeria under this current NFF administration...the baffling decision to invite Yusuf (an invitation his club even confirmed) only to rescind the invitation just sounds very weird...then the Balogun situation where a whole FA boldly lied that he was injured and withdrawn from the initial list, only for the same "injured" Balogun to go on and play a full 90 minutes the same day for his club, even earning high praises from the coach...then the Aribo situation (a silly excuse for his exclusion was hastily given), and now Ndidi.
And I thought this kind of stuff doesn’t happen under an FC? I don’t know when y’all will get it through your head that Naija ain’t going anywhere until we start running our footie professionally. NFF is the biggest issue we have
...no be today.
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Dammy wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:43 am
Enugu II wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:53 pm
Algeria v Nigeria: Peseiro reveals the truth behind Ndidi leaving Super Eagles camp
https://sportsration.com/algeria-v-nige ... gles-camp/
Photo of Tope Adefala Tope Adefala31 mins ago0 1 1 minute read

Super Eagles head coach, Jose Peseiro, has revealed the truth behind the departure of Wilfred Ndidi from the camp, as the team prepares to face Algeria.

Nigeria and Algeria will play two friendlies, the first tomorrow against the Algeria CHAN team, at the Mohamed Maloiul Stadium, Constantine.

While the second friendly against the Algeria main team will be played at the Miloud Hadefi Stadium, Oran next week Tuesday.

All the invited players are in camp, except for Emmanuel Dennis who didn’t even show up because of injury, and Wilfred Ndidi who has left for Leicester City today.

It was reported that the combative midfielder picked up an injury, but other reports suggested he left the camp because of a disagreement between him and coach Peseiro.

Wilfred Ndidi in a bit to clear himself got into it with a US-based Nigerian journo, Suleiman Folarin, who claimed that he left the camp in disagreement with the coach.

The journalist claimed that Wilfred Ndidi was told by coach Jose Peseiro that he would play as a defender instead of his traditional midfield position.


And that Wilfred Ndidi left the camp because of the disagreement in views, but Wilfred Ndidi refuted the claims, saying the journalist should have asked questions to confirm the authenticity of his statement.

Jose Peseiro, the other person, involved in the issue has spoken about it, dismissing the disagreement claims.

“Ndidi, Okay when he come, I give one relationship with all the staff and our players.

“The fitness coach from Leicester City sent a message to our fitness coach, we have that connection with them, that he complained in the last match.

“He come, he did training without pain, they won’t train a small train, and with the conditions, but he feels something in the hamstring and needed one MRI yesterday.

“I think it is better don’t use them, okay, it’s possible he’s not done yet, but I don’t go to use one player in front of the match if he can get more insurance, for that he come back to Leicester City today for cover faster.”

HERE IS MY SUMMATION:

1. The tweet by Folarin and Ndidi's subsequent report of an injury are not mutually exclusive i.e. it is still possible that Ndidi was upset about a request (If such a request exists) to platy centerback. It is also possible that he got injured afterwards and left. Why cannot the two co-exist?
2. The real story on Aribo's absence is still under wraps but for how long?
3. Dennis reportedly rejected call up as a replacement, citing injury.
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Adisboy wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:54 am
Damunk wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:50 am
highbury wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:57 am Slavery has made some to believe that only foreign coaches are the solution to our problems. It has never been about coaching but depraved NFF and supporters here like Van City.
Slavery has had many dubious effects on the black man’s mind.
Many.
I honestly don't think any Nigerian believes that. What most believe is that it is the best way to go considering our currect situation. The NFF as it is currently structured will never create a conducive enviroment for a local coach to succeed. They (NFF) have a bit more reverence & respect for foreigners which is the major problem.
Well said :clap: :clap: :clap:.

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