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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:39 am https://www.owngoalnigeria.com/2023/01/ ... x-packing/


Is this true?

10 uninvited Euro based players decided to show up to the U20 camp to fight for a spot on the team. They were supposedly not invited, not on the list released to the public. They just decided to buy a plane ticket, leave their clubs etc, and go to Nigeria to see if they can get on the team.

So what does Bo$$o do?

He sends 6 away and will allow 4 of them to fight for a shirt. What is this? On what basis did he admit the 4 players to camp? Why did they merit a chance on arrival? See, this is why I refuse to support any local coach for SE. Imho, this is corrupt,unprofessional, lacks discipline , careless, and shows once again that we’re not a serious country. If true.

Damunk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:31 am

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:39 am https://www.owngoalnigeria.com/2023/01/ ... x-packing/


Is this true?

10 uninvited Euro based players decided to show up to the U20 camp to fight for a spot on the team. They were supposedly not invited, not on the list released to the public. They just decided to buy a plane ticket, leave their clubs etc, and go to Nigeria to see if they can get on the team.

So what does Bo$$o do?

He sends 6 away and will allow 4 of them to fight for a shirt. What is this? On what basis did he admit the 4 players to camp? Why did they merit a chance on arrival? See, this is why I refuse to support any local coach for SE. Imho, this is corrupt,unprofessional, lacks discipline , careless, and shows once again that we’re not a serious country. If true.

I agree, e get as e be, but I’d prefer to believe he was being charitable by even allowing them to train - albeit away from the invited squad.
So he has sent six away and kept four to fight for a place with the main squad.
But it’s interesting that OwnGoal didn’t bother to name any of them.

As usual one has to take the story with a pinch of salt, abeg.

Damunk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:31 am

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:39 am https://www.owngoalnigeria.com/2023/01/ ... x-packing/


Is this true?

10 uninvited Euro based players decided to show up to the U20 camp to fight for a spot on the team. They were supposedly not invited, not on the list released to the public. They just decided to buy a plane ticket, leave their clubs etc, and go to Nigeria to see if they can get on the team.

So what does Bo$$o do?

He sends 6 away and will allow 4 of them to fight for a shirt. What is this? On what basis did he admit the 4 players to camp? Why did they merit a chance on arrival? See, this is why I refuse to support any local coach for SE. Imho, this is corrupt,unprofessional, lacks discipline , careless, and shows once again that we’re not a serious country. If true.

I agree, e get as e be, but I’d prefer to believe he was being charitable by even allowing them to train - albeit away from the invited squad.
So he has sent six away and kept four to fight for a place with the main squad.
But it’s interesting that OwnGoal didn’t bother to name any of them.

As usual one has to take the story with a pinch of salt, abeg.

txj wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:59 am

Damunk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:31 am

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:39 am https://www.owngoalnigeria.com/2023/01/ ... x-packing/


Is this true?

10 uninvited Euro based players decided to show up to the U20 camp to fight for a spot on the team. They were supposedly not invited, not on the list released to the public. They just decided to buy a plane ticket, leave their clubs etc, and go to Nigeria to see if they can get on the team.

So what does Bo$$o do?

He sends 6 away and will allow 4 of them to fight for a shirt. What is this? On what basis did he admit the 4 players to camp? Why did they merit a chance on arrival? See, this is why I refuse to support any local coach for SE. Imho, this is corrupt,unprofessional, lacks discipline , careless, and shows once again that we’re not a serious country. If true.

I agree, e get as e be, but I’d prefer to believe he was being charitable by even allowing them to train - albeit away from the invited squad.
So he has sent six away and kept four to fight for a place with the main squad.
But it’s interesting that OwnGoal didn’t bother to name any of them.

As usual one has to take the story with a pinch of salt, abeg.

You think those players simply showed up uninvited from Europe?

The only way that happens is that they are clueless.

Assuming the story is true...

txj wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:58 am

Damunk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:31 am

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:39 am https://www.owngoalnigeria.com/2023/01/ ... x-packing/


Is this true?

10 uninvited Euro based players decided to show up to the U20 camp to fight for a spot on the team. They were supposedly not invited, not on the list released to the public. They just decided to buy a plane ticket, leave their clubs etc, and go to Nigeria to see if they can get on the team.

So what does Bo$$o do?

He sends 6 away and will allow 4 of them to fight for a shirt. What is this? On what basis did he admit the 4 players to camp? Why did they merit a chance on arrival? See, this is why I refuse to support any local coach for SE. Imho, this is corrupt,unprofessional, lacks discipline , careless, and shows once again that we’re not a serious country. If true.

I agree, e get as e be, but I’d prefer to believe he was being charitable by even allowing them to train - albeit away from the invited squad.
So he has sent six away and kept four to fight for a place with the main squad.
But it’s interesting that OwnGoal didn’t bother to name any of them.

As usual one has to take the story with a pinch of salt, abeg.

You are a miracle!

You think those players simply showed up uninvited from Europe?

The only way that happens is that they are clueless.

Damunk wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:28 am

txj wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:59 am

Damunk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:31 am

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:39 am https://www.owngoalnigeria.com/2023/01/ ... x-packing/


Is this true?

10 uninvited Euro based players decided to show up to the U20 camp to fight for a spot on the team. They were supposedly not invited, not on the list released to the public. They just decided to buy a plane ticket, leave their clubs etc, and go to Nigeria to see if they can get on the team.

So what does Bo$$o do?

He sends 6 away and will allow 4 of them to fight for a shirt. What is this? On what basis did he admit the 4 players to camp? Why did they merit a chance on arrival? See, this is why I refuse to support any local coach for SE. Imho, this is corrupt,unprofessional, lacks discipline , careless, and shows once again that we’re not a serious country. If true.

I agree, e get as e be, but I’d prefer to believe he was being charitable by even allowing them to train - albeit away from the invited squad.
So he has sent six away and kept four to fight for a place with the main squad.
But it’s interesting that OwnGoal didn’t bother to name any of them.

As usual one has to take the story with a pinch of salt, abeg.

You think those players simply showed up uninvited from Europe?

The only way that happens is that they are clueless.

Assuming the story is true...

Like I said, the story get as e be, and moreover, it’s OwnGoal.
The same guys reporting just yesterday about Crystal Palace’s Adebola Ola-Adebomi being expected, amongst others. No mention of their ten foreign ‘invaders’.
Then their partners-in-crime, Allnigeriasoccer are reporting the arrival of two Norwich City players, Aziaya (a GK) and Coker.

Personally, I have always been against the invitation of foreign-based players for the youth teams.
Winning developmental youth tournaments is just a means to an end.
So what’s the point?

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:01 am

Damunk wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:28 am

txj wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:59 am

Damunk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:31 am

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:39 am https://www.owngoalnigeria.com/2023/01/ ... x-packing/


Is this true?

10 uninvited Euro based players decided to show up to the U20 camp to fight for a spot on the team. They were supposedly not invited, not on the list released to the public. They just decided to buy a plane ticket, leave their clubs etc, and go to Nigeria to see if they can get on the team.

So what does Bo$$o do?

He sends 6 away and will allow 4 of them to fight for a shirt. What is this? On what basis did he admit the 4 players to camp? Why did they merit a chance on arrival? See, this is why I refuse to support any local coach for SE. Imho, this is corrupt,unprofessional, lacks discipline , careless, and shows once again that we’re not a serious country. If true.

I agree, e get as e be, but I’d prefer to believe he was being charitable by even allowing them to train - albeit away from the invited squad.
So he has sent six away and kept four to fight for a place with the main squad.
But it’s interesting that OwnGoal didn’t bother to name any of them.

As usual one has to take the story with a pinch of salt, abeg.

You think those players simply showed up uninvited from Europe?

The only way that happens is that they are clueless.

Assuming the story is true...

Like I said, the story get as e be, and moreover, it’s OwnGoal.
The same guys reporting just yesterday about Crystal Palace’s Adebola Ola-Adebomi being expected, amongst others. No mention of their ten foreign ‘invaders’.
Then their partners-in-crime, Allnigeriasoccer are reporting the arrival of two Norwich City players, Aziaya (a GK) and Coker.

Personally, I have always been against the invitation of foreign-based players for the youth teams.
Winning developmental youth tournaments is just a means to an end.
So what’s the point?

Its a better way to integrate them into the system rather than throwing them in the main SE simply hoping they stick.

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:26 am

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:01 am

Damunk wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:28 am Like I said, the story get as e be, and moreover, it’s OwnGoal.
The same guys reporting just yesterday about Crystal Palace’s Adebola Ola-Adebomi being expected, amongst others. No mention of their ten foreign ‘invaders’.
Then their partners-in-crime, Allnigeriasoccer are reporting the arrival of two Norwich City players, Aziaya (a GK) and Coker.

Personally, I have always been against the invitation of foreign-based players for the youth teams.
Winning developmental youth tournaments is just a means to an end.
So what’s the point?

Its a better way to integrate them into the system rather than throwing them in the main SE simply hoping they stick.

I don’t see the point of foreign based players in any of our youth teams. If these boys were actually good enough they’d be called into the England u20 team. So far none have shown they’re potential SE players. We make them earn it.

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:26 am

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:01 am

Damunk wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:28 am

txj wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:59 am

Damunk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:31 am

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:39 am https://www.owngoalnigeria.com/2023/01/ ... x-packing/


Is this true?

10 uninvited Euro based players decided to show up to the U20 camp to fight for a spot on the team. They were supposedly not invited, not on the list released to the public. They just decided to buy a plane ticket, leave their clubs etc, and go to Nigeria to see if they can get on the team.

So what does Bo$$o do?

He sends 6 away and will allow 4 of them to fight for a shirt. What is this? On what basis did he admit the 4 players to camp? Why did they merit a chance on arrival? See, this is why I refuse to support any local coach for SE. Imho, this is corrupt,unprofessional, lacks discipline , careless, and shows once again that we’re not a serious country. If true.

I agree, e get as e be, but I’d prefer to believe he was being charitable by even allowing them to train - albeit away from the invited squad.
So he has sent six away and kept four to fight for a place with the main squad.
But it’s interesting that OwnGoal didn’t bother to name any of them.

As usual one has to take the story with a pinch of salt, abeg.

You think those players simply showed up uninvited from Europe?

The only way that happens is that they are clueless.

Assuming the story is true...

Like I said, the story get as e be, and moreover, it’s OwnGoal.
The same guys reporting just yesterday about Crystal Palace’s Adebola Ola-Adebomi being expected, amongst others. No mention of their ten foreign ‘invaders’.
Then their partners-in-crime, Allnigeriasoccer are reporting the arrival of two Norwich City players, Aziaya (a GK) and Coker.

Personally, I have always been against the invitation of foreign-based players for the youth teams.
Winning developmental youth tournaments is just a means to an end.
So what’s the point?

Its a better way to integrate them into the system rather than throwing them in the main SE simply hoping they stick.

I don’t see the point of foreign based players in any of our youth teams. If these boys were actually good enough they’d be called into the England u20 team. So far none have shown they’re potential SE players. We make them earn it.

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:56 pm It seems like you're getting foreign-based mixed up with foreign-born here. The coach has made it clear that all they need to prove is they're better than their competitors to make the squad. This idea you guys are proposing is discrimination if we're being honest and shouldn't be entertained.

Ebuehi didn't play for a single youth NT in Holland but when he switched to us there was immediate uproar

Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:22 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:56 pm It seems like you're getting foreign-based mixed up with foreign-born here. The coach has made it clear that all they need to prove is they're better than their competitors to make the squad. This idea you guys are proposing is discrimination if we're being honest and shouldn't be entertained.

Ebuehi didn't play for a single youth NT in Holland but when he switched to us there was immediate uproar

I get your sentiment but there’s a difference and ‘discrimination’ is a strong word inappropriately applied in my opinion.

The primary goal of the Super Eagles is to win trophies.
The primary goal of every youth team is to develop and expose talent for the ultimate benefit of the SE. If they win tournaments along the way, that is simply icing on the cake.

Foreign-based and foreign-born youth players are most likely benefitting from expertise and facilities most of our kids can only dream of. You’ve read the personal stories of Awoniyi, Nwakali, Ighalo, Alampasu, Osimhen and countless others, many heartbreaking. And those are the ones that made it.

So these kind of kids losing out to Nigerian kids around the world many of whom can even afford to buy their own flight tickets into Nigeria for a development and exposure opportunity sounds like discrimination AGAINST the local kids to me.

It might sound like double standards but the Super Eagles is the ultimate destination of every young Nigerian player and they (the SE) are expected to win laurels for the nation.
So scouring the globe for every eligible SE player to achieve that goal is totally in order.

Just my opinion.

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:00 pm

Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:22 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:56 pm It seems like you're getting foreign-based mixed up with foreign-born here. The coach has made it clear that all they need to prove is they're better than their competitors to make the squad. This idea you guys are proposing is discrimination if we're being honest and shouldn't be entertained.

Ebuehi didn't play for a single youth NT in Holland but when he switched to us there was immediate uproar

I get your sentiment but there’s a difference and ‘discrimination’ is a strong word inappropriately applied in my opinion.

The primary goal of the Super Eagles is to win trophies.
The primary goal of every youth team is to develop and expose talent for the ultimate benefit of the SE. If they win tournaments along the way, that is simply icing on the cake.

Foreign-based and foreign-born youth players are most likely benefitting from expertise and facilities most of our kids can only dream of. You’ve read the personal stories of Awoniyi, Nwakali, Ighalo, Alampasu, Osimhen and countless others, many heartbreaking. And those are the ones that made it.

So these kind of kids losing out to Nigerian kids around the world many of whom can even afford to buy their own flight tickets into Nigeria for a development and exposure opportunity sounds like discrimination AGAINST the local kids to me.

It might sound like double standards but the Super Eagles is the ultimate destination of every young Nigerian player and they (the SE) are expected to win laurels for the nation.
So scouring the globe for every eligible SE player to achieve that goal is totally in order.

Just my opinion.

Blocking Foreign based/Foreign born Nigerians from our youth NT's is discriminatory regardless of how you want to spin it here. The only thing that should be the topic of discussion wrt the players is if they're good enough.

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:00 pm

Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:22 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:56 pm It seems like you're getting foreign-based mixed up with foreign-born here. The coach has made it clear that all they need to prove is they're better than their competitors to make the squad. This idea you guys are proposing is discrimination if we're being honest and shouldn't be entertained.

Ebuehi didn't play for a single youth NT in Holland but when he switched to us there was immediate uproar

I get your sentiment but there’s a difference and ‘discrimination’ is a strong word inappropriately applied in my opinion.

The primary goal of the Super Eagles is to win trophies.
The primary goal of every youth team is to develop and expose talent for the ultimate benefit of the SE. If they win tournaments along the way, that is simply icing on the cake.

Foreign-based and foreign-born youth players are most likely benefitting from expertise and facilities most of our kids can only dream of. You’ve read the personal stories of Awoniyi, Nwakali, Ighalo, Alampasu, Osimhen and countless others, many heartbreaking. And those are the ones that made it.

So these kind of kids losing out to Nigerian kids around the world many of whom can even afford to buy their own flight tickets into Nigeria for a development and exposure opportunity sounds like discrimination AGAINST the local kids to me.

It might sound like double standards but the Super Eagles is the ultimate destination of every young Nigerian player and they (the SE) are expected to win laurels for the nation.
So scouring the globe for every eligible SE player to achieve that goal is totally in order.

Just my opinion.

Blocking Foreign based/Foreign born Nigerians from our youth NT's is discriminatory regardless of how you want to spin it here. The only thing that should be the topic of discussion wrt the players is if they're good enough.

txj wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:07 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:00 pm

Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:22 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:56 pm It seems like you're getting foreign-based mixed up with foreign-born here. The coach has made it clear that all they need to prove is they're better than their competitors to make the squad. This idea you guys are proposing is discrimination if we're being honest and shouldn't be entertained.

Ebuehi didn't play for a single youth NT in Holland but when he switched to us there was immediate uproar

I get your sentiment but there’s a difference and ‘discrimination’ is a strong word inappropriately applied in my opinion.

The primary goal of the Super Eagles is to win trophies.
The primary goal of every youth team is to develop and expose talent for the ultimate benefit of the SE. If they win tournaments along the way, that is simply icing on the cake.

Foreign-based and foreign-born youth players are most likely benefitting from expertise and facilities most of our kids can only dream of. You’ve read the personal stories of Awoniyi, Nwakali, Ighalo, Alampasu, Osimhen and countless others, many heartbreaking. And those are the ones that made it.

So these kind of kids losing out to Nigerian kids around the world many of whom can even afford to buy their own flight tickets into Nigeria for a development and exposure opportunity sounds like discrimination AGAINST the local kids to me.

It might sound like double standards but the Super Eagles is the ultimate destination of every young Nigerian player and they (the SE) are expected to win laurels for the nation.
So scouring the globe for every eligible SE player to achieve that goal is totally in order.

Just my opinion.

Blocking Foreign based/Foreign born Nigerians from our youth NT's is discriminatory regardless of how you want to spin it here. The only thing that should be the topic of discussion wrt the players is if they're good enough.

Good enough for what; win trophies?

As always you are incapable of seeing the big picture.

The ultimate goal of youth football is to develop players for the SE.

The FB players already have the platform to develop, which the HB do not have. It cannot be deemed discrimination, if the ultimate goal is the SE.

I can understand making an exception for an Okocha-type FB talent. But if our goal is to develop as many players as possible for the SE, our focus should be on players in the domestic game who need this level of exposure.
As long as they're the best talent available...

Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:13 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:00 pm

Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:22 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:56 pm It seems like you're getting foreign-based mixed up with foreign-born here. The coach has made it clear that all they need to prove is they're better than their competitors to make the squad. This idea you guys are proposing is discrimination if we're being honest and shouldn't be entertained.

Ebuehi didn't play for a single youth NT in Holland but when he switched to us there was immediate uproar

I get your sentiment but there’s a difference and ‘discrimination’ is a strong word inappropriately applied in my opinion.

The primary goal of the Super Eagles is to win trophies.
The primary goal of every youth team is to develop and expose talent for the ultimate benefit of the SE. If they win tournaments along the way, that is simply icing on the cake.

Foreign-based and foreign-born youth players are most likely benefitting from expertise and facilities most of our kids can only dream of. You’ve read the personal stories of Awoniyi, Nwakali, Ighalo, Alampasu, Osimhen and countless others, many heartbreaking. And those are the ones that made it.

So these kind of kids losing out to Nigerian kids around the world many of whom can even afford to buy their own flight tickets into Nigeria for a development and exposure opportunity sounds like discrimination AGAINST the local kids to me.

It might sound like double standards but the Super Eagles is the ultimate destination of every young Nigerian player and they (the SE) are expected to win laurels for the nation.
So scouring the globe for every eligible SE player to achieve that goal is totally in order.

Just my opinion.

Blocking Foreign based/Foreign born Nigerians from our youth NT's is discriminatory regardless of how you want to spin it here. The only thing that should be the topic of discussion wrt the players is if they're good enough.

You’ve made your position known already.
However it would be nice to hear your views on the specific points I raised - what you call ‘spin’.
Are you contesting the fact that it is not a level playing field by any stretch of the imagination?

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:39 pm

Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:13 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:00 pm

Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:22 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:56 pm It seems like you're getting foreign-based mixed up with foreign-born here. The coach has made it clear that all they need to prove is they're better than their competitors to make the squad. This idea you guys are proposing is discrimination if we're being honest and shouldn't be entertained.

Ebuehi didn't play for a single youth NT in Holland but when he switched to us there was immediate uproar

I get your sentiment but there’s a difference and ‘discrimination’ is a strong word inappropriately applied in my opinion.

The primary goal of the Super Eagles is to win trophies.
The primary goal of every youth team is to develop and expose talent for the ultimate benefit of the SE. If they win tournaments along the way, that is simply icing on the cake.

Foreign-based and foreign-born youth players are most likely benefitting from expertise and facilities most of our kids can only dream of. You’ve read the personal stories of Awoniyi, Nwakali, Ighalo, Alampasu, Osimhen and countless others, many heartbreaking. And those are the ones that made it.

So these kind of kids losing out to Nigerian kids around the world many of whom can even afford to buy their own flight tickets into Nigeria for a development and exposure opportunity sounds like discrimination AGAINST the local kids to me.

It might sound like double standards but the Super Eagles is the ultimate destination of every young Nigerian player and they (the SE) are expected to win laurels for the nation.
So scouring the globe for every eligible SE player to achieve that goal is totally in order.

Just my opinion.

Blocking Foreign based/Foreign born Nigerians from our youth NT's is discriminatory regardless of how you want to spin it here. The only thing that should be the topic of discussion wrt the players is if they're good enough.

You’ve made your position known already.
However it would be nice to hear your views on the specific points I raised - what you call ‘spin’.
Are you contesting the fact that it is not a level playing field by any stretch of the imagination?

That's if you assume the foreign based players are automatically better than the home based players due to those same factors which I don't agree with. I think you're actually downplaying our homebased talents if your fear is that the team will be dominated by FB players as a result of their environment.

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:15 pm

txj wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:07 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:00 pm

Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:22 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:56 pm It seems like you're getting foreign-based mixed up with foreign-born here. The coach has made it clear that all they need to prove is they're better than their competitors to make the squad. This idea you guys are proposing is discrimination if we're being honest and shouldn't be entertained.

Ebuehi didn't play for a single youth NT in Holland but when he switched to us there was immediate uproar

I get your sentiment but there’s a difference and ‘discrimination’ is a strong word inappropriately applied in my opinion.

The primary goal of the Super Eagles is to win trophies.
The primary goal of every youth team is to develop and expose talent for the ultimate benefit of the SE. If they win tournaments along the way, that is simply icing on the cake.

Foreign-based and foreign-born youth players are most likely benefitting from expertise and facilities most of our kids can only dream of. You’ve read the personal stories of Awoniyi, Nwakali, Ighalo, Alampasu, Osimhen and countless others, many heartbreaking. And those are the ones that made it.

So these kind of kids losing out to Nigerian kids around the world many of whom can even afford to buy their own flight tickets into Nigeria for a development and exposure opportunity sounds like discrimination AGAINST the local kids to me.

It might sound like double standards but the Super Eagles is the ultimate destination of every young Nigerian player and they (the SE) are expected to win laurels for the nation.
So scouring the globe for every eligible SE player to achieve that goal is totally in order.

Just my opinion.

Blocking Foreign based/Foreign born Nigerians from our youth NT's is discriminatory regardless of how you want to spin it here. The only thing that should be the topic of discussion wrt the players is if they're good enough.

Good enough for what; win trophies?

As always you are incapable of seeing the big picture.

The ultimate goal of youth football is to develop players for the SE.

The FB players already have the platform to develop, which the HB do not have. It cannot be deemed discrimination, if the ultimate goal is the SE.

I can understand making an exception for an Okocha-type FB talent. But if our goal is to develop as many players as possible for the SE, our focus should be on players in the domestic game who need this level of exposure.
As long as they're the best talent available...

Kpom. Unless a player has special talent and we may lose him to another country, no FB should be called to youth teams. What is the point of an 18yr old from Accrington football academy traveling to Nigeria to fight for a Nigerian u20 shirt?

Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:02 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:39 pm

Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:13 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:00 pm

Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:22 pm

Sunset wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:56 pm It seems like you're getting foreign-based mixed up with foreign-born here. The coach has made it clear that all they need to prove is they're better than their competitors to make the squad. This idea you guys are proposing is discrimination if we're being honest and shouldn't be entertained.

Ebuehi didn't play for a single youth NT in Holland but when he switched to us there was immediate uproar

I get your sentiment but there’s a difference and ‘discrimination’ is a strong word inappropriately applied in my opinion.

The primary goal of the Super Eagles is to win trophies.
The primary goal of every youth team is to develop and expose talent for the ultimate benefit of the SE. If they win tournaments along the way, that is simply icing on the cake.

Foreign-based and foreign-born youth players are most likely benefitting from expertise and facilities most of our kids can only dream of. You’ve read the personal stories of Awoniyi, Nwakali, Ighalo, Alampasu, Osimhen and countless others, many heartbreaking. And those are the ones that made it.

So these kind of kids losing out to Nigerian kids around the world many of whom can even afford to buy their own flight tickets into Nigeria for a development and exposure opportunity sounds like discrimination AGAINST the local kids to me.

It might sound like double standards but the Super Eagles is the ultimate destination of every young Nigerian player and they (the SE) are expected to win laurels for the nation.
So scouring the globe for every eligible SE player to achieve that goal is totally in order.

Just my opinion.

Blocking Foreign based/Foreign born Nigerians from our youth NT's is discriminatory regardless of how you want to spin it here. The only thing that should be the topic of discussion wrt the players is if they're good enough.

You’ve made your position known already.
However it would be nice to hear your views on the specific points I raised - what you call ‘spin’.
Are you contesting the fact that it is not a level playing field by any stretch of the imagination?

That's if you assume the foreign based players are automatically better than the home based players due to those same factors which I don't agree with. I think you're actually downplaying our homebased talents if your fear is that the team will be dominated by FB players as a result of their environment.

I am not saying that at all.
In fact, truth be told, I could be saying the opposite.
The uneven playing field I refer to is what I clearly highlighted and you seem to have missed:
1. “…(the FBs are) benefitting from expertise and facilities most of our (local) kids can only dream of”, and,

2. “…Nigerian kids around the world [many of whom] can even afford to buy their own flight tickets into Nigeria for a development and exposure opportunity…”
I then reminded you of the horror stories many of our Naija born and bred stars had to go through to get a chance to show what they could do.
I don’t think you read my post.

I never remotely suggested or even hinted that they (FBs) are better. To be honest, I think the FBs for the most part are on balance not as good as the local boys at the youth level. Another reason why I am against inviting them.
What I will agree with is that as time goes on, the better facilities and coaching begin to make a difference.
I believe it is why our global dominance at the U17 level begins to dwindle at older youth tournaments.