Report emerges on NFF involvement in Super Eagles Player selection

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Gotti wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:36 pm
Damunk wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:01 am
BAP wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:21 pm Long and short of it the national team is where you utilize the best finished products we have to win championships not where we go to develop leagues or motivate players
Plain and simple fact turned to rocket science for some. :rotf:
Er…the last time SE team that actually WON any “championship” (AFCON 2013) had several HB players… :woot: Problem was with the exception of Sunday MBA most of them stayed firmly rooted to the bench :rotf:

Meanwhile, how many HB players were in the AFCON 2019 squad that lost to the likes of Madagascar?
far fewer than the number of HB players who routinely get their tooshies kicked in CHAN championships

How many HB players were in the 2021 AFCON squad that couldn’t even achieve ‘golden bronze’? Or in the squad that flopped in the WC 2022 playoffs? Far fewer than the HB players who routinely fail to qualify for CHAN/Olympics or the HB clubs whom routinely underperform in African Club Championships

The notion that any and all HB players are automatically not among “the best finished products we have to win championships” (whatever such a nebulous phrase actually translates into) is frankly obtuse. What is obtuse is constructing strawmen and arguing with yourself while trying to deconstruct them. Nobody said we shouldn't invite ANY HB player. The argument was against imposing QUOTAs as an attempt to improve the league or to give HB players confidence among other nebulous (To borrow your term ) goals :rotf:

Nonetheless, that’s not even necessarily relevant, since the NFF’s reported (or alleged) directive is merely that no more than 20 FB players should be invited for this tie, as a COST-SAVING measure. Given that only 18 players are going to be on the match day squad anyway, the coach should have even MORE than enough (ie, 18) so-called “best finished products” available to him (even if the only recent ‘finish’ involving some of these guys is their association with regular first team football). Forgive me for thinking the Coachs mandate was to actually build a winning system based on a coaching philosophy as opposed to merely playing a la carte fire brigade style matches whereby one match has no bearing ob another.

Common sense mandates that in a winning system a coach will have at least two or three CAPABLE players ready to slot in seamlessly into the system. Those would require much more than an 18/20 man pool dont you think ?? But then again I am sure you are still yearning for the Keshi era whereby a different set of HB players came to ride the Pine after every game . Little wonder that after the ANC win it was all downhill from there since there was no continuity


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Damunk wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:58 pm
Enyi wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:20 pm
OJI wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:30 pm
BAP wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:49 pm
OJI wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:44 am Why invite 26 foreign based player when ...

1) not all will be or have a chance at playing. Is there any team in the world where all have a chance of playing ?
2) there will be increased disaffection by the players, and ill will to the NFF, and coach. AND YOU DONT THINK THERE WILL BE AN FB VS HB DIVIDE IN CAMP
3) there is difficulty in securing players from their clubs.
4) one is a selecting player struggling to establish/maintain/secure their position in their team.

So apart from financial considerations, it is in line with the new NFF leadership to refocus attention on the local league. Naturally, the homebased players are going to fall within the discretionary powers of the NFF/coach. It forces the coach to be prepared to scout the local league or be given names. We must remember Pinnick/Rohr avoided the local league, and looked at local players with disdain.

Nigerian Football is NOT only about the foreign based players.

The major thought process should be why the the top 18 players shouldn't be able to beat the opposing team - Guinea Bissau - easily.
The Super Eagles is not the local league ..

Including Home based players quota on the National Team does absolutely NOTHING for the national league
It motivates the home based based players. At the very minimum, they know that 2 to 4 players will be invited at any friendly or competitive fixture.
Don't make the assumption that all positions are competently filled by foreign based players. With Nigeria's 1,400 players abroad, how come we struggle to get a decent attacking midfielder? The average foreign based player is a either a defender, defensive midfielder or striker. Very top teams in serious leagues have given a Nigerian a free, attacking midfielder role.
:rotf: It does not motivate anyone. The league is poor not because the players ain’t motivated but because the league ain’t organised.

Any player worth their salt leaves ASAP.

All the foreign based ain’t born abroad!!!

If ur good, u will find ur way abroad to a league that will pay for ur services…THIS IS A JOB NOT A HOBBY FOR THESE PLAYERS…

If u limit the coach to 20 players then he won’t invite any player not known to him, he will stick with what he knows….he can’t invite Tosin, Destiny and Kingsley only to find that they can’t hack the pressure….better stick with the devil u know….

Peseiro ain’t scouting local leagues, Nigeria is not safe security wise…u want this guy to go to Aba or Kaduna to watch a match….will u?

U want a successful senior team, u hire a competent coach and leave him do the job
Or
End up with a scenario like that of Conte and Tottenham
Enyi, check your inbox.
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BAP wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:17 pmProblem was with the exception of Sunday MBA most of them stayed firmly rooted to the bench :rotf:
Because Godfrey Oboabona was playing for Barcelona? :P

Nonetheless, how does it change the REALITY and the FACTUAL statement that the last SE team to win any “championship” contained several HB players (with Oshaniwa and Uzoenyi also getting playing time)?!

far fewer than the number of HB players who routinely get their tooshies kicked in CHAN championships
NOPE! It was most definitely NOT “far fewer” as the 2019 AFCON squad had 22 FB players while CHAN squads are 21 players. :P

Nonetheless, it is rather obtuse obfuscation to expect a tournament for HB players to have anything other than HB players. A case of leaving rice and cooking stone. :P

Far fewer than the HB players who routinely fail to qualify for CHAN/Olympics or the HB clubs whom routinely underperform in African Club Championships
Exactly! As opposed to our FB players who have been winning European club trophies every year…oh wait! :P

If there’s a rule that only players in continental-winning clubs would be called up for the SE, we would be lucky to have even 1 or 2 players called up. Another case of leaving substance and chasing shadows. :lol:
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Anyway, far too busy (or simply too bored) to expend any more time deconstructing the rest of your tedious pedantic drivel, but in case you’re still belaboring under an apparent comprehension deficit, simply choose players on INDIVIDUAL merit, rather than the OBTUSE notion of residency. SMDH
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Damunk wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:52 pmVarnish ko, foolish in.
Are you disagreeing with BAP’s point or not? Because this your rant na foolish man’s rant.
Are you coming or going?
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His Master’s Voice desperately seeking for a new Massa to administer oral colonoscopy to?!
Perhaps, if you open your mouth wide enough, your Massa will be “coming” and “going” there. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Gotti wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:41 pm
BAP wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:17 pmProblem was with the exception of Sunday MBA most of them stayed firmly rooted to the bench :rotf:
Because Godfrey Oboabona was playing for Barcelona? :P

Nonetheless, how does it change the REALITY and the FACTUAL statement that the last SE team to win any “championship” contained several HB players (with Oshaniwa and Uzoenyi also getting playing time)?!

far fewer than the number of HB players who routinely get their tooshies kicked in CHAN championships
NOPE! It was most definitely NOT “far fewer” as the 2019 AFCON squad had 22 FB players while CHAN squads are 21 players. :P

Nonetheless, it is rather obtuse obfuscation to expect a tournament for HB players to have anything other than HB players. A case of leaving rice and cooking stone. :P

Far fewer than the HB players who routinely fail to qualify for CHAN/Olympics or the HB clubs whom routinely underperform in African Club Championships
Exactly! As opposed to our FB players who have been winning European club trophies every year…oh wait! :P

If there’s a rule that only players in continental-winning clubs would be called up for the SE, we would be lucky to have even 1 or 2 players called up. Another case of leaving substance and chasing shadows. :lol:
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Anyway, far too busy (or simply too bored) to expend any more time deconstructing the rest of your tedious pedantic drivel, but in case you’re still belaboring under an apparent comprehension deficit, simply choose players on INDIVIDUAL merit, rather than the OBTUSE notion of residency. SMDH
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Goatie Goattie :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Per the underlined I realize of course that the only way you can only get that little dipstick of yours you call a penis to halfway function is to go around on CE fighting people half your age over nothing. Way to get your boner up eh ??? Why not try some testosterone supplements instead .. Just see a Urologist already will ya ? :mrgreen:

You have been using the comprehension deficit phrase since the 90s bro -- Talk about a borefest -- Time for a replacement phrase dont you think ? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

And per the italicized portion of the underlined portion of the claptrap you spewed above .. that precisely was the point .. To get your buddies at the NFF to stop imposing OBTUSE residency based quotas on the team . IQ deficit perhaps ? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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