Cybereagles

Gotti wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:14 am

txj wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:42 pm Looking fwd to watching the US team. Quite a good collection of players...even with the withdrawals...

What happened? Couldn’t they give what they didn’t have?!

It’s football, but easy for ‘perfect’ Internet coaches to pontificate on CE!

Rawlings wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:36 am Naija do well

Congratulations for making Africa Proud

vancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:35 am

TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:09 am For anyone interested, the game is being shown on FS2 right now.

It’s ironic that we lost the best game we played in this tournament. One can’t over-emphasize the need for good finishers. You must take advantage of the opportunities that come your way or you could be left wondering what the heck happened . Anyway, kudos to the lads and their coaches for a good effort


Cheers.

The problem wasn't even finishing.

We didn't create nothing all match.

PISS POOR.

vancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:35 am

TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:09 am For anyone interested, the game is being shown on FS2 right now.

It’s ironic that we lost the best game we played in this tournament. One can’t over-emphasize the need for good finishers. You must take advantage of the opportunities that come your way or you could be left wondering what the heck happened . Anyway, kudos to the lads and their coaches for a good effort


Cheers.

The problem wasn't even finishing.

We didn't create nothing all match.

PISS POOR.

txj wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:10 amAnyone who follows and understands the game wouldn't laugh at the US. This I think is their 4th or 5th consecutive q/final finish.

What that means is that they are consistently developing players. Their league is producing top talent for European teams.

More importantly it is producing players who are able to compete at the senior international level, sometimes over their peers who are European based.

We can't say the same for Nigerian players. If Daga doesn't go to Europe he will never be a top player while at Dakkada FC.

I would definitely not laugh at the US...

bret- hart wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:47 am

Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:25 am So what is it going to be with Bo$$o, keep as U20 coach or fire?

Fire him biko. I cant wait for Sia1 to return from his ban.

Gotti wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:11 pm WELL, THE RUN IS OVER…

This team wasn’t going to score all week.
And what exactly was the point of Abdullahi? SMH

Lolly wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:03 pm The boys tried but we are carrying a few poor players in the team today.

txj wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:37 pm

airwolex wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:20 pm It was a solid team. We just don't have that one guy upfront with that bit if magic, even then we were better in the day. I really like the football they played

A physically tough team that got better organized as they progressed in the tourney. But the fundamentals of the team organization in the modern game, plus the individual player technique was always lacking from poor early development.

Those who understand the game and are willing to be honest will understand what I'm saying.

The overall selection, I always questioned. The coaching acumen wrt talent development has never been there with this coach...You cannot offer that which you do not have...

Very little sympathy for the Nigerian team in this tournament.

waka-man wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:09 am I still think these tournament do what we need them to.

If all we got out of this was the WW launch of Daniel Daga, it was worth it.

I also think there’s a continued and necessary burying of the idea of 1994, and the rough but definite emergence of a new Naija style of soccer that is home-bred, competes for the ball at every spot on the field and built on defensive organisation. It’s what Amodu was trying to do, understanding as he did that our infrastructure was more likely to produce more Agahowas than Mikel’s.

I hope Bosso is kicking himself for not taking any great strikers but I also hope he’s secretly proud of the unique brand of football he managed to produce.

Damunk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:21 pm

waka-man wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:09 am I still think these tournament do what we need them to.

If all we got out of this was the WW launch of Daniel Daga, it was worth it.

I also think there’s a continued and necessary burying of the idea of 1994, and the rough but definite emergence of a new Naija style of soccer that is home-bred, competes for the ball at every spot on the field and built on defensive organisation. It’s what Amodu was trying to do, understanding as he did that our infrastructure was more likely to produce more Agahowas than Mikel’s.

I hope Bosso is kicking himself for not taking any great strikers but I also hope he’s secretly proud of the unique brand of football he managed to produce.

I think I will have to re-watch these last two games because I desperately wanted to see the "defensive organisation" being spoken about.
I watched the Argentina game in full but only half the SK game (I will watch the rest).

I was very frustrated at how our defence kept losing team possession by booting the ball out once under pressure.
Though quite successful, I don't really regard that as good defending, even as the commentator described it as "wonderful defending".
I was like, really?

The way the Argies were dancing round and through our defence was quite embarrassing.
The Argentine problem was end product, but that's not our concern. We beat then 2-0 fair and square.

There was a lot of jambodi play from us against both teams.
I am really concerned by that, especially in our youth teams that are known for their free-flowing style.

Gotti wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:41 am

txj wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:10 amAnyone who follows and understands the game wouldn't laugh at the US. This I think is their 4th or 5th consecutive q/final finish.

What that means is that they are consistently developing players. Their league is producing top talent for European teams.

More importantly it is producing players who are able to compete at the senior international level, sometimes over their peers who are European based.

We can't say the same for Nigerian players. If Daga doesn't go to Europe he will never be a top player while at Dakkada FC.

I would definitely not laugh at the US...

You mean like top US youth players like Pulisic went to Europe to develop into a ‘top player’?!

Gotti wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:41 am

txj wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:10 amAnyone who follows and understands the game wouldn't laugh at the US. This I think is their 4th or 5th consecutive q/final finish.

What that means is that they are consistently developing players. Their league is producing top talent for European teams.

More importantly it is producing players who are able to compete at the senior international level, sometimes over their peers who are European based.

We can't say the same for Nigerian players. If Daga doesn't go to Europe he will never be a top player while at Dakkada FC.

I would definitely not laugh at the US...

You mean like top US youth players like Pulisic went to Europe to develop into a ‘top player’?!

Damunk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:21 pm

waka-man wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:09 am I still think these tournament do what we need them to.

If all we got out of this was the WW launch of Daniel Daga, it was worth it.

I also think there’s a continued and necessary burying of the idea of 1994, and the rough but definite emergence of a new Naija style of soccer that is home-bred, competes for the ball at every spot on the field and built on defensive organisation. It’s what Amodu was trying to do, understanding as he did that our infrastructure was more likely to produce more Agahowas than Mikel’s.

I hope Bosso is kicking himself for not taking any great strikers but I also hope he’s secretly proud of the unique brand of football he managed to produce.

I think I will have to re-watch these last two games because I desperately wanted to see the "defensive organisation" being spoken about.
I watched the Argentina game in full but only half the SK game (I will watch the rest).

I was very frustrated at how our defence kept losing team possession by booting the ball out once under pressure.
Though quite successful, I don't really regard that as good defending, even as the commentator described it as "wonderful defending".
I was like, really?

The way the Argies were dancing round and through our defence was quite embarrassing.
The Argentine problem was end product, but that's not our concern. We beat then 2-0 fair and square.

There was a lot of jambodi play from us against both teams.
I am really concerned by that, especially in our youth teams that are known for their free-flowing style.

Gotti wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:36 pm

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 8:54 pm This is proof positive that South Korea has overtaken us as a football nation. If they hold on, the scoreline will not show but this is a sound and comprehensive defeat. Really, they're not our mates in football.

The way Israel have “overtaken” Brazil as a football nation?!

Anyway, from my recollection, South Korea tends to beat us more times than not (I distinctly a loss at the 2010 under Lagerback), albeit it can be argued that we don’t play them competitively often enough to draw a firm conclusion. South Korea has had pretty decent senior sides since since the turn of the century or thereabouts (in fact, it’s 1994 USA WC team played very good, albeit a tad naive, football) and have produced (and continues to produce) some pretty good players.

In fact, I recall South Korea wiring Jo Bonfrere’s Nigeria U23 team 5-0 or 5-1 in the run-up to the 2000 Olympics.

Damunk wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:21 pm

waka-man wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:09 am I still think these tournament do what we need them to.

If all we got out of this was the WW launch of Daniel Daga, it was worth it.

I also think there’s a continued and necessary burying of the idea of 1994, and the rough but definite emergence of a new Naija style of soccer that is home-bred, competes for the ball at every spot on the field and built on defensive organisation. It’s what Amodu was trying to do, understanding as he did that our infrastructure was more likely to produce more Agahowas than Mikel’s.

I hope Bosso is kicking himself for not taking any great strikers but I also hope he’s secretly proud of the unique brand of football he managed to produce.

I think I will have to re-watch these last two games because I desperately wanted to see the "defensive organisation" being spoken about.
I watched the Argentina game in full but only half the SK game (I will watch the rest).

I was very frustrated at how our defence kept losing team possession by booting the ball out once under pressure.
Though quite successful, I don't really regard that as good defending, even as the commentator described it as "wonderful defending".
I was like, really?

The way the Argies were dancing round and through our defence was quite embarrassing.
The Argentine problem was end product, but that's not our concern. We beat then 2-0 fair and square.

There was a lot of jambodi play from us against both teams.
I am really concerned by that, especially in our youth teams that are known for their free-flowing style.

1naija wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:12 pm Or like Nwakali, Alampasu, Musa Yahaya, Dele Adeleye, etc who all moved to Europe after great performances at youth tournaments and became to world superstars.

Clearly, ATF txj, watches too much tv and lives la-la land.

Gotti wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:41 am

txj wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:10 amAnyone who follows and understands the game wouldn't laugh at the US. This I think is their 4th or 5th consecutive q/final finish.

What that means is that they are consistently developing players. Their league is producing top talent for European teams.

More importantly it is producing players who are able to compete at the senior international level, sometimes over their peers who are European based.

We can't say the same for Nigerian players. If Daga doesn't go to Europe he will never be a top player while at Dakkada FC.

I would definitely not laugh at the US...

You mean like top US youth players like Pulisic went to Europe to develop into a ‘top player’?!

waka-man wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:54 pm Jambodi is indeed a key component of our emerging style. And we should accept and own it.

Yeah, you need the technical side - and quite a few of our U20 were very technical - but there’s something emerging that we should not dismiss.

Even our greatest player right now throws his body around.

waka-man wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:54 pm Jambodi is indeed a key component of our emerging style. And we should accept and own it.

Yeah, you need the technical side - and quite a few of our U20 were very technical - but there’s something emerging that we should not dismiss.

Even our greatest player right now throws his body around.