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Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:26 pm Traditionally we've always produced great strikers with ruthless finishing, and wingers with pace and flair right from our youth teams to senior level...but I've noticed (at least from evaluating our U17-U20 teams as a yardstick) that we are not producing efficient finishers anymore? in the recent years our various youth teams have always churned out a lavish factory of eminent strikers, so one would think Nigeria will never suffer a dearth of finishers given our history...but it's looking like we're gradually seeing a shift in our football identity where we are producing less and less of strikers (at least since the Osimhen, Awoniyi, Iheanacho generation) and we seem to be seeing a more defense-oriented brand of Nigerian football where more Center-backs and defensive midfielders are emerging? not sure if this is a identity transition which several teams go through or just a temporary phase?

Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:26 pm Traditionally we've always produced great strikers with ruthless finishing, and wingers with pace and flair right from our youth teams to senior level...but I've noticed (at least from evaluating our U17-U20 teams as a yardstick) that we are not producing efficient finishers anymore? in the recent years our various youth teams have always churned out a lavish factory of eminent strikers, so one would think Nigeria will never suffer a dearth of finishers given our history...but it's looking like we're gradually seeing a shift in our football identity where we are producing less and less of strikers (at least since the Osimhen, Awoniyi, Iheanacho generation) and we seem to be seeing a more defense-oriented brand of Nigerian football where more Center-backs and defensive midfielders are emerging? not sure if this is a identity transition which several teams go through or just a temporary phase?

waka-man wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:31 pm

Tobi17 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:26 pm Traditionally we've always produced great strikers with ruthless finishing, and wingers with pace and flair right from our youth teams to senior level...but I've noticed (at least from evaluating our U17-U20 teams as a yardstick) that we are not producing efficient finishers anymore? in the recent years our various youth teams have always churned out a lavish factory of eminent strikers, so one would think Nigeria will never suffer a dearth of finishers given our history...but it's looking like we're gradually seeing a shift in our football identity where we are producing less and less of strikers (at least since the Osimhen, Awoniyi, Iheanacho generation) and we seem to be seeing a more defense-oriented brand of Nigerian football where more Center-backs and defensive midfielders are emerging? not sure if this is a identity transition which several teams go through or just a temporary phase?

Is there any evidence of this apart from Bosso’s team? We continue to struggle to find defenders whereas the Orban’s and Boniface’s of the world abound.

bret- hart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:18 pm There is no shift. It's just Bo$$o team in a nutshell.

maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:32 pm

bret- hart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:18 pm There is no shift. It's just Bo$$o team in a nutshell.

The U-17 team suffered from poor striking as well…

bret- hart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:41 pm

maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:32 pm

bret- hart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:18 pm There is no shift. It's just Bo$$o team in a nutshell.

The U-17 team suffered from poor striking as well…

Because our youth coaches are not picking the best youth players.

bret- hart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:41 pm

maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:32 pm

bret- hart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:18 pm There is no shift. It's just Bo$$o team in a nutshell.

The U-17 team suffered from poor striking as well…

Because our youth coaches are not picking the best youth players.

TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:09 pm

bret- hart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:41 pm

maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:32 pm

bret- hart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:18 pm There is no shift. It's just Bo$$o team in a nutshell.

The U-17 team suffered from poor striking as well…

Because our youth coaches are not picking the best youth players.

Please name some of those great youth players, besides Akinsanmiro, who weren’t in Argentina


Cheers.

txj wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:48 pm

TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:09 pm

bret- hart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:41 pm

maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:32 pm

bret- hart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:18 pm There is no shift. It's just Bo$$o team in a nutshell.

The U-17 team suffered from poor striking as well…

Because our youth coaches are not picking the best youth players.

Please name some of those great youth players, besides Akinsanmiro, who weren’t in Argentina


Cheers.

When you base call ups on the strength of agency representation, you limit yourself to only the players that the agents show you. That is not proper scouting...

TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:26 am

txj wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:48 pm

TonyTheTigerKiller wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:09 pm

bret- hart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:41 pm

maceo4 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:32 pm

bret- hart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:18 pm There is no shift. It's just Bo$$o team in a nutshell.

The U-17 team suffered from poor striking as well…

Because our youth coaches are not picking the best youth players.

Please name some of those great youth players, besides Akinsanmiro, who weren’t in Argentina


Cheers.

When you base call ups on the strength of agency representation, you limit yourself to only the players that the agents show you. That is not proper scouting...

Nice rhetoric but the only way to establish that the best youth players weren’t in Argentina is to name them. We already know of a few possibles who were absent because their clubs either refused to release them or were setting difficult conditions for their release and you can’t blame the coach for those circumstances


Cheers.

vancity eagle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:22 pm What we are experiencing is a new low for Nigerian football.

The current NFF is so corrupt and inept they make Pinnick look like a genius.

Still no list, yet Peseiro is supposedly watching Super 6 to see who will be forced into his team.

Yum Yum fc and co.

Still no friendly match with world cup qualifiers to start in November.

Please tell me when ever did we not play a friendly under Pinnick ?

Who on earth voted this goat herders in as president. What a useless bunch of crooks.

highbury wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:32 am

vancity eagle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:22 pm What we are experiencing is a new low for Nigerian football.

The current NFF is so corrupt and inept they make Pinnick look like a genius.

Still no list, yet Peseiro is supposedly watching Super 6 to see who will be forced into his team.

Yum Yum fc and co.

Still no friendly match with world cup qualifiers to start in November.

Please tell me when ever did we not play a friendly under Pinnick ?

Who on earth voted this goat herders in as president. What a useless bunch of crooks.

Dude, there are more pertinent issues in life than the SE list. What's this obsession?

Tobi17 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:07 am

highbury wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:32 am

vancity eagle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:22 pm What we are experiencing is a new low for Nigerian football.

The current NFF is so corrupt and inept they make Pinnick look like a genius.

Still no list, yet Peseiro is supposedly watching Super 6 to see who will be forced into his team.

Yum Yum fc and co.

Still no friendly match with world cup qualifiers to start in November.

Please tell me when ever did we not play a friendly under Pinnick ?

Who on earth voted this goat herders in as president. What a useless bunch of crooks.

Dude, there are more pertinent issues in life than the SE list. What's this obsession?

I mean this is a forum for fans of Nigerian football, so what's the issue with VE expressing his opinions about the SE?

danfo driver wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 3:43 pm e sey na new phase new phase of Musa and Simon

Talk about being mentally demented. The woman they found to care for you needs to restrict your internet access. 1mbecile.

Orion wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:52 pm I hope the myth that we have an abundance of top-quality strikers finally dies once and for all.

We hound players out of our team prematurely because of that false belief. Fans think we have an abundance of top young guns waiting in the wings to take over. IMO, Ighalo was prematurely hounded out of the team in 2019. And what did the new strikers he was supposedly keeping out of the team do? Zilch. They didn't produce even half of what Ighalo was doing. Osimhen was OK, but as soon as he got injured, we had no decent cover.

Tobi17 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 5:07 pm

Orion wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:52 pm I hope the myth that we have an abundance of top-quality strikers finally dies once and for all.

We hound players out of our team prematurely because of that false belief. Fans think we have an abundance of top young guns waiting in the wings to take over. IMO, Ighalo was prematurely hounded out of the team in 2019. And what did the new strikers he was supposedly keeping out of the team do? Zilch. They didn't produce even half of what Ighalo was doing. Osimhen was OK, but as soon as he got injured, we had no decent cover.

But how come these guys play so well for their respective clubs?

danfo driver wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:54 pm

Tobi17 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 5:07 pm

Orion wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:52 pm I hope the myth that we have an abundance of top-quality strikers finally dies once and for all.

We hound players out of our team prematurely because of that false belief. Fans think we have an abundance of top young guns waiting in the wings to take over. IMO, Ighalo was prematurely hounded out of the team in 2019. And what did the new strikers he was supposedly keeping out of the team do? Zilch. They didn't produce even half of what Ighalo was doing. Osimhen was OK, but as soon as he got injured, we had no decent cover.

But how come these guys play so well for their respective clubs?

stop asking demented questions, you feeble brained cretin. I know its saturday morning and the woman they found to help you is sleeping in, but she shouldnt take off the rope that she ties to your neck, so you dont stray. 1mbecile!

Tobi17 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 10:32 pm

danfo driver wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:54 pm

Tobi17 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 5:07 pm

Orion wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:52 pm I hope the myth that we have an abundance of top-quality strikers finally dies once and for all.

We hound players out of our team prematurely because of that false belief. Fans think we have an abundance of top young guns waiting in the wings to take over. IMO, Ighalo was prematurely hounded out of the team in 2019. And what did the new strikers he was supposedly keeping out of the team do? Zilch. They didn't produce even half of what Ighalo was doing. Osimhen was OK, but as soon as he got injured, we had no decent cover.

But how come these guys play so well for their respective clubs?

stop asking demented questions, you feeble brained cretin. I know its saturday morning and the woman they found to help you is sleeping in, but she shouldnt take off the rope that she ties to your neck, so you dont stray. 1mbecile!

Your kids DanFAG, those poor little things, if onlyv...