Who was at fault for that goal ?
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Too early to conclude but I like what I have been seeing in Bassey this season for club and countryDammy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:37 pmHe was injured in the earlier part of the season and has only played in Luton’s last 3 matches and played the full 90 minutes in the last two matches. His presence has stabilised the Luton Town defence and he’s much better than Bassey, who plays in the same leagueLolly wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:00 pmIt takes more than two matches to fully assess a player. The same Luton has been chopping goals before their last two games.Dammy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:48 amHow else can Osho stand out after keeping Salah and Rashford quiet in successive matches?
This is how we start to call players world class after a couple of games. Boniface, Moffi, Orban are typical examples. Very average players who flatter to deceive.
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
That Osho guy is not a solution oh.Dammy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:48 amHow else can Osho stand out after keeping Salah and Rashford quiet in successive matches?
Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
You seem so preoccupied with this local vs foreign players fallacy.mcal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:50 pm...another thing is, these are players understand their team mates (at club level), at SE the players don't understand each other even when they pretend to.Dammy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:37 pmHe was injured in the earlier part of the season and has only played in Luton’s last 3 matches and played the full 90 minutes in the last two matches. His presence has stabilised the Luton Town defence and he’s much better than Bassey, who plays in the same leagueLolly wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:00 pmIt takes more than two matches to fully assess a player. The same Luton has been chopping goals before their last two games.Dammy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:48 amHow else can Osho stand out after keeping Salah and Rashford quiet in successive matches?
This is how we start to call players world class after a couple of games. Boniface, Moffi, Orban are typical examples. Very average players who flatter to deceive.
2 or 3 days together doesn't gel a team, especially when they are foreign based looking to show off what they brought back from abroad to hungry folks at home.
Note, you saw how that local base goalie was snubbed at the training facility gate, if na a foreign based player no be siren and police go dey wail all the way in.
It makes no sense.
Why don’t we just load up the bulk of our ‘hungry’ CHAN team if it was so straightforward?
Stick Osimhen and Boni up front and leave the rest to God.
Oh wait!……
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
You realize this site is dedicated to the support of the same Nigeria football, right? I am just wondering, what's the rational for making the announcement here when Ghanaweb would have been the perfect platform for such announcement. Just saying...
soma wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 pm I lost interest in Nigeria football years ago, hardly follow our players and can hardly name seven starters. Gave up since we sacked Siasia years ago.
A country that fields Uzoho, Ajayi has no business at the World Cup. Iwobi is not a center midfielder and Onyeka although not good enough being a lone defensive midfielder what do you expect.
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
1naija wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:37 pm You realize this site is dedicated to the support of the same Nigeria football, right? I am just wondering, what's the rational for making the announcement here when Ghanaweb would have been the perfect platform for such announcement. Just saying...
soma wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 pm I lost interest in Nigeria football years ago, hardly follow our players and can hardly name seven starters. Gave up since we sacked Siasia years ago.
A country that fields Uzoho, Ajayi has no business at the World Cup. Iwobi is not a center midfielder and Onyeka although not good enough being a lone defensive midfielder what do you expect.
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
You can care about something, but be upset about how it is being managed.1naija wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:37 pm You realize this site is dedicated to the support of the same Nigeria football, right? I am just wondering, what's the rational for making the announcement here when Ghanaweb would have been the perfect platform for such announcement. Just saying...
soma wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 pm I lost interest in Nigeria football years ago, hardly follow our players and can hardly name seven starters. Gave up since we sacked Siasia years ago.
A country that fields Uzoho, Ajayi has no business at the World Cup. Iwobi is not a center midfielder and Onyeka although not good enough being a lone defensive midfielder what do you expect.
That seems to be the case with SOMA, given that he names 4 players while making a random point in the next statement.
He may have lost hope, and maybe even 'interest' from a standpoint of positive emotions, but he still follows, and would be happy if things were much better.
Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
He said lost hope years ago, I have no problem with that. I am just wondering his choice of platform to announce that on. That's like going to Mickie Ds and annoncing your disgust for fast foods.
truetalk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:06 pmYou can care about something, but be upset about how it is being managed.1naija wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:37 pm You realize this site is dedicated to the support of the same Nigeria football, right? I am just wondering, what's the rational for making the announcement here when Ghanaweb would have been the perfect platform for such announcement. Just saying...
soma wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 pm I lost interest in Nigeria football years ago, hardly follow our players and can hardly name seven starters. Gave up since we sacked Siasia years ago.
A country that fields Uzoho, Ajayi has no business at the World Cup. Iwobi is not a center midfielder and Onyeka although not good enough being a lone defensive midfielder what do you expect.
That seems to be the case with SOMA, given that he names 4 players while making a random point in the next statement.
He may have lost hope, and maybe even 'interest' from a standpoint of positive emotions, but he still follows, and would be happy if things were much better.
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
Like you; brother Soma, I don't watch our games anymore. I am scared to do so, else only God knows. It's very scary to mesoma wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 pm I lost interest in Nigeria football years ago, hardly follow our players and can hardly name seven starters. Gave up since we sacked Siasia years ago.
A country that fields Uzoho, Ajayi has no business at the World Cup. Iwobi is not a center midfielder and Onyeka although not good enough being a lone defensive midfielder what do you expect.
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
The guy who scored ran in from the 6.
Iheanacho was the one closest to him and should have picked him up when he made the run.
But it is a tale of how the players play when playing for the national team. Few of them have any sense of urgency. Starting with the guy who lost the ball in midfield non-challantly, that led to the sequence of dead ball situations for Lesotho.
It then goes back to coaching. If you don't pay attention to details and chastise them in practice about paying attention and about details, they will carry it into games.
Defending is not just about tactics or strategy but a willingness to do it. Don't mark space when you are not doing zonal marking. Watch the runner... pay attention to your surroundings. If as a professional you don't know these basic things, there's nothing a coach can do but to find someone who pays attention to such details.
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
While someone should have picked up the scorer who ghosted in from outside the 6 box, The goalkeeper's decision was insane.
He was standing in the 6-yard box before the corner, and as soon as the dead ball was kicked, he retreated back to the goal line. Had he stayed where he was, he would have easily tracked the ball down and saved it before it got to its final destination
He was standing in the 6-yard box before the corner, and as soon as the dead ball was kicked, he retreated back to the goal line. Had he stayed where he was, he would have easily tracked the ball down and saved it before it got to its final destination
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
The guy said he has lost interest since Siasia was let go, which was in 2016, and then proceeded to give a good analysis of a few current playerstruetalk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:06 pmYou can care about something, but be upset about how it is being managed.1naija wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:37 pm You realize this site is dedicated to the support of the same Nigeria football, right? I am just wondering, what's the rational for making the announcement here when Ghanaweb would have been the perfect platform for such announcement. Just saying...
soma wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 pm I lost interest in Nigeria football years ago, hardly follow our players and can hardly name seven starters. Gave up since we sacked Siasia years ago.
A country that fields Uzoho, Ajayi has no business at the World Cup. Iwobi is not a center midfielder and Onyeka although not good enough being a lone defensive midfielder what do you expect.
That seems to be the case with SOMA, given that he names 4 players while making a random point in the next statement.
He may have lost hope, and maybe even 'interest' from a standpoint of positive emotions, but he still follows, and would be happy if things were much better.
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
Siasia is coming back next year!packerland wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:47 pmThe guy said he has lost interest since Siasia was let go, which was in 2016, and then proceeded to give a good analysis of a few current playerstruetalk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:06 pmYou can care about something, but be upset about how it is being managed.1naija wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:37 pm You realize this site is dedicated to the support of the same Nigeria football, right? I am just wondering, what's the rational for making the announcement here when Ghanaweb would have been the perfect platform for such announcement. Just saying...
soma wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 pm I lost interest in Nigeria football years ago, hardly follow our players and can hardly name seven starters. Gave up since we sacked Siasia years ago.
A country that fields Uzoho, Ajayi has no business at the World Cup. Iwobi is not a center midfielder and Onyeka although not good enough being a lone defensive midfielder what do you expect.
That seems to be the case with SOMA, given that he names 4 players while making a random point in the next statement.
He may have lost hope, and maybe even 'interest' from a standpoint of positive emotions, but he still follows, and would be happy if things were much better.
I am happy
Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
Exactly, even though i only saw highlights of the goal, in the words of Gotti, Uzoho was just as efficient as a trash bin. wahala no dey sha.
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
Those saying can’t blame Uzoho are real dumb asssees; I guess you can’t blame chief of defense staff for any fiasco caused by his military. You can’t blame the coach for his players ineptitude either.
Uzoho is responsible for organizing his defense is a corner kick and spotting any danger before the ball is kicked. Uzoho isn’t capable of that job position. He has failed us over and over. That one Ivorian keeper we beat to win Afcon failed civ over and over regardless and was booted eventually
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
Well I'm not surprised it was Lazy man Kels.Cellular wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 5:22 pmThe guy who scored ran in from the 6.
Iheanacho was the one closest to him and should have picked him up when he made the run.
But it is a tale of how the players play when playing for the national team. Few of them have any sense of urgency. Starting with the guy who lost the ball in midfield non-challantly, that led to the sequence of dead ball situations for Lesotho.
It then goes back to coaching. If you don't pay attention to details and chastise them in practice about paying attention and about details, they will carry it into games.
Defending is not just about tactics or strategy but a willingness to do it. Don't mark space when you are not doing zonal marking. Watch the runner... pay attention to your surroundings. If as a professional you don't know these basic things, there's nothing a coach can do but to find someone who pays attention to such details.
The laziest most useless "big man football" player on the pitch.
The sooner we get rid of this guy the better.
His occasional goal here and there does not hide the fact that he leaves us minus 1.
Playing him on the wings is even dumber.
Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
...like it was noted earlier here, Lesotho don't even have a football club that can compete on the continent much less beat a Nigerian club. So why would their no-name club minnows give our European based super stars a torrid time, scoring first too. It's not like we scored and scored, and they score a consolation goal.Damunk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:23 pmYou seem so preoccupied with this local vs foreign players fallacy.mcal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:50 pm...another thing is, these are players understand their team mates (at club level), at SE the players don't understand each other even when they pretend to.Dammy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:37 pmHe was injured in the earlier part of the season and has only played in Luton’s last 3 matches and played the full 90 minutes in the last two matches. His presence has stabilised the Luton Town defence and he’s much better than Bassey, who plays in the same leagueLolly wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:00 pmIt takes more than two matches to fully assess a player. The same Luton has been chopping goals before their last two games.Dammy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:48 amHow else can Osho stand out after keeping Salah and Rashford quiet in successive matches?
This is how we start to call players world class after a couple of games. Boniface, Moffi, Orban are typical examples. Very average players who flatter to deceive.
2 or 3 days together doesn't gel a team, especially when they are foreign based looking to show off what they brought back from abroad to hungry folks at home.
Note, you saw how that local base goalie was snubbed at the training facility gate, if na a foreign based player no be siren and police go dey wail all the way in.
It makes no sense.
Why don’t we just load up the bulk of our ‘hungry’ CHAN team if it was so straightforward?
Stick Osimhen and Boni up front and leave the rest to God.
Oh wait!……
Go see how the USA dealt with their Caribbean minnow T&T yesterday.
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
I think you’re talking about Boubacar Barry. He was a basket like Uzoho but he eventually came through for them. I believe he got lucky and saved a penalty in the 2015 AFCON finals against Ghana.jette1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:58 pmThose saying can’t blame Uzoho are real dumb asssees; I guess you can’t blame chief of defense staff for any fiasco caused by his military. You can’t blame the coach for his players ineptitude either.
Uzoho is responsible for organizing his defense is a corner kick and spotting any danger before the ball is kicked. Uzoho isn’t capable of that job position. He has failed us over and over. That one Ivorian keeper we beat to win Afcon failed civ over and over regardless and was booted eventually
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
So why not let’s do what I’ve suggested and use the ‘stronger’, ‘hungry’, ajepaki local players? Let them show all these spoilt ajebota ‘foreign’ prima donnas how it is done.mcal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:28 pm...like it was noted earlier here, Lesotho don't even have a football club that can compete on the continent much less beat a Nigerian club. So why would their no-name club minnows give our European based super stars a torrid time, scoring first too. It's not like we scored and scored, and they score a consolation goal.Damunk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:23 pmYou seem so preoccupied with this local vs foreign players fallacy.mcal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:50 pm...another thing is, these are players understand their team mates (at club level), at SE the players don't understand each other even when they pretend to.Dammy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:37 pmHe was injured in the earlier part of the season and has only played in Luton’s last 3 matches and played the full 90 minutes in the last two matches. His presence has stabilised the Luton Town defence and he’s much better than Bassey, who plays in the same leagueLolly wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:00 pmIt takes more than two matches to fully assess a player. The same Luton has been chopping goals before their last two games.
This is how we start to call players world class after a couple of games. Boniface, Moffi, Orban are typical examples. Very average players who flatter to deceive.
2 or 3 days together doesn't gel a team, especially when they are foreign based looking to show off what they brought back from abroad to hungry folks at home.
Note, you saw how that local base goalie was snubbed at the training facility gate, if na a foreign based player no be siren and police go dey wail all the way in.
It makes no sense.
Why don’t we just load up the bulk of our ‘hungry’ CHAN team if it was so straightforward?
Stick Osimhen and Boni up front and leave the rest to God.
Oh wait!……
Go see how the USA dealt with their Caribbean minnow T&T yesterday.
After all, on the African continent there is ample evidence that our local players, clubs and our all-conquering CHAN team are more likely to deliver, right?
Right?
You no answer?
My brother, there’s obviously an illness, but your diagnosis has no basis.
It’s like a doctor telling Chukwuolu that his diabetes is caused by him eating mashed potato instead of pounded yam.
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
...well let us then settle and continue on with foreign-whatever, coach players.Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:55 amSo why not let’s do what I’ve suggested and use the ‘stronger’, ‘hungry’, ajepaki local players? Let them show all these spoilt ajebota ‘foreign’ prima donnas how it is done.mcal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:28 pm...like it was noted earlier here, Lesotho don't even have a football club that can compete on the continent much less beat a Nigerian club. So why would their no-name club minnows give our European based super stars a torrid time, scoring first too. It's not like we scored and scored, and they score a consolation goal.Damunk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:23 pmYou seem so preoccupied with this local vs foreign players fallacy.mcal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:50 pm...another thing is, these are players understand their team mates (at club level), at SE the players don't understand each other even when they pretend to.Dammy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:37 pmHe was injured in the earlier part of the season and has only played in Luton’s last 3 matches and played the full 90 minutes in the last two matches. His presence has stabilised the Luton Town defence and he’s much better than Bassey, who plays in the same leagueLolly wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:00 pmIt takes more than two matches to fully assess a player. The same Luton has been chopping goals before their last two games.
This is how we start to call players world class after a couple of games. Boniface, Moffi, Orban are typical examples. Very average players who flatter to deceive.
2 or 3 days together doesn't gel a team, especially when they are foreign based looking to show off what they brought back from abroad to hungry folks at home.
Note, you saw how that local base goalie was snubbed at the training facility gate, if na a foreign based player no be siren and police go dey wail all the way in.
It makes no sense.
Why don’t we just load up the bulk of our ‘hungry’ CHAN team if it was so straightforward?
Stick Osimhen and Boni up front and leave the rest to God.
Oh wait!……
Go see how the USA dealt with their Caribbean minnow T&T yesterday.
After all, on the African continent there is ample evidence that our local players, clubs and our all-conquering CHAN team are more likely to deliver, right?
Right?
You no answer?
My brother, there’s obviously an illness, but your diagnosis has no basis.
It’s like a doctor telling Chukwuolu that his diabetes is caused by him eating mashed potato instead of pounded yam.
After all the former nfa mugu chief have strongly rubber stamped it, it must be foreign for everything Nigerian football.
Na we go dey suffer the shame and heartache when these minnows come screw us for our own field, or anywhere.
Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
All I am saying is if you can’t identify where the problem is, you’ll never find a solution.mcal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:07 am...well let us then settle and continue on with foreign-whatever, coach players.Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:55 amSo why not let’s do what I’ve suggested and use the ‘stronger’, ‘hungry’, ajepaki local players? Let them show all these spoilt ajebota ‘foreign’ prima donnas how it is done.mcal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:28 pm...like it was noted earlier here, Lesotho don't even have a football club that can compete on the continent much less beat a Nigerian club. So why would their no-name club minnows give our European based super stars a torrid time, scoring first too. It's not like we scored and scored, and they score a consolation goal.Damunk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:23 pmYou seem so preoccupied with this local vs foreign players fallacy.mcal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:50 pm...another thing is, these are players understand their team mates (at club level), at SE the players don't understand each other even when they pretend to.Dammy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:37 pmHe was injured in the earlier part of the season and has only played in Luton’s last 3 matches and played the full 90 minutes in the last two matches. His presence has stabilised the Luton Town defence and he’s much better than Bassey, who plays in the same leagueLolly wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:00 pm
It takes more than two matches to fully assess a player. The same Luton has been chopping goals before their last two games.
This is how we start to call players world class after a couple of games. Boniface, Moffi, Orban are typical examples. Very average players who flatter to deceive.
2 or 3 days together doesn't gel a team, especially when they are foreign based looking to show off what they brought back from abroad to hungry folks at home.
Note, you saw how that local base goalie was snubbed at the training facility gate, if na a foreign based player no be siren and police go dey wail all the way in.
It makes no sense.
Why don’t we just load up the bulk of our ‘hungry’ CHAN team if it was so straightforward?
Stick Osimhen and Boni up front and leave the rest to God.
Oh wait!……
Go see how the USA dealt with their Caribbean minnow T&T yesterday.
After all, on the African continent there is ample evidence that our local players, clubs and our all-conquering CHAN team are more likely to deliver, right?
Right?
You no answer?
My brother, there’s obviously an illness, but your diagnosis has no basis.
It’s like a doctor telling Chukwuolu that his diabetes is caused by him eating mashed potato instead of pounded yam.
After all the former nfa mugu chief have strongly rubber stamped it, it must be foreign for everything Nigerian football.
Na we go dey suffer the shame and heartache when these minnows come screw us for our own field, or anywhere.
You are running with a foreign vs local mindset.
There’s no evidence that is where the problem is.
One word: CHAN.
What is the problem there? No foreign-borns inside.
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
DamunkDamunk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:15 pmAll I am saying is if you can’t identify where the problem is, you’ll never find a solution.mcal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:07 am...well let us then settle and continue on with foreign-whatever, coach players.Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:55 amSo why not let’s do what I’ve suggested and use the ‘stronger’, ‘hungry’, ajepaki local players? Let them show all these spoilt ajebota ‘foreign’ prima donnas how it is done.mcal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:28 pm...like it was noted earlier here, Lesotho don't even have a football club that can compete on the continent much less beat a Nigerian club. So why would their no-name club minnows give our European based super stars a torrid time, scoring first too. It's not like we scored and scored, and they score a consolation goal.Damunk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:23 pmYou seem so preoccupied with this local vs foreign players fallacy.mcal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:50 pm...another thing is, these are players understand their team mates (at club level), at SE the players don't understand each other even when they pretend to.Dammy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:37 pm
He was injured in the earlier part of the season and has only played in Luton’s last 3 matches and played the full 90 minutes in the last two matches. His presence has stabilised the Luton Town defence and he’s much better than Bassey, who plays in the same league
2 or 3 days together doesn't gel a team, especially when they are foreign based looking to show off what they brought back from abroad to hungry folks at home.
Note, you saw how that local base goalie was snubbed at the training facility gate, if na a foreign based player no be siren and police go dey wail all the way in.
It makes no sense.
Why don’t we just load up the bulk of our ‘hungry’ CHAN team if it was so straightforward?
Stick Osimhen and Boni up front and leave the rest to God.
Oh wait!……
Go see how the USA dealt with their Caribbean minnow T&T yesterday.
After all, on the African continent there is ample evidence that our local players, clubs and our all-conquering CHAN team are more likely to deliver, right?
Right?
You no answer?
My brother, there’s obviously an illness, but your diagnosis has no basis.
It’s like a doctor telling Chukwuolu that his diabetes is caused by him eating mashed potato instead of pounded yam.
After all the former nfa mugu chief have strongly rubber stamped it, it must be foreign for everything Nigerian football.
Na we go dey suffer the shame and heartache when these minnows come screw us for our own field, or anywhere.
You are running with a foreign vs local mindset.
There’s no evidence that is where the problem is.
One word: CHAN.
What is the problem there? No foreign-borns inside.
Is that what he stated or your interpretation? Are you not concerned that we used the hyped Euro players against boys who are from clubs that cannot compete with our local clubs and we still failed? Are you not concerned? What is your solution given that scenario , beyond the local v foreign as you put it. What is your solution?
I ask for solution that is effective and not merely call up Foreign based and hope African opposition will lay down in defeat. We already know it does not work that way.
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
So you are calling not to “merely” call up foreign-based players to address the problem?Enugu II wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:05 pmDamunkDamunk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:15 pmAll I am saying is if you can’t identify where the problem is, you’ll never find a solution.mcal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:07 am...well let us then settle and continue on with foreign-whatever, coach players.Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:55 amSo why not let’s do what I’ve suggested and use the ‘stronger’, ‘hungry’, ajepaki local players? Let them show all these spoilt ajebota ‘foreign’ prima donnas how it is done.mcal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:28 pm...like it was noted earlier here, Lesotho don't even have a football club that can compete on the continent much less beat a Nigerian club. So why would their no-name club minnows give our European based super stars a torrid time, scoring first too. It's not like we scored and scored, and they score a consolation goal.Damunk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:23 pmYou seem so preoccupied with this local vs foreign players fallacy.mcal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:50 pm ...another thing is, these are players understand their team mates (at club level), at SE the players don't understand each other even when they pretend to.
2 or 3 days together doesn't gel a team, especially when they are foreign based looking to show off what they brought back from abroad to hungry folks at home.
Note, you saw how that local base goalie was snubbed at the training facility gate, if na a foreign based player no be siren and police go dey wail all the way in.
It makes no sense.
Why don’t we just load up the bulk of our ‘hungry’ CHAN team if it was so straightforward?
Stick Osimhen and Boni up front and leave the rest to God.
Oh wait!……
Go see how the USA dealt with their Caribbean minnow T&T yesterday.
After all, on the African continent there is ample evidence that our local players, clubs and our all-conquering CHAN team are more likely to deliver, right?
Right?
You no answer?
My brother, there’s obviously an illness, but your diagnosis has no basis.
It’s like a doctor telling Chukwuolu that his diabetes is caused by him eating mashed potato instead of pounded yam.
After all the former nfa mugu chief have strongly rubber stamped it, it must be foreign for everything Nigerian football.
Na we go dey suffer the shame and heartache when these minnows come screw us for our own field, or anywhere.
You are running with a foreign vs local mindset.
There’s no evidence that is where the problem is.
One word: CHAN.
What is the problem there? No foreign-borns inside.
Is that what he stated or your interpretation? Are you not concerned that we used the hyped Euro players against boys who are from clubs that cannot compete with our local clubs and we still failed? Are you not concerned? What is your solution given that scenario , beyond the local v foreign as you put it. What is your solution?
I ask for solution that is effective and not merely call up Foreign based and hope African opposition will lay down in defeat. We already know it does not work that way.
What exactly is the identified problem and what does that statement even mean?
What is “merely” about the way SE players are invited?
Everyone is looking to identify the problem in order to find the solution.
What is your solution, other than to “not merely call up FBs”?
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Re: Who was at fault for that goal ?
Unfortunately, my solution has never been to merely call up locally-based players nor has it ever been to exclude them.Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:56 pmSo you are calling not to “merely” call up foreign-based players to address the problem?Enugu II wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:05 pmDamunkDamunk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:15 pmAll I am saying is if you can’t identify where the problem is, you’ll never find a solution.mcal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:07 am...well let us then settle and continue on with foreign-whatever, coach players.Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:55 amSo why not let’s do what I’ve suggested and use the ‘stronger’, ‘hungry’, ajepaki local players? Let them show all these spoilt ajebota ‘foreign’ prima donnas how it is done.mcal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:28 pm...like it was noted earlier here, Lesotho don't even have a football club that can compete on the continent much less beat a Nigerian club. So why would their no-name club minnows give our European based super stars a torrid time, scoring first too. It's not like we scored and scored, and they score a consolation goal.
Go see how the USA dealt with their Caribbean minnow T&T yesterday.
After all, on the African continent there is ample evidence that our local players, clubs and our all-conquering CHAN team are more likely to deliver, right?
Right?
You no answer?
My brother, there’s obviously an illness, but your diagnosis has no basis.
It’s like a doctor telling Chukwuolu that his diabetes is caused by him eating mashed potato instead of pounded yam.
After all the former nfa mugu chief have strongly rubber stamped it, it must be foreign for everything Nigerian football.
Na we go dey suffer the shame and heartache when these minnows come screw us for our own field, or anywhere.
You are running with a foreign vs local mindset.
There’s no evidence that is where the problem is.
One word: CHAN.
What is the problem there? No foreign-borns inside.
Is that what he stated or your interpretation? Are you not concerned that we used the hyped Euro players against boys who are from clubs that cannot compete with our local clubs and we still failed? Are you not concerned? What is your solution given that scenario , beyond the local v foreign as you put it. What is your solution?
I ask for solution that is effective and not merely call up Foreign based and hope African opposition will lay down in defeat. We already know it does not work that way.
What exactly is the identified problem and what does that statement even mean?
What is “merely” about the way SE players are invited?
Everyone is looking to identify the problem in order to find the solution.
What is your solution, other than to “not merely call up FBs”?
What is your solution?
The difficulties of statistical thinking describes a puzzling limitation of our mind: our excessive confidence in what we believe we know, and our apparent inability to acknowledge the full extent of our ignorance and the uncertainty of the world we live in. We are prone to overestimate how much we understand about the world and to underestimate the role of chance in events -- Daniel Kahneman (2011), Winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics
Winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics
Winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics