Cybereagles

The decay has sipped into every aspect of society. When your president is a well-known drug baron, this is the result.

This is embarrassing smh

I don’t think this problem started today. Did we even have a referee from Nigerian in the last AFCON?

packerland wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:34 pm I don’t think this problem started today. Did we even have a referee from Nigerian in the last AFCON?

Nor be today at all at all.
All these factors add up, but people still think we have SE-ready players yanfu-yanfu running around in the NPFL.
Our problem plenti.
I don’t we have had credible refs since the days of the great Linus Mbah and Festus Okubule, which was in the 80s/90s.

Damunk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:49 pm

packerland wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:34 pm I don’t think this problem started today. Did we even have a referee from Nigerian in the last AFCON?

Nor be today at all at all.
All these factors add up, but people still think we have SE-ready players yanfu-yanfu running around in the NPFL.
Our problem plenti.
I don’t we have had credible refs since the days of the great Linus Mbah and Festus Okubule, which was in the 80s/90s.

Musa, Ighalo and Oliseh recently called for home based players in the SE.
When they were in the team, they didn’t call for the home based but now they want to destabilise the team with their agenda.
They should rather focus on fixing the NPFL at all levels instead of applying makeup to cover up the problems of the league

...corruption is endemic like dem say.

Dammy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:35 pmMusa, Ighalo and Oliseh recently called for home based players in the SE.
When they were in the team, they didn’t call for the home based but now they want to destabilise the team with their agenda.
They should rather focus on fixing the NPFL at all levels instead of applying makeup to cover up the problems of the league

Abegi what are you blathering on about?
Oliseh capped several home-based players as SE coach, which is literally putting his job where his mouth is! SMH

Meanwhile, not exactly sure what CAF not listing Nigerian referees for next year’s AFCON has to do with the capabilities of INDIVIDUAL home-based players. Destabilize ko, dissentry ni!

Na today? Useless country full of mumu people, and you expect representation in an arena where making good judgement is expected?

There is no excuse for not picking Nigerian referee unless there's more to it than meets the eye. If it's corruption look no further than one of the main CAF referees Ibrahim Chaibou
Who went to straight into an RSA bank to cash his loot after getting a payout for throwing a match. We also saw him throw several other matches with dubious calls. If it's competency, then we see so many rubbish referees AFcon a after AFcon. This edition will be no different.

Gotti wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:55 am

Dammy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:35 pmMusa, Ighalo and Oliseh recently called for home based players in the SE.
When they were in the team, they didn’t call for the home based but now they want to destabilise the team with their agenda.
They should rather focus on fixing the NPFL at all levels instead of applying makeup to cover up the problems of the league

Abegi what are you blathering on about?
Oliseh capped several home-based players as SE coach, which is literally putting his job where his mouth is! SMH

Meanwhile, not exactly sure what CAF not listing Nigerian referees for next year’s AFCON has to do with the capabilities of INDIVIDUAL home-based players. Destabilize ko, dissentry ni!

Abeg keep quiet if you have nothing sensible to add. Oliseh that dropped Mikel for a home based player that has since gone into oblivion just to prove a stupid point to people like you!

Dammy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:19 am

Gotti wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:55 am

Dammy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:35 pmMusa, Ighalo and Oliseh recently called for home based players in the SE.
When they were in the team, they didn’t call for the home based but now they want to destabilise the team with their agenda.
They should rather focus on fixing the NPFL at all levels instead of applying makeup to cover up the problems of the league

Abegi what are you blathering on about?
Oliseh capped several home-based players as SE coach, which is literally putting his job where his mouth is! SMH

Meanwhile, not exactly sure what CAF not listing Nigerian referees for next year’s AFCON has to do with the capabilities of INDIVIDUAL home-based players. Destabilize ko, dissentry ni!

Abeg keep quiet if you have nothing sensible to add. Oliseh that dropped Mikel for a home based player that has since gone into oblivion just to prove a stupid point to people like you!

But, Dammy, read your mentioning of those three and then your claim. That is what Gotti responds to. Oliseh worked closely with homebased players. I also add, that Musa was first called up to SE while he was homebased and after he became foreign- based , a few years ago, he went back and played for Pillars. Don't you think he has an idea what he is talking about compared to CE guys who only watch European league? Both are far more credible than any of you CE guys who only watch European football and have little or no inkling about home based football and footballers.

BTW, that focus on European football limits the knowledge that some CE have of football and the abilities of labor around it. Think for a moment. No one here believes there is talent in Nigeria. Yet, 17 year olds from that Nigeria suddenly play for the Nigerian u17 squad and appear on TV and the same guys start to promote the player for SE but yet they forget there are talents like that, may be better, already in the NPFL! Ridiculous. Dat one that Television blindfold.

They are not good enough. Period!

Lolly wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:06 pm They are not good enough. Period!

Based on what evidence do you say this, and have you observed referees in other leagues ?

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 12:02 pm

Dammy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:19 am

Gotti wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:55 am

Dammy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:35 pmMusa, Ighalo and Oliseh recently called for home based players in the SE.
When they were in the team, they didn’t call for the home based but now they want to destabilise the team with their agenda.
They should rather focus on fixing the NPFL at all levels instead of applying makeup to cover up the problems of the league

Abegi what are you blathering on about?
Oliseh capped several home-based players as SE coach, which is literally putting his job where his mouth is! SMH

Meanwhile, not exactly sure what CAF not listing Nigerian referees for next year’s AFCON has to do with the capabilities of INDIVIDUAL home-based players. Destabilize ko, dissentry ni!

Abeg keep quiet if you have nothing sensible to add. Oliseh that dropped Mikel for a home based player that has since gone into oblivion just to prove a stupid point to people like you!

But, Dammy, read your mentioning of those three and then your claim. That is what Gotti responds to. Oliseh worked closely with homebased players. I also add, that Musa was first called up to SE while he was homebased and after he became foreign- based , a few years ago, he went back and played for Pillars. Don't you think he has an idea what he is talking about compared to CE guys who only watch European league? Both are far more credible than any of you CE guys who only watch European football and have little or no inkling about home based football and footballers.

BTW, that focus on European football limits the knowledge that some CE have of football and the abilities of labor around it. Think for a moment. No one here believes there is talent in Nigeria. Yet, 17 year olds from that Nigeria suddenly play for the Nigerian u17 squad and appear on TV and the same guys start to promote the player for SE but yet they forget there are talents like that, may be better, already in the NPFL! Ridiculous. Dat one that Television blindfold.

Oh God.
Another strawman.
Prof, how many……nah.
Don’t worry.

ANC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:26 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:06 pm They are not good enough. Period!

Based on what evidence do you say this, and have you observed referees in other leagues ?

Do you think there is a conspiracy against Nigerian referees?
Just asking.

ANC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:26 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:06 pm They are not good enough. Period!

Based on what evidence do you say this, and have you observed referees in other leagues ?

ANC

Comparative analysis of refereeing has been provided by me on eaglesetcetera site. The analysis, BTW, is not a subjective one but based on a statistical comparison. Refereeing in Nigeria's top leafue was so off the mean that it was laughable. This was not just comparing leagues in Europe but as I recall it compared a league in Africa and also included another non- European league. The statistical result also compared Nigerian league results and decisions to Nigerian league years ago. It was clear that other issues beyond onfiekd action was influencing results by referees in Nigeria. This was very clear based on statistical comparison.

It looked at probability of home wins, looked at probability of pk awards in last quarter if games and whether a home or away team often benefitted from such awards. All of these were part of that analysis, as I now recall it. Some NRA officials were miffed and I received irate calls but it is what it is.

Damunk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:35 pm

ANC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:26 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:06 pm They are not good enough. Period!

Based on what evidence do you say this, and have you observed referees in other leagues ?

Do you think there is a conspiracy against Nigerian referees?
Just asking.

No I do not. I just do not buy the blanket statement that any group of people "are not good enough".

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:40 pm

ANC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:26 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:06 pm They are not good enough. Period!

Based on what evidence do you say this, and have you observed referees in other leagues ?

ANC

Comparative analysis of refereeing has been provided by me on eaglesetcetera site. The analysis, BTW, is not a subjective one but based on a statistical comparison. Refereeing in Nigeria's top leafue was so off the mean that it was laughable. This was not just comparing leagues in Europe but as I recall it compared a league in Africa and also included another non- European league. The statistical result also compared Nigerian league results and decisions to Nigerian league years ago. It was clear that other issues beyond onfiekd action was influencing results by referees in Nigeria. This was very clear based on statistical comparison.

It looked at probability of home wins, looked at probability of pk awards in last quarter if games and whether a home or away team often benefitted from such awards. All of these were part of that analysis, as I now recall it. Some NRA officials were miffed and I received irate calls but it is what it is.

Ok at least you have some facts to back up the statement.
It is still unfair to not have a single official from a major footballing nation in the tournament.
Even amongst the house of thieves, you can still find an honest man.
That Nigeria is corrupt does not justify the exclusion. I wonder how well many of the enlisted would
perform if they were to practice in Nigeria.

ANC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:55 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:40 pm

ANC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:26 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:06 pm They are not good enough. Period!

Based on what evidence do you say this, and have you observed referees in other leagues ?

ANC

Comparative analysis of refereeing has been provided by me on eaglesetcetera site. The analysis, BTW, is not a subjective one but based on a statistical comparison. Refereeing in Nigeria's top leafue was so off the mean that it was laughable. This was not just comparing leagues in Europe but as I recall it compared a league in Africa and also included another non- European league. The statistical result also compared Nigerian league results and decisions to Nigerian league years ago. It was clear that other issues beyond onfiekd action was influencing results by referees in Nigeria. This was very clear based on statistical comparison.

It looked at probability of home wins, looked at probability of pk awards in last quarter if games and whether a home or away team often benefitted from such awards. All of these were part of that analysis, as I now recall it. Some NRA officials were miffed and I received irate calls but it is what it is.

Ok at least you have some facts to back up the statement.
It is still unfair to not have a single official from a major footballing nation in the tournament.
Even amongst the house of thieves, you can still find an honest man.
That Nigeria is corrupt does not justify the exclusion. I wonder how well many of the enlisted would
perform if they were to practice in Nigeria.

It’ll be unfair to lower the standards just to accommodate Nigerian referees. Have you watched a NPFL that’s not televised on TV? Try to watch a game and you’ll see why. Even the linesman is corrupt. When it’s comes to integrity, Nigeria has a huge problem.

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:04 pm

ANC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:55 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:40 pm

ANC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:26 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:06 pm They are not good enough. Period!

Based on what evidence do you say this, and have you observed referees in other leagues ?

ANC

Comparative analysis of refereeing has been provided by me on eaglesetcetera site. The analysis, BTW, is not a subjective one but based on a statistical comparison. Refereeing in Nigeria's top leafue was so off the mean that it was laughable. This was not just comparing leagues in Europe but as I recall it compared a league in Africa and also included another non- European league. The statistical result also compared Nigerian league results and decisions to Nigerian league years ago. It was clear that other issues beyond onfiekd action was influencing results by referees in Nigeria. This was very clear based on statistical comparison.

It looked at probability of home wins, looked at probability of pk awards in last quarter if games and whether a home or away team often benefitted from such awards. All of these were part of that analysis, as I now recall it. Some NRA officials were miffed and I received irate calls but it is what it is.

Ok at least you have some facts to back up the statement.
It is still unfair to not have a single official from a major footballing nation in the tournament.
Even amongst the house of thieves, you can still find an honest man.
That Nigeria is corrupt does not justify the exclusion. I wonder how well many of the enlisted would
perform if they were to practice in Nigeria.

It’ll be unfair to lower the standards just to accommodate Nigerian referees. Have you watched a NPFL that’s not televised on TV? Try to watch a game and you’ll see why. Even the linesman is corrupt. When it’s comes to integrity, Nigeria has a huge problem.

WTF
Okay o..
Keep shooting yourself on the foot.
Don't complain when they take it further and deny you other opportunities. Don't cry "Issa Hayatou" again.

ANC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:18 pm

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:04 pm

ANC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:55 pm

Enugu II wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:40 pm

ANC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:26 pm

Lolly wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:06 pm They are not good enough. Period!

Based on what evidence do you say this, and have you observed referees in other leagues ?

ANC

Comparative analysis of refereeing has been provided by me on eaglesetcetera site. The analysis, BTW, is not a subjective one but based on a statistical comparison. Refereeing in Nigeria's top leafue was so off the mean that it was laughable. This was not just comparing leagues in Europe but as I recall it compared a league in Africa and also included another non- European league. The statistical result also compared Nigerian league results and decisions to Nigerian league years ago. It was clear that other issues beyond onfiekd action was influencing results by referees in Nigeria. This was very clear based on statistical comparison.

It looked at probability of home wins, looked at probability of pk awards in last quarter if games and whether a home or away team often benefitted from such awards. All of these were part of that analysis, as I now recall it. Some NRA officials were miffed and I received irate calls but it is what it is.

Ok at least you have some facts to back up the statement.
It is still unfair to not have a single official from a major footballing nation in the tournament.
Even amongst the house of thieves, you can still find an honest man.
That Nigeria is corrupt does not justify the exclusion. I wonder how well many of the enlisted would
perform if they were to practice in Nigeria.

It’ll be unfair to lower the standards just to accommodate Nigerian referees. Have you watched a NPFL that’s not televised on TV? Try to watch a game and you’ll see why. Even the linesman is corrupt. When it’s comes to integrity, Nigeria has a huge problem.

WTF
Okay o..
Keep shooting yourself on the foot.
Don't complain when they take it further and deny you other opportunities. Don't cry "Issa Hayatou" again.

You should be more concerned with the information Enugu II provided.
It’s something we all sensed but didn’t have the hard evidence.
Like Kongi said, we shouldn’t insist on a Nigerian ‘quota’ only to go and stink up the joint.

Who is going to explain to those nations on the receiving end of terrible refereeing decisions?
If our refs can’t clean up their act, then tough.