Our Osimhen

[danfo driver]

[Sleaky72]

I don’t understand some people who like fighting shadows.
Osimhen is giving “world class” effort, however, it’s not a crime
nor a taboo to point out that strikers are judged by their goal scoring returns.
It makes me laugh when the same people who mock Gabriel Jesus for his
work rate and low goal return, now attack others for saying that Vic is giving us a heavy work load but has yet to give us clinical finishing.

This is the problem with insecure people who can’t handle opposing points of view.
There isn’t one person here who doesn’t love Vic and the work he’s doing on the field.
Saying he also needs to add a clinical finishing edge to his work isn’t a crime, it’s an informed observation. It’s not done to diminish him as an individual but rather point out an obvious thing he needs to add to his game to reach the next level.

Anyway big props to the lad. He led the line with the heart of a lion.
My only worry for him is how the Napoli fans will receive him after hearing
he will be leaving at the end of the season.
Will be watching this space closely.

He has 21 goals in 31 games for Nigeria…

A couple misses and people are acting like his goal rate is similar to Weghorst or something.

Chief I’m trying to get your drift here.
Everyone loves Osimhen and are all desperate for him and the team to do well.

But facts don’t care about feelings.
In this tournament he has done everything excellently except put the ball in the net, which is what, and if you ask him, he’d readily agree … is what is expected of a striker of his calibre.

Pointing out that your star striker is doing everything excellently but we’d love for him to score more than one goal in four games is not the crime of treason for goodness sakes!!

People cmon!

[danfo driver]

Even CAF no believe sey na human being.

[Enyi]

I don’t understand some people who like fighting shadows.
Osimhen is giving “world class” effort, however, it’s not a crime
nor a taboo to point out that strikers are judged by their goal scoring returns.
It makes me laugh when the same people who mock Gabriel Jesus for his
work rate and low goal return, now attack others for saying that Vic is giving us a heavy work load but has yet to give us clinical finishing.

This is the problem with insecure people who can’t handle opposing points of view.
There isn’t one person here who doesn’t love Vic and the work he’s doing on the field.
Saying he also needs to add a clinical finishing edge to his work isn’t a crime, it’s an informed observation. It’s not done to diminish him as an individual but rather point out an obvious thing he needs to add to his game to reach the next level.

Anyway big props to the lad. He led the line with the heart of a lion.
My only worry for him is how the Napoli fans will receive him after hearing
he will be leaving at the end of the season.
Will be watching this space closely.

He has 21 goals in 31 games for Nigeria…

A couple misses and people are acting like his goal rate is similar to Weghorst or something.

Chief I’m trying to get your drift here.
Everyone loves Osimhen and are all desperate for him and the team to do well.

But facts don’t care about feelings.
In this tournament he has done everything excellently except put the ball in the net, which is what, and if you ask him, he’d readily agree … is what is expected of a striker of his calibre.

Pointing out that your star striker is doing everything excellently but we’d love for him to score more than one goal in four games is not the crime of treason for goodness sakes!!

People cmon!

[Field Marshall Ogolo]

I don't think I have ever seen a player quite like him. I have said this before, I wouldn't swap him for any player not called Mbape. He is a better all round player than Haaland.

I wonder where he is from.

[theDunamis]

Chief I’m trying to get your drift here.
Everyone loves Osimhen and are all desperate for him and the team to do well.

But facts don’t care about feelings.
In this tournament he has done everything excellently except put the ball in the net, which is what, and if you ask him, he’d readily agree … is what is expected of a striker of his calibre.

Pointing out that your star striker is doing everything excellently but we’d love for him to score more than one goal in four games is not the crime of treason for goodness sakes!!

People cmon!

What is expected of a striker of his caliber is to help his team win. That is number 1, number 2, and number 3 on the priority list. If he does that by scoring himself, or does that by assisting, or does that by running down every blade of grass around the opposing defense or does that by doing whatever it takes within the rectangular area of the battlefield, that is what is expected of him first and foremost.

[Dammy]

Osimhen is playing exactly the same way he played last season when leading Napoli to the Serie A title.
An Italian journalist accused him before AFCON of focusing his attention on the tournament than on Napoli

[bushboy]

Chief I’m trying to get your drift here.
Everyone loves Osimhen and are all desperate for him and the team to do well.

But facts don’t care about feelings.
In this tournament he has done everything excellently except put the ball in the net, which is what, and if you ask him, he’d readily agree … is what is expected of a striker of his calibre.

Pointing out that your star striker is doing everything excellently but we’d love for him to score more than one goal in four games is not the crime of treason for goodness sakes!!

People cmon!

What is expected of a striker of his caliber is to help his team win. That is number 1, number 2, and number 3 on the priority list. If he does that by scoring himself, or does that by assisting, or does that by running down every blade of grass around the opposing defense or does that by doing whatever it takes within the rectangular area of the battlefield, that is what is expected of him first and foremost.

Best thing a STRIKER can do to "help his team win" is to score goals. Anything else na bonus.

[GG of G]

A lot of the folks who are saying rubbish have never played football at a decent level

[theDunamis]

Best thing a STRIKER can do to "help his team win" is to score goals. Anything else na bonus.

Utter rubbish. That shows why folks like you can never understand what it means that football is a team game. Again, the first GOAL (pun very and loudly intended) of a striker is to help his team win. If that situationally means pulling defenders to himself and out of position to create space for another TEAM member to score, then a good striker will do that. And if that situationally means dropping deep to help defend, then he will do that too. The constant is helping the team win. The variables are scoring himself, directly assisting teammates to score, indirectly assisting by creating space for teammates to score, dropping deep to help defend, etc.

Osimhen -- the striker -- was recognized by those who understand the game (including Cameroonian fans) as the top contributor to the SE's win against Cameroon despite not scoring a goal. One day you will understand what the word "team" means.

[maceo4]

Chief I’m trying to get your drift here.
Everyone loves Osimhen and are all desperate for him and the team to do well.

But facts don’t care about feelings.
In this tournament he has done everything excellently except put the ball in the net, which is what, and if you ask him, he’d readily agree … is what is expected of a striker of his calibre.

Pointing out that your star striker is doing everything excellently but we’d love for him to score more than one goal in four games is not the crime of treason for goodness sakes!!

People cmon!

What is expected of a striker of his caliber is to help his team win. That is number 1, number 2, and number 3 on the priority list. If he does that by scoring himself, or does that by assisting, or does that by running down every blade of grass around the opposing defense or does that by doing whatever it takes within the rectangular area of the battlefield, that is what is expected of him first and foremost.

Best thing a STRIKER can do to "help his team win" is to score goals. Anything else na bonus.

All strikers go through dry spells, me I prefer the ones where during their dry spells are not -1s on the field.

[Damunk]

Chief I’m trying to get your drift here.
Everyone loves Osimhen and are all desperate for him and the team to do well.

But facts don’t care about feelings.
In this tournament he has done everything excellently except put the ball in the net, which is what, and if you ask him, he’d readily agree … is what is expected of a striker of his calibre.

Pointing out that your star striker is doing everything excellently but we’d love for him to score more than one goal in four games is not the crime of treason for goodness sakes!!

People cmon!

What is expected of a striker of his caliber is to help his team win. That is number 1, number 2, and number 3 on the priority list. If he does that by scoring himself, or does that by assisting, or does that by running down every blade of grass around the opposing defense or does that by doing whatever it takes within the rectangular area of the battlefield, that is what is expected of him first and foremost.

Best thing a STRIKER can do to "help his team win" is to score goals. Anything else na bonus.

All strikers go through dry spells, me I prefer the ones where during their dry spells are not -1s on the field.

Osimhen is just Superman.
End of.
How he refused to go down after he stole that ball from the Cameroonian defender to lay on our first goal was just phenomenal. That was just unbelievable speed, strength, balance, composure and decision making all rolled into one in a couple of crucial seconds.
Even the sequence of passes that led to Aina’s big miss was started by Osimhen.

The guy is something else.
He has already elevated his status even more with his performance at this AFCON, because no one can say he is bullying oyibos with strength and speed.
In Africa, strength and speed can only get you so far.

[bushboy]

Best thing a STRIKER can do to "help his team win" is to score goals. Anything else na bonus.

Utter rubbish. That shows why folks like you can never understand what it means that football is a team game. Again, the first GOAL (pun very and loudly intended) of a striker is to help his team win. If that situationally means pulling defenders to himself and out of position to create space for another TEAM member to score, then a good striker will do that. And if that situationally means dropping deep to help defend, then he will do that too. The constant is helping the team win. The variables are scoring himself, directly assisting teammates to score, indirectly assisting by creating space for teammates to score, dropping deep to help defend, etc.

Osimhen -- the striker -- was recognized by those who understand the game (including Cameroonian fans) as the top contributor to the SE's win against Cameroon despite not scoring a goal. One day you will understand what the word "team" means.

Lol...my broda, this is the silliest "argument" ever. Scoring goals is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT MUST HAPPEN TO WIN A GAME. A striker can do all the above things you described, and if no goals result, the very best possible outcome is a 0-0 draw.

But if a "lazy" striker does NONE of those things, but is very clinical and takes his chance to score a goal, the odds that they win that game is increased.

The "lazy" striker doesn't advance alone. His clinical finishing means his TEAM advances, and has a chance to win a trophy.

It's not that difficult. You're just playing dumb to advance Osimhen. The irony is that I think he was brilliant in that game and I said so. I'm simply saying he can't afford to miss the chances he has.

[donadoni]

Oshimen is doing an amazing job so far - anyone with football knowledge will understand this. In fact he has showed maturity by passing to team mates in cases where he wasn’t best placed instead of selfishly trying to shoot. Yes he missed one or two good chances but the rest were half chances and you must remember that a lot of those chances wouldn’t even have existed if he hadn’t been able to get in position in the first place.

Of course we all hope he scores more, but the bigger goal is to win. Right now he and the team are playing smart tournament football - let’s encourage them to continue

[waka-man]

My view, for what it’s worth, is that he’s had one bad game in this tournament. The game he actually scored in.

Against CIV, he missed chances but game them hell. As he did against GB.

But against Cameroun, he put in one of the legendary performances in an Eagles shirt. If we win this, than performance will go down as the catalyst for this team believing in itself.

I don’t think there’s a big debate though. He himself will have expected to score more.

So both these statements can be and are true:

Osimhen has been THE dominant player of this Afcon
And
He has scored a lot less goals than expected.

[Sleaky72]

Osimhen has been THE dominant player of this Afcon
And
He has scored a lot less goals than expected.

Boom!
Nothing more to add!

[maceo4]

Best thing a STRIKER can do to "help his team win" is to score goals. Anything else na bonus.

Utter rubbish. That shows why folks like you can never understand what it means that football is a team game. Again, the first GOAL (pun very and loudly intended) of a striker is to help his team win. If that situationally means pulling defenders to himself and out of position to create space for another TEAM member to score, then a good striker will do that. And if that situationally means dropping deep to help defend, then he will do that too. The constant is helping the team win. The variables are scoring himself, directly assisting teammates to score, indirectly assisting by creating space for teammates to score, dropping deep to help defend, etc.

Osimhen -- the striker -- was recognized by those who understand the game (including Cameroonian fans) as the top contributor to the SE's win against Cameroon despite not scoring a goal. One day you will understand what the word "team" means.

Lol...my broda, this is the silliest "argument" ever. Scoring goals is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT MUST HAPPEN TO WIN A GAME. A striker can do all the above things you described, and if no goals result, the very best possible outcome is a 0-0 draw.

But if a "lazy" striker does NONE of those things, but is very clinical and takes his chance to score a goal, the odds that they win that game is increased.

The "lazy" striker doesn't advance alone. His clinical finishing means his TEAM advances, and has a chance to win a trophy.

It's not that difficult. You're just playing dumb to advance Osimhen. The irony is that I think he was brilliant in that game and I said so. I'm simply saying he can't afford to miss the chances he has.

Vic didn’t really have any chances vs Cameroon, but he created for others even though his chance didn’t come. The lazy striker would not have created for others and we would have lost…He also plays a BIG role in our defensive solidity by first defending from the front. Then on set pieces he is at the front post and uses his leap to clear most of the balls sent in then leads the counter from there. He drops into midfield and presses and wins balls and starts counters. You are just ignoring all the incredible things Vic brings to the team as a whole even when he’s not scoring.

[theDunamis]

Lol...my broda, this is the silliest "argument" ever. Scoring goals is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT MUST HAPPEN TO WIN A GAME. A striker can do all the above things you described, and if no goals result, the very best possible outcome is a 0-0 draw.

But if a "lazy" striker does NONE of those things, but is very clinical and takes his chance to score a goal, the odds that they win that game is increased.

The "lazy" striker doesn't advance alone. His clinical finishing means his TEAM advances, and has a chance to win a trophy.

It's not that difficult. You're just playing dumb to advance Osimhen. The irony is that I think he was brilliant in that game and I said so. I'm simply saying he can't afford to miss the chances he has.

Reading and comprehension deficit. I have made the point again and again that a striker need not be the one to score and you have read and comprehended that as "if no goals result". As far as strawman arguments go, yours is definitely the most idiotic I have read on this forum. So, I have to ask, and I ask this quite frankly and honestly, are you just innocently dumb or are you willfully intellectually dishonest?

Either is a terrible ailment but one is definitely more disturbing.

[bushboy]

Lol...my broda, this is the silliest "argument" ever. Scoring goals is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT MUST HAPPEN TO WIN A GAME. A striker can do all the above things you described, and if no goals result, the very best possible outcome is a 0-0 draw.

But if a "lazy" striker does NONE of those things, but is very clinical and takes his chance to score a goal, the odds that they win that game is increased.

The "lazy" striker doesn't advance alone. His clinical finishing means his TEAM advances, and has a chance to win a trophy.

It's not that difficult. You're just playing dumb to advance Osimhen. The irony is that I think he was brilliant in that game and I said so. I'm simply saying he can't afford to miss the chances he has.

Reading and comprehension deficit. I have made the point again and again that a striker need not be the one to score and you have read and comprehended that as "if no goals result". As far as strawman arguments go, yours is definitely the most idiotic I have read on this forum. So, I have to ask, and I ask this quite frankly and honestly, are you just innocently dumb or are you willfully intellectually dishonest?

Either is a terrible ailment but one is definitely more disturbing.

No yawa. I don hear.

[kawawa]

Osimhen has been THE dominant player of this Afcon
And
He has scored a lot less goals than expected.

Boom!
Nothing more to add!

Well said. Quite sure Vic knows he has not scored as much but tournament is not over. I think he comes through with goals if we keep going

[deanotito]

Lol...my broda, this is the silliest "argument" ever. Scoring goals is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT MUST HAPPEN TO WIN A GAME. A striker can do all the above things you described, and if no goals result, the very best possible outcome is a 0-0 draw.

But if a "lazy" striker does NONE of those things, but is very clinical and takes his chance to score a goal, the odds that they win that game is increased.

The "lazy" striker doesn't advance alone. His clinical finishing means his TEAM advances, and has a chance to win a trophy.

It's not that difficult. You're just playing dumb to advance Osimhen. The irony is that I think he was brilliant in that game and I said so. I'm simply saying he can't afford to miss the chances he has.

Reading and comprehension deficit. I have made the point again and again that a striker need not be the one to score and you have read and comprehended that as "if no goals result". As far as strawman arguments go, yours is definitely the most idiotic I have read on this forum. So, I have to ask, and I ask this quite frankly and honestly, are you just innocently dumb or are you willfully intellectually dishonest?

Either is a terrible ailment but one is definitely more disturbing.

Brother, we all appreciate Osimhen, but it’s only false 9s that are allowed the luxury of not scoring. Osimhen, best we know, is not and has never been deployed as a false 9.

We love him. Appreciate him. But let’s not redefine what a 9 is just to win an argument

As a Nigerian, I will take victory anyhow we get it. But a 9 is supposed to score. That’s his specialty. Many players can work for you.

[waka-man]

Lol...my broda, this is the silliest "argument" ever. Scoring goals is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT MUST HAPPEN TO WIN A GAME. A striker can do all the above things you described, and if no goals result, the very best possible outcome is a 0-0 draw.

But if a "lazy" striker does NONE of those things, but is very clinical and takes his chance to score a goal, the odds that they win that game is increased.

The "lazy" striker doesn't advance alone. His clinical finishing means his TEAM advances, and has a chance to win a trophy.

It's not that difficult. You're just playing dumb to advance Osimhen. The irony is that I think he was brilliant in that game and I said so. I'm simply saying he can't afford to miss the chances he has.

Reading and comprehension deficit. I have made the point again and again that a striker need not be the one to score and you have read and comprehended that as "if no goals result". As far as strawman arguments go, yours is definitely the most idiotic I have read on this forum. So, I have to ask, and I ask this quite frankly and honestly, are you just innocently dumb or are you willfully intellectually dishonest?

Either is a terrible ailment but one is definitely more disturbing.

Brother, we all appreciate Osimhen, but it’s only false 9s that are allowed the luxury of not scoring. Osimhen, best we know, is not and has never been deployed as a false 9.

We love him. Appreciate him. But let’s not redefine what a 9 is just to win an argument

As a Nigerian, I will take victory anyhow we get it. But a 9 is supposed to score. That’s his specialty. Many players can work for you.

Umm, he definitely played in a much deeper role against Cameroon with Lookman and the full backs frequently ahead of him. Not quite a false 9 because he still needed to occupy the full backs but he often drifted into deep areas and a it worked well. It wreaked havoc on the CMR backline’s shape and left spaces for Lookman in particular. Our second goals stemmed from this.

[deanotito]

Lol...my broda, this is the silliest "argument" ever. Scoring goals is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT MUST HAPPEN TO WIN A GAME. A striker can do all the above things you described, and if no goals result, the very best possible outcome is a 0-0 draw.

But if a "lazy" striker does NONE of those things, but is very clinical and takes his chance to score a goal, the odds that they win that game is increased.

The "lazy" striker doesn't advance alone. His clinical finishing means his TEAM advances, and has a chance to win a trophy.

It's not that difficult. You're just playing dumb to advance Osimhen. The irony is that I think he was brilliant in that game and I said so. I'm simply saying he can't afford to miss the chances he has.

Reading and comprehension deficit. I have made the point again and again that a striker need not be the one to score and you have read and comprehended that as "if no goals result". As far as strawman arguments go, yours is definitely the most idiotic I have read on this forum. So, I have to ask, and I ask this quite frankly and honestly, are you just innocently dumb or are you willfully intellectually dishonest?

Either is a terrible ailment but one is definitely more disturbing.

Brother, we all appreciate Osimhen, but it’s only false 9s that are allowed the luxury of not scoring. Osimhen, best we know, is not and has never been deployed as a false 9.

We love him. Appreciate him. But let’s not redefine what a 9 is just to win an argument

As a Nigerian, I will take victory anyhow we get it. But a 9 is supposed to score. That’s his specialty. Many players can work for you.

Umm, he definitely played in a much deeper role against Cameroon with Lookman and the full backs frequently ahead of him. Not quite a false 9 because he still needed to occupy the full backs but he often drifted into deep areas and a it worked well. It wreaked havoc on the CMR backline’s shape and left spaces for Lookman in particular. Our second goals stemmed from this.

All this “not quite a false 9” talk…I don’t know what you mean. By design, in Peseiro’s system, Lookman and Simon are supposed to provide a lot of midfield and defense support. There is no way that in addition to that, Lookman is also supposed to be the target man.

Is Osimhen a 9? Yes. Then his primary responsibility is to score.

Those saying his primary responsibility is to “help the team” are just trying to bend over backwards to argue. If you see Nwabali running out for every corner trying to help his team score, will you be fine with it? Since he’s “helping” his team?