So good players exist in NPFL?

[txj]

Nwabali left the NPFL in 2022. He was here all this while but no one looked his way. Now a year after going to SA, we now discover him. Okay oo

Nwabili made his SE debut while still in the NPFL in 2021 (vs Mexico)…

He still kept getting overlooked even when we suffered through a goalkeeping crisis for years.

But he is precisely overlooked based on the thinking shared here by Damunk -- they cannot be good until they leave the NPFL. In my view that really is a shame. If Nigeria seriously scouts the NPFL, there will be periodically one or two who can help the team. Take a look at this AFCON, and note several players who compete on same level as NPFL players. Those are not exactly being overwhelmed by our SE. Are they?

Care to give us examples?

Txj

I guess that you do not realize that several of those South African players compete for CAF clubs competition where NPFL players also may compete. They are not in Europe. Yet they challenged Super Eagles. Further, that point is not aberrant. We note that when Nigeria played Lesotho, Burundi, etc. Those are your examples. If you are following, it means that it is not that one or two NPFL players cannot play at the same level as platers from South Africa, Lesotho etc.. It is about opportunity. Nwabali just barely left NPFL and would you say that all we have seen from him in a year he learned in ' Eurooe?' Meanwhile Okoye and Uzoho had been in Europe for donkey years!

What should you learn? If you are paying attention is: it is not the league that matters. IT IS ABOUT QUALITY OF AN INDIVIDUAL PLAYER. While thar quality may be plentiful in the top leagues, it is not ABSENT elsewhere.

The LEVEL OF THE LEAGUE determines the performance level of the player, and thus his quality.

A player in Azerbaijan that is scoring 50 goals and whom YOU would invite to the SE, is not confronting the same competitive resistance or training/conditioning at the same level as one scoring 10 goals in the EPL...

We Nigerians are very funny. We have zero respect for hard work. What is the difference in the training/conditioning that Nwabali is experienced in SA vs the NPFL?

EII, your NPFL clubs cannot pay their players. Many of the players will owe Mama Iyabo for bukateria food consumed in advance of being paid salaries. They play on cowfields. But somehow, EII expects them to be on same level as their contemporaries b/c they have talent....

You continue living in the 1970s mindset. Its fvcking 2024!!!!!!

[truetalk]

Nwabali left the NPFL in 2022. He was here all this while but no one looked his way. Now a year after going to SA, we now discover him. Okay oo

Nwabili made his SE debut while still in the NPFL in 2021 (vs Mexico)…

He still kept getting overlooked even when we suffered through a goalkeeping crisis for years.

But he is precisely overlooked based on the thinking shared here by Damunk -- they cannot be good until they leave the NPFL. In my view that really is a shame. If Nigeria seriously scouts the NPFL, there will be periodically one or two who can help the team. Take a look at this AFCON, and note several players who compete on same level as NPFL players. Those are not exactly being overwhelmed by our SE. Are they?

Care to give us examples?

Txj

I guess that you do not realize that several of those South African players compete for CAF clubs competition where NPFL players also may compete. They are not in Europe. Yet they challenged Super Eagles. Further, that point is not aberrant. We note that when Nigeria played Lesotho, Burundi, etc. Those are your examples. If you are following, it means that it is not that one or two NPFL players cannot play at the same level as platers from South Africa, Lesotho etc.. It is about opportunity. Nwabali just barely left NPFL and would you say that all we have seen from him in a year he learned in ' Eurooe?' Meanwhile Okoye and Uzoho had been in Europe for donkey years!

What should you learn? If you are paying attention is: it is not the league that matters. IT IS ABOUT QUALITY OF AN INDIVIDUAL PLAYER. While thar quality may be plentiful in the top leagues, it is not ABSENT elsewhere.

The LEVEL OF THE LEAGUE determines the performance level of the player, and thus his quality.

A player in Azerbaijan that is scoring 50 goals and whom YOU would invite to the SE, is not confronting the same competitive resistance or training/conditioning at the same level as one scoring 10 goals in the EPL...

We Nigerians are very funny. We have zero respect for hard work. What is the difference in the training/conditioning that Nwabali is experienced in SA vs the NPFL?

EII, your NPFL clubs cannot pay their players. Many of the players will owe Mama Iyabo for bukateria food consumed in advance of being paid salaries. They play on cowfields. But somehow, EII expects them to be on same level as their contemporaries b/c they have talent....

You continue living in the 1970s mindset. Its fvcking 2024!!!!!!

I'll repost part of Prof's post to make his point.

IT IS ABOUT QUALITY OF AN INDIVIDUAL PLAYER. While that quality may be plentiful in the top leagues, it is not ABSENT elsewhere.

Now, if you're saying that scouting in the NPFL would not be as efficient, due to the expected return, and the focus should be on the top leagues of Europe, that is fine, as long as the talent is available. This is Prof's point as well.

However, when we have obvious areas of concern and mediocrity in the team, and we stick with a benchwarmer from Cyprus, Malta or whereever, because he is not owed by his European club, then we have a problem.

There are a few decent clubs in the NPFL that seem to have decent owners and a plan. Remo and Sporting Lagos, are examples. I'd like to learn a bit more about Doma. Enyimba, despite govenment control has shown some staying power for over two decades.

It can be better and hopefully will be.

[txj]

Nwabili made his SE debut while still in the NPFL in 2021 (vs Mexico)…

He still kept getting overlooked even when we suffered through a goalkeeping crisis for years.

But he is precisely overlooked based on the thinking shared here by Damunk -- they cannot be good until they leave the NPFL. In my view that really is a shame. If Nigeria seriously scouts the NPFL, there will be periodically one or two who can help the team. Take a look at this AFCON, and note several players who compete on same level as NPFL players. Those are not exactly being overwhelmed by our SE. Are they?

Care to give us examples?

Txj

I guess that you do not realize that several of those South African players compete for CAF clubs competition where NPFL players also may compete. They are not in Europe. Yet they challenged Super Eagles. Further, that point is not aberrant. We note that when Nigeria played Lesotho, Burundi, etc. Those are your examples. If you are following, it means that it is not that one or two NPFL players cannot play at the same level as platers from South Africa, Lesotho etc.. It is about opportunity. Nwabali just barely left NPFL and would you say that all we have seen from him in a year he learned in ' Eurooe?' Meanwhile Okoye and Uzoho had been in Europe for donkey years!

What should you learn? If you are paying attention is: it is not the league that matters. IT IS ABOUT QUALITY OF AN INDIVIDUAL PLAYER. While thar quality may be plentiful in the top leagues, it is not ABSENT elsewhere.

The LEVEL OF THE LEAGUE determines the performance level of the player, and thus his quality.

A player in Azerbaijan that is scoring 50 goals and whom YOU would invite to the SE, is not confronting the same competitive resistance or training/conditioning at the same level as one scoring 10 goals in the EPL...

We Nigerians are very funny. We have zero respect for hard work. What is the difference in the training/conditioning that Nwabali is experienced in SA vs the NPFL?

EII, your NPFL clubs cannot pay their players. Many of the players will owe Mama Iyabo for bukateria food consumed in advance of being paid salaries. They play on cowfields. But somehow, EII expects them to be on same level as their contemporaries b/c they have talent....

You continue living in the 1970s mindset. Its fvcking 2024!!!!!!

I'll repost part of Prof's post to make his point.

IT IS ABOUT QUALITY OF AN INDIVIDUAL PLAYER. While that quality may be plentiful in the top leagues, it is not ABSENT elsewhere.

Now, if you're saying that scouting in the NPFL would not be as efficient, due to the expected return, and the focus should be on the top leagues of Europe, that is fine, as long as the talent is available. This is Prof's point as well.

However, when we have obvious areas of concern and mediocrity in the team, and we stick with a benchwarmer from Cyprus, Malta or whereever, because he is not owed by his European club, then we have a problem.

There are a few decent clubs in the NPFL that seem to have decent owners and a plan. Remo and Sporting Lagos, are examples. I'd like to learn a bit more about Doma. Enyimba, despite govenment control has shown some staying power for over two decades.

It can be better and hopefully will be.

Both of you are confusing quality with talent. Talent is not enough
We have ALWAYS had the talent...

There are no decent clubs in the NPFL. Some of them like Remo are making efforts, but its not nearly enough and the overall environment outside their control remains very poor.

[Damunk]

He still kept getting overlooked even when we suffered through a goalkeeping crisis for years.

But he is precisely overlooked based on the thinking shared here by Damunk -- they cannot be good until they leave the NPFL. In my view that really is a shame. If Nigeria seriously scouts the NPFL, there will be periodically one or two who can help the team. Take a look at this AFCON, and note several players who compete on same level as NPFL players. Those are not exactly being overwhelmed by our SE. Are they?

Care to give us examples?

Txj

I guess that you do not realize that several of those South African players compete for CAF clubs competition where NPFL players also may compete. They are not in Europe. Yet they challenged Super Eagles. Further, that point is not aberrant. We note that when Nigeria played Lesotho, Burundi, etc. Those are your examples. If you are following, it means that it is not that one or two NPFL players cannot play at the same level as platers from South Africa, Lesotho etc.. It is about opportunity. Nwabali just barely left NPFL and would you say that all we have seen from him in a year he learned in ' Eurooe?' Meanwhile Okoye and Uzoho had been in Europe for donkey years!

What should you learn? If you are paying attention is: it is not the league that matters. IT IS ABOUT QUALITY OF AN INDIVIDUAL PLAYER. While thar quality may be plentiful in the top leagues, it is not ABSENT elsewhere.

The LEVEL OF THE LEAGUE determines the performance level of the player, and thus his quality.

A player in Azerbaijan that is scoring 50 goals and whom YOU would invite to the SE, is not confronting the same competitive resistance or training/conditioning at the same level as one scoring 10 goals in the EPL...

We Nigerians are very funny. We have zero respect for hard work. What is the difference in the training/conditioning that Nwabali is experienced in SA vs the NPFL?

EII, your NPFL clubs cannot pay their players. Many of the players will owe Mama Iyabo for bukateria food consumed in advance of being paid salaries. They play on cowfields. But somehow, EII expects them to be on same level as their contemporaries b/c they have talent....

You continue living in the 1970s mindset. Its fvcking 2024!!!!!!

I'll repost part of Prof's post to make his point.

IT IS ABOUT QUALITY OF AN INDIVIDUAL PLAYER. While that quality may be plentiful in the top leagues, it is not ABSENT elsewhere.

Now, if you're saying that scouting in the NPFL would not be as efficient, due to the expected return, and the focus should be on the top leagues of Europe, that is fine, as long as the talent is available. This is Prof's point as well.

However, when we have obvious areas of concern and mediocrity in the team, and we stick with a benchwarmer from Cyprus, Malta or whereever, because he is not owed by his European club, then we have a problem.

There are a few decent clubs in the NPFL that seem to have decent owners and a plan. Remo and Sporting Lagos, are examples. I'd like to learn a bit more about Doma. Enyimba, despite govenment control has shown some staying power for over two decades.

It can be better and hopefully will be.

Both of you are confusing quality with talent. Talent is not enough

I don’t think this point has been made less than 100 times on this topic over the years.
Still, people continue to base their argument around it, as if talent is the point in contention.
Our goalkeeping GOAT, Enyeama just yesterday in a video listed all the impediments an NPFL player faces. It’s a scandal. And it’s no fault of the players themselves. Our players are handicapped. Their development is stifled.

Talent is talent and we have it in abundance but it has to be developed.
I dunno what is hard to agree with in that.

[theDunamis]

Both of you are confusing quality with talent. Talent is not enough
We have ALWAYS had the talent...

There are no decent clubs in the NPFL. Some of them like Remo are making efforts, but its not nearly enough and the overall environment outside their control remains very poor.

I believe the highlighted is the main issue. Conflating talent with quality. The former can be there and remain latent or even misused if not intentionally and methodically harnessed and nurtured into the latter. Alas, that is another area where Nigeria's pervasive resource mismanagement comes home to roost.

[highbury]

Look at Van City stating that we have to be strategic after touring the whole of Europe. Pinnick, why are you anti Nigerian?
Let me make this statement: I am 1000% sure that the creative Midfielder we need in our team is right there in sight in the NPFL. He just needs to be immersed with our team.

[Cellular]

I'll repost part of Prof's post to make his point.

IT IS ABOUT QUALITY OF AN INDIVIDUAL PLAYER. While that quality may be plentiful in the top leagues, it is not ABSENT elsewhere.

Now, if you're saying that scouting in the NPFL would not be as efficient, due to the expected return, and the focus should be on the top leagues of Europe, that is fine, as long as the talent is available. This is Prof's point as well.

However, when we have obvious areas of concern and mediocrity in the team, and we stick with a benchwarmer from Cyprus, Malta or whereever, because he is not owed by his European club, then we have a problem.

There are a few decent clubs in the NPFL that seem to have decent owners and a plan. Remo and Sporting Lagos, are examples. I'd like to learn a bit more about Doma. Enyimba, despite govenment control has shown some staying power for over two decades.

It can be better and hopefully will be.

Told Dem!