Is this the best dutch side ever?

[Sir V]

1974 World Cup Team. Neeskens, Krol, Van Hanegam, Jansen, Suubier, Rep, Rijsbergen, Renesbrink, Haan Jongboed, Cruyff.

This extraordinary collection of talented footballers set the world on fire for a few brief weeks in the summer of 1974. They captured the imagination of a generation of fans in a way that no team, before or after, have matched. They played football in a way we hadn't seen before, with skill, strength, intelligence and attitude merged together into a mixture that was uniquely theirs. They didn't actually win the World Cup, heaven knows why, but they created a set of memories that have lasted a generation now, and will continue undimmed for a long while to come.
---Easyweb

[okjazz]

The 1988 team with Van Basten, Rijkaard, Gullit, Koeman, Van Breukelen was the best ever.

[airwolex]

The 1988 team with Van Basten, Rijkaard, Gullit, Koeman, Van Breukelen was the best ever.

Most people who were privileged to see both teams would disagree.

[Gadfly]

U are missing Arrie Haan who is to left of Jongbloed.

[Ayo Akinfe]

Best teams ever:

[1] 1970 Brazilian team
[2] 1974 Dutch team
[3] 2002 Brazilian team
[4] 1988 Dutch team
[5] 1994 Brazilian team
[6] 1990 German team
[7] 1986 Argentine team
[8] 1986 French team
[9] 1982 Italian team
[10] 1990 Italian team

[txj]

Thankx Sir V...
.... for the memories this evokes, both personally and otherwise. A truly extraordinary team, much like Brazil was to be years later in 1982.

[Sir V]

The 1988 team with Van Basten, Rijkaard, Gullit, Koeman, Van Breukelen was the best ever.

My broda,

That 1988 side was a great team, but this side of 1974 will take them drink garri.

[txj]

Best ever DUTCH team....

Best teams ever:

[1] 1970 Brazilian team
[2] 1974 Dutch team
[3] 2002 Brazilian team
[4] 1988 Dutch team
[5] 1994 Brazilian team
[6] 1990 German team
[7] 1986 Argentine team
[8] 1986 French team
[9] 1982 Italian team
[10] 1990 Italian team

[Mudi E]

Best teams ever:

[1] 1970 Brazilian team
[2] 1974 Dutch team
[3] 2002 Brazilian team
[4] 1988 Dutch team
[5] 1994 Brazilian team
[6] 1990 German team
[7] 1986 Argentine team
[8] 1986 French team
[9] 1982 Italian team
[10] 1990 Italian team

That 1970 Brazilian team was helele!!
Who could forget Pele, Zairzinho, Rivelino, Tostao, Carlos Alberto, can't remember the rest.....

[Bomaye]

[quote="Ayo Akinfe"]Best teams ever:

[1] 1970 Brazilian team
[2] 1974 Dutch team
[3] 2002 Brazilian team
[4] 1988 Dutch team
[5] 1994 Brazilian team
[6] 1990 German team
[7] 1986 Argentine team
[8] 1986 French team
[9] 1982 Italian team
[10] 1990 Italian team[/quote]

Ayo:
You intentionally forgot 1982 Brazilian team?

[Toxicarrow]

Best teams ever:

[1] 1970 Brazilian team
[2] 1974 Dutch team
[3] 2002 Brazilian team
[4] 1988 Dutch team
[5] 1994 Brazilian team
[6] 1990 German team
[7] 1986 Argentine team
[8] 1986 French team
[9] 1982 Italian team
[10] 1990 Italian team

Ayo:
You intentionally forgot 1982 Brazilian team?

The 1982 Brazilian team was a great team with a 'basket goalie' !

[Ayo Akinfe]

Ayo:
You intentionally forgot 1982 Brazilian team?

It was not a good team. Once Careca pulled out with injury, it struggled. That Serginiho was just not good enough as a striker.

There were some good players in it like Eder, Zico and Socrates but they were missing Careca. Look at the difference he made in 1986 when he came back.

[Bomaye]

[quote="Ayo Akinfe"][quote="Bomaye"]

Ayo:
You intentionally forgot 1982 Brazilian team?[/quote]

It was not a good team. Once Careca pulled out with injury, it struggled. That Serginiho was just not good enough as a striker.

There were some good players in it like Eder, Zico and Socrates but they were missing Careca. Look at the difference he made in 1986 when he came back.[/quote]

Fair enough to single out the two weak links (Serginho and the golie, Waldeir Perriez). However, that team played, by far, better soccer than most teams in your list.

[amafolas]

Although the 82 Brazilian team played before I was born, i still know this much from watching some of their matches. That guy Serginho is the greatest wastepipe ever. THe way he played at the world cup, he won't be able to make made the Ghana's squad of today even though Ghana lacks attackers. Brazile would have been better off playing one man down.

Two things killed them, a basket goalie and Serginho.

[Gadfly]

The 1988 team with Van Basten, Rijkaard, Gullit, Koeman, Van Breukelen was the best ever.

My broda,

That 1988 side was a great tam, but this side of 1974 will take them drink garri.

IMHO, man for man, the 1988 team was better with the exception of Muhren on the left. lets see:

Breukelen, van Aerle, Rijkaard, Koemen, van Tigglen, Vanenburg, Wouters, Erwin Koemen, Muhren, Gullit, van Basten.

[Mudi E]

Best teams ever:

[1] 1970 Brazilian team
[2] 1974 Dutch team
[3] 2002 Brazilian team
[4] 1988 Dutch team
[5] 1994 Brazilian team
[6] 1990 German team
[7] 1986 Argentine team
[8] 1986 French team
[9] 1982 Italian team
[10] 1990 Italian team

Ayo:
You intentionally forgot 1982 Brazilian team?

The 1982 Brazilian team was a great team with a 'basket goalie' !

.....and a worthless striker in Serginho.

[mastermind]

88.

van basten, guilt and barca's coach. They won their only tournament ever in 88.

[Mudi E]

This current Dutch team of Van Der Vaart, Robbin, Van Nisterooy, Babbel might make noise in this world cup and be ranked as one of the best Dutch team.

[Sir V]

The 1988 team with Van Basten, Rijkaard, Gullit, Koeman, Van Breukelen was the best ever.

My broda,

That 1988 side was a great tam, but this side of 1974 will take them drink garri.

IMHO, man for man, the 1988 team was better with the exception of Muhren on the left. lets see:

Breukelen, van Aerle, Rijkaard, Koemen, van Tigglen, Vanenburg, Wouters, Erwin Koemen, Muhren, Gullit, van Basten.

Please none of those strikers could clean Cruyff's boot.

Line-up for the 1978 World Cup Final against Argentina.
Back: Rep, Jongbloed, Haan, Brandts, Neeskens, Krol.
Front: Jansen, Poortvliet, Willy van de Kerkhof, René van de Kerkhof, Rensenbrink

Line-up for the 1988 European Campionship Final against West Germany.
Back: Marco van Basten, Ronald Koeman, Frank Rijkaard, Erwin Koeman, Ruud Gullit, Hans van Breukelen.
Front: Adri van Tiggelen, Arnold Mühren, Berry van Aerle, Jan Wouters, Gerald Vanenburg.[/b]

[Hard Man]

Minor correction:

(Wim) Rijsbergen; (Rob) Rensenbrink.

I am the proud owner of film from their 2-0 semi-final destruction of Brazil...

1974 World Cup Team. Neesken, Krol, Van Hanegen, Jansen, Suubier, Rep, Ribegen, Renesbrink, Haan Jongboed, Cruff.

This extraordinary collection of talented footballers set the world on fire for a few brief weeks in the summer of 1974. They captured the imagination of a generation of fans in a way that no team, before or after, have matched. They played football in a way we hadn't seen before, with skill, strength, intelligence and attitude merged together into a mixture that was uniquely theirs. They didn't actually win the World Cup, heaven knows why, but they created a set of memories that have lasted a generation now, and will continue undimmed for a long while to come.
---Easyweb

[SUYA]

whose ur daddy? !

Hardman that was a wicked rain ball game and Brazil wore an unusual all blue kit....

[mke1010]

That 1982 Brazilian team played some beautiful soccer. They were not in the same class of the Dutch 1974 or the 1970 Brazil team. However, if they had a half way decent goalie and a replacement for Serginho, they would have destroyed all teams enroute lifting the trophy. (I have never seen any striker fluff chances the way Serginho did.)

Wenger's modern day philosophy was born from Brazil 82.
Arsenal on its best day strives to entertain like that team.

[theYemster]

Ayo:
You intentionally forgot 1982 Brazilian team?

It was not a good team. Once Careca pulled out with injury, it struggled. That Serginiho was just not good enough as a striker.

There were some good players in it like Eder, Zico and Socrates but they were missing Careca. Look at the difference he made in 1986 when he came back.

This wAyo as usual is selective in his reasoning...going by your logic, the 86 Argentina team is not good either cos without Maradona they would've struggled.

The Italian teams of 82 and 90 would've struggled without Paolo Rossi and Salvatore Schillachi respectively.

The 1974 Dutch team would've struggled without Cryuff
The 1994 Brazil team would've struggled without Romario
The 2002 Brazil team would've struggled without Ronaldo
The 1990 German team would've struggled without Mattheus
The 1986 French team would've struggled without Platini
The 1970 Brazil team would've struggled without Pele

If you're selecting your team based on accomplishment then that's cool but the French, Italian and Dutch teams of 86, 90 and 88 respectively didn't win the WC and the so that nullifies that logic.

If you're eliminating the 82 team cos of Serginho then you need to eliminate the 90 Italian team cos of Vialli.

As good as that 88 Dutch team was, I would really hesitate in putting them that high up in the list cos they struggled at the WC, crashing out in the second round without winning one single game.