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Babafad wrote:

Damunk wrote:

Babafad wrote:

Cristao II wrote:I ask again what are we going to do to solve this mess. Continue pointing fingers and using us vs them. We are closer to them than you think.

By pointing fingers, he is in fact DOING something about it, unlike you who seems to be quite content with the status quo.

We have been pointing fingers and whinging for thirty years...or even more.
So are we now expecting a different outcome?

War of attrition in full effect. Those who have ears, let them hear.

Doing something is better than doing nothing. For someone to come out with stuff like - "winning doesn't matter, it's the taking part that counts" (Sir Cristao), that's where our problem really lies.

Comments like that remind me of what my mum says, these day. When ever I call home (Naija) and ask how are things and do you have electricity today. She tends to answer, "whatever the situation is, we are used to it"........and so their "suffering" continues.

Can you imagine the noise and finger pointing that would take place if a country like the UK were to return home from a major event empty handed???

Cristao II wrote:

Babafad wrote:

Cristao II wrote:I ask again what are we going to do to solve this mess. Continue pointing fingers and using us vs them. We are closer to them than you think.

By pointing fingers, he is in fact DOING something about it, unlike you who seems to be quite content with the status quo.

See this London based guy. Sorry big guy - I am in Nigeria and I do do things about it. I talk in church. I talk in fellowships. I talk about it in my company. I challenge those who say things like 'That is the way Nigerians are' & 'Nigeria is a useless country'. I pray about it. I educate people. What do you do except sit your asses in front of a computer and whinge whinge whinge about it!!

As I told him. Criticising is a useless form of doing stuff. If it is not followed by action - it is a waste of time.

Cristao II wrote:

realtrouble wrote:

Cristao II wrote:The problem with Nigeria is obvious with this thread. It is obvious some people's only contribution is to point and call Nigeria a disgrace. Well NEWSFLASH you are part of the problem. What are you doing to solve it?

There you go again with Nigerian are the problem.....please stop this charade.

There are people paid and employed to solve this mess, what is wrong with us calling them out, what is wrong with calling them a utter failure and disgrace. Are you proud of the people running Nigeria sport!

If the minister of sports and government officials believe that they required better professionals to run sports in Nigeria, why don't they do what other private organisation are doing and put government job adverts on the public domain. So that the best qualified people can get the opportunities to make a different.

We are not the problem , we contribute to Nigeria economy and are people of integrity and honesty and like every Nigerian we are disappointed in the Nigerian government continious failure to make a difference in the life of the average Nigerian .

I wonder who form the Nigerian government - isnt it the persons you are referring to as people of integrity and honesty. Integrity and Honesty doesnt automatically mean success in sports. You even use the terms utter failure and disgrace. Kpele. I ask again what are we going to do to solve this mess. Continue pointing fingers and using us vs them. We are closer to them than you think.

Why Nigerians Ridicule Nigeria
Posted: August 13, 2012 - 16:52
By Mohammed Dahiru Aminu

Yesterday someone asked me why Nigerians ridicule Nigeria insomuch that folks have decided to name the now good-for-nothing Nigerian Olympic athletes with such names as “rubber”, “wood” and “plastic” medalists; since they couldn’t win gold, silver or bronze.

The simple answer to that question is that for most Nigerians, Nigeria does not exist. Granted, the physical mien called Nigeria may be practically perceptible, the government that drives Nigeria is apparently anonymous and wanting.

Most Nigerians feel it is not binding upon them to “give back” to a country that they have not “taken” from. Many Nigerians feel they were born in a country that is completely putrid. For example, the paroxysm of angst that frustrates Nigerians due to electricity scarcity in the country has haunted our national psyche for years.

Many Nigerians never lived in a Nigeria that boast of round-the-clock electricity. Many Nigerians do not know how it feels like to travel in Nigeria with a minimum road traffic discomfort. Many Nigerians do not know how it feels like to live in a house un-caged; without (what Nigerians call) “burglar-proof” windows, thanks to the insecurity.

Young Nigerians do not know how it feels like to attend a university without university strikes. The examples are endless. But the point I seek to make is that too many a Nigerian have never lived the life of their dream; a life in absolute tranquility. Most Nigerians harbor a life that is spent in the constant fear of what it is like to live in an atmosphere of terror, not knowing who or what will strike next.

Quintessentially, young Nigerians have never felt the presence of a government; they usually owe their significant and trivial successes to the individual and collective sacrifices of family and friends.

But let us look at the other side of the coin: in a country like America and other serious nations, an individual starts to benefit from the government right from infancy: you’re given a free and compulsory good quality education, and you are constantly reminded that with hard work and perseverance, a better future awaits.

I have seen a sick, bedridden American whose last words on earth were that he was proud to be American. I do not know any up-and-doing (perhaps the opposite of bedridden?) Nigerian who maintains that he is proud to be Nigerian!

Because they are grateful to their country, many Americans willfully keep US flags and other statist symbols in their homes so that these icons can constantly remind them of what they owe their country: gratitude.

I have never in my life seen a Nigerian flag in the private residence of any Nigerian. According to the grapevine, Nigerians do not feel they owe anything to their country and/or government, no wonder they exhibit a persistent disconnect between them and the symbols of their country, Nigeria.

Until the Nigerian people start to feel the presence of a government in the delicate phases of their personal lives, they will not only stop at ridicule, they’ll always cling to narrow parochial interests before sovereign national interests.

In brusqueness, Nigerian leaders are known to always cast disparaging remarks on Nigerians, whom they claim, do not have faith in them. Who will tell them that faith is not entirely a self-colored affair? Who will tell them that the citizenry of Nigeria like other citizenries the world over can only be devoted to that which is devoted to their personal causes?

Does this explanation give any tip-off on why it takes two to tango?

Mohammed Dahiru Aminu writes from Yola, Nigeria. He can be reached at [email protected]

Goldleaf wrote:I believe it was Kalu Idika Kalu who once stated that the growing cynicism of the nigerian populace if not addressed by govt will turn into self-hate which is in itself a significant destructive force.

Heliopolis wrote:To me it is completely unbelievable that a nation of 150 million of some of the most genetically gifted people on earth could not even muster a single medal in the year 2012. It's a crying shame.

TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:

Heliopolis wrote:To me it is completely unbelievable that a nation of 150 million of some of the most genetically gifted people on earth could not even muster a single medal in the year 2012. It's a crying shame.

Shut your mouth, you fool. Compared with the other N. African countries, who win medals consistently in LD races, how many medals has Egypt brought home in all her years of Olympic competition And this is a country that has been independent forever. It is unfortunate there are no medals for suicide bombing


Cheers

realtrouble wrote:

TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:

Heliopolis wrote:To me it is completely unbelievable that a nation of 150 million of some of the most genetically gifted people on earth could not even muster a single medal in the year 2012. It's a crying shame.

Shut your mouth, you fool. Compared with the other N. African countries, who win medals consistently in LD races, how many medals has Egypt brought home in all her years of Olympic competition And this is a country that has been independent forever. It is unfortunate there are no medals for suicide bombing


Cheers

Typical ignorance comment from Tonythetigerkiller

TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:

Heliopolis wrote:To me it is completely unbelievable that a nation of 150 million of some of the most genetically gifted people on earth could not even muster a single medal in the year 2012. It's a crying shame.

Shut your mouth, you fool. Compared with the other N. African countries, who win medals consistently in LD races, how many medals has Egypt brought home in all her years of Olympic competition And this is a country that has been independent forever. It is unfortunate there are no medals for suicide bombing


Cheers

realtrouble wrote:

Cristao II wrote:

Babafad wrote:

Cristao II wrote:I ask again what are we going to do to solve this mess. Continue pointing fingers and using us vs them. We are closer to them than you think.

By pointing fingers, he is in fact DOING something about it, unlike you who seems to be quite content with the status quo.

See this London based guy. Sorry big guy - I am in Nigeria and I do do things about it. I talk in church. I talk in fellowships. I talk about it in my company. I challenge those who say things like 'That is the way Nigerians are' & 'Nigeria is a useless country'. I pray about it. I educate people. What do you do except sit your asses in front of a computer and whinge whinge whinge about it!!

As I told him. Criticising is a useless form of doing stuff. If it is not followed by action - it is a waste of time.

Typical Nigerian solution " I pray about Nigeria problem" . Why not build business and employ people.

TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:Nigeria did not win her first olympic medal until 1988, I believe, and since then, we've only managed to win a total of 23 medals in 6 olympc games or so. You clowns who are moaning about our "dismal" performance at the 2012 games are being awfully unrealistic. Instead of bad-mouthing your country and athletes, why don't you engage your children in swimming, canoeing, tai-kwan-do and so on and so forth so that in the future, they might accomplish something that you have been incapable of accomplishing thus far; contribute positively to Nigeria's image and glory.

Having said that, Nigerians at large, in paticular the NOC, can certainly do a lot better


Cheers.

TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:Nigeria did not win her first olympic medal until 1988, I believe, and since then, we've only managed to win a total of 23 medals in 6 olympc games or so. You clowns who are moaning about our "dismal" performance at the 2012 games are being awfully unrealistic. Instead of bad-mouthing your country and athletes, why don't you engage your children in swimming, canoeing, tai-kwan-do and so on and so forth so that in the future, they might accomplish something that you have been incapable of accomplishing thus far; contribute positively to Nigeria's image and glory.

Having said that, Nigerians at large, in paticular the NOC, can certainly do a lot better


Cheers.

akamoke wrote:

TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:Nigeria did not win her first olympic medal until 1988, I believe, and since then, we've only managed to win a total of 23 medals in 6 olympc games or so. You clowns who are moaning about our "dismal" performance at the 2012 games are being awfully unrealistic. Instead of bad-mouthing your country and athletes, why don't you engage your children in swimming, canoeing, tai-kwan-do and so on and so forth so that in the future, they might accomplish something that you have been incapable of accomplishing thus far; contribute positively to Nigeria's image and glory.

Having said that, Nigerians at large, in paticular the NOC, can certainly do a lot better


Cheers.

Nigeria's first medal was in 1964, then 72 then fast forward to 84, none in 88, then we have medals in 92 - 2008 inclusive and we all know what we did in 2012

Having said that, we don;t have an Olympic history that is as rich as people want to make out

Cristao II wrote:

Babafad wrote:

Damunk wrote:

Babafad wrote:

Cristao II wrote:I ask again what are we going to do to solve this mess. Continue pointing fingers and using us vs them. We are closer to them than you think.

By pointing fingers, he is in fact DOING something about it, unlike you who seems to be quite content with the status quo.

We have been pointing fingers and whinging for thirty years...or even more.
So are we now expecting a different outcome?

War of attrition in full effect. Those who have ears, let them hear.

Doing something is better than doing nothing. For someone to come out with stuff like - "winning doesn't matter, it's the taking part that counts" (Sir Cristao), that's where our problem really lies.

Comments like that remind me of what my mum says, these day. When ever I call home (Naija) and ask how are things and do you have electricity today. She tends to answer, "whatever the situation is, we are used to it"........and so their "suffering" continues.

Can you imagine the noise and finger pointing that would take place if a country like the UK were to return home from a major event empty handed???

Winning doesnt matter if you have a plan to eventually reach the top was where I was going. But then I am getting used to the committee of whiners on CE who think we have magical Nigerians somewhere that will arise and make everything well with a snip of the fingers. WE ARE ALL CULPABLE FOR THIS!! The earlier we get it the better.

TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:Nigeria did not win her first olympic medal until 1988, I believe, and since then, we've only managed to win a total of 23 medals in 6 olympc games or so. You clowns who are moaning about our "dismal" performance at the 2012 games are being awfully unrealistic. Instead of bad-mouthing your country and athletes, why don't you engage your children in swimming, canoeing, tai-kwan-do and so on and so forth so that in the future, they might accomplish something that you have been incapable of accomplishing thus far; contribute positively to Nigeria's image and glory.

Having said that, Nigerians at large, in paticular the NOC, can certainly do a lot better


Cheers.

Prince wrote:Thats why our kids are doing well representing other countries and winning medals for them and some even switching nationality because their country of birth neglects and abandon them instead of people to continue to call out those that cause it they turn on those criticizing them

TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:Nigeria is not the only country in the world that's under developed, facilities wise but athletes from the other counties remain loyal.